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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2024
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😂😂@@sparshcastic
Happy Pregnancy Life
Sparsh, You must have done great tapasya in your past lives that someone like saakshaath Vimoh is channeling your positive energy to shower blessings on this youtube audience.
But seriously, great stream. Huge difference in the calm-dhairya nature of Vimoh and the bubbly-excited nature of Sparsh, but worked out well.
@@ShobhitGupta12 Thank you so much, always glad to see you
i admire sparsh's enthusiasm and persistence. The 20 years of gap in experience shows in the way you both formulate your answers. This is in no way to demean Sparsh but just a curious observation and since I'm closer to sparsh's age, a thing for me to observe and adopt. 😊
Vimoh aapki High level understanding Har koe nahi smjh skta..Sparsh jaise bnde hi Smjh skte hai
Understanding take time ....
Love the work that you are doing Vimoh!
What the last caller was saying about the Burakumin in Japan is wrong. Discrimination against the Burakumin still happen today, with them not getting good accommodation, jobs, and in some cases getting rejected from marriages. Many Burakumin end up joining the Yakuza even today, because of this systemic discrimination.
Thanks!
Welcome!
i'm also 20 years old and same story . i learned a lot of things during lockdown. what a coincidence..
Ghule jee. Who says we shouldn’t do unnatural and abnormal things. ? We were never made to travel at 800mph in the air. But we made an environment in which we do that.
because it was a need....do you think i should walk using my head and go to school 9 pm at night?
@@tijunahbsarma there was no need. People lived for thousands of years without aero planes. It was a desire. To travel far away. To earn more money. To enable businesses.
@@akshay5295 striking a tower with an aircraft is also abnormal, but it was done too, not all desires lead to well being, humans can differentiate better and worse desires
@@tijunahbsarma we can all agree that desires that lead to others death are bad.
Sure. All desires don’t lead to well being. Of course. No one said they do. Desire to eat a lot of sugar doesn’t lead to well being. But humans cannot differentiate between what’s good and what’s bad just by how we feel about it.
And telling others what’s you FEEL is good or bad definitely doesn’t lead to well being of anyone.
My point was it’s not necessarily good or bad based on whether it’s natural or not. Playing chess isn’t natural. It’s social. Does it harm others? No. Does homosexuality harm others ? No.
@@tijunahbsarma humans are biased. And they cannot easily differentiate between good and bad. People for hundreds of years thought it’s good to keep women uneducated. Most people thought that. So popularity of a thought and what people think about it has no relation to its actual goodness. People cannot easily differentiate.
Vimoh! Your statement on "caste certificate and reservation are being given to slap brahmanism on the face". I just love it and will use it on people who are like that Brahman caller. 👍🏾👌🏾
How to join plz , I want to ask you something serious for me about the priority of doings bcz in ahead there are two ways...which one should be the best ...I need your help/suggest
Hey! Vimoh pls talk about myth in religions
Hey sparsh where's the T shirt from??
Hey hi @vimoh I follow ur videos everytime I appreciate your efforts on putting this information out here internet.
I have recently watched some of the interesting stories/documentry about rebirth
One about Shanti Devi and Titu Singh...
I would really like to know your take on it...
Anyone else can also share their views on it.
Ghule ji shaadi kar lo fir companionship ka pata chal jayega 😅
I will subscribe sparsh's channel
Hey @sparshcastic nice t shirt bro
Thanks Vimoh. Since casteism is touched upon (lol @ my pun) in this video, I wanted to share this excellent documentary by Mr. Anand Patwardhan called "Vivek | Reason": ruclips.net/video/-4Dcuh0qbpo/видео.htmlsi=kD93Q0CrB-vAsk3U
This documentary is about casteism, but also about the 4 most prominent atheists/rationalists who were systemically murdered in the last 10 years, Narendra Dabholkar, Govind Pansare, MM Kalburgi and Gauri Lankesh.
I grew up caste agnostic, But now I realize that being caste agnostic is just a privilege of not being lower caste.
The reason I share this video is because only after watching this video I realized that my eyes were closed all this time, and casteism is real even today.
ghule was incorrect to assume that sex's only purpose is reproduction. the gene causing homosexuality would not have survived if that were the case. like sparsh said, the gene survived for a reason and just we don't know how we can't just assume stuff. so it is completely natural
yes, sex's only purpose is to reproduce, why would a male go to a female and put it's reproductive organ into her out of no reason ? it makes no sense until they have a reason to do it, that's why nature, through the course of evolution assigned the endocrine systems of male and female in an intercomplementary manner such that the act of sex gives pleasure and both the male and female get driven by the hormones to come together and mate { it was necessary cause the gametes are present in 2 different bodies and for them to come together, couple must mate}
the goal is maintaining the species by reproduction , the act for it is sex, and what makes it happen is 'pleasure'...pleasure itself isn't the purpose of it, you can use the act for it but that doesn't justify that nature designed sex as an act for pleasure.........it's just a evolved version of asexual reproductions.....be it sexual or asexual, the consequence is creation of progeny....pleasure is the driving force only........i think that ghule guy was trying to say that why should one define oneself on the basis of one's sexuality only!
The title of the video had me dying 😂
Sir, haryana main 4 din pahle ek honour kill hua hy, 17 year ka ladka uska didi ki murder ki jo ek dalit se shadi ki thi. Please caste ke liye pbm bahat ho rha hy india main. Specially agar ladka nichi caste ka ho toh. Please ek video banaiye sir.
Aap "haryana honour killing" Google pe likhiye woh 4 din pahle wala news ayega. Please sir. Koi news channel ispe video nhi krta. Basic right hy ya hamari.
Koi bhi channel isko cover nhi kr rha hy.
Ap logo se prarthana hy ki kripya krke ispe ek video banaiye.
Osm vimoh ❤
Hello 🤗
Sparsh can learn to modulate his voice to understand better. He speaks to fast and also pls stop using " theek hai na" too often. Vimoh speak very clear and better to understand. All the best Sparsh.😊
Debates between atheist and theist are like science vs philosophy.
By the way love your videos❤❤❤
Yr callers sound read or literate on these matters on the face value at least, but the ground reality is way worse my acquaintances have no idea of casteism,lgbt rights, or even the g word occurring in Palestine ,i called out the tolls of unalived infants to a colleague but he said in wars these things happen,they know nothing of the history of israel and Palestine,they r right leaning,and yesterday a colleague of mine called me unbiased and not-secular while i m an open atheist just coz i criticise the ruling govt,he asked me why dont u ask the opposition for plans in which the ruling is lacking, i told him that there are mentions in the manifesto ,but he wont stop arguing, in the end i have to mute myself but i have positively influenced a couple of people in my circle and still try my best however i can ❤ thanks Vimoh and Sparsh for the help to humanity and this nation ❤
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Ghooley's voice sounded a lot like that mere dost ka reincarnation hua hai guy
Aapko idiot pepole psnd nhi hai but they need you so be humble towards them
Hi dear vimoh this sat if I got time and energy than definitely come for debate and topic will really different and yes you can ask me what is my actual purpose on that I will provide my intense over there hope I got time and opportunity for same we may get good debate and my request it should be two communication plz .....
This time it will not on krishna different topic don't assume it related to krishna only
shouldn't LGBTQIA+ get reservations too ??
what do you think??
1- शुन्य की खोजा भारत मे जिसके बिना विज्ञान एक भी आविष्कार नहीं कर सकता l
2- दशमलव की खोज भारत मे l
3- लगभग हर प्रकार के गणित की खोज भारत मे l
4- शतरंज की खोज भारत मे
5- जुडो कराटे मार्शल आर्ट की खोज भारत मे
6- भूगोल सदियों से भारत मे
7- आयुर्वेद और सर्जरी की खोज भारत मे
8- भवन निर्माण भारत के जबरदस्त
9- ऐसे ऐसे मन्दिर बनाये कि विज्ञान भी दांतों तले उंगली दबा रहा है - आप भी घूम आओ एक बार और सच को अपनी नंगी आँखों से देख लो l मंदिरों की पेचिदगियाँ ही साबित कर देंगी कि भारत की लोगों का दिमाग जबरदस्त था l मंदिरों को घूम लो ये भारत मे ही हैं आपकी आँखों के सामने ही हैं - इनकी इंजीनियरिंग, बारीकी, पेचिदगियाँ, दिमागी माथापच्ची खुद ही देखो जानो समझो - किसने रोका है l
10- भारत के मंदिरों मे सोने, चांदी, हीरे, पन्ने, मोतियों, कीमती पत्थरों के भंडार थे जिनको लूटने के लिए हमले हुए और हमलावरो ने जेबें भरी मगर हमलावरो ने अक्ल और ज्ञान की दुकान नालंदा यूनिवर्सिटी को आग लगा दी - ये सत्य है, कैसे की सत्य को नकारेगा l मंदिरों मे आज भी खजाने मिल रहे हैं l
11- भारत मे संख्याओं की खोज इकाई दहाई सैकडा से होते हुए करोड अरब खरब नील पदम शंख महाशंख और फिर अनंत तक पहुंचती है और फिर शुन्य पर आज जाती है और ये इतनी माथापच्ची का कमाल है जिसको कम्प्यूटर भी नहीं कर सकता है l
भारत मे इतना ज्ञान तथा और भी बहुत कुछ है जिसका अभी अध्ययन होना बाकी है l
भारत पहली भी नम्बर एक था दुनिया मे और अब फिर अपनी इसी ज्ञान और अक्ल की दम पर नम्बर एक बन जायेगा आने वाले महज बीस सालों मे l
हमारे वैज्ञानिक खासकर दक्षिण भारत के वैज्ञानिक ऐसी ऐसी चीजो की खोज कर रहे हैं कि दुनिया आश्चर्यचकित रह जायेगी कि का ऐसा भी हो सकता है ???? कमाल है l
ऐसा ही एक कमाल भारत के ऋषियों ने किया था जब उन्होंने शुन्य की खोज की थी l शुन्य के बिन दुनिया का विज्ञान एक कदम भी आगे नहीं चल सकता है ये बात सभी बुद्धिमान लोग जानते हैं - दुनिया को अहसान मानना चाहिए ऋषिओं का कि शुन्य दे गये नहीं तो लोग आज भी बाबा आदम के जमाने मे घूम रहे होते l
पुनर्जन्म और कर्मफल जिस दिन दुनिया को समझ मे आ जायेगा शुन्य की तरह तो यकीन जानो दुनिया को बड़ा फायदा होगा जैसे शुन्य से फायदा हो रहा है l पुनर्जन्म और कर्मफल को समझते ही दुनिया गलत काम, हत्त्या, हिंसा नहीं करेगी और उनको वसुधैव कुटुंबकम का ज्ञान विज्ञान समझ मे आ जायेगा और दुनिया बेहतर हो जायेगी l
सत्य आसानी से समझ मे नहीं आता है ये सत्य हज़ारों लाखों ऋषियों ने, अलग अलग समय पर, अलग अलग जगहों पर दिया है तो लाखों ऋषियों ने जब खोज कर ली तो लाखों ऋषियों द्वारा कही गई बात झूंठ कैसे हो सकती है l
जैसे और जितना शुन्य सत्य है और हम इंसानो के काम की चीज है ठीक वैसे ही पुनर्जन्म, कर्मफल भी सत्य हैं और हम सभी इंसानो और जीवों के लिए भी काम की चीज है l
खुद ही जानो यार पढ़ो वेदों को, समझो उनको, अनुभव करो उनका, ध्यान, धारणा, समाधि, योग करो और जान लो सत्य को l
तो खोज जारी रखो और खोजते रहो, सोचते रहो, सवाल पर सवाल करते रहो - हर बार कुछ नया ही मिलेगा - ये ही माया और मिथ्या जगत है तथा इसकी सारी बातें नकली, झूंठी, बदलने वाली और अंत मे शुन्य ही हो जाने वाली हैं और शुन्य के बिना काम नहीं चलता l
Vimoh very rude with Ghule
Love it
Deservedly so.
@@lasyak6355 it just gives Vimoh’s haters on the right to strawman him with something. And do we want to change Ghule or just make him feel hatred towards us? What’s our goal. I think changing his mind is better. Which is not possible if we talk rudely to people like him.
@@akshay5295 respectability politics never works. So called Vimoh haters will complain no matter what. If someone is saying some obvious homophobic shit(he definitely does not have a whole lot of respect towards a certain type of people) then Vimoh should call him out
Hi @vimoh Fan of your content I enjoy watching you, but I have one feedback, I hope you if you see this try to consider it
When ever the Caller who is trying to make his/ her point you don’t let them continue if it doesn’t match your opinion or fact, as a viewer I want to listen both the side (I agree you are right most of the time because you make your point based on fact) but 8 want to listen to other side as well but i feel you get aggressive towards them and don’t let them complete their argument. This is specifically about the homosexuality argument the guy could not make his point only. If you ask me personally I don’t have a problem with homosexuality and I don’t see as a sin or something. But I would definitely like to hear from other side why they think so ?
He did make his point. He was just repeating it. In case it was not clear, here is what he was saying. His argument was that homosexuality is deviant behaviour and that it should not be encouraged. Also, that his digust towards homosexual people is justified because he thinks homsexuality is unnatural.
There was nothing extraordinary about his argument. Just becaise he was spewing hatred calmly, doesn't mean he wasn't spewing hatred.
@@vimohlive I completely agree with you, as I mentioned in my comment I support homosexuality and I don’t see any wrong in it, one of my colleague and best friend is a homosexual. But my feedback was about letting others to make their point because your content inspires many people and I dont want a person who is new to your channel think that you are trying to shut other person, which is not true I know, but yes its my feedback. I personally want your content to reach wider audience because I myself I am agnostic.
Gave me a pro-capitalist impression from this podcast. is he the same guy who said in his podcast ,Indian philosophies are solution-based while western one is confusing and nihilistic?also he talked about false dowry/rape case with an MRA under "toxic feminism".. If not, apologies in advance
Bro what's ur qualifications?
Pls ek baar stream kr lijiye thoda bhut hme bhi Rationalist bna dijiye.
Jaise apne ru chi ka sarma(pali) ke sath ki thi.
Why did you cut ur hairs
Hot summer
Is vimoh going bald?
You will too. I will too😂
He got a haircut
hairchut
Nonetheless, abolish the police 😂
BY removing poorly alleviation policies and removing news and talking about it poverty can be removed/abolished likewise by removing policies and news and talks about social problems , discrimination from news and by not talking about it. Thus by not talking about Caste and removing policies agaisnt caste sustainability ( reservation) we can remove/abolish castiesm perfectly.