I switched last year to the Lone Peak 5 from hiking boots. It makes hiking so much better. Granted, there are times when you need boots, but most of the time, I used my Altras. I absolutely love them.
are the Altras good for long-distance backpacking? I'm going on a trip this year where we'll be doing around 10 miles a day for 2 weeks, and I'm trying to decide on trail runners or hiking boots.
I'm an ultra runner and I've done 100 mile races in each of the last 3 lone peak models, The last model did feel a little clumsy but I really like the direction they're going in with the different widths. It would be nice to see them do that with the superior🤔 this was a very thorough video thank you so much, you did a great job👍
Just received my LP6 in brown or “gold” as my wife called them 😱 Straight out of box and on a hike & they are just the best. As comfortable, if not more than my 5 SEs. Love them❤️
I just converted into altras this year and have been loving it. I have never felt better! But please, please, for the love of God, can we please get an outsole that grips. It grips fine on dry terrain, but when things get wet, even morning dew, it can get flat out dangerous. What's worse is that it grips sometimes and not others, creating a real lack of confidence. And second guessing steps as you move through terrain. You'll hear people say, just get the Olympus, but I don't want the Olympus. I love my altras, but if I'm going out and it's supposed to rain or if I know I'm going to get wet, I go in one of my Saucony's, because they rotate the earth below your feet on EVERYTHING!
@@str8up50 even if it's not vibram specifically. You can make your own rubber compound that grips. As much as I don't like Salomon shoes, they do grip very well. And before I started in altras, my beloved Saucony mad rivers (and peregrine's for that matter) have so much grip, you can't wrap your mind around how it does what it does. Mad river is (or was) $110, peregrine $120 both shoes grip circles around Altra. They should be embarrassed. I still rely on my Saucony's in the weather quite a bit. They are just so reliable and predictable. Not to mention I have a TON of miles on my mad rivers and they still feel better than ever.
Superior will always be my favorite shoe from Altra as they fit my foot like a glove. LP more of a high volume kind of shoe but that new shoe lacing system got me interested
@@RunMoore If only Altra offer 2 version of Superior? One is the usual for hard/soft/rocky dry terrain. One has the lugs for gnarly muddy wet trail. Now that would be enough for me.
Yup I had one. I did a the first half of 100km race with it. 60KM or so.. Great traction and stability.. not so much on the cushion tho (well they are not design for that distance)
My first Altras were the Lone Peak 5. I wear a 10.5 in EE, these shoes feel like they were made for me. Easily the best shoe I've ever worn in my life. I bought the 6 a few weeks ago and just did an 8k race with them in some hybrid conditions (ie. not road). They felt fantastic. I love the added ventilation. Fit really is identical (for me) to the LP 5.
Wow, thank you!!…this was so informative…I recently went on a hike and along the way everyone was talking about ALTRA lone Peaks ..I never heard of it🙈)..I have wide feet and decided to get my 1st pair of trail shoes..absolutely the BEST decision I made👏🙌😃
Hi. Glad to see and support a video from the Motherland (my birthplace, Maryland). Brand spankin' new to the Lone Peak world and the "clown shoe" shape. I just bought a pair of these babies and I have an incessant worry: will the large toe box/clown shoe trip me up? I had a knee injury that completely stopped my from trail running. I have a longing to return to some light and intermittent trail running alongside hiking. I fear (big time) that I will trip and fall and, subsequently, re-injure my knee. Have you ever tripped because of the wide and weird toe box? Heard stories of this? I want to be brave but careful.
Agree, but wish they have all models in wide fit, or at least in OG fit...so pity to see they ruined timp by calling them standard , ie narrow... i wish they have it like version 1 or 1.5...
@@slavasss2189 I wanted to try the Timp too, but now it looks like that won’t happen. I originally started with the OG Lone Peak and Olympus. I probably can’t fit into the new Olympus unless they make it in a wide.
Wow, never thought I'd find a review as detailed as this! I'm planning to buy a pair of these for longer events (24hr/100k) and this review really helps. Have lots of Salomon and Asics shoes but in the years I've been buying Salomon shoes the fit and quality seems to have declined a bit so have been looking for alternatives like Hoka and now Altra. Thanks.
Love my Altras but I find the superior to be the best for me (not as bulky and more feel than than the Lone Peak). I like that Altra has gone narrower with their more recent models. They still have the wide toe box, but have a more secured fit which helps a ton when running technical trails with sharp turns. Good review though, these look better and less bulky than previous Lone Peak versions - would consider as a hiking/all around shoe.
I don't run. Only when I have to. Lol. I just got the LP6 wide in 9.5. I hike, hunt, walk, just not run. So, my kids as a surprise got me some LP5 in 9.5. So I will have both models. If they fit I will keep both for my daily use and hiking. With flat wide feet I struggle finding shoes/boots that fit. Having worn combat boots for 20+ years daily, I m looking forward to these shoes. Your review was great and helped me find these shoes. I struggle with the price. But my foot doctor convinced me to look at premium shoes (he uses Altras). I have Achilles Bursitis, and working on preventing it's flare-up. Again, thank you for the review. Note: I have worn Bedrock sandals for hiking for three years, I was looking for zero drops.
Ive been training on my LP5 on roads noT trails . The roads have been wet and slippery- they do the job. I got me 2 pairs of the LP5 -- LOVE them.. knowing the sucker that I’ am will be buying the LP6 too only because they are my favorite shoe … i do have some Torins that I use and Escalante and the racers but LP5 -- my fav!
what would really help me would be the actual measurements of the insole, both length and widest part ... it would choosing the right pair so much easier
I thought the LP4.0 was perfect, but the midsole bottomed out quickly. The LP4.5 was too narrow, but the LP5.0, even the regular width, had too much volume. Maybe I am just picky, have you heard the same? Hope the LP6 fits like the LP4.0.
Hey Steve, David from Munich here. Thanks for another great review. Question: When will you review the Asics Glideride 3? Is it available soon? Thanks!
Question for Run Moore: I'm a midwest winter trail hiker (not a runner). Six pairs of Altra Lone Peak Low NeoShell with Polartec lining, kept my feet warm and dry throughout many winteres but the polartec lining seems discontinued, replaced with vents for water drainage. Is Altra making anything without vents that will keep my tootsies warm in the winter ??
The main difference between the men's and women's is the sizes and width. The width of a standards men's shoe is equivalent to a wide women's shoe. There is also a 1.5 size difference between men's and women's shoes, meaning that a women's size 10 is equivalent to a men's size 8.5.
i tried on the LP5 yesterday. much better fit than the 4. spacious, nice forefoot width. i would be able to size down a half size in the 5, probably gonna pick up all weather mids for the snow. otherwise i am mostly rocking superiors these days (like 6 pairs). am going to try some sauconys. excellent videos btw. namaste
I’d be interested how you got on with the Mid in snow…. I’ve just sent back my second pair as they leaked in toe box. Altra say it sounds like a production defect.
@@DartmoorPaul We have had great customer feedback on their ability to keep feet dry, so that is a bummer to hear. Hopefully, Altra can set you up with another pair.
@@DartmoorPaul i actually need take back my statement about downsizing. i ordered a half size down, what i've worn in superior 4's and solstice runner, and was about to head up a snowy mountain in them the other day but decided against it, returned them, might try my normal size but idk. when your feet are flexing and curling a lot dealing with an unstable punchy snow surface i've found having some extra room in the shoe is better. im using superior 4.5's and topos in the snow for now because these are the widest and most stable. wool socks, a plastic bag duct taped at the ankle if it's really cold, and long snowproof gaiters. i wouldn't have expected LP AW's to be completely waterproof for long, especially if the fit was tight. creasing or stretching like a running shoe undergoes, or maybe even moreso a hiking shoe, will quickly damage most waterproof membranes i still want to try them but for now i am really digging the width, comfort, suppleness, and stability of superior 4.5's in snow. i didn't like sup 4.5's at first, thought they were too boaty lol. again im talking about conditions where your toes are curling for grip and where the snow is somewhat unconsolidated and you're punching through and rolling around a bit anyway try wool + plastic bag + gaiter with your most stable below-the-ankle shoe this concludes my novella. sorry for the rant
@@maxwright4387 cheers! I had superior 3.5s and loved them, but I think I would even love them more with an ego sole! For now I’m really happy with my LPs & after watching Steve’s video on the LP5 SE I bought a pair 🙂
@@barondavis5692 I feel your pain. For me, Saucony Triumph's seem to be the best fit... most comfortable, and last at least 9 months before I have to throw them into the 'cottage pile'... lol.
Nice job with this overview of the new Lone Peak. Last year I finally decided to look at Altra shoes. The biggest holdup for me was the price of shoes like this. I checked out a bunch of different brands and models. Finally, I ended up with a pair of Altra Olympus. It took a while, because I had a hard time finding a store that actually had them to try on. I didn't want to settle on another model without feeling the Olympus too. Finally, I walked in to one of our local Lehigh Valley stores and they had several. I really like a shoe to feel wide. The Altras did the trick. The only problem is that I want to wear them all the time, not just on the trail. Now, I want to find a shoe that feels like an Altra that I can wear for casual use. Any thoughts about that? Thanks again for a great review....
Thank you for checking out the review. You're in luck because Altra has a whole line of road shoes as well as casual shoes. One of their top road models that is very close to the Olympus is the Paradigm 6. They also do have a more casual shoe line but we are not as familiar with those models. Hope this helps!
Another great shoe review, Steve. Love my Altras and currently have the LP5 SE after watching your video! 🙂 Now I’m getting confused, in future if i want a shoe that fits the same as this one which fit do I look for; original, slim?
These look great. I'd really like to see Altra come out with a stability trail shoe, like with the guide rail. I always end up injuring my posterior tibial tendon if I try to run in the Lone Peak.
@@kylenorthrop8735 The Olympus does prevent quite a bit of pronation just because it is a very stiff and structured shoe, but it does not actively correct gait.
@@RunMoore is there any company that makes a trail shoe that is comparable to the altra paradigm? Just found your channel and gotta say I’m impressed, do you ship out of state?
Very good content. Charismatic gent, and fantastic channel. - Quick Question coming from an all time road runner, trying to deep dive into trails... can I wear this shoe in pavement roads for like 5-6 miles ? or will my shins start aching after the run ?
Running that long of a distance in the lone peaks would likely cause some discomfort. The bottom has deep indentations on the outsole and there is a stone guard in the mid-sole. This combo makes the shoe not ideal for pavement.
How is the outside sole? Same thing? Does it feel more durable than the 5's? I find aggressive trails really annihilate the lugs in under 200 miles on my 5's currently and sometimes slippy with leaves and rocks.
Thanks for this amazing video, I'm like on the verge of buying these shoes, but I'm a bit hesitant. Ive worn the Saucony Peregrine recently, which have a 4mm offset, and I'm still not sure if I could handle the Altra shoes. My trainer told me that it would take time but he's sure I would be able to handle them. So, it's either these beautiful shoes or the Topo MTN Racer 2. Thanks again!
The difference between 4mm and a zero drop shoe is not much of a transition, it typically takes only a couple runs to adjust (if you notice a difference at all). If you were transitioning from 10-12mm drop I would say be gradual, but you are already in a low drop shoe. Personally, when I switched from Saucony Kinvara (4mm) to Altra Escalante (0 drop), I didn't get any soreness in my calves/achilles at all.
@@deepwapiti The Lone Peaks are popular for backpacking but have less cushion than the Timp, so if you are used to that cushion level make sure you can handle going down.
Great review...thanks! Trying to decide between the Lone Peak 6, the Dynafit Ultra 100 and the Hoka One One Speedgoat 4. I had the 2.5 many, many years ago and really liked it. I'm training for a number of ultra races and so need something rugged but also with enough cushion, but not too much. I've tended to stay away from Hoka as it seems "too padded" where I'd felt like I was always on the edge of turning my ankle from it sitting up higher. Locally I can only try on the Hokas, but might be passing down your way in the next week. Do you have the 6's in stock yet? Thanks!
How are these shoes for overpronation/flat feet? I have pretty severe flat feet and looking for a rugged everyday shoe for walk, run, play, and daily life. Had Provision 5's, and they tore and wore out quite easily, but the overall function of the shoe was great. Would love to know how well it keeps the foot stabilized, etc. I'd appreciate any input on this. Thank you!
I have been a user of Altra Lone Peak 5 for trail running and hiking. They were fine to use on the Maryland sections of the Appalachian Trail. But after doing the first 60 miles of the PA AT, NOBO, I found the soles of my feet sore from the rocks. What other trail shoe or boot might you suggest for me as I try to cover the rest of the PA AT this summer? I want to avoid the heavy hiking boot and stay under $150.
Tired of Altra's material durability and build quality, I've switched to Topo Athletic. I haven't logged many miles yet on my Ultraventure Pros, but I'm impressed with them out of the box.
Guys, how is the durability of these? I have 2 pairs of loan peaks 4's and both of them produced a hole next to the bend in my big finger... After about 50 km each... Still loved them and running with holes that are now through all the layers and 3 cm long. Just wondering how the new mesh withstands the pounding
We know several people who run on the roads with these and are pleased with their performance. The only caveat is running on the road definitely wears down the lugs on the bottom so they lose trail traction relatively quickly compared to if you use them on trails.
@@RunMoore Just bought a pair of Olympus, as my LP is too thin for my aging feet. However the Olympus is so voluminous/wide that when being side by side with my LP of the same size, it seems much wider. My feet are swimming in O while being just snug enough in LP. Trying half size smaller is way too small. What can I do to fit in Olympus better?
Is there an altra shoe that comes in the original fit for road running thats not max cushioned like the Olympus? Or are lone peaks good for both trails and roads?
how does the LP6 width compare to the LP5 width then? if the 6 is now branded as an OG fit, can I take it that it is wider than the regular 5 shoe was? thanks
You just earned my business, pre ordered mine!! Im a little nervous on the size but im assuming if its unbearable I can exchange for a half size smaller in a reasonable amount of time?
@@RunMoore These are incredible, the massive snowstorms delayed the shipping until today which was still faster considering I was under the impression they werent even released yet. The size seems right, my foots between 11.5-12 so my shoe sizes vary by brand. Im sorry I cant compare to any previous Altra shoes but the fit comfortably, a tiny bit loose which is what I want. I wont be doing 25's in these.
Does anyone here have Altras that has lasted for more than 300 - 400 miles (hiking)? Just curious as I want to use them (love the shoes) for a planned hike of over 300 miles.
Hi guys. I have a question and i'm hoping you will be able to help me out. I have 2 pairs of Altra Lone Peak 6 in size 13 and they are great, good fit and all that. I wanted to try a wide version of Lone Peak 6. Will i go for size 12.5 i wide? I watched Steve's review of Lone Peak 7 and he said that wide version of Lone Peak 7 is a bit longer than standard version and he sugested to go half size down. Does this apply to Lone Peak 6? I'm looking for a pair on amazon and biggest size in wide is 12.5. Any advise will be appreciated. Kind regards. Bart.
I am trying to figure out which shoes to buy as my next trail shoe for training and ultras. I have been running in the Nike Pegasus 36 Trail for around 400 miles and it is time for something new. Any recommendations of a more "trail" shoe with a similar feel?
The Lone Peak has easily been one of the most popular trail shoes for a while and is a great option. Some others to check out would be the Brooks Cascadia or the Altra Superior. Hope this helps.
These sounds like great shoes. Do you have to go easy when you start wearing zero drop trainers? I have 100K coastal walk coming up and would like to try out these trainers.
When switching to zero-drop from a traditional 8-12mm drop shoe, we recommend doing a short first exercise in them and building up over the course of the week. Typically people feel a little soreness in their calves from the stretching in the back of the leg for the first few runs, but this is a normal adjustment.
Trying to decide on Altra Loan Peak 6 or Brooks cascadia 16………………….I need a bit of a high arch, and I also need an ok sized toe box due to an old big toe joint injury………….trail hiking………what do you think?
As Brooks shoes are notoriously narrow, I think you would be better off in the Lone Peaks space-wise. Altras are great for those of us with high arches, and we have had great feedback from high-arched people on the Lone Peak.
@@RunMoore I think they make a EE in that Brooks shoe but idk, wish I had a way to try them on………….one store here has the Brooks, of course never a size 13, and nobody here I can find carys Altra, lame.
We will have the gray/blue, orangish/yellow, and black red should come first. We will have them hopefully by the end of December. The dusty olive should be in early January.
Any chance you could better explain the box lacing. I find that on very long hikes (after a few weeks) my feet tend to swell a bit and the top to bottom volume of the shoe isn't enough any more.
Box lacing involves relacing your shoes and at the middle hole, or wherever your foot pain is, you can either skip that set of holes or run the laces through the same side instead of crossing over to the other side. Here is a link to an image of the technique: www.today.com/style/how-lace-sneakers-high-arches-wide-feet-toe-pain-more-t112110
I've been using the Lone Peak 5's Wide for almost a year now. I've noticed that after a 6+ mile hike, the bottom of my feet would hurt and calves are sore the next day. Do you know if the Lone Peak 6 will alleviate either one of these? Or at least have more cushion so that my feet doesn't hurt so much after a long hike. Or if you can recommend another Altra shoe that would resolve my foot issue.
If you are having foot and calf pain after long hikes, then it is possible that you are not getting adequate stability from the lone peak. I would recommend trying an insole with some additional arch support. All trail shoes are neutral, however, the Altra Olympus has more structure and cushion than the lone peaks. Therefore, it provides more stability than the Lone Peak and could help to alleviate foot and calf pain!
@@RunMoore thanks . Im from germany and have size 8.5 in my regular shoes. I dont have running shoes . I bought altra lonepeak 5s last year in size 9.5 since every german online store says "we recommend buying one size bigger" they did fit but felt sloppy on Technical terrain In Iceland Mountains especially decending steep . I Fell twice because they felt "loose" . Now i ordered lone peak 6s in my normal size but a german RUclipsr said about altras getting 1 or 1 1/2 size bigger but he was talking altra lone peak 4s... I just hope i dont have to send em back. Tbh i bought these in women Version size 9.5 us is my eu size 41 they grey White greens , i have kinda narrow feet so i hope they will fit . For Laugavegur Thru Hike in Iceland the 5s ine size bigger were ok just Not when i hiked steep Mountains
@@rodrev_hiking6757 I am not sure of the differences in german sizing, like if it is similar to UK sizing where it is a whole size different than US sizing. I wish I could be more help, but my best advice is to check if there are any conversions and order it in your usual size
It will not be very comfortable because of the stone guard and the high lugs on the outsole. It is possible, but it is definitely not designed for road running!
I hope they come out with extra wide!!! Lol... My pinky sticks out... I need the wide pinky width!! Extra Wide! Especially in a snow proof or waterproof shoe where it doesn't stretch on the toe area like the escalante.
The Altras changed my life, after backpacking for 30 years. I wear a pair even at regular life.
Thanks for watching, I am glad you love your Altras!
I use their Timp series at work where I work on a mix of outdoor and industrial surfaces, and the Lone Peaks when hiking.
I switched last year to the Lone Peak 5 from hiking boots. It makes hiking so much better. Granted, there are times when you need boots, but most of the time, I used my Altras. I absolutely love them.
@@JefferyPhillips Glad to hear that you are loving your Lone Peaks!
are the Altras good for long-distance backpacking? I'm going on a trip this year where we'll be doing around 10 miles a day for 2 weeks, and I'm trying to decide on trail runners or hiking boots.
I'm an ultra runner and I've done 100 mile races in each of the last 3 lone peak models, The last model did feel a little clumsy but I really like the direction they're going in with the different widths. It would be nice to see them do that with the superior🤔 this was a very thorough video thank you so much, you did a great job👍
Thanks for watching, good luck in your next race!
Just received my LP6 in brown or “gold” as my wife called them 😱 Straight out of box and on a hike & they are just the best. As comfortable, if not more than my 5 SEs. Love them❤️
how's the sizing?
I just converted into altras this year and have been loving it. I have never felt better! But please, please, for the love of God, can we please get an outsole that grips. It grips fine on dry terrain, but when things get wet, even morning dew, it can get flat out dangerous. What's worse is that it grips sometimes and not others, creating a real lack of confidence. And second guessing steps as you move through terrain. You'll hear people say, just get the Olympus, but I don't want the Olympus. I love my altras, but if I'm going out and it's supposed to rain or if I know I'm going to get wet, I go in one of my Saucony's, because they rotate the earth below your feet on EVERYTHING!
They need to quit stuntin' and bring back the Vibram
You may just have to wait for the Mont Blanc in March with the new Vibram grip.
@@iakona23 that's still WAY too much shoe for what I want for everyday. And I'm not going to want to spend as much as I think the MSRP will be.
@@str8up50 even if it's not vibram specifically. You can make your own rubber compound that grips. As much as I don't like Salomon shoes, they do grip very well. And before I started in altras, my beloved Saucony mad rivers (and peregrine's for that matter) have so much grip, you can't wrap your mind around how it does what it does. Mad river is (or was) $110, peregrine $120 both shoes grip circles around Altra. They should be embarrassed. I still rely on my Saucony's in the weather quite a bit. They are just so reliable and predictable. Not to mention I have a TON of miles on my mad rivers and they still feel better than ever.
@@robertmorano2372 $185 I think. $220 for the bolo version, maybe.
Superior will always be my favorite shoe from Altra as they fit my foot like a glove. LP more of a high volume kind of shoe but that new shoe lacing system got me interested
It is always fun to switch it up every once in a while! Thanks for watching!
@@RunMoore If only Altra offer 2 version of Superior? One is the usual for hard/soft/rocky dry terrain. One has the lugs for gnarly muddy wet trail. Now that would be enough for me.
@@ririemarilyn try king mt 2. luggier, grippier, and more minimal than superior, with similar fit, lower volume. very impressive on e.g. wet rock
Yup I had one. I did a the first half of 100km race with it. 60KM or so.. Great traction and stability.. not so much on the cushion tho (well they are not design for that distance)
Good job describing and discussing the shoe without sounding like a shoe salesman. Love the Lone Peak, own the 4.5 and 5.
Thanks for watching!
My first Altras were the Lone Peak 5. I wear a 10.5 in EE, these shoes feel like they were made for me. Easily the best shoe I've ever worn in my life. I bought the 6 a few weeks ago and just did an 8k race with them in some hybrid conditions (ie. not road). They felt fantastic. I love the added ventilation. Fit really is identical (for me) to the LP 5.
They are quite similar, much to the relief of the Lone Peak 5 fans!
Looks like the biggest change is the extra drainage and the reinforced sides at the front. Looks good, wish the color choices were better.
Wow, thank you!!…this was so informative…I recently went on a hike and along the way everyone was talking about ALTRA lone Peaks ..I never heard of it🙈)..I have wide feet and decided to get my 1st pair of trail shoes..absolutely the BEST decision I made👏🙌😃
Hi. Glad to see and support a video from the Motherland (my birthplace, Maryland). Brand spankin' new to the Lone Peak world and the "clown shoe" shape. I just bought a pair of these babies and I have an incessant worry: will the large toe box/clown shoe trip me up? I had a knee injury that completely stopped my from trail running. I have a longing to return to some light and intermittent trail running alongside hiking. I fear (big time) that I will trip and fall and, subsequently, re-injure my knee. Have you ever tripped because of the wide and weird toe box? Heard stories of this? I want to be brave but careful.
Cheers to the wide width options!
Agreed, good to see Altra is listening to customers' feedback!
Agree, but wish they have all models in wide fit, or at least in OG fit...so pity to see they ruined timp by calling them standard , ie narrow... i wish they have it like version 1 or 1.5...
@@slavasss2189 I wanted to try the Timp too, but now it looks like that won’t happen. I originally started with the OG Lone Peak and Olympus. I probably can’t fit into the new Olympus unless they make it in a wide.
Wow, never thought I'd find a review as detailed as this! I'm planning to buy a pair of these for longer events (24hr/100k) and this review really helps. Have lots of Salomon and Asics shoes but in the years I've been buying Salomon shoes the fit and quality seems to have declined a bit so have been looking for alternatives like Hoka and now Altra. Thanks.
Glad we could help, thanks for watching!
Love my Altras but I find the superior to be the best for me (not as bulky and more feel than than the Lone Peak). I like that Altra has gone narrower with their more recent models. They still have the wide toe box, but have a more secured fit which helps a ton when running technical trails with sharp turns. Good review though, these look better and less bulky than previous Lone Peak versions - would consider as a hiking/all around shoe.
The Lone Peak 6 is great and definitely worth checking out but the Superior is also a fan favorite in store!
I just bought a pair of Lone Peak 6 to hike the Camino de Santiago in August/September this year. Thank you for this review!
Thanks for watching, good luck with your hike!
I am loving my Lone Peak 4s! Will definitely look at getting these once mine are worn out. Thanks for the review!
Glad to hear you're happy with the LP line :) and thank you very much for watching!
That Superior looks to have a considerably wider tie box than the LP 6, no?
I don't run. Only when I have to. Lol.
I just got the LP6 wide in 9.5. I hike, hunt, walk, just not run.
So, my kids as a surprise got me some LP5 in 9.5. So I will have both models. If they fit I will keep both for my daily use and hiking.
With flat wide feet I struggle finding shoes/boots that fit. Having worn combat boots for 20+ years daily, I m looking forward to these shoes.
Your review was great and helped me find these shoes. I struggle with the price. But my foot doctor convinced me to look at premium shoes (he uses Altras). I have Achilles Bursitis, and working on preventing it's flare-up.
Again, thank you for the review.
Note: I have worn Bedrock sandals for hiking for three years, I was looking for zero drops.
So glad they are working well for you!
Ive been training on my LP5 on roads noT trails . The roads have been wet and slippery- they do the job. I got me 2 pairs of the LP5 -- LOVE them.. knowing the sucker that I’ am will be buying the LP6 too only because they are my favorite shoe … i do have some Torins that I use and Escalante and the racers but LP5 -- my fav!
It's a great shoe, thanks for watching!
Great seeing yall today and grabbing a new pair 👊
Thanks for coming by!
Great review but, let me know if the toe guard stays glued
Really struggled with the midsole on the LP 5 and would totally be stoked if it didn't in the 6. I wear Superior's loyally. They fit incredibly.
The Superior is a great shoe! Thanks for watching
Same. They were rock hard after 200km. The 4s were great.
Awesome review. These are on sale now so I’m buying them.
what would really help me would be the actual measurements of the insole, both length and widest part ... it would choosing the right pair so much easier
We will keep that in mind for our next videos, thanks for watching!
@@RunMoore oh no no. Non lo farete mai! Non amate la SEMPLICITA' ...
My Lone Peak 4s are still going pretty strong, but might need to get these! Thanks for the great rundown.
Thanks for watching!
I thought the LP4.0 was perfect, but the midsole bottomed out quickly. The LP4.5 was too narrow, but the LP5.0, even the regular width, had too much volume. Maybe I am just picky, have you heard the same? Hope the LP6 fits like the LP4.0.
We have heard complaints about the varying widths of the Lone Peak iterations. The new Lone Peak will be very similar in width to the 5.
Hey Steve, David from Munich here. Thanks for another great review. Question: When will you review the Asics Glideride 3? Is it available soon? Thanks!
These reviews are great. Thanks for putting them up!
Thank you for watching our reviews!
Thanks Steve. Can you do a short vid of an alternate lacing to alleviate some pressure?
We will look into doing that. Thanks for making the suggestion.
I hope they have them in RSM, somewhat obsessed with my LP 4's and need a good waterproof shoe for these Wisconsin winters
Thanks for a great review! Look forward to more in the future.
Thanks for checking out the channel!
Can you please give me more info on the boxing of laces! Would love a little more room!!!
Question for Run Moore: I'm a midwest winter trail hiker (not a runner). Six pairs of Altra Lone Peak Low NeoShell with Polartec lining, kept my feet warm and dry throughout many winteres but the polartec lining seems discontinued, replaced with vents for water drainage. Is Altra making anything without vents that will keep my tootsies warm in the winter ??
Appreciate your channel! I use the Lone Peak 5 for rucking; solid kicks
Thanks for watching!
Hi. Thanks for the review. May I ask, what's the difference between a men's and woman's shoe?
The main difference between the men's and women's is the sizes and width. The width of a standards men's shoe is equivalent to a wide women's shoe. There is also a 1.5 size difference between men's and women's shoes, meaning that a women's size 10 is equivalent to a men's size 8.5.
i tried on the LP5 yesterday. much better fit than the 4. spacious, nice forefoot width. i would be able to size down a half size in the 5, probably gonna pick up all weather mids for the snow. otherwise i am mostly rocking superiors these days (like 6 pairs). am going to try some sauconys. excellent videos btw. namaste
Thanks for watching!
I’d be interested how you got on with the Mid in snow…. I’ve just sent back my second pair as they leaked in toe box. Altra say it sounds like a production defect.
@@DartmoorPaul We have had great customer feedback on their ability to keep feet dry, so that is a bummer to hear. Hopefully, Altra can set you up with another pair.
@@DartmoorPaul i actually need take back my statement about downsizing. i ordered a half size down, what i've worn in superior 4's and solstice runner, and was about to head up a snowy mountain in them the other day but decided against it, returned them, might try my normal size but idk. when your feet are flexing and curling a lot dealing with an unstable punchy snow surface i've found having some extra room in the shoe is better. im using superior 4.5's and topos in the snow for now because these are the widest and most stable. wool socks, a plastic bag duct taped at the ankle if it's really cold, and long snowproof gaiters.
i wouldn't have expected LP AW's to be completely waterproof for long, especially if the fit was tight. creasing or stretching like a running shoe undergoes, or maybe even moreso a hiking shoe, will quickly damage most waterproof membranes
i still want to try them but for now i am really digging the width, comfort, suppleness, and stability of superior 4.5's in snow. i didn't like sup 4.5's at first, thought they were too boaty lol.
again im talking about conditions where your toes are curling for grip and where the snow is somewhat unconsolidated and you're punching through and rolling around a bit
anyway try wool + plastic bag + gaiter with your most stable below-the-ankle shoe
this concludes my novella. sorry for the rant
@@maxwright4387 cheers! I had superior 3.5s and loved them, but I think I would even love them more with an ego sole! For now I’m really happy with my LPs & after watching Steve’s video on the LP5 SE I bought a pair 🙂
IMO these are the best LPs so far
Very well done review, thank you. I may be getting back on the Altra LP train after leaving with the 4.5s. :)
That's a great idea. Thanks for watching!
I really wish I could get back into Altra's, but after having several pair's of their shoes fall apart on me, I just can''t go down that road again.
I too think they fall apart quickly, but I can’t find another shoe/boot that has a normal toe box and low drop. Ugh
@@barondavis5692 I feel your pain. For me, Saucony Triumph's seem to be the best fit... most comfortable, and last at least 9 months before I have to throw them into the 'cottage pile'... lol.
Nice job with this overview of the new Lone Peak. Last year I finally decided to look at Altra shoes. The biggest holdup for me was the price of shoes like this. I checked out a bunch of different brands and models. Finally, I ended up with a pair of Altra Olympus. It took a while, because I had a hard time finding a store that actually had them to try on. I didn't want to settle on another model without feeling the Olympus too. Finally, I walked in to one of our local Lehigh Valley stores and they had several. I really like a shoe to feel wide. The Altras did the trick. The only problem is that I want to wear them all the time, not just on the trail. Now, I want to find a shoe that feels like an Altra that I can wear for casual use. Any thoughts about that? Thanks again for a great review....
Thank you for checking out the review. You're in luck because Altra has a whole line of road shoes as well as casual shoes. One of their top road models that is very close to the Olympus is the Paradigm 6. They also do have a more casual shoe line but we are not as familiar with those models. Hope this helps!
I wear a pair of black Escalante 1.5 for casual use. Love them!
@@DartmoorPaul Thanks!
Amazing review! Thanks a lot 🤟🏽
Great review. Thorough and fun!
Thanks for watching!
Another great shoe review, Steve. Love my Altras and currently have the LP5 SE after watching your video! 🙂 Now I’m getting confused, in future if i want a shoe that fits the same as this one which fit do I look for; original, slim?
The Lone Peak 5 SE would be considered the original width.
These look great. I'd really like to see Altra come out with a stability trail shoe, like with the guide rail. I always end up injuring my posterior tibial tendon if I try to run in the Lone Peak.
That's a dandy of a suggestion. They do not have anything like that in the works for 2022 but that would be a nice addition to their lineup.
You could accomplish the same guide rail by sitting inside something like the Olympus.
@@kylenorthrop8735 The Olympus does prevent quite a bit of pronation just because it is a very stiff and structured shoe, but it does not actively correct gait.
@@RunMoore is there any company that makes a trail shoe that is comparable to the altra paradigm? Just found your channel and gotta say I’m impressed, do you ship out of state?
@@tayne1807 Altra makes a trail shoe that is comparable to the paradigm called the Olympus. Yes, we do ship out of state!
Very good content. Charismatic gent, and fantastic channel. - Quick Question coming from an all time road runner, trying to deep dive into trails... can I wear this shoe in pavement roads for like 5-6 miles ? or will my shins start aching after the run ?
Running that long of a distance in the lone peaks would likely cause some discomfort. The bottom has deep indentations on the outsole and there is a stone guard in the mid-sole. This combo makes the shoe not ideal for pavement.
@@RunMoore Very insightful! thank you for your reply. #subscribed
How do you determine what size toe box to get? I would imagine that I need a wide but want to make sure before ordering
How is the outside sole? Same thing? Does it feel more durable than the 5's? I find aggressive trails really annihilate the lugs in under 200 miles on my 5's currently and sometimes slippy with leaves and rocks.
The outsole is still the same. They made some nice changes on the 6 but the outsole seems to be identical to the 5.
@@RunMoore It's not a deal breaker, just on a wishlist of things I wish they'd improve on. Thanks.
Can’t wait for the timp 4 video 😀
Neither can we! :)
Great review of what looks like a great shoe!
Thanks for watching!
Whoa, the 6 already? I’m still loving the 5s. Coming up on 300 trail miles and wearing pretty good. Are the toe caps still stitched on the 6?
They sure are!
@@RunMoore Sweet!
Thanks for this amazing video, I'm like on the verge of buying these shoes, but I'm a bit hesitant. Ive worn the Saucony Peregrine recently, which have a 4mm offset, and I'm still not sure if I could handle the Altra shoes. My trainer told me that it would take time but he's sure I would be able to handle them. So, it's either these beautiful shoes or the Topo MTN Racer 2. Thanks again!
The difference between 4mm and a zero drop shoe is not much of a transition, it typically takes only a couple runs to adjust (if you notice a difference at all). If you were transitioning from 10-12mm drop I would say be gradual, but you are already in a low drop shoe. Personally, when I switched from Saucony Kinvara (4mm) to Altra Escalante (0 drop), I didn't get any soreness in my calves/achilles at all.
@@RunMoore thank you so much. I really appreciate it!
Excellent review. Very helpful and clear. Thank you.
Quick question. I have used Timps for backpacking. Would the Lone Peak 5 or 6 be good for it? 30lb backpack.
@@deepwapiti The Lone Peaks are popular for backpacking but have less cushion than the Timp, so if you are used to that cushion level make sure you can handle going down.
Tried these for a week after wearing the Rivera’s for two years. I tried to like them but it hurts me for some reason
Great review...thanks! Trying to decide between the Lone Peak 6, the Dynafit Ultra 100 and the Hoka One One Speedgoat 4. I had the 2.5 many, many years ago and really liked it. I'm training for a number of ultra races and so need something rugged but also with enough cushion, but not too much. I've tended to stay away from Hoka as it seems "too padded" where I'd felt like I was always on the edge of turning my ankle from it sitting up higher. Locally I can only try on the Hokas, but might be passing down your way in the next week. Do you have the 6's in stock yet?
Thanks!
Hey there thanks for checking out the review we do have Lone Peak 6 in stock so if you find yourself in the area please stop by!
speed goat 5 coming out soon too
Hey Steve, any idea when the Timp 4 will be released? I'm nervous for how different it will be. I loved the 2 and 3 and it looks completely new!
I have a pair of the Timp 4's now! They are sweet and we'll have a review iup in next few weeks on them. They are due out in March!
@@RunMoore thanks Steve! I cant wait to see the review!!
Run Moore Is the 4 similar fit to the 3-4 or 1.5. The 1.5 was a great fit, but not the 3-4.
@@barondavis5692 it fits better than 4 don't quite remember the fit of the 1.5. Would say that the 6 has been fitting true to size.
Run Moore The 1.5 had that nice roomy toe box like the LP 4.0. The 2-3 was narrow compared to previous models.
Altra Lone Peak 6 vs Salomon Speedcross 5...can't decide!
The Lone Peak is a winner, I recommend trying it out!
How are these shoes for overpronation/flat feet? I have pretty severe flat feet and looking for a rugged everyday shoe for walk, run, play, and daily life. Had Provision 5's, and they tore and wore out quite easily, but the overall function of the shoe was great. Would love to know how well it keeps the foot stabilized, etc. I'd appreciate any input on this. Thank you!
I have been a user of Altra Lone Peak 5 for trail running and hiking. They were fine to use on the Maryland sections of the Appalachian Trail. But after doing the first 60 miles of the PA AT, NOBO, I found the soles of my feet sore from the rocks. What other trail shoe or boot might you suggest for me as I try to cover the rest of the PA AT this summer? I want to avoid the heavy hiking boot and stay under $150.
Altras are the best running shoes around that said I like my $30 Whitins even better
Tired of Altra's material durability and build quality, I've switched to Topo Athletic. I haven't logged many miles yet on my Ultraventure Pros, but I'm impressed with them out of the box.
I've had many quality issues with Topo :(
@@etiennevlok uh oh :(
I too found the Topos great out of the box, but the midsole was done after 200 miles.
Would this be a good shoe for trail during wet conditions?
Heck yeah! While it is not a Vibram outsole this is a very nice and grippy outsole and perfect for wet conditions. It even drains very well.
Guys, how is the durability of these? I have 2 pairs of loan peaks 4's and both of them produced a hole next to the bend in my big finger... After about 50 km each... Still loved them and running with holes that are now through all the layers and 3 cm long. Just wondering how the new mesh withstands the pounding
What is your experience with people using these for road running? Obviously the treads/outsole are specifically designed for dirt, mud, rocks, etc.
We know several people who run on the roads with these and are pleased with their performance. The only caveat is running on the road definitely wears down the lugs on the bottom so they lose trail traction relatively quickly compared to if you use them on trails.
Torin 4.5 got narrowed and the 5 got wider
i think i am going to order it for my swimrun trainings!!
Sounds perfect!
What sock or style do you suggest for Altra? Thanks
I’m still wearing my 3.5’s! 😃❤️
Glad to hear that you are still enjoying your 3.5s! Thanks for watching!
Love my Olympus 4. Whats new for that model.
Timp 3 too narrow.
Lone peak 5 are great. Prefer more cushion and grip.
The Olympus is definitely superior in grip and cushion, glad you are enjoying it!
@@RunMoore Just bought a pair of Olympus, as my LP is too thin for my aging feet. However the Olympus is so voluminous/wide that when being side by side with my LP of the same size, it seems much wider. My feet are swimming in O while being just snug enough in LP. Trying half size smaller is way too small. What can I do to fit in Olympus better?
Not a fan of those new timps. It’d be nice if they could offer an OG version.
That'd be great, thanks for watching!
Is there an altra shoe that comes in the original fit for road running thats not max cushioned like the Olympus? Or are lone peaks good for both trails and roads?
how does the LP6 width compare to the LP5 width then? if the 6 is now branded as an OG fit, can I take it that it is wider than the regular 5 shoe was? thanks
It is just about identical in width to the LP5
You just earned my business, pre ordered mine!! Im a little nervous on the size but im assuming if its unbearable I can exchange for a half size smaller in a reasonable amount of time?
As long as the exchanged size is in stock, yes! WE have found this shoe to run true to size so hopefully, it will all be good.
Would you say the sizing is the same as the LP5?
@@marioperez5666 Sizing feels comparable to the 5s
@@RunMoore These are incredible, the massive snowstorms delayed the shipping until today which was still faster considering I was under the impression they werent even released yet. The size seems right, my foots between 11.5-12 so my shoe sizes vary by brand. Im sorry I cant compare to any previous Altra shoes but the fit comfortably, a tiny bit loose which is what I want. I wont be doing 25's in these.
@@joeleeman9886 They have been released, we have several pairs in stock. If you like a loose fit I recommend the size 12.
Would these be good for out door basketball?
Hey Thanks love it
Hi, do you recommend altra lone peak 6 for someone with flat feet?
And this is why you shop local…you won’t get this kind of info from a REI employee. Great info, dude✋🏼
Does anyone here have Altras that has lasted for more than 300 - 400 miles (hiking)? Just curious as I want to use them (love the shoes) for a planned hike of over 300 miles.
Any news on a new Superior??
Hi guys. I have a question and i'm hoping you will be able to help me out. I have 2 pairs of Altra Lone Peak 6 in size 13 and they are great, good fit and all that. I wanted to try a wide version of Lone Peak 6. Will i go for size 12.5 i wide? I watched Steve's review of Lone Peak 7 and he said that wide version of Lone Peak 7 is a bit longer than standard version and he sugested to go half size down. Does this apply to Lone Peak 6? I'm looking for a pair on amazon and biggest size in wide is 12.5. Any advise will be appreciated. Kind regards. Bart.
I am trying to figure out which shoes to buy as my next trail shoe for training and ultras. I have been running in the Nike Pegasus 36 Trail for around 400 miles and it is time for something new. Any recommendations of a more "trail" shoe with a similar feel?
The Lone Peak has easily been one of the most popular trail shoes for a while and is a great option. Some others to check out would be the Brooks Cascadia or the Altra Superior. Hope this helps.
These sounds like great shoes. Do you have to go easy when you start wearing zero drop trainers? I have 100K coastal walk coming up and would like to try out these trainers.
When switching to zero-drop from a traditional 8-12mm drop shoe, we recommend doing a short first exercise in them and building up over the course of the week. Typically people feel a little soreness in their calves from the stretching in the back of the leg for the first few runs, but this is a normal adjustment.
@@RunMoore Thanks for the reply! Really, you can adjust that quickly? That's good news and thank you for your help!
@@Langeroonie Yes, it is a quick adjustment that is made even quicker with the help of some calf and achilles stretches!
do you have a video on the "boxing" lace technique?
We don't, but there are plenty out there!
@@RunMoore never heard of it before, thought I'd ask. I will search for it. thanks!
Lone Peak MIDS are the perfect shoeboot. Need to grab/strap those ankles, too.
They are terrific!
No LP5.5? Are they doing away this version increment?
yes they are doing away with that numbering system. Still will do small upper updates but not using halfs for names
Yes they have started using whole number increments again!
What size to order based on Brannock size?
Trying to decide on Altra Loan Peak 6 or Brooks cascadia 16………………….I need a bit of a high arch, and I also need an ok sized toe box due to an old big toe joint injury………….trail hiking………what do you think?
As Brooks shoes are notoriously narrow, I think you would be better off in the Lone Peaks space-wise. Altras are great for those of us with high arches, and we have had great feedback from high-arched people on the Lone Peak.
@@RunMoore I think they make a EE in that Brooks shoe but idk, wish I had a way to try them on………….one store here has the Brooks, of course never a size 13, and nobody here I can find carys Altra, lame.
@@jdssurf Yes, they do make the Cascadia in wide, but even wide Brooks can sometimes end up more narrow than the wider Altra models.
Will the LP6 come in an all-weather version? There was an LP5 all-weather although some people complained that it was narrow.
Yes, it will be made in an all-weather version. We don't know yet about the width compared to the LP5.
Do these dry as fast as arcteryx norvan sl3?
Find can feel the sharp rocks in LP 5s compared to my old timp 1s and hoka speedgoat 4s
That’s easy to assume when you compare them to the Speedgoat’s. Apples to oranges comparison.
Find can feel the sharp rocks LP5s and 6s compared to my old Lp 3.5s as well
Do you have any info on what colors gonna be realesed in the first drop ? Seen so many different colors atm
We will have the gray/blue, orangish/yellow, and black red should come first. We will have them hopefully by the end of December. The dusty olive should be in early January.
Any chance you could better explain the box lacing. I find that on very long hikes (after a few weeks) my feet tend to swell a bit and the top to bottom volume of the shoe isn't enough any more.
Box lacing involves relacing your shoes and at the middle hole, or wherever your foot pain is, you can either skip that set of holes or run the laces through the same side instead of crossing over to the other side. Here is a link to an image of the technique: www.today.com/style/how-lace-sneakers-high-arches-wide-feet-toe-pain-more-t112110
I've been using the Lone Peak 5's Wide for almost a year now. I've noticed that after a 6+ mile hike, the bottom of my feet would hurt and calves are sore the next day. Do you know if the Lone Peak 6 will alleviate either one of these? Or at least have more cushion so that my feet doesn't hurt so much after a long hike. Or if you can recommend another Altra shoe that would resolve my foot issue.
If you are having foot and calf pain after long hikes, then it is possible that you are not getting adequate stability from the lone peak. I would recommend trying an insole with some additional arch support. All trail shoes are neutral, however, the Altra Olympus has more structure and cushion than the lone peaks. Therefore, it provides more stability than the Lone Peak and could help to alleviate foot and calf pain!
is there a GTX version ?
Would you recommend getting them in your regular size or one size bigger ?
The Lone Peak definitely runs true to size, so the same size you order typical running shoes in
@@RunMoore thanks . Im from germany and have size 8.5 in my regular shoes. I dont have running shoes . I bought altra lonepeak 5s last year in size 9.5 since every german online store says "we recommend buying one size bigger" they did fit but felt sloppy on Technical terrain In Iceland Mountains especially decending steep . I Fell twice because they felt "loose" . Now i ordered lone peak 6s in my normal size but a german RUclipsr said about altras getting 1 or 1 1/2 size bigger but he was talking altra lone peak 4s...
I just hope i dont have to send em back. Tbh i bought these in women Version size 9.5 us is my eu size 41 they grey White greens , i have kinda narrow feet so i hope they will fit .
For Laugavegur Thru Hike in Iceland the 5s ine size bigger were ok just Not when i hiked steep Mountains
@@rodrev_hiking6757 I am not sure of the differences in german sizing, like if it is similar to UK sizing where it is a whole size different than US sizing. I wish I could be more help, but my best advice is to check if there are any conversions and order it in your usual size
what's the width of the men's wide?
I have the LP5. The heel cup is a little mushy for me as it goes around my heel and to my ankle. Is the 6 more sturdy?
Thanks for watching! the soles on the LP5 and 6 have a similar feel so it is likely that the LP6 will also feel mushy.
Can you also road run in the Lone Peak 6? Thanks!
It will not be very comfortable because of the stone guard and the high lugs on the outsole. It is possible, but it is definitely not designed for road running!
I hope they come out with extra wide!!! Lol... My pinky sticks out... I need the wide pinky width!! Extra Wide! Especially in a snow proof or waterproof shoe where it doesn't stretch on the toe area like the escalante.
The Lone Peak 6 will be available in wide and standard width! Thanks for watching!
When is the Timp 4 video going to drop?
We will try to put it up in mid-January!
Is there also a new lone peak all-weather version?
Yes, there will be!
We getting the HIIT back? Been looking to replace mine for over a year now.
Unfortunately, we have not seen any new versions or comparable models to the HIIT