While Marko is an exclusive Warwick player, Tuomas loves Korg keyboards since his teenage times and Yukka's kit is Tama's... Ah, plusTroy and his Uillean pipes! 😉😉😉 Man, that should be a mantra...😂 👋🇮🇹🖖
No need to go around the question, technically Floor is the best singer. From opera to rock to metal to growls, Floor does it. Which other singer can do the same? I seriously don't understand the discussion, unless someone is deaf.
I know most people compare them but I never will. Tarja’s the reason I fell in love with nightwish and symphonic metal, Floor’s the reason I still love them. They’re both phenomenal singers and I can’t choose!
Same here - I loved their music in the Tarja era and while Anette is a great singer, she never really felt like a good fit for the band (especially live, trying to find a way to fit the older material, seeing them live right after Dark Passion Play came out was awkward when they played older songs). As someone who had also loved After Forever, when Floor was announced as the new vocalist for Nightwish, it was like someone was trying to appeal to one of my dream band mash-ups.
And you don't have to choose. They are both indeed phenomenal singers and we all have preferences. The thing is, Tarja is what made Nightwish because of her voice , and Floor carries on that legacy because of her voice. And we can enjoy both. The ones that bitch about who is the better singer ruin these kind of fanbases, and I think it's pathetic all together. Why would you go out of your way to comment on a certain video to tell "oh but so and so is so much better" etc.. Too have that opinion is okay. Too state that and be a little bitch about it is another thing. So I completely agree with you !
People get so b!tchy about comparing the two singers, unfortunately... But they seem to forget that this is your channel, and you're ALLOWED TO HAVE A FAVOURITE! I loved Tarja, she was awesome, and she definitely has a place in my playlist and heart, as she was my introduction to NW so many years ago... but the fact is I love Floor more. She's a lot more versatile, and you can see that the band is happier, too. People need to get over it. It's been 15 years since Tarja left Nightwish. By saying you like one singer more is NOT saying you don't like the other one too. So stop being so aggressive to these RUclipsrs by posting mean comments and being petty by pressing the dislike button. Anyway, rant over.... thanks for the react guys :) I look forward to more NW songs from you!!!
A bit like that yeah. Tarja is just singing the lyrics in my opinion, where Floor uses the lyrics to tell the audience a story. She is a real storyteller. She understands and feels the meaning of the lyrics and knows how to bring it to the listeners.
@@raikbarczynski6582 love me some Sabaton, but Floor was performing at that level (both with and without Nightwish) many years before she even met Hans.
Floor...all day every day. And it's not just the voice, it's the chemistry with the rest of the band, the attitude, stage presence and extra little touches that she brings to every performance.
Yep this. Tarja is legitimately an amazing, peerless singer. But Floor is not simply a goddess tier singer she is a vibrant performer who brings a flair to the stage and invokes a spirit into every song which provides even more life to these amazing compositions, and she clearly also has a great stage relationship with the other band members and the entire concert vibe is happy and fun. Which is not to say that Tarja didn't have fun and perform amazingly on stage but Floor simply brings another level to it.
"She's part of the band" - You absolutely hit the nail on the head. As unbelievably talented as Tarja was (is) and as much as she interacted with the band, I never got the feeling that she was part of the band. She always seemed to stand somewhat apart from them - not physically but in attitude. I am not putting Tarja down - I love her and her voice, but Floor is genuinely part of the band.
Agree. As much as I love the other singers for their own unique things about them. Floor has this stage presence that truly meshes with the band and really the audience too. I've not seen anything like it. In her version of I want my tears back in 2018 at wacken She really connects with he audience as well. Makes me as the viewer even feel like I'm there and also cared for. Pretty cool energy she has.
Nice reaction! And nice t-shirts too. :D The Tarja performance you picked is from End of an era, very good show indeed, but also the last one with Tarja performing with Nightwish, she was fired right after this. So the differences between them had already grown to their climax at that point. Its clear to see that she is indeed a bit more distant from the guys there. That whole show is quite interesting to watch with the historie of Nightwish in mind. Whenever you get to Poet and the pendulum that whole situation will be interesting to research. Personally I love that we have multiple and quite different versions of these same songs to enjoy now. To me both are equally enjoyable. :)
Marko have said that he was so happy when Floor joined, that ment that he'd never have to hold back when singing anymore. When this was recorded Floor had been the bands replacement singer for ten months after Anette was fired in the middle of the world tour. Floor did her first show with Nightwish on Oct.1st 2012, this was recorded Aug 3rd 2013.
Possibly, when Marco said he was holding his voice, he was referring to singing with Anette. Marco did not hold his voice when he sang with Tarja. For example, watch The Phantom of the Opera. I've never seen Marco use the power of his voice as much as in that performance.
@asdas saddasd Wow, I never read comments like that and I really disagree with them. Tarja's voice is quite audible on The Phantom of the Opera, even more so than Marco's at times. Tarja may not need to use a microphone to sing in a theater. Usually lyrical singers don't use it.
@asdas saddasd The analysis really ends up being biased by personal taste, I agree with you. However, when I referred to a powerful voice, I meant about the volume of the sound. Marco and Tarja's styles are completely different, but the two have very good vocal power. Because of that, I believe that when Marco said he contained his own voice, I think he meant Anette. I like Anette's voice, but she doesn't have the same vocal power (volume) as Tarja and Floor.
@@pianosonata5029 She got pregnant during their world tour, and wanted to cancel the final part of it. There was other things too, but that was the final straw.
I love Floors voice it just has so much emotion in it whenever she sings and then her blending with Marco is just perfect, nothing to take away from Tarja she is a great singer and performer but if I have a choice, which I have, I prefer to listen to Floor's versions. Thanks for the great reaction!
This is in no way meant to disrespect Tarja in any way. She was the original and is a great vocalist in her own right but in my opinion it’s simply not fair to compare anyone to Floor because she’s incomparable! Truly like bringing a knife to a gunfight, especially live where she reigns supreme as the undisputed queen of metal, again in my opinion. I’ve watched this entire Wacken 2013 show several times and she is literally flawless on every single song as is the entire band!
@@mralireza931 Respectfully disagree. Tuomas founded the band. He wrote the songs . He composed the songs. He is the leader of the band. It is Nightwish and NOT. .. Tarja and Nightwish.
Tarja has a great voice but I prefer Floor’s voice cause of her versatility & chemistry with the rest of the band. A perfect fit, a match made in heaven if you ask me!!
Tarja was one dimensional with only the operatic version in every song. Floor can bring so much more changes to the songs with her versatility to growling to operatic...Floor should have been from the beginning the 2nd singer for Nightwish they would have been huge already from 2008 and not 2013...
@@thamor4746 dude, what planet are you from? Nightwish hasn't produced a proper album since Floor, all great albums are from Tarja's era plus one with annete. And one thing Tarja had that floor doesn't: the ability the reach inside you and rip your heart out with her voice. No amount technical mastery can replace that.
@@mralireza931 we all have our own preferences. Me and many others feel that Floor does reach into our souls. She sings with all the emotion she has inside her. I always get goosebumps/Floorgasms when she sings. You have this feeling with Tarja and that is great 👍🏻 No need to “attack” other fans with a different opinion. And I do love the last NW album actually.
@@mralireza931 Your opinion is really confusing, you are saying only Tarja albums were great with Anette's albums and at same time you ignoring me saying that Floor should have been their 2nd singer and those 2 Anette albums would have been much better received. I am from Finland and been listening to them from 1997 Angels Fall First, Tarja was great for her time/era, but Floor for myself after these long years is better. Because she can sing with so much variety. You are saying Endless Forms Most Beautiful (2015) isn't a good album that is your opinion. I feel it's as good as the old ones, you live with the progress of the band. So what planet are you from?
The quality of the Wacken 2013 show is just so good. But beyond that and beyond the actual vocals, there is a unique togetherness and magic in this Wacken show.
I can't count how many times i have heard the song and others by Floor, the songs performed by her never get bored, every time you notice something new, fresh, they are all multi-layered with different colors and brightness, Flor does not just sing, she plays a role, tells a story, Tarja is not bad, but monotonous and not artistic. But the most important thing in the songs is their author Tuomas, it is his composing talent that allows both Floor and Annette and Tarja to shine
In this song, Tarja and Marko have moments of sheer gorgeousness singing together but it isn't the continual melding the that you get with Floor and Marko. It takes one hell of a band not to be overpowered by the talent of each of these members.
I agree the shear joy the have is so captivating. You two MUST look at their Buenos Aires performance in 2015 of I want my tears back, I have never seen such interaction, pleasure and joy on stage....🤘🤘
Love your reaction guys. You had 39 dislikes (Ghost Love Score ) From who? Well. .the Tarja trolls. Don't let them lure you in by playing Tarja videos. If you love Floor and Nightwish, that is the way to go. IMO. Peace out
@@rburnsiv Personally, I don't like her voice (Tarja) but I don't hate her. If a reactor does Ghost Love Score by Floor and he/she gets dislikes... Floor haters. How can anyone hate Floor unless they are Tarja trolls...IMO.
Both have beautiful strong voices. I like both versions. But in my opinion, there are two differencies. First i think, that beyond their well-trainded voices, Floor can awake much more better different emotions in all songs and in consequence at the listeners. That brings me to the second obvious difference. The music of Nightwish lightens the voice of Tarja, but Floor brings the music to shine!
Tarja was the opera singer that sang with Nightwish. But Floor is part of the band that has an operatic voice. Marko just kills it. I think his singing is underrated. Marko and Floor singing together is what makes this song.
hello, christian from France, I love your completely crazy reactions, I discovered so many bands thanks to you and I enjoy Lovabites and Band Maid, thank you keep it up....
As much as I love Tarja, and I do love her truly, it's undeniable that Floor is on a very different level. She's technically flawless and so versatile. And I agree with you when yoy say that Floor seduces you with her voice, she's beyond!
There's no denying Tarja had /has a great voice but she was one dimensional. Floor can do it all and do it beautifully. She is the perfect fit for Nightwish.
"do it all" - as in being the master of nothing, kinda like an heptathlon although competing in many branches, will still never stand a chance to someone who specializes in one particular brand. And it is not the heptathlon who make the strongest impacts, it is the Messi type, Maradona, M. Jordan, M.Phelps, Isinbayeva etc. Those are the ones who become icons, not the generalists.
@@FemaleMetalLover ironicaly that cliche "theory" against generalizing vs specializing, makes most generalizing arguments itself so basically it destoys itself in argument xD
@@FemaleMetalLover actually problems here are assumptions... first one is, because Floor doesn't sing certain song in operatic style she is not specialized at it... which is wrong, her first specialty is operatic singing, it is her first profession after all... for example here is her take on Puccini aria, just check it out: ruclips.net/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/видео.html
@@FemaleMetalLover Why is it that you're so upset if someone says that in his opinion a singer is one dimensional, you might not feel that way but he I guess does and it's his opinion. Also your analogy is flawed, a Messi or Maradonna or Jordan have multiple facets although there are area's they excel in, if we would go by your logic a specialization will be, they're just only there to do penalty kicks, give a pass or only do 3 pointers for basket ball or for american football a field goal kicker. A Maradonna or Messi excel at creativity, passing, scoring and dribbling technique for example. Anywho enjoy your day/evening.
I'm OG Nightwish fan, since Oceanborn, so Tarja was our original goddess :) It was so sad to see them let her go, but for understandable reasons. Nightwish magic looked ruined forever with Anette, cause she couldn't do any of that Tarja stuff from first 5 albums. Thankfully Tuomas realized this experiment isn't working (although she was good for those two studio albums but terrible for live). Bringing Floor to the band was brilliant move, she really resurrected Nightwish and gave them another dimension, and she can sing everything from any Nightwish era. I'd agree she is better and more diverse vocalist than Tarja, but I loved Tarja's operatic voice with Nightwish music so much, made them totally unique. But I cannot be happier we have Floor now, I cannot imagine anyone else doing what she does, I hope she never leaves
I've only recently gone down the Nighwish rabbit hole, and it was this Wacken Ghost Love Score that took me there. I did go back and watch some stuff with Tarja and felt the same. She seems like something separate from the band as a whole. And separate from the crowd as well. It's hard to explain, but when you've played in bands and seen hundreds more it really stands out. Floor simply commands the stage and acts like some kind of super conductor between the band and audience, and even with no sound you can watch this happen. On top of that, I'm not even sure she was an official member at this show, as she was standing in for Annette who quit halfway in the tour. So Floor is, over the course of this performance, winning over the audience. Is really an amazing thing to watch, and not something that happens very often at all. Fantastic video guys, loved it.
I think it's the combination of her operatic tone and accent that makes it more difficult. Floor's annunciation is so clean. She has a neutral accent when singing making almost impossible to figure out whether she's European or American. It's that clarity that I think has given them more attention globally than Tarja was able. Their American fan base has exploded exponentially with her being able to sing without any obvious foreign accent. This was obvious even back in the 70's and 80's with the British Invasion. Iron Maiden is a good example, among others. Like it or not, that's how it's been and will probably continue.
On a scale of 10, Tarja's probably an 8. Floor however, is a 100. I only found NW a little over a year ago, but I am sure I would never have been a fan in the Tarja era. She's talented, no doubt, but her stage vibe is a tad creepy and as you said, I've never seen a video with her where she looks comfortable within the band. Maybe I'm prejudiced by the known history, but she looks like a loner up there. Floor however, looks like what you'd imagine if you played a track without vocals and said "who should be the lead vocalist?" Everything about her fits and I think makes NW complete.
Those of us who became fans in that Tarja years find it a little harder to really get into Floor. She’s talented sure but you can find a lot of female vocalists who can belt. Not a lot of pure operatic singers.
@@rburnsiv No, "those of us" do not necessarily share your opinion. I got hooked on Nightwish during the Tarja-era, stopped following them when she got dismissed and never really thought I'd be listening to post-Tarja NW. Floor proved me wrong. Judging from many of the posts here on YT, I sincerely doubt that my case is in any way unique - heck, this channel's owners listened to NW during the Tarja years and apparently have no difficulties "getting into" Floor. As for Floor's skills, are you actually suggesting that belting is all she can do? And Tarja is not a "pure operatic" singer, she's a lied singer - however, I get your point and it really just boils down to personal preference. As for myself, I consider Nightwish a very dynamic band that benefits from having a very dynamic singer.
Marco has said that one of the reasons he loves singing with Floor is that he doesent have to hold back he can give it all when he sings. he doesent have to hold back out of fear of overpowering their voices. with Floor he can give it 100%
That is exactly how I feel! I just found them by accident and I haven't gotten past this song. Tarja, Tarja Floor duet, Floor I love them all so it's I'm still loving them. Oh and MARCO is also why I love them!
It is hard to not love Tarja, but I am forever Floor... ever since After Forever... She has always blown me away... Tarja is lovely to hear, but for *ME* I prefer Floor.
🤘🤘❤🤘🤘😁✌🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I'm an unabashed Floorshipper so my bias is implicit. However I greatly respect Tarja and her place in Nightwish history. Also as a new sub Hello from Northern California!!!!! Stay safe and well!!!! 😉
You come to basically the exact same conclusion I came to with Nightwish. Tarja is a really good singer, but Floors versatility and her personality fits the actual music and the emotions it tries to transport so much better, that the result is far superior to any single individual can ever be.
Tarja has an amazing voice, but I like to listen to Floor for a number of reasons. First off, Floor is an amazing story teller, because you can feel the emotion she is putting into her songs. Secondly, she gives credit to her band mates, as well as the crowd, so she comes across as a humble super star. Third, I'm just a sucker for the whole Valkyrie Goddess look. haha. Thank you for reacting to Nightwish.
I really do not like when people "compare" them. They are both amazing in what they do. Just enjoy them both and stop trying to pit them against each other!
We do apologize if that is what you got from our video. It was never our intention to pit them against each other. We have just never heard Floor's version of one of our favorite songs, so wanted to get an idea of how she made the song her own. This was in no way intended to pick a favorite or compare capabilities. We are simply discovering a new vocalist to us and appreciate both.
@@SongsandThongs i didn't mean to sound angry towards you two. But originally you titled this reaction video "Comparing" the two versions. After all these years the "fans" need to calm down and carry on. Tarja has an amazing voice and a wonderful solo career and Floor has an amazing voice and is the voice of Nightwish now. It is perfectly fine to love them both :)
@@pasatore Did you even watch the whole video? I’m betting you didn’t. They really like Tarja, as well as Floor, and they certainly didn’t pit them against each other. If you think every video with both singers in it is “nonsense”, then don’t watch them, ffs.
Floor is screaming and her voice sounds thin at higher notes while Tarja maintains her warm/lusciousness/haunting even at higher notes. Tarja introduced me to symphonic metal.
well, I personally don't like to compare, cause everyone is different, both singers are unique in their art, their craft, I love both singers equally, yes both versions sound different that's why I like both songs
I only discovered Nightwish a few months ago and started by listening to Wacken 2013 and later concerts. While all three singers have versions of songs I like best since I started listening to Nightwish with Floor as a singer, for most songs I like her versions best. However, I am not sure these comparisons serve any purpose. Everyone should pick the version they like best and saying that one is better than the other is pointless. Taste is personal and we all have different preferences. There is also the factor that people develop and grow as well as the different times in which the songs were created/performed. The expectations and tastes of the public/fans were different. Most importantly I feel that comparing different performers is pointless in general and creates an "us versus them" vibe where people start defending their preference/taste because they may feel attacked because all people want to belong to the "winning/best team.
When Traja is singing with Marko it is a fanastic backing fill. When Floor sings with Marko, she gives him a mountain to stand on ( I have said the later before, but this vid really brings it into focus).
My take only... I agree with the observation of Tarja being a good deal more centered in an operatic voice with somewhat minor variations to fit particular songs... Floor is a world class singer, period. I watched her give so many spine-tingling performances in different genres and even in different languages. She is obviously curious and intelligent about the possibilities of her voice and totally loves exploring the boundaries of what she can do. She appears to completely love what she is doing and has an incredible synergy with the other amazing musicians of Nightwish. Together, they are magical. Yes kids, magic does exist!
Ive loved nightwish for well over a decade... but i think i finally figured something out. Back with Tarja and Anette i loved the studio versions of the music the concerts weren't bad but they were nothing compared to the current Floor era. Floor just sounds better live everything feels more cohesive it just flows.. obviously the band as learned a lot over the years as far as live performances and they have better crews and editors so its not just because Floor is there but i do think she makes a big difference. FYI i will always love the original albums. ^_^
I love Tarja, but all opera gets old to me after a while. I love how Floor can be operatic, but still bring more of the metal aggression sometimes. Many times when Tarja is singing opera with that angelic voice, Floor is belting out with max power. It gives the music a heavier edge in my opinion. Tuomas is in the perfect situation for his writing abilities to take his musical creations in any direction possible. Peace out.
Agreed. There is definitely a time when the operatic is most suitable, and there are many times when it is NOT. All the songs seem to blend into the same song when you hear the same vocal style all the time.
To be honest, it took me a while to check out this clip due to the "comparison" between the singers. Such clips tend to trigger a flame war in the comments section, something I'm getting rather sick of. I do believe that most fans respect each other's opinions, but there's a small minority that come off as raging fanatics. They're not doing the band nor the fan community any favours. I get that some prefer one singer over another; I've stopped following some bands when they switched lead singer, but I sure as hell never got the idea of going online to thrash people who do not share my personal opinion. It's schoolyard behaviour and I hope that some people finally grow up. That being said, you were respectful towards both singers and it didn't turn out to be some kind of contest. You've quickly become one of my favourite reactor channels - I really like your enthusiasm and obvious love for music. Many thanks!
I love it when reactors do old and new versions together; how else are you supposed to know and appreciate the differences? Unfortunately it means you have to put up with a lot of the ‘versus’ crap and have still others telling you to ‘stop comparing!’, but whatever. This was fun; thanks!
That's actually a really good catch you made. She feels kind of separated from the band here because this is their last tour with her and (i miiiight have made this up in my head) iirc it was after this specific show that they have her the letter (which you can actually read for yourself as it was an open letter) that informed her that they had decided to part ways, partly because she had started isolating herself from the other members during tours, not attending rehearsals, etc.
Oh dear, it seems you have opened a can of worms and given the pot a good stir, but no matter. Great reaction, the lady rather concisely summed up what I was thinking.
In case you didn't know, Emppu is playing his signature ESP EV1... Shoutout to everyone who gets the referance :)
Tank!! 🤘
@@mikelitten7489 Yep!! But Emppu does do some palm muting though.
@@572Btriode ...⏸️👑...😉👍
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While Marko is an exclusive Warwick player, Tuomas loves Korg keyboards since his teenage times and Yukka's kit is Tama's...
Ah, plusTroy and his Uillean pipes!
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Man, that should be a mantra...😂
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@@flaviovergottini652 :-)
The best way to go around of question "who's best singer" is to state "Marko"
ignores songs before marko idiot
@@iamnutty8471 I guess Sami Vänskä would answer the same way.. Greetings from Finland - and for my end I won't comment anymore...
My vote goes to Troy. ;-))
No need to go around the question, technically Floor is the best singer. From opera to rock to metal to growls, Floor does it. Which other singer can do the same? I seriously don't understand the discussion, unless someone is deaf.
Personally, I prefer Nightwish songs without Marco (Angels fall first - Wishmaster era)
I know most people compare them but I never will. Tarja’s the reason I fell in love with nightwish and symphonic metal, Floor’s the reason I still love them. They’re both phenomenal singers and I can’t choose!
Same here - I loved their music in the Tarja era and while Anette is a great singer, she never really felt like a good fit for the band (especially live, trying to find a way to fit the older material, seeing them live right after Dark Passion Play came out was awkward when they played older songs). As someone who had also loved After Forever, when Floor was announced as the new vocalist for Nightwish, it was like someone was trying to appeal to one of my dream band mash-ups.
Why? I will compare them for you... Very hard to beat a Great Opera Vocalist :) Very Tight Band but Floor put them on top Globally ;)
i love floor, she is amazing and perfect for nightwish, but the constant comparing grates me.
And you don't have to choose. They are both indeed phenomenal singers and we all have preferences. The thing is, Tarja is what made Nightwish because of her voice , and Floor carries on that legacy because of her voice. And we can enjoy both. The ones that bitch about who is the better singer ruin these kind of fanbases, and I think it's pathetic all together. Why would you go out of your way to comment on a certain video to tell "oh but so and so is so much better" etc.. Too have that opinion is okay. Too state that and be a little bitch about it is another thing. So I completely agree with you !
You can't choose? I can and the nightwish army also
Floor is a natural part of a 6 member band, that all works together on creating the best performance of the song.
I am so Happy to see you guys rediscover Nightwish!! Keep it up!
People get so b!tchy about comparing the two singers, unfortunately... But they seem to forget that this is your channel, and you're ALLOWED TO HAVE A FAVOURITE! I loved Tarja, she was awesome, and she definitely has a place in my playlist and heart, as she was my introduction to NW so many years ago... but the fact is I love Floor more. She's a lot more versatile, and you can see that the band is happier, too. People need to get over it. It's been 15 years since Tarja left Nightwish. By saying you like one singer more is NOT saying you don't like the other one too. So stop being so aggressive to these RUclipsrs by posting mean comments and being petty by pressing the dislike button. Anyway, rant over.... thanks for the react guys :) I look forward to more NW songs from you!!!
If we could reach through this screen of ours and give you a damn big hug right now... We would!
Thank you so much for this epic comment! You rule!
people seem to also forget that tarja and floor are good friends ruclips.net/video/rdF1AdCOxBA/видео.html&t=581
@@biglew1161 yeah they are, and they even did some songs together. like tarja giving the scepter to floor
And the winner is: Tuomas who wrote such an amazing song!
"Floor is my angel"
Tarja always felt like she was floating on top of the music. While Floor sounds like she is part of the music.
A bit like that yeah. Tarja is just singing the lyrics in my opinion, where Floor uses the lyrics to tell the audience a story. She is a real storyteller. She understands and feels the meaning of the lyrics and knows how to bring it to the listeners.
yes i agree.
@@arendhoek3151 bet she learned that from her husbands band :)
Feels like a sneaky "Walking in the air" reference
@@raikbarczynski6582 love me some Sabaton, but Floor was performing at that level (both with and without Nightwish) many years before she even met Hans.
Floor...all day every day.
And it's not just the voice, it's the chemistry with the rest of the band, the attitude, stage presence and extra little touches that she brings to every performance.
Totally agree❣️
Yep this. Tarja is legitimately an amazing, peerless singer. But Floor is not simply a goddess tier singer she is a vibrant performer who brings a flair to the stage and invokes a spirit into every song which provides even more life to these amazing compositions, and she clearly also has a great stage relationship with the other band members and the entire concert vibe is happy and fun. Which is not to say that Tarja didn't have fun and perform amazingly on stage but Floor simply brings another level to it.
meh for the comparing. especially when this was the last song tarja performed with the band.
Tarja was a great Lead (with a backup band). Floor is a great Band Member (as one integrated unit).
Nightwish with Floor simply takes you on a well-being tour
"She's part of the band" - You absolutely hit the nail on the head. As unbelievably talented as Tarja was (is) and as much as she interacted with the band, I never got the feeling that she was part of the band. She always seemed to stand somewhat apart from them - not physically but in attitude. I am not putting Tarja down - I love her and her voice, but Floor is genuinely part of the band.
Tuomas is on video record when asked how Floor was fitting in, he said: "She's home."
Agree. As much as I love the other singers for their own unique things about them. Floor has this stage presence that truly meshes with the band and really the audience too. I've not seen anything like it. In her version of I want my tears back in 2018 at wacken She really connects with he audience as well. Makes me as the viewer even feel like I'm there and also cared for. Pretty cool energy she has.
But Tuomas himself said that it was intentional. It was agreed between them, to give her a more "mysterious vibe" on stage.
It was obvious from that imfamous letter.
Nice reaction! And nice t-shirts too. :D
The Tarja performance you picked is from End of an era, very good show indeed, but also the last one with Tarja performing with Nightwish, she was fired right after this. So the differences between them had already grown to their climax at that point. Its clear to see that she is indeed a bit more distant from the guys there. That whole show is quite interesting to watch with the historie of Nightwish in mind. Whenever you get to Poet and the pendulum that whole situation will be interesting to research.
Personally I love that we have multiple and quite different versions of these same songs to enjoy now. To me both are equally enjoyable. :)
Floor is untouchable. No other vocalist can even come close to her.
I think someone can but she has not entered the light till this time.
oh I dont know, Marco is a bloody good match, the two of them in duet. :D
@@themisspultone I didn't mean to disrespect Marco, hats off to him,they surely match sooo good
Tarja is pretty close
Im always down for a challenge ;)
Marko have said that he was so happy when Floor joined, that ment that he'd never have to hold back when singing anymore.
When this was recorded Floor had been the bands replacement singer for ten months after Anette was fired in the middle of the world tour. Floor did her first show with Nightwish on Oct.1st 2012, this was recorded Aug 3rd 2013.
Possibly, when Marco said he was holding his voice, he was referring to singing with Anette. Marco did not hold his voice when he sang with Tarja. For example, watch The Phantom of the Opera. I've never seen Marco use the power of his voice as much as in that performance.
@asdas saddasd Wow, I never read comments like that and I really disagree with them. Tarja's voice is quite audible on The Phantom of the Opera, even more so than Marco's at times. Tarja may not need to use a microphone to sing in a theater. Usually lyrical singers don't use it.
@asdas saddasd The analysis really ends up being biased by personal taste, I agree with you. However, when I referred to a powerful voice, I meant about the volume of the sound. Marco and Tarja's styles are completely different, but the two have very good vocal power. Because of that, I believe that when Marco said he contained his own voice, I think he meant Anette. I like Anette's voice, but she doesn't have the same vocal power (volume) as Tarja and Floor.
Why was Anette fired? I thought that she had left on her own.
@@pianosonata5029 She got pregnant during their world tour, and wanted to cancel the final part of it. There was other things too, but that was the final straw.
I love Floors voice it just has so much emotion in it whenever she sings and then her blending with Marco is just perfect, nothing to take away from Tarja she is a great singer and performer but if I have a choice, which I have, I prefer to listen to Floor's versions. Thanks for the great reaction!
Thomas already said if floor leaves there's no Nightwish because she is irreplaceable. There's your answer on who's the best 👌
This is in no way meant to disrespect Tarja in any way. She was the original and is a great vocalist in her own right but in my opinion it’s simply not fair to compare anyone to Floor because she’s incomparable! Truly like bringing a knife to a gunfight, especially live where she reigns supreme as the undisputed queen of metal, again in my opinion. I’ve watched this entire Wacken 2013 show several times and she is literally flawless on every single song as is the entire band!
Goddess of Metal, Floor approved it in a interview.
Just wanted to let you know for some of us the exact opposite is true. The true nightwish sound is with Tarja.
@@mralireza931 Respectfully disagree. Tuomas founded the band. He wrote the songs .
He composed the songs.
He is the leader of the band.
It is Nightwish and NOT. .. Tarja and Nightwish.
@@eddiecreutzburg7375 Completely agree. Tuomas is the heart of Nightwish.
@@mralireza931 tarja have nothing with sound of nw she is just first in genre an nothin mire slightly overrated
Tarja has a great voice but I prefer Floor’s voice cause of her versatility & chemistry with the rest of the band. A perfect fit, a match made in heaven if you ask me!!
Tarja was one dimensional with only the operatic version in every song. Floor can bring so much more changes to the songs with her versatility to growling to operatic...Floor should have been from the beginning the 2nd singer for Nightwish they would have been huge already from 2008 and not 2013...
@@thamor4746 dude, what planet are you from? Nightwish hasn't produced a proper album since Floor, all great albums are from Tarja's era plus one with annete. And one thing Tarja had that floor doesn't: the ability the reach inside you and rip your heart out with her voice. No amount technical mastery can replace that.
@@mralireza931 we all have our own preferences. Me and many others feel that Floor does reach into our souls. She sings with all the emotion she has inside her. I always get goosebumps/Floorgasms when she sings.
You have this feeling with Tarja and that is great 👍🏻 No need to “attack” other fans with a different opinion. And I do love the last NW album actually.
@@mralireza931 Your opinion is really confusing, you are saying only Tarja albums were great with Anette's albums and at same time you ignoring me saying that Floor should have been their 2nd singer and those 2 Anette albums would have been much better received. I am from Finland and been listening to them from 1997 Angels Fall First, Tarja was great for her time/era, but Floor for myself after these long years is better. Because she can sing with so much variety. You are saying Endless Forms Most Beautiful (2015) isn't a good album that is your opinion. I feel it's as good as the old ones, you live with the progress of the band. So what planet are you from?
@@thamor4746 👍👍🤟🤟
Floorgasm! So many I cant count them... Heck, such perfection, power... fantastic!
Who is better , Tarja or Floor? Who cares , they are booth Fantastic!
Tarja & Marko & Floor. Kiitos.
The quality of the Wacken 2013 show is just so good. But beyond that and beyond the actual vocals, there is a unique togetherness and magic in this Wacken show.
iIt was the version with Tarja that made me love this band so much BUT the version with Floor singing is what i prefer.
I can't count how many times i have heard the song and others by Floor, the songs performed by her never get bored, every time you notice something new, fresh, they are all multi-layered with different colors and brightness, Flor does not just sing, she plays a role, tells a story, Tarja is not bad, but monotonous and not artistic. But the most important thing in the songs is their author Tuomas, it is his composing talent that allows both Floor and Annette and Tarja to shine
In this song, Tarja and Marko have moments of sheer gorgeousness singing together but it isn't the continual melding the that you get with Floor and Marko. It takes one hell of a band not to be overpowered by the talent of each of these members.
100 points guys. With Tarja they where good, but with Floor fabulous and brilliant
I have every album with Tarja and none after she left. So we don’t all agree.
@@rburnsiv good for you. Isn’t that life that we have different opinions? ;)
I agree the shear joy the have is so captivating. You two MUST look at their Buenos Aires performance in 2015 of I want my tears back, I have never seen such interaction, pleasure and joy on stage....🤘🤘
It jumped to 2K 👍🏻
You’re welcome! 😁
Thanks for these video’s!
I know which version I like more... but then again, I'm Dutch.
I'm Swedish and she lives in Sweden now, sorry :-)
@@ytbabbler I am from Denmark 🇩🇰 - neighbors 😁
I'm Finnish but if this is the question then I think I'm also Dutch
So.. anette it is :D
🤔 Don't care really i like Floor's version more. OH wait a minute i just remembered i'm Dutch 😱
No doubt: Miss Floor Jansen Queen of Metal 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
This would be the song that got me into Nightwish back in 2004.
floor > tarja. greetings from finland
Love your reaction guys. You had 39 dislikes (Ghost Love Score ) From who? Well. .the Tarja trolls. Don't let them lure you in by playing Tarja videos.
If you love Floor and Nightwish, that is the way to go. IMO.
Peace out
Wtf... why should they not play Tarja's videos.
I Love Floor more than any other singer, and I still like Tarja too.
Seems to me there are more Tarja haters on here than Floor
@@rburnsiv Personally, I don't like her voice (Tarja) but I don't hate her. If a reactor does Ghost Love Score by Floor and he/she gets dislikes... Floor haters.
How can anyone hate Floor unless they are Tarja trolls...IMO.
Floor everytime
15:15 "This chick was meant to be in Nightwish" ....fully agree !
Both have beautiful strong voices. I like both versions. But in my opinion, there are two differencies. First i think, that beyond their well-trainded voices, Floor can awake much more better different emotions in all songs and in consequence at the listeners. That brings me to the second obvious difference. The music of Nightwish lightens the voice of Tarja, but Floor brings the music to shine!
Devil & the Deep Dark Ocean and/or Dead Boys Poem Live from Buenos Aires are two oldies Floor crushed - got to check out
Marko wins, because he sings in both versions.
Ah floor is just amazing she's a goddess!! She is what they were missing all along
Yes, we ALL want to be that mic stand...
Great work guys, keep it up!
Tarja was the opera singer that sang with Nightwish. But Floor is part of the band that has an operatic voice. Marko just kills it. I think his singing is underrated. Marko and Floor singing together is what makes this song.
Hahaha jullie zijn zo leuk 😘 and you are right, tarja was a singer, floor is part of the band
Floor is just something elite level the best
hello, christian from France, I love your completely crazy reactions, I discovered so many bands thanks to you and I enjoy Lovabites and Band Maid, thank you keep it up....
The band is happy..they respect eachother..they respect the fans. They all give 100%!! Floor is awesome, our Dutch queen🤘❤️
I wish I could add a like to this video every time I come back to listen to it.
As much as I love Tarja, and I do love her truly, it's undeniable that Floor is on a very different level. She's technically flawless and so versatile. And I agree with you when yoy say that Floor seduces you with her voice, she's beyond!
And it's FLOOR for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no denying Tarja had /has a great voice but she was one dimensional. Floor can do it all and do it beautifully. She is the perfect fit for Nightwish.
"do it all" - as in being the master of nothing, kinda like an heptathlon although competing in many branches, will still never stand a chance to someone who specializes in one particular brand. And it is not the heptathlon who make the strongest impacts, it is the Messi type, Maradona, M. Jordan, M.Phelps, Isinbayeva etc. Those are the ones who become icons, not the generalists.
@@FemaleMetalLover ironicaly that cliche "theory" against generalizing vs specializing, makes most generalizing arguments itself so basically it destoys itself in argument xD
@@FemaleMetalLover actually problems here are assumptions... first one is, because Floor doesn't sing certain song in operatic style she is not specialized at it... which is wrong, her first specialty is operatic singing, it is her first profession after all... for example here is her take on Puccini aria, just check it out: ruclips.net/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/видео.html
@@gothic6662 Opera is not Floors first profession, or specialty. Floors version of that song is good, but Tarja’s is on another level.
@@FemaleMetalLover Why is it that you're so upset if someone says that in his opinion a singer is one dimensional, you might not feel that way but he I guess does and it's his opinion. Also your analogy is flawed, a Messi or Maradonna or Jordan have multiple facets although there are area's they excel in, if we would go by your logic a specialization will be, they're just only there to do penalty kicks, give a pass or only do 3 pointers for basket ball or for american football a field goal kicker. A Maradonna or Messi excel at creativity, passing, scoring and dribbling technique for example.
Anywho enjoy your day/evening.
I'm OG Nightwish fan, since Oceanborn, so Tarja was our original goddess :) It was so sad to see them let her go, but for understandable reasons. Nightwish magic looked ruined forever with Anette, cause she couldn't do any of that Tarja stuff from first 5 albums. Thankfully Tuomas realized this experiment isn't working (although she was good for those two studio albums but terrible for live). Bringing Floor to the band was brilliant move, she really resurrected Nightwish and gave them another dimension, and she can sing everything from any Nightwish era. I'd agree she is better and more diverse vocalist than Tarja, but I loved Tarja's operatic voice with Nightwish music so much, made them totally unique. But I cannot be happier we have Floor now, I cannot imagine anyone else doing what she does, I hope she never leaves
I've only recently gone down the Nighwish rabbit hole, and it was this Wacken Ghost Love Score that took me there. I did go back and watch some stuff with Tarja and felt the same. She seems like something separate from the band as a whole. And separate from the crowd as well. It's hard to explain, but when you've played in bands and seen hundreds more it really stands out. Floor simply commands the stage and acts like some kind of super conductor between the band and audience, and even with no sound you can watch this happen.
On top of that, I'm not even sure she was an official member at this show, as she was standing in for Annette who quit halfway in the tour. So Floor is, over the course of this performance, winning over the audience. Is really an amazing thing to watch, and not something that happens very often at all.
Fantastic video guys, loved it.
No doubt Floor gives me goosebumps, with Tarja I have a problem hearing the text.
exacly what i experienced.
I think it's the combination of her operatic tone and accent that makes it more difficult. Floor's annunciation is so clean. She has a neutral accent when singing making almost impossible to figure out whether she's European or American. It's that clarity that I think has given them more attention globally than Tarja was able. Their American fan base has exploded exponentially with her being able to sing without any obvious foreign accent. This was obvious even back in the 70's and 80's with the British Invasion. Iron Maiden is a good example, among others. Like it or not, that's how it's been and will probably continue.
floor is just on another level
Floor all the way!! Everytime Floor sings, goosebumps all the time!!! 🥰
Floorrrrr❤
FLoor incredible not normal . Marco amazing voice brilliant with Floor. Amazing
Floor is Number One Female voice of this world
She's good but IMO Britney Slayes is much better. She can sing opera, hit high, extremely high and low notes and she never had any formal training.
When I see Floor it's like I'm crushing on her!? I'm a Floor Girl🖤🖤🖤
Slaying the Dreamer/Wishmaster from that same show!! (Tarja as vocals)
I agree slaying the dreamer is my favorite song from the Tarja era
On a scale of 10, Tarja's probably an 8. Floor however, is a 100. I only found NW a little over a year ago, but I am sure I would never have been a fan in the Tarja era. She's talented, no doubt, but her stage vibe is a tad creepy and as you said, I've never seen a video with her where she looks comfortable within the band. Maybe I'm prejudiced by the known history, but she looks like a loner up there. Floor however, looks like what you'd imagine if you played a track without vocals and said "who should be the lead vocalist?" Everything about her fits and I think makes NW complete.
Those of us who became fans in that Tarja years find it a little harder to really get into Floor. She’s talented sure but you can find a lot of female vocalists who can belt. Not a lot of pure operatic singers.
@@rburnsiv No, "those of us" do not necessarily share your opinion. I got hooked on Nightwish during the Tarja-era, stopped following them when she got dismissed and never really thought I'd be listening to post-Tarja NW. Floor proved me wrong. Judging from many of the posts here on YT, I sincerely doubt that my case is in any way unique - heck, this channel's owners listened to NW during the Tarja years and apparently have no difficulties "getting into" Floor.
As for Floor's skills, are you actually suggesting that belting is all she can do? And Tarja is not a "pure operatic" singer, she's a lied singer - however, I get your point and it really just boils down to personal preference. As for myself, I consider Nightwish a very dynamic band that benefits from having a very dynamic singer.
Marco has said that one of the reasons he loves singing with Floor is that he doesent have to hold back he can give it all when he sings. he doesent have to hold back out of fear of overpowering their voices. with Floor he can give it 100%
Yes.
But Marco dosent have a larger vocal Register than Tarja. I still think Hes still in Love with Tarja and Just Hurt
That is exactly how I feel! I just found them by accident and I haven't gotten past this song. Tarja, Tarja Floor duet, Floor I love them all so it's I'm still loving them. Oh and MARCO is also why I love them!
It is hard to not love Tarja, but I am forever Floor... ever since After Forever... She has always blown me away... Tarja is lovely to hear, but for *ME* I prefer Floor.
Flooooooooooooor!!! No1 comes even close
Tarja is my queen, no one can replace her 🇫🇮
Welcome to the Nightwish army, even with at least 20 years delay!
Dont to say, it's NIGHTWISH......
Great reaction and coments.
🤘🤘❤🤘🤘😁✌🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm an unabashed Floorshipper so my bias is implicit. However I greatly respect Tarja and her place in Nightwish history.
Also as a new sub Hello from Northern California!!!!! Stay safe and well!!!! 😉
You come to basically the exact same conclusion I came to with Nightwish.
Tarja is a really good singer, but Floors versatility and her personality fits the actual music and the emotions it tries to transport so much better, that the result is far superior to any single individual can ever be.
Tarja has an amazing voice, but I like to listen to Floor for a number of reasons. First off, Floor is an amazing story teller, because you can feel the emotion she is putting into her songs. Secondly, she gives credit to her band mates, as well as the crowd, so she comes across as a humble super star. Third, I'm just a sucker for the whole Valkyrie Goddess look. haha. Thank you for reacting to Nightwish.
I really do not like when people "compare" them. They are both amazing in what they do. Just enjoy them both and stop trying to pit them against each other!
Amen to that Bridget. People need to stop this nonsense
We do apologize if that is what you got from our video. It was never our intention to pit them against each other. We have just never heard Floor's version of one of our favorite songs, so wanted to get an idea of how she made the song her own. This was in no way intended to pick a favorite or compare capabilities. We are simply discovering a new vocalist to us and appreciate both.
@@pasatore apologies for creating nonsense videos.
@@SongsandThongs i didn't mean to sound angry towards you two. But originally you titled this reaction video "Comparing" the two versions. After all these years the "fans" need to calm down and carry on. Tarja has an amazing voice and a wonderful solo career and Floor has an amazing voice and is the voice of Nightwish now. It is perfectly fine to love them both :)
@@pasatore Did you even watch the whole video? I’m betting you didn’t.
They really like Tarja, as well as Floor, and they certainly didn’t pit them against each other.
If you think every video with both singers in it is “nonsense”, then don’t watch them, ffs.
Floor is screaming and her voice sounds thin at higher notes while Tarja maintains her warm/lusciousness/haunting even at higher notes.
Tarja introduced me to symphonic metal.
well, I personally don't like to compare, cause everyone is different, both singers are unique in their art, their craft,
I love both singers equally, yes both versions sound different that's why I like both songs
I only discovered Nightwish a few months ago and started by listening to Wacken 2013 and later concerts. While all three singers have versions of songs I like best since I started listening to Nightwish with Floor as a singer, for most songs I like her versions best.
However, I am not sure these comparisons serve any purpose. Everyone should pick the version they like best and saying that one is better than the other is pointless. Taste is personal and we all have different preferences. There is also the factor that people develop and grow as well as the different times in which the songs were created/performed. The expectations and tastes of the public/fans were different. Most importantly I feel that comparing different performers is pointless in general and creates an "us versus them" vibe where people start defending their preference/taste because they may feel attacked because all people want to belong to the "winning/best team.
Yeah, you 2 are super! Dankie!
Thanks so so much 🤗🤗
Tarja....❤❤❤💋💋💋💋🤟🤟🤟👍👍👍
Tarja is amazing. But Floor...... She is unbelivable good.
You can do the same with the Song "ever dream"
Same Shows
@SteveNL Ghost Love Score is not "her song" either but she nailed it and made it her own :)
When Traja is singing with Marko it is a fanastic backing fill. When Floor sings with Marko, she gives him a mountain to stand on ( I have said the later before, but this vid really brings it into focus).
ps floor was with after forever and tarja was in nightwish same tour.
I think Floor and Marko's voices go together the best honestly, taking nothing away from Tarja.
It's so awesome when the cam is on the crowd and you see a bunch of crowdsurfers at the same time. Something magical about it.
My take only... I agree with the observation of Tarja being a good deal more centered in an operatic voice with somewhat minor variations to fit particular songs... Floor is a world class singer, period. I watched her give so many spine-tingling performances in different genres and even in different languages. She is obviously curious and intelligent about the possibilities of her voice and totally loves exploring the boundaries of what she can do. She appears to completely love what she is doing and has an incredible synergy with the other amazing musicians of Nightwish. Together, they are magical. Yes kids, magic does exist!
Floor has described herself as a vocal nerd.
floors bestie is simone simon from epica. they were flatmates way back.
it gets very complicated with all the links in europe.
Simone Simons is married to Oliver Palotai (Keyboards Kamelot)
@@henkraadmaar4072 i like Kamelot, didn't know, simone was married to the dude. did know she was pregnant at retrospect show.
timing makes sense. 🙂
You really need to watch Marko and Floor mesh on Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean in Buenos Aries. It's perfection.
Floor and Marko are the best ever👌
Ive loved nightwish for well over a decade... but i think i finally figured something out. Back with Tarja and Anette i loved the studio versions of the music the concerts weren't bad but they were nothing compared to the current Floor era. Floor just sounds better live everything feels more cohesive it just flows.. obviously the band as learned a lot over the years as far as live performances and they have better crews and editors so its not just because Floor is there but i do think she makes a big difference. FYI i will always love the original albums. ^_^
Wow 10 years that's crazy you're like the best fan too bad band has been around 25 plus years lol
@@andyreid2415 what your point.....
I love Tarja, but all opera gets old to me after a while. I love how Floor can be operatic, but still bring more of the metal aggression sometimes. Many times when Tarja is singing opera with that angelic voice, Floor is belting out with max power. It gives the music a heavier edge in my opinion. Tuomas is in the perfect situation for his writing abilities to take his musical creations in any direction possible. Peace out.
Agreed. There is definitely a time when the operatic is most suitable, and there are many times when it is NOT. All the songs seem to blend into the same song when you hear the same vocal style all the time.
@@danielletoscano4509 Well said my friend. 😊
Still can't beat the studio version on this one IMO and the video is awesome too
In terms of queens ... Tarja is the queen who owns you. Floor is the queen you want because you were a good boy and you know you deserve it. 🤘😎🤘
I have been waiting for your next Nightwish reaction. Keep them coming!!!
Just wondering if you heard 7 days to the wolves from Wembley 2015... now this is insane Marko/Floor singing!!
Tarja era genial. Pero claramente el feeling y talento de floor junto a Marko, es de otro planeta
To be honest, it took me a while to check out this clip due to the "comparison" between the singers. Such clips tend to trigger a flame war in the comments section, something I'm getting rather sick of. I do believe that most fans respect each other's opinions, but there's a small minority that come off as raging fanatics. They're not doing the band nor the fan community any favours. I get that some prefer one singer over another; I've stopped following some bands when they switched lead singer, but I sure as hell never got the idea of going online to thrash people who do not share my personal opinion. It's schoolyard behaviour and I hope that some people finally grow up.
That being said, you were respectful towards both singers and it didn't turn out to be some kind of contest. You've quickly become one of my favourite reactor channels - I really like your enthusiasm and obvious love for music. Many thanks!
No , no , no .... Tarja is really the BEST
I love it when reactors do old and new versions together; how else are you supposed to know and appreciate the differences? Unfortunately it means you have to put up with a lot of the ‘versus’ crap and have still others telling you to ‘stop comparing!’, but whatever. This was fun; thanks!
I'm just here for him. His voice always brings me back, and his faces make me grin
Brilliant comment of You both 💜🎶🙏🏼 ....si keep on rollin this Beautifull Nightwish Train lovers ⚘💞🙋♂️
That's actually a really good catch you made. She feels kind of separated from the band here because this is their last tour with her and (i miiiight have made this up in my head) iirc it was after this specific show that they have her the letter (which you can actually read for yourself as it was an open letter) that informed her that they had decided to part ways, partly because she had started isolating herself from the other members during tours, not attending rehearsals, etc.
Oh dear, it seems you have opened a can of worms and given the pot a good stir, but no matter. Great reaction, the lady rather concisely summed up what I was thinking.