Learning Mccoy Tyner Comping Technique
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When playing behind a soloist in a modal tune, many musicians struggle to maintain interest and variety in their comping.
This video explains a comping technique that McCoy Tyner used, which will allow you to have better and more interesting interaction with a soloist on a modal tune. It's especially useful for playing with tenor sax players.
This video won't teach you to sound like McCoy. It will teach you the landscape on which he developed his musicality, so you can explore that landscape and develop your own voice within that world of sound.
Give it a shot, and let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks!
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to all those folks who complain about not seeing the keys during this video: if you can't learn this from the video as is, then you are not ready to learn this concept.
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it's not the point
Almighty Shux it is the point, he describes it and plays it. it's a pretty simple lesson, if you can't get it from hearing what he plays and says then there is no point in watching the video.
Stack harmonic intervals of 4ths. Count scale/mode steps (starting with , _including_ the bottom-most/bass pitch/note of each chord (voicing).
Spelling out the chords: C-F-B Eb-G
you rock
Thanks! It's great to have people around the world learning from my videos. I hope it is helpful!
this channel is a goldmine, so much great info
I am a Chapman Stick player, and I have been studying these video's to get and understand my poly chords… Thanks so much
This is the clearest and most useful explanation of this I have seen yet! Thanks!
After listening to McCoy Tyner for decades, thanks to you, I now finally understand the methodology behind his brilliance. Thanks!!!!
as guitars are tuned in 4ths, this is one of those rare instances where these voicings are actually easier on the guitar than on the piano 😆 great videos!!!!
Very nice bro! Thank you for this! I always appreciate other musicians who are willing to share what they've learned versus being selfish and trying to compete with everybody!
Thank-you so much! This is one of the most helpful lessons I've encountered in a mere 8 minutes..keep up the good work!!
Thank you!! I'm so glad this is effective. I'll try to post more soon.
I have been trying to learn this since i first heard A Love Supreme in1964. Thanks.
Great video, Mccoy Tyner's piano was perfect for that spirital vibe that Coltrane had after A Love Supreme.
wow....now I know where my dad some of his influence. wish he was still here,. I sire effed my life not following music but it's never too late, ...WONDERFUL, FANTASTIC, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
This is great. Everything is spelled out and gives you something you can work with.
Couldn't hear if you were saying Gb or Eb on the third chord so was glad that Brian spelled it out.
I'll be looking up your other videos. Thanks for everything!
Love it, sets me on the direction I want to go. Love classical and jazz, this sets me on where I want to go.
You, sir, are absolutely welcome!!
Man, this is so helpful, even for me as a guitarist. Keep them coming!
Very nice jazz I am self taught and play soul, blues, and limited jazz and understand lot of your playing would love to see you improvise even more in an easy key like C and slow down the actual improvisation so I can learn from your style even more and it would be great if you had a camera angle where your hair didn't block some of the video. I really appreciate you making these videos and have tried for years to find someone to take some serious jazz improv lessons! Keep up the good work !!!
I like how bird interacts with the McCoy Tyner voicings.
Thankyou so much for this and all your tutorials. I am an English piano player who has only ever managed to master stride and blues styles. I have been trying to get to grips with more modern bop and modal styles without much success but your excellent vids have really helped get me into this so I can begin to sound more like Jarrett, Tyner and evans (with lots of practice!).
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dude! thanks for this sic comp. i pulled out my tenor and it went crazy trying to keep up with this. finally caught up, then started owning it, but now my alto is jealous!!:)
One of the best explanations i have seen of this style. I have some work to do.
man, thank you! Ok, I'm seriously going to buckle down and try to do a few more of these.
Super Input, bringt mich richtig voran. Danke Dir dafür!
You're welcome!! Very glad you and everyone else is getting something out of the vid.
So glad I found your channel. You are giving priceless knowledge
Awesome videos. I hope you go further in this particular lesson. Love the Mccoy style. VERY helpful video !!!
Brilliant! Thank you for these magnificent insights! I got it right away, fast modal swing! behind a Tenor, how exciting, I'm practicing this right away!
Thanks, and you're welcome!
Just he is legend thank you!!!
Practical demonstration! So much better than some theory wonk trying to mystify and confuse.
This channel is amazing! Great stuff, thank you so much! :)
Thank very much the lesson. 👊❤🎹from South Africa
you're welcome, thanks for watching!
Thanks its great stuff your teaching.Please keep making more videos.
Very well explained. Camera angle really helps. Well done. Thanks.
HEY> Can you do a video going into the whole concept of 'plaining'? I've always wondered how he was chose the voicings to get that sound. That's one thing McCoy does that I love.
Right on man that's what I'm talking about that's a funky groove there man I like it thank you
i play guitar and i learn alot form your videos :) keep em comming
Awesome approach. Congrats from Brazil.
Phenomenal video
wow it does sound awesomely cool! thank you so much for explaining this!!! really you're great thanks!!!
Dig!! So glad you're getting some out of this.
Dope I got to try it
i sequenced this comp and added some beats and BAM! my tenor had no choice but to howl out some sic grunty sounz...now my alto is jealous:)
This really helps and motivates :) thanks a lot.. you are a great teacher and player :)
I love this video man! I learned a lot
thanks!! I'm so glad this helped :)
Very Nice video, thank you from Argentina!
Cool way to get players hip to cool voicings. Getting my tenor out now :)
excelente justo lo que andaba buscando. gracias
Thanks man, I play guitar and you explained the technique really well and what kind of ideas you can do and it transfers pretty easily to guitar.
omg awesome!! :) i always wondered how he played now i have a bit more of an idea thanks from colombia
Great lesson! Thanks a lot!
A lot of tenor players adopted the technique that Coltrane used for playing along with chromatic planing. More often than not, when I play with a tenor player who is well-studied and has adopted an understanding of jazz history in their playing, they will follow right along if you start twisting the harmony in different directions on a modal tune as I describe in this video.
You're a smart young man. Study the best.
Very useful
thank you!
late to watching this, but this is a gem!
I'm getting into tyner a lot lately! I just practiced almost exactly the same comping! I saw it on Lot2Learns youtube channel ;)
Thank you!
i like your head :) i haven't read any single comment, but i think should be useful to better understand - keep on like this, thx
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Thanks for the breakdown bro
Outstanding!!!!
superb lesson
Cool! Very inspirational...
This is great, thanks!
Great stuff. Thank You.
I originally got to know through practicing this way, but it took me a while to get it down way before I made this vid :)
nice tutorial man but you gotta keep your head out of the picture so we have a clear view...Keep em coming cos you got great delivery. thanks
Thanka for sharing!
great lesson!
Awesome
Yeah man!
It's a Boss DB-30. Yep, it's got a swing! it's not a real swing - it's actually just triplets with the first triplet left out, but it works great for practicing accuracy.
great!!!thanks so much.
This is so good thanks
I've loving your videos! They present everything as both impressive and accessible. Quick question, as you were learning this, did you already have all the 'So What' chords and fourth chords in every key down, or were you getting to know them through this type of pattern?
compliments on the greating you scared the shit out of me :)
THANKYOU!
Thanks!!!!! I like this!!!!
you're welcome. kinda cool to see people still liking this video from the younger me 😆
Great Vid! Thanks!
Thanks for this video. You really break down things in a nice way! What are your thoughts on weak/strong beats and inside/outside playing? I think its kinda related to what you are doing here with the "planing".
Thanks!
This is absolutely brilliant. You're videos are very informative and do a great deal of helping us musicians get excited to practice. Hats off to you sir. Hope to see some more tutorials from you. Perhaps a video on chord relations and substitutions on a well known standard? Cheers!
Thanks ;)
thx! very useful!
So helpful! Suscribed.
This angle would be really cool and radical if you moved the camera forward about a foot and angled it backward so we could see your face and the keys angled downward.
For what it's worth, I find it easier (not that any of this is "easy") to name quartal voicings from the top down. So when you play in thirds you think bottom up but when you play in fourths, you think top down in terms of function. So the F chord isn't defined as A(3) D(13) G(9) C(5) F(1), it's defined as F C G D A going top down. Maybe it's just the way I first learned it, I'm sure you're familiar with the Mantooth book? What do you think? Good post. I like the dorian voicing Eb A D G C.
I'm a drummer, and this is still cool.
Thanks man
Thank you ^)
This is greate
So according to this video, Tyner does not play Major 7 though? Only Dominant? Please explain. Thank you.
i thought it was called a side slip when you go half steps around the root. i guess the word doesnt really matter. thats just what they taught me at Berklee. I like planeing as well.
I always thought Bill Evans originated the use of these quartal chords. The way theyre sequenced definitely sounds like McCoy though
And guess where this came from? Yup---the music of 20th-century composer Paul Hindemith, who used such in many of his middle-period symphonic and chamber works.
@@zitacarno4443 True , but Eric Satie (french composer, the real father of the badly named "impressionist" era) was using sequential quartal chords way back in 1890. Check "Les Fil de Eitoiles", you might think you are listening to a Herbie Hancock ballad intro from the 1960's.
Next, show us the Pent. scales which go with these voicings.
thanks bro thats quality playing. so can you use this technique over any minor modal tunes? over what chord progression can you use it on? not just ii--v-i?
This video is really helpful thank you. Please keep them coming. Can I ask the theory behind the voicing? i.e. for the first two chords there's a 3rd btwn the top two voices (then the other chords are all quartal): does it sound bad to keep the 3rd between the top two voices for all the chords because of the minor 9 clash between the top voice and the second from the bottom voice? Is that the 'theory' behind it?
Like cm7b5-F alt- Bbm6, thanks