My favorite choral piece ever. We sang this at the Kansas State Choir performance in 1981, and we hit the Sancta Maria line hard, not pausing. The Director was like, wait, no, OK, that was awesome. Carry on... I will never not start crying hearing this...
I sang this in high school chorale...and JUST now was able to find this particular arrangement...if you ask me it's the prettiest version of ave maria out there. Harmonies are just INCREDIBLE!
Good, precise, and inspiring performance. Of course I know (and see here) many sqareheaded technicians, often back-seat-drivers, who would find imperfections. I think both - the piece and the performance - are just INSPIRED and inspiring. Thanx a lot for posting. I just played this to my little vocal ensemble to make them INSPIRED. It worked. Regards!
Two words, vocal orgasm!! The Camarata Singers at my university performed this last year for our annual holiday dinner, hopefully i'll get to sing it with them next year. :D
Me too! I'm singing it with my high school's select choir which has twenty two students that ranges from freshman to seniors. This piece might be my favorite choral piece! :)
It's notated correctly as a B dim7 chord (not Ab). Even though a dim7 chord is symmetrical, it is built on B because of its clear leading tone function, as it resolves back to C.
@ThaSchwab Harmony and counterpoint work together. Harmonically, you could claim that the first "chord" in the measure at 0:37 functions in C major as ii (or in a minor as iv). But here I think it's more important how Bruckner accomplishes this contrapuntally, carrying over the double suspension from the previous measure. We may "see" the harmony functioning in a certain tonal way, but we hear it as an old-school Renaissance suspension.
@ecp2014 I see the beginning of the bar as a different chord all together (like the downbeat of the second measure in the beginning). It could be a suspension, but I just don't see it. It would be more obvious if Bruckner included a bass note (ex., a bass note in the second measure of the beginning would make the chords go I-IV-I).
Sorry, this came up once before. I was actually talking about the measure after what you are talking about, on the word "fructus," when the C and E are suspended over the D and F.
Sorry, a lot of people have thought I was talking about that measure with the C in the bass. I'm talking about the following measure on "fructus," E and C suspended over F and D.
4th species counterpoint creates the "suspension" here. The notes cannot be tied because of the text. Even nicer is the Ab dim7 chord over the pedal C in the previous measure.
About the "line": Well, Bruckner was the first composer who obviously wasn't caring about harmony (which doesn't mean he was against it, he just had his own idea of harmony). This is probably what you miss when you listen to this after listening to a Bach. About the motion: Bruckner was a man driven by destiny. He was full of emotions, because of his life being full of a whole lot of big downs & little ups, and so is his music. There hardly is a composer who is writing even more dramatically.
I loved the piece and the performance BUT was glad to that others too felt some singers may be singing flat. My son and father have perfect pitch, but I've been dubious about my own relative pitch even though I'm a musician. However, I could physically feel the beating that occurs when singers are slightly out of phase with each other, even on my $20 radio. I'm for wabi sabi, enjoying a tiny bit of imperfection in the human artistic performance, But I'm glad to have my listening chops affirmed. I don't have a problem with others who say a piece of music leaves them flat--that's personal taste, not a critical analysis. Vanilla ice cream disappoints me...have never enjoyed even chef-made versions. Yet vanilla is the most popular flavor. (I'm an iconoclast; I like candy corn, fruitcake, foods left untranslated on menus and baroque and modern composers. But that's based on personal associations and emotional response.)
@ThaSchwab Why don't you think it is a suspension? The E and C in the tenor are held over from the previous bar while the bass moves to D and F. Is it because they aren't tied across the bar? (Suspensions do not have to be tied.)
Generally a beautiful sound!!! Thank you - could use about another 14 second basses to balance in the fortissimo passages - it tended to lean to the right a bit! :) Nevertheless very enjoyable
@RumoAoSul Whoa there. I know what music is. I compose music, usually choral actually. I've toured Europe singing some of the most beautiful pieces on the planet in some of the most beautiful churches you could imagine. What I stated was my opinion. I didn't say this piece is bad and that no one should or could ever like it. "IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME."
whoa everyone!! matt92091 is a music theory student!! wow!! AND he's an internet critic!! double-wow!! geez, how DOES he find the time to both criticize a song on it's RUclips page AND condescend people he's never met in his life??!!! it's just amazing, folks, cause we all know how difficult it is to judge the work of others, almost as hard as it is to write your own music! i'm sure that in a couple hundred years music theory students of the future will have the distinct privilege of complaining about his own lack of compositional excellence and just how little it "works" for them. and in true trail-blazing fashion, these future music disciples can use matt92091's shameless tactic of stating his "opinion" when everyone knows that he's just trying to look smarter than everyone and act like he's better than others who aren't like himself, helping only in perpetuating the stereotype that music schools are filled with high-minded pricks, their heads shoved straight up their asses, that do nothing to truly advance the art of music, and simply wall themselves in with theory rules and regulations and guidelines for art, which of course NEEDS no rules or boundaries, and only recognize true genius long after the artist is dead, proving that they know NOTHING about art, and preach only academics. oh, goodness, excuse me... what i meant to say was, God Bless Anton Bruckner! thanks for the upload!
I love the piece. Buckner was a great composer and this piece shows that. But in my own opinion, the second to last measure could have had a higher chord than the chord before it so the transition into the final chord isn't as similar as the transition into the Fmaj in the fourth to last measure. It is only an opinion of mine, so I apologize to Anton Bruckner for critiquing his work.
That would sound beautiful, Michael! As someone who is currently singing this piece in school, I appreciate reading your comment. That would be a nice transition into the final chord :)
Eden Fritz Aguiar Thank you! I appreciate that you didn't criticize the fact that I thought something in a classical piece should be different. I love this piece! I really hope you guys do it well. Good luck with your musical endeavors!
My favorite choral piece ever. We sang this at the Kansas State Choir performance in 1981, and we hit the Sancta Maria line hard, not pausing. The Director was like, wait, no, OK, that was awesome. Carry on... I will never not start crying hearing this...
As a college student we had the opportunity to sing this in the catacombs at Bruckner's grave. Still the most memorable performance of my life
wow that's incredible
what voice are u? (which one are u singing)?
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The art of combining sounds and pauses should be heard in silence, with eyes closed and open soul. How wonderful!
I sang this in high school chorale...and JUST now was able to find this particular arrangement...if you ask me it's the prettiest version of ave maria out there. Harmonies are just INCREDIBLE!
look up the wiley ave maria by the notre dame liturgical choir, it's haunting
The Amen at the end always leaves me in tears
cant wait to hear the angels sing this....
Excellent choir and Bruckner´s music - it´s heaven sound. Thanks. Greeting from Czech Republic.
Mendelssohn dopo 65 anni di musica sacra grazie a voi scopro una Ave Maria di questo grande musico. Grandioso come sempre.
Beautiful. One of my favorites.
Bruh...
Anton Bruckner will always be my favorite :)
Linda, muito expressiva!Bruckner é demais!
oooh i sang this with my choir last week for our christmas concert in the organ loft
ooh i just love this piece
Good, precise, and inspiring performance. Of course I know (and see here) many sqareheaded technicians, often back-seat-drivers, who would find imperfections. I think both - the piece and the performance - are just INSPIRED and inspiring. Thanx a lot for posting. I just played this to my little vocal ensemble to make them INSPIRED. It worked. Regards!
Que pieza tan bella, Bruckner es lo mejor.
Como pode algo tão extraordinariamente lindo???
just BEAUTIFUL
Two words, vocal orgasm!! The Camarata Singers at my university performed this last year for our annual holiday dinner, hopefully i'll get to sing it with them next year. :D
Beautiful!
!!!!Que bonita, me encanta... maravillosa!!!🌿
I'm an Agnostic, but I love this chant!
why should it matter what you are? nobody cares
So beautiful! I like it very much ❤️
Very enjoyable to listen to this piece of music.The soft and forte parts are well done
I'm singing this song with my Choir. I absolutely love singing it :D
Me too! I'm singing it with my high school's select choir which has twenty two students that ranges from freshman to seniors. This piece might be my favorite choral piece! :)
Me too.
it's beautiful! Thank you very much. Very interesting.
Damn I wish I could sing counter tenor at 1:24! That is sheer musical genius in that section!
BELLISIMA!!!!!💝🌿
Bruckner MEANT it! Great music indeed, and so uplifting.
I am a protestant but i love Bruckner music.
Good music rises above religious and cultural barriers.
Very beautiful!
great great harmonization!
This is one of my favorite versions!
Belíssimo. Minha música favorita.
Gotta love the suspension at 0:37 !
I found this by accident, but I'm so glad I did!
Lovely
Lovely!
Stupenda
It's notated correctly as a B dim7 chord (not Ab). Even though a dim7 chord is symmetrical, it is built on B because of its clear leading tone function, as it resolves back to C.
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@ThaSchwab Harmony and counterpoint work together. Harmonically, you could claim that the first "chord" in the measure at 0:37 functions in C major as ii (or in a minor as iv). But here I think it's more important how Bruckner accomplishes this contrapuntally, carrying over the double suspension from the previous measure. We may "see" the harmony functioning in a certain tonal way, but we hear it as an old-school Renaissance suspension.
Final bars...great.
EXQUISITA!!!!!!🍂💥🍂
@ProGamblerCauthon Yes, but I was talking about the following measure, on the word "fructus."
After Schubert, this is the best Ave Maria.
@ecp2014
I see the beginning of the bar as a different chord all together (like the downbeat of the second measure in the beginning). It could be a suspension, but I just don't see it. It would be more obvious if Bruckner included a bass note (ex., a bass note in the second measure of the beginning would make the chords go I-IV-I).
WoW
Sorry, this came up once before. I was actually talking about the measure after what you are talking about, on the word "fructus," when the C and E are suspended over the D and F.
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Sehr schön. Gruß aus Deutschland.
Sorry, a lot of people have thought I was talking about that measure with the C in the bass. I'm talking about the following measure on "fructus," E and C suspended over F and D.
nice
4th species counterpoint creates the "suspension" here. The notes cannot be tied because of the text. Even nicer is the Ab dim7 chord over the pedal C in the previous measure.
About the "line": Well, Bruckner was the first composer who obviously wasn't caring about harmony (which doesn't mean he was against it, he just had his own idea of harmony). This is probably what you miss when you listen to this after listening to a Bach.
About the motion: Bruckner was a man driven by destiny. He was full of emotions, because of his life being full of a whole lot of big downs & little ups, and so is his music. There hardly is a composer who is writing even more dramatically.
I loved the piece and the performance BUT was glad to that others too felt some singers may be singing flat. My son and father have perfect pitch, but I've been dubious about my own relative pitch even though I'm a musician. However, I could physically feel the beating that occurs when singers are slightly out of phase with each other, even on my $20 radio. I'm for wabi sabi, enjoying a tiny bit of imperfection in the human artistic performance, But I'm glad to have my listening chops affirmed.
I don't have a problem with others who say a piece of music leaves them flat--that's personal taste, not a critical analysis. Vanilla ice cream disappoints me...have never enjoyed even chef-made versions. Yet vanilla is the most popular flavor. (I'm an iconoclast; I like candy corn, fruitcake, foods left untranslated on menus and baroque and modern composers. But that's based on personal associations and emotional response.)
Troppo presto.
giggles at ronnies reply to orville :)
To they read music in Londyn.
SUBLIME
Oh my God. I didn't even hear those tenors....how much flatter could they have gone on that C# in measure 16? It was MINOR.
I'm mistaken; the progression I mentioned would be I-VI-I, not I-IV-I.
@ThaSchwab Why don't you think it is a suspension? The E and C in the tenor are held over from the previous bar while the bass moves to D and F. Is it because they aren't tied across the bar? (Suspensions do not have to be tied.)
Thomas Bernhard
@ecp2014
Not a suspension, but still cool.
Generally a beautiful sound!!! Thank you - could use about another 14 second basses to balance in the fortissimo passages - it tended to lean to the right a bit! :) Nevertheless very enjoyable
Well it’s pretty hard to hear bass twos as it is. Lmao
Not a suspension. It's a dominant with a pedal thrown in there.
Think some people should just listen ... and not pick flaws .....lighten up and enjoy.. ,,,wags finger at Inityx...
Good evening, where I can find the full score of this song in pdf format?!
The score at 1:30 has a very low bass line - Gs and Fs. But nobody is singing that line. Why did they miss out the second bass line?
It is there, it's just pretty faint and overshadowed by the High A in the sop line
아베마리아 성가는 인간이 악한 마음을 선한마음으로 정화시켜주는 느낌이다!~🙏*
It's not a suspension, it's a pedal tone. The nonharmonic tone is the held C in the bass, which does not resolve. Yes. I am an asshole.
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@orvilleschmengy You're in music Theory huh?
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@RumoAoSul Whoa there. I know what music is. I compose music, usually choral actually. I've toured Europe singing some of the most beautiful pieces on the planet in some of the most beautiful churches you could imagine. What I stated was my opinion. I didn't say this piece is bad and that no one should or could ever like it. "IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME."
whoa everyone!! matt92091 is a music theory student!! wow!! AND he's an internet critic!! double-wow!! geez, how DOES he find the time to both criticize a song on it's RUclips page AND condescend people he's never met in his life??!!! it's just amazing, folks, cause we all know how difficult it is to judge the work of others, almost as hard as it is to write your own music! i'm sure that in a couple hundred years music theory students of the future will have the distinct privilege of complaining about his own lack of compositional excellence and just how little it "works" for them. and in true trail-blazing fashion, these future music disciples can use matt92091's shameless tactic of stating his "opinion" when everyone knows that he's just trying to look smarter than everyone and act like he's better than others who aren't like himself, helping only in perpetuating the stereotype that music schools are filled with high-minded pricks, their heads shoved straight up their asses, that do nothing to truly advance the art of music, and simply wall themselves in with theory rules and regulations and guidelines for art, which of course NEEDS no rules or boundaries, and only recognize true genius long after the artist is dead, proving that they know NOTHING about art, and preach only academics.
oh, goodness, excuse me... what i meant to say was, God Bless Anton Bruckner! thanks for the upload!
Brilliant.
I love the piece. Buckner was a great composer and this piece shows that. But in my own opinion, the second to last measure could have had a higher chord than the chord before it so the transition into the final chord isn't as similar as the transition into the Fmaj in the fourth to last measure. It is only an opinion of mine, so I apologize to Anton Bruckner for critiquing his work.
That would sound beautiful, Michael! As someone who is currently singing this piece in school, I appreciate reading your comment. That would be a nice transition into the final chord :)
Eden Fritz Aguiar Thank you! I appreciate that you didn't criticize the fact that I thought something in a classical piece should be different. I love this piece! I really hope you guys do it well. Good luck with your musical endeavors!
Thank you, Michael! I wish you luck with your musical endeavors as well!
Hemels
It absolutely dives me insane how flat the entire song is
khakka kasa Emmi Wendy
One stays above all in unearthly solitude "Mozart Lacrimosa"
The chromatics must be challenging for a singer.
Whoever is putting so much vibrato on the baritone part, cut it out.
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Clean, clear and precise...good rendition but as my appreciation it's emotionless...too flat...I prefer schola cantorum or poliphony performances
and i thought his symphonies were great...
I hate this composition. The choir sounds great, but there's no motion or line. It just doesn't work for me.
@orvilleschmengy You're in music Theory huh?