Godet-Egli-Vincent Motorcycle - Full Overview And Ride
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- In this video our friend John Brannan and David Lancaster give us full overview and ride on the Godet-Egli-Vincent Motorcycle - Sport GT.
We also talk about some of this history behind the Godet brand, talk about some of the motorcycles very unique features, learn how to start it and take it out for a ride.
This featured video is just over 20 minutes long. Please feel free to use the chapters to skip to the section of the video that interests you the most.
0:00 Introduction
0:29 Introduction to the Godet-Egli-Vincent Sport GT motorcycle
2:49 Introducing David Lancaster
2:59 Introducing Speed Is Expensive
3:18 David's opinion of the Godet-Egli-Vincent Sport GT motorcycle
3:28 Fritz Egli's frame design
5:38 Patrick Godet's development of the Godet motorcycle
7:03 Godet factory and Patrick's team
8:27 The engine - Godet vs Black Shadow vs Black Lightening
10:08 The roots of the bike
10:53 Cold starting
11:45 Detailed look at the chassis
15:19 Suspension and brakes
15:57 Controls
16:49 One of David's best rides - a lovely story
18:30 Final thoughts
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// A BIG THANK YOU TO
- John Brannan for taking the time out of his day to film with us.
- Stephen Whittaker for allowing us to take his Godet-Egli-Vincent Sport GT motorcycle out for a run.
- David Lancaster for also taking the time out of his day to film with us and putting us in touch with John and Stephen initially.
- Gerry Jenkinson and David Lancaster for allowing us to use some of their photos and videos they have shot and collected over the years for Speed Is Expensive. David and Gerry also played a big part in the editing of this video; getting credits, asking people for photos and checking the flow of the edit. Gerry's video production company name is VINdeo. vindeo.co.uk/
- Sandra Gillard for her lovely photos of Patrick. FOLLOW Sandra on Instagram here:
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- Asphalt & Rubber for their photo of Fritz Egli at Bonneville.
- Jean Pierre Boulmé for his photo of Patrick racing.
- Dave Norvinbike for his photo of Patrick Godet's original Godet-Egli-Vincent motorcycles and David Lancaster.
- James Robinson and the team over at The Classic MotorCycle magazine for allowing us to use their photo of John Oakes Vincent Meteor.
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- John Oakes for also allowing us to use the photo of his Vincent Meteor . FOLLOW John Oakes on Instagram here: / johno1618
- Geoff Preece for his photo of Margaret Egli at Church Lawford.
- Tom Lancaster for his photo of David Lancaster on the Vincent Black Shadow.
- Godet Motorcycles for allowing us to use the videos of their factory. www.godet-motorcycles.fr FOLLOW Godet motorcycles in Instagram here:
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- Gun Hill Studios for their photo of John Brannan at the Cop Hill Climb. www.gunhillstudios.com/
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// David Lancaster is the producer and director of a film called Speed Is Expensive, which is all about the untold story of the Vincent motorcycle.
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So heartening to find a detailed, well considered and detailed production on RUclips! Well done - I look forward to the movie.
Hi Chris, thanks for your kind words, glad you enjoyed the video!
So many Bike-builders have been inspired by Vincent .The Yamaha TR1 XV1000 was inspired by Vincent , they bought a Vincent , stripped-it and came up with their first big V-twin , it is a great bike to ride and own ,like this one Godet-Egli) it would never have existed but for Vincent . Thanks for a great vid , such beautiful machines. Dave NZ
I used to think the Ducati 750 sport was the most beautiful bike, but I think the Godet Vincent has to take that honour. This was a very interesting and inspiring video.
In the days when Ducati 750 and 860 bikes were dropping like flies due to oiling failure (frequently the use of the wrong oils), a few of them got given Vincent engines. The engine fits really well, and is a fine alternative to an Egli. They are referred to as a Vincati
"70 to 80 hp is ideal for a machine like this", I couldn't agree more, air cooling keeps it simple, and there's a hell of a lot more to enjoying a motorcycle ride than just trying to get to "point B" as fast as humanly possible. BEAUTIFUL, clean machines, compared to some modern motorcycles that look like full sized plastic toys. My main love was Norton Commandos, but I would have loved one of these if they had been within my means. I did enjoy a "tuber" '97 Buell, which would be the modern (90's) equivalent, that was very satisfying in the Rocky Mountains...Thanks for a very informative and nicely done video.
I owned the 1st Egli Godet he built (the bue one sent to Bilbao in the Guggenheim Museum we can see in the video), with a genuine 1000 cc engine from a B Rapide , wonderful bike , and Patrick let me test a 1330 Godet with 5 gear box, it was amazing ! what a wonderful bike, I miss him as a friend and as a genious mecanic (sorry for my poor English) They are the most desirable classic motorbikes (thanks to David as well)
Thanks for your comments Dominique, that’s very interesting, I’m sure other people will be interested too.
@@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel thank you (I wrote some correction)
No problem, all makes perfect sense and is very clear :)
Thank you for your comments Dominique.
Thank you so much for posting this video up. It is comforting to know that there are still film makers out in the world, who produce interesting, informative and quality content. Nowadays, when "Television" is catering to the lowest common denomination "Intellect-wise", these video films are an oasis of quality in a desert of dross!
Awesome! So beautiful! Happy to know that one can still buy a “Vincent” ! I don’t think I could afford one but still! I’m happy to know there are craftsman out there building these awesome motorcycles! TY
Losing Patrick Godet was a huge blow to the classic motorcycle world. Thanks for a great review. Dean in Oxfordshire.
Very true Dean, his legend lives on eh!
Patrick was a true gentleman, such a pleasure to have made his acquaintance, albeit so briefly. RIP Patrick.
I've been wanting that bike for 25 years! Thanks for the video because that's the closest I'll ever get to $$$. Thank you very much for the video. it was excellent!
Thank you for this wonderful video.
In my younger days I owned a black and gold Ducati 900SS with Conti exhausts and Dellorto carbs with open bellmouths.
That's as close as I got to these beautiful machines.
Keep up the good work.
Great video, you're all obviously knowledgeable bike enthusiasts, l had an early 70,s Ducati 750 which had the idea of the v twin engine as an integral part of the frame, ie supported from the top of the motor,that bike looked very similar in profile and stance to the Godet Vincent, great work people 👍
That was a courageous line through that first blind bend!
Both my Twins, Yamaha XV920RH and Honda VTR1000F, incorporate the engine as a stressed member inspired by Vincent. I’d love to own any Vincent, however I am very happy with my Twins :)
Superb machine and wonderfully knowledgeable experts 👍👌
Two-wheeled jewelry.
To quote "Fiddler on the Roof" - "If I were a Rich Man" , I would own a couple of these beautiful motorcycles..
I think this is a fantastic idea. Especially using a replica vincent engine. Bravo!! Keep em coming. Looking forward to the movie.
Wow what a fabulous video you have made here, a credit to all involved.
They are indeed beautiful machines.
Hey Doug, thank you for you kind words, much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thankyou. Glad you enjoyed it.
This channel deserves a million subscribers already !
Comment of the day, thank you Yogaraj, spoken like a true fan of the Vincent :)
Nice to see a Moto Morini lurking in the background.
I owned 3 of them. Super little machines.
Thank you guys for putting this insightful video together. It joins up some very significant people and their technical achievements over seven decades; a New Zealander, Phil Irving, in the late '40s through to a very clever Frenchman, M. Godet (RIP). Lovely machines, knowledgeable commentary and raw enthusiam...a great channel!
Hey Andy, thank you for your kind words. Lot of people involved in this project and they all really pulled together. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Phil Irving was Australian.
Born in Victoria
Every decent engineer knows that the name of the game is a series of artfully made compromises. The ones on these new Vincent's seem particularly well thought out and implemented, so it's a lovely job all round, well done to all involved.
Yes you are correct you have to compromise that is the designers art but you also need a brief tightly defined .I marvel at the outcome but still feel that the initial idea was a bit too heritage led . but what do I know!
Art and poetry on wheels! 😎😍
Congratulations on a very interesting video. Also,congratulations on NOT having to include music 'in the background',which inevitably drowns out the narrator.
Thanks for the nice comments Graham, glad you enjoyed the video :)
Great one John! Now I know all about the Godet. EEEE AWWW!!!
excellent overview of the Godet -Eg;li - Vincent, but leaves us chomping at the bit for the release of 'Speed is Expensive', this surely must be up there with 'films that were longest in production'.
Hey, too right, we can't wait for it to come out!
Thanks . This film was a day in shooting , a couple of weeks in edit and twenty minutes long. Davids film has hundreds of hours of archive to edit, he has traveled the world to do interviews and will be the definitive film on the subject, so has been a hugely more time consuming and expensive film to produce. I along with very many others will be delighted to see his mammoth task delivered and we all very much look forward to seeing it. I hope you will enjoy it too?
Wow my club had the pleasure of 2 Godet Vincent's at our Berry bike show .they were then raced at IoM one a twin the other a single
I could never realistically afford a Vincent,but was lucky enough to have owned a Cagiva Raptor that appeared a few times in shot,which is incidentally a hybrid of Suzuki SV engine and Cagiva frame.
Thanks, the raptor is top fun too and ,did you notice my Morini in the background? Bit of a vtwin thing going on here!
John Brannan That’s great,I have three Morini,you can see them on my RUclips channel.
Thank you very much for a really interesting and enjoyable video. Best wishes with the movie. Can't wait to see it.
Thanks Mike! Check out The Mighty Garage channel guys, Highly recommended!
Thankyou for your comment. It was always the intention to share Patricks genius with the world. We are all looking forward to Davids film too and Im sure it will be well worth the wait.
What a machine! Just amazing ...
Fantastic video that has helped with som gaps in my historical knowledge of the Vincent. I too have a Fritz Egli framed motorcycle in the form of a Sachs 650 roadster.
It's the modern improvements which takes it to the next level of a Vincent dream bike, old look with new styling.
So true :)
Couldn't agree more , Thanks for your comment.
Very interesting.
A magnificent machine!
Glad you like it Paul!
I love it too. Thank you for the video
Great job....awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it Hellcat :)
Nice video, nice motorcycle!! Thank you from Hungary!!
Cheers for your nice comments!
I would pay to work in a factory like that, and go to work with just a mouthfull of hot gravel for breakfast 👍
Yes but apparently the job specification requires spreading gasket sealant with a naked finger.
This machine and the MV Agusta 750s are just about my dream bikes, if I win the lottery...
I don't know if someone from the channel reads this, but the engine they are using here; May that be the Aussie made Irving-Vincent? By enthusiast Ken Horner who contacted Phil Irving in retirement down under and got his blessing in further developing this beautiful brute of an engine? Irving-Vincent, which makes their own line of racing motorcycles based on this engine, including a 4 valve 1600cc "Pro-Twin Class" with a whopping 186 Bhp at 7000 rpm(!) - I mean, from an engine conceived around the beginning of WW2, with a flywheel and all, with all the pressure and torque vectors and hoopla going on in there - jeez!
The exhaust note must be divine. But I digress, this is about Godet Egli-Vincent - no doubt the most beautiful Cafe Racer ever built.
Hey, yeah, Alex from the channel here. Didn't know about Ken so thanks for sharing that and we've started to look into his work. You know much about what Ken's up to now?
Beautiful, fantastic, awesome 😎 love every part absolutely a gem, thank you from N.Z.😎👍🇳🇿🌈😎KIWI PIP 😎👍🇳🇿🌈😎
Thank you... so much !
Thank you for your lovely photos :)
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
@@johnbrannan7953 Thanks
Great video!! 🇨🇭
Thank you Martin!
Had seen a few motor cycle magazines with these in them with interviews,, had a modern take with the electric start and conventional front forks,, great motorcycle such a loss,, any out there now lucky owners ☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland great viewing
Thanks for your nice comments Cecil!
Should have more riding scenes, in my opinion.
Pure bliss of a motorcycle fit for heaven. My only complaint, $100K US for a custom motorcycle and you get a mild steal frame? OK, save a few $$ and don't build it in titanium, but you would think they could engineer it in Chrome Alloy, Magnesium Alloy... Maybe its a $3K option, who knows?
Stunner! If only we could dump those huge yellow plates on the back of our bikes.
I keep the yellow plates, as it draws questions from the innocents!
The pinacle of all motorcycles,i will ride my thruxton and just dream away about the egli Goddard vincent....😢
I wish i was a millionaire every time i see a vincent. Especially the Egli's.
I know a billionaire, but he just collects Ferraris and McLarens.
Ahhhh .... the two-litre Vitesse in the shed !!
My personal opinion is that the single cylinder Vincent was a good bike but the twin was a lot of work to maintain heavy to ride and park and just not realistic as a form of transportation cleaning it was a full time job .I believe the engine was not as robust as many other British bikes .Of course bikes today are rarely used to go to work and have been relegated to setting speed records at Bonneville and the Sunday run to the lakes.
She is sooo pretty... got to start saving my pennies !
What would the cost of a new one with shipping to New York state in America I wonder?
Beautiful motorcycle! When can I buy one.
Search Vincent Godet on Google, they make these bespoke bikes in France, try this www.godet-motorcycles.fr/
This was very interesting ! Thank you for sharing! the glaring difference between the Vincent series c and the Egli is the Vincent has what looks like a mono shock…I can’t really tell for sure but that’s what it looks like. Why did Egli go with the dual shock? Also, with shock technology these days, it’s easier then ever to have a back end look like an original Vincent(with the mono shock). Can you speak to how the original rides as a result of the mono-shock ? And if you buy and Egli from the factory, can you say…I want a mono shock look versus the dual shock?
The Series B Vincent rear suspension has two spring boxes, and relies on friction dampers which also support the seat. The Series C models got a hydraulic damper between the springs. It's Vincent's own design, made in their factory. An identical Vicent damper was fitted to the Girdraulic front fork fitted to Series C models. The Girdraulic is a much-developed stiff and strong version of a girder fork, with hydraulic damping, hence the name. It has good and bad features in standard form.
Egli tried hard to make his Vincent racers handle well, to modern race standards in the '60s, and was not able to achieve that by developing the stock Vincent chassis. That's why he developed his own. He has recently stated that the current developments in Vincent suspension and spring / damping would have enabled him to achieve what he needed (to race competitively and win) while keeping the main elements of the Vincent.
Well, there are some modern spring / damper arrangements which transform the Vincent. Currently you can buy an AVO rear coil-over, and a softer damper designed for the front (the original Vincent Series C dampers were the same front and back). The front suspension development gets a bit more radical. There's a new steering stem which alters the suspension geometry for less anti-dive, and more constant trail. That eliminates the infamous Vincent tank slapper which occasionally strikes.... Mine also has ball bearings in the lower link to eliminate friction. Add a softer set of springs and a hydraulic steering damper, and you get a fine handling bike. No need to toss it away and make a new chassis, just careful detailed development,
FWIW all Egli Vincents were dual shock. After the first 20 or so, they were made in England under licence by Slater, who actually got the frames made by Cheney. Later bikes made by Fritz Egli, usually with Japanese engines had space for a monoshock. It passes from the top of the triangulated rear fork, (a lighter version of the Vincent one), and goes to a lug under the tubular oil tank / main frame tube. That's right where the rear cylinder head is on an Egli Vincent V twin. Of course, if you put a Comet engine in your Egli frame, there 's no problem going monoshock. An Egli Comet is a rare bike, mind. Vincent folk also have a habit of putting V twin engines in place of the single. It's nice to be able to swap around.
@@pashakdescilly7517 this was an amazing m, informative and detailed response ! TY!
@@garyb2392 well, you asked an intelligent question....
WoW I did not know this, what is the cost?
Inverted forks, discs & mono shock ?
Egli did a 900 Duc as well I thought,
Are these still available?
👍👍👍🇦🇺
I've heard rumors that the Australian air force used some Vincent engines in their target drones in the late 50s, any truth in that ??!!
Why on earth would anyone vote this video down? 🤔
Combien ?
Hand squeezing silicone in the vicinity of oil galleries is a heresy.
Did anyone else think using a water hose to measure oil flow and oil capacity on a 2020 built motorcycle with a Vincent name doesn't seem or sound like the innovative Vincent of old?
A few other things also seemed non-innovative and behind the times on these bikes carrying the great Vincent name for the time period they're suppose to represent.
He lost me as I saw the carburators and no Katalytic Konverter. You have no chance to get a number plate for it here in Germany
It isn't a garden hose, FYI, it is engineering grade tubing and please help us all by showing your example of models of bikes that display oil flow and capacity in a single glance? also your details of what wasnt innovative would be welcome?
@@johnbrannan7953 That’s funny. Engineer Tubing. Why not call nuts and bolts “Engineer Fastners” Sorry, but I call things as I see them. And a $0.20 piece of tubing is not innovative. Any hoot, if Philip was alive today he might have incorporated an oil gage to give his customers a sense of value. Something everyone is familiar with and can glance at to see if oil is flowing/moving as it should. What do these bikes sell for again?
Otherwise, the bike looks like it hasn’t evolved since it’s conception in the late 40’s.
The side level tube is OK providing it never comes loose, but the top one looks cheap and home made, does not seem to belong to a deluxe 21st century bike; plus you could not see it riding at night so if I had one would replace it with an illuminated pressure gauge or a red idiot light. Otherwise a superb machine.
Any rice burner will run rings around these old bikes.
a stock vincent black shadow is a good machine on the road, and valuable as an artifact of its day.
but there are better engines today, if you want to build a super machine. it's seems a waste to wrap a gee whiz frame around a ho hum engine.
Absolutely uncomfortable and hard suspension, everything vibrated like hell in hi speed.(and low too)
..box type swing arm is big mistake !!! Ruining all the efforts !!😥😥
why?
@@johnbrannan7953 ..ruining the asthetic part of the bike , conventional tube type would look fab !!!😥😥...adore the race brake drums though !!!😍😍glad they didnt go for the disk setup.👍👍