Todd was the original guitarist. When I first met the band in 1984 putting up flyers on Broadway in SF they had a drum machine as their drummer, it was Todd and Les and I cant remember their name for the drum machine! I took their demo, which I wish I still had to the radio station I worked at and so I say I discovered them but if you ask Les he said We discovered Julie!. They played at my 21st Birthday party at a Holiday Inn Wisconsin Room and said it was the hardest gig to load in equipment!
My love for Primus for nearly two decades has just been upgraded! Did not know about the Sausage demo and honestly didn't know they preceded the 90s! Most of my highschool friends weren't onboard with me in highschool (early 90s), but then again I had to convince them that Nirvana was awesome. I truly love how original the band has stayed over all these years. The sound, the way it effects us as listeners, is genuine and fun! Love it!
Wow. I honestly expected this to suck a lot more. Crazy this was their first demo. It’s awesome! I can only imagine if I got a hold of this cassette when it first came out. I would had been sharing it with every person that I could possibly get listen. Such a rad original sound. What music is all about.
Jay Lane and Todd Huth are the originators, Tim Alexander and Larry LaLonde filled their shoes. If you want to hear a hint of what could have been, listen to the band Sausage (not to be confused with this demo), which is the original Primus lineup reunited in the early 90s.
damn, I REALLY love Todd Huth's part, I knew he was great considering he wrote most of the original guitar parts on the first couple albums, but wow, I love what Ler brings to the band but Todd brings a bit more of a funky edge to the guitar! This is a very interesting and impressive upload. Thank you
Riddles Are Abound Tonight is to this day one of my favorite albums. These 3 had lightning. Never taking away from Ler & Tim. I get a kick out of watching Jayski trying to play Grapevine live during the Naugahyde tour. His face screamed “What was Tim thinking!!??”
Sonic Therapy yeah dude The Sausage album is so underrated. That lineup is funkier because of the drums. But Tim makes Primus sound like an Army. I can’t say Tim would be able to pull off the grooves from the Sausage album either though. I just think Tim is a better fit for Primus. And yeah seeing Jay play grapevine is funny because it’s not as natural for him to pull off as Tim.
Les is so amazing with his observations of all the different types of people and his own experience . He attaches everything about all of us as he composes. His imagination compares to 256 expandable... His loyal partners know just how to enhance the message. It's like they' be been granted the necessary permissions
Never heard this before tonight! Kinda insane that Jay defined the Primus drum sound before Herb! When he re-joined the band in 2010, I felt like he was like “Herb light”. I regret my ignorance. All the aspects of Primus drumming that I love are present on this demo. Mind truly blown.
This demo is amazing - Jay Lane and Todd Huth's playing are sensational and unique, as well as Les' singing being a little rougher, but somehow more fun, and the raw-ness of the whole recording is really exciting, making you feel like you're listening to them playing in your garage (which they literally were) - but I think I actually prefer the Frizzle Fry recordings. It just feels like they crystallized their sound a little more. Some of the songs - or parts of the songs - have been sped up or slowed down a little to fit the right jam (example: the slower parts of Groundhogs Day have clearly been slowed down from this recording), Les' singing feels more intentional, putting vocal emphasis or humor where it sounds best, and Larry digs in to the established solos with his own flare and extreme distortion - example: one of my favorite riffs of his (Larry's) is in the slowed-down jam section of Harold of the Rocks right after he shreds through the fretboard, he screams out these two long notes, descending and then ascending into the next bit of the jam, and that's just perfection to me. Not taking anything away from this demo, I just think the Frizzle Fry version shows them having really come into their style on a more professional level, if that makes sense.
@@joeldukes303 Dude, Phil Collins is a national treasure... Just not from the country I am from. However, that being said, Collin's 80s I connect with, and Les Claypool loved the band Collin's played in called BrandX.
I saw them back at the Berkeley Square in '85 (or '86?), purely based on their flyers. The great, single eyeball!!!! Great shows. This demo sounds great! Thank you for posting!
oh the memories in spring of 89 debating the lyrics of harold of the rocks (and also rest of the tape) I can actual identify with the tape hiss on this dub.. its ingrained in my psyche
I absolutely love the raw, higher pitched sound. I don’t really think one sounds better than the other, they just sound different. Don’t worry they both suck. Also does anyone else find it hilarious when Les screams in Frizzle Fry.
I can't believe this is their first recording. It must have blown minds when it dropped. I mean, other bands were hitting some of the aspects Primus did, but these guys came out and tore the house down with full-fledged unique sound that absolutely destroyed, in terms of rocking out. It'd be like if Pink Floyd's early years had never happened, and suddenly they dropped Dark Side of the Moon or The Wall.
Thank you SO much for this. I can't even express how happy it makes me to be able to listen to this. I never knew this existed before last night. It's making me feel things lol. That said. This demo was released the year I was born. I've been a Huge fan of Primus (as you can tell by some of my videos) since I was 14. But I can't fathom what it had to have been like to have been a Primus fan from the beginning and anticipate/experience the subsequent album releases. To wait for Frizzle Fry to drop after hearing Suck on This, then put that in the tape/CD player... Wow! Then Seas of Cheese, then Miscellaneous, then Pork Soda, etc. Sometimes I wish I was born 10 years Earlier.
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I have this exact DEMO! With the sleeve in damn near perfect shape....the matte black analog cassette tape w/Gold Metallic Sharpie track demo name on either side. I love the dry, unpolished production of all these classic songs. It was a spot-on rendition of the TRIO when playin Kennel Club or the Stone. Them euz that DAZE. These fellas were foolz then. I should sell this relic...DISCOGS listed a 2sider of this demo at 2K. Seems reasonable'nuff. Perhaps Puddin' Time'z jus'round da Korner.
Apparently only 1 has been sold through discogs... for the low price of only $125! Good luck finding this one haha. www.discogs.com/Primus-Sausage-/release/7093463
@@daingore I hear ya, but that's because they're debaters. They'll never do anything and they're full of excuses. The best thing is to forget about them. I do. Cheers.
You sold this? I heard it went for 125$ else where in the comments. Crazy. To me this would be like an hierloom to be passed down but I guess that is what happened. Edit: wtf is "discog"?
Les claypool ,you and your musical talents saved my life ;led zeppelin was my favorite band until I ran into your atomic bombs,thank you sir,I'll see u in orlando fla June third, that's the only thing on my bucket list
saw this line up in 87 at Barrington Hall,,, stood right behind Les most of the show with my mouth wide open... it was something to see... Les with long hair in corn rows. Primus Sucks!
Todd was the original guitarist. When I first met the band in 1984 putting up flyers on Broadway in SF they had a drum machine as their drummer, it was Todd and Les and I cant remember their name for the drum machine! I took their demo, which I wish I still had to the radio station I worked at and so I say I discovered them but if you ask Les he said We discovered Julie!. They played at my 21st Birthday party at a Holiday Inn Wisconsin Room and said it was the hardest gig to load in equipment!
Whaaaa? Is this for real?
Larry is and always will be the man! Jeff B.
I'm currently reading Les and the band's oral history "Over the Electric Grapevine" do you know if you got a mention?
Epic
I’d love to hear Primus play with a drum machine.. Thatd be awesome!
00:00 - John the Fisherman
03:26 - Pudding Time
07:32 - Harold of the Rocks
13:26 - Ground Hogs Day
18:04 - Frizzle Fry
Nearly 30 years ago, unbelievable. The "Frizzle Fry" record changed my vision of rock music in 1990!
The melody from Symptom of The Universe has legs
Best album ever.
It was truly revolutionary. NO ONE had ever played bass like Les. And Tim Alexander (The Ginseng Drummer) inspired my playing as a drummer.
@@DavidColemanChrematizonice! What’s your band? 😊
For me Todd Huth is super underrated what a unique groove he has. Harold of the rock solo is pure gold so sick
I agree, a lot of fans don’t even realize that he wrote most of the old iconic guitar lines
It’s so much more funky
Ler and herb made it dark and powerful
I think Jay Lane brings outs the funk. Thats why I love him little bit over Herb
Honestly I am a sucker for the funkier side of things!
its that snare man, its so tight.
Jay lane is a funky jazz drummer
The short drum solo before the usual drum line for John The Fisherman causes a remarkable eargasm
You can catch Jay live with Bob Weir and the wolf brothers
My love for Primus for nearly two decades has just been upgraded! Did not know about the Sausage demo and honestly didn't know they preceded the 90s! Most of my highschool friends weren't onboard with me in highschool (early 90s), but then again I had to convince them that Nirvana was awesome. I truly love how original the band has stayed over all these years. The sound, the way it effects us as listeners, is genuine and fun! Love it!
Wow. I honestly expected this to suck a lot more. Crazy this was their first demo. It’s awesome! I can only imagine if I got a hold of this cassette when it first came out. I would had been sharing it with every person that I could possibly get listen. Such a rad original sound. What music is all about.
It's actually the second demo. The first demo was a tape called Primus Sucks.
I honestly expected this to suck a lot more.
🤔
I own the 1984 demo Its the first
That’s funny, it sucked more than I expected
Jay Lane and Todd Huth are the originators, Tim Alexander and Larry LaLonde filled their shoes. If you want to hear a hint of what could have been, listen to the band Sausage (not to be confused with this demo), which is the original Primus lineup reunited in the early 90s.
i always forget how insane the guitar part is in pudding time. amazing
Kinda of amazing that so few people know who Todd Huth is. I mean hell, his name is all over Primus, including in lyrics.
I really like his guitaring. Was he in other bands?
Todd has appeared with Les several times, with sausage, Les claypool and the holy mackerel, and the frog brigade, Jay Lane was also in those bands.
For sure.. I always preferred his playing to be honest and wish he got more recognition for what he did for Primus
huth is a local 483 sprinkler fitter
fan since 89 and i never heard this till now. i like it, way more raw
at 22:20 no hint of what would eventually become a brilliant place to put a mind blowing guitar solo.
jzimmt for the most part ler had to colour within the lines, but every once in a while les let him do his thang!
Thanks for posting this, I had no clue that they were SO ahead of their time
damn, I REALLY love Todd Huth's part, I knew he was great considering he wrote most of the original guitar parts on the first couple albums, but wow, I love what Ler brings to the band but Todd brings a bit more of a funky edge to the guitar! This is a very interesting and impressive upload. Thank you
Riddles Are Abound Tonight is to this day one of my favorite albums. These 3 had lightning. Never taking away from Ler & Tim. I get a kick out of watching Jayski trying to play Grapevine live during the Naugahyde tour. His face screamed “What was Tim thinking!!??”
Sonic Therapy yeah dude The Sausage album is so underrated. That lineup is funkier because of the drums. But Tim makes Primus sound like an Army. I can’t say Tim would be able to pull off the grooves from the Sausage album either though. I just think Tim is a better fit for Primus. And yeah seeing Jay play grapevine is funny because it’s not as natural for him to pull off as Tim.
Yeah Riddles, especially track 2(?) the one with the ..2, 3 4
Les is so amazing with his observations of all the different types of people and his own experience . He attaches everything about all of us as he composes. His imagination compares to 256 expandable...
His loyal partners know just how to enhance the message. It's like they' be been granted the necessary permissions
One of the most original bands ever.
I saw them live in about 1990 before I had ever heard a single note of their music. I remember I loved it and everyone was screaming about puppies.
Never heard this before tonight! Kinda insane that Jay defined the Primus drum sound before Herb! When he re-joined the band in 2010, I felt like he was like “Herb light”. I regret my ignorance. All the aspects of Primus drumming that I love are present on this demo. Mind truly blown.
This demo is amazing - Jay Lane and Todd Huth's playing are sensational and unique, as well as Les' singing being a little rougher, but somehow more fun, and the raw-ness of the whole recording is really exciting, making you feel like you're listening to them playing in your garage (which they literally were) - but I think I actually prefer the Frizzle Fry recordings. It just feels like they crystallized their sound a little more. Some of the songs - or parts of the songs - have been sped up or slowed down a little to fit the right jam (example: the slower parts of Groundhogs Day have clearly been slowed down from this recording), Les' singing feels more intentional, putting vocal emphasis or humor where it sounds best, and Larry digs in to the established solos with his own flare and extreme distortion - example: one of my favorite riffs of his (Larry's) is in the slowed-down jam section of Harold of the Rocks right after he shreds through the fretboard, he screams out these two long notes, descending and then ascending into the next bit of the jam, and that's just perfection to me. Not taking anything away from this demo, I just think the Frizzle Fry version shows them having really come into their style on a more professional level, if that makes sense.
No, this demo sucks
@@flamu9183 this demo does indeed SUCK. primus sucks ;]
Great Demo.been a Fan of Primus Since Frizzle Fry. This band was so Unique in many ways but loved there music. 31 years Later sounds great.
Jay Lane's drumming on Pudding Time is other worldly, amazing stuff!
Thanks for this. Great little rarity
Dave Grohl played this tape at a party in 1989 and made all the punk rockers angry.
Mark Squier
Grohl is a bitch
But Phil Collins is cool, hmmmmm...
@@joeldukes303 Dude, Phil Collins is a national treasure... Just not from the country I am from. However, that being said, Collin's 80s I connect with, and Les Claypool loved the band Collin's played in called BrandX.
Phil Collins Hill What makes you say that
Joel Dukes never seen South Park huh?
Pudding Time in an early version is so great :) ... and Frizzle Fry ... whow that's fresh, even today!
I saw them back at the Berkeley Square in '85 (or '86?), purely based on their flyers. The great, single eyeball!!!! Great shows. This demo sounds great! Thank you for posting!
thats amazing I want to know more about this old show you saw
so crazy that Jay fills in for the Grateful Dead now
Thanks for uploading this awesome piece of history mate.
Heh heh, I bought this demo Halloween 1988 from Les @ Mystic theater in Petaluma CA. Oh, yeah- it rocked that evening. 🎉
Do you still own the tape ? i want to see it =) hendershot_11106 At yaHoo
I started learning bass guitar because of Primus (about 20 years ago), then I learned that Claypool bass can get real super tech.
I have never got the hang of Tommy.
Tommy the cat is probably one of the most insane bass lines ever to be recorded. Not to mention Les is singing at the same time.😁
@@thatunicornhastheaudacity when people tell me they can can play it, I say "show me"... it's never tommy.
years later, i gave up on bass and just shred Slayer type stuff on 6 string. I took the easy road.
Merry Christmas Primus fans.
🍻🍻
Just when I thought that I listened to all there was Primus
@@filecabinetcoffee436 oh there’s a hell of a lot more my friend.
His name was Robert Paulson
oh the memories in spring of 89 debating the lyrics of harold of the rocks (and also rest of the tape)
I can actual identify with the tape hiss on this dub.. its ingrained in my psyche
Thanks for sharing this awesome Demo Tape.
Omg this is such a treat. You can hear how incredibly talented everyone is without all the studio tricks added to it yet
Primus stands the test of time!!
I absolutely love the raw, higher pitched sound. I don’t really think one sounds better than the other, they just sound different. Don’t worry they both suck. Also does anyone else find it hilarious when Les screams in Frizzle Fry.
Yes, me! hilarious!...a cartoon death jump!...ruclips.net/video/MfYLiMA0uns/видео.html
This is good stuff. Thanks for posting.
so much wow, many pleasings. I don't go as far as even what this is.
simply beautiful!
I can't believe this is their first recording. It must have blown minds when it dropped. I mean, other bands were hitting some of the aspects Primus did, but these guys came out and tore the house down with full-fledged unique sound that absolutely destroyed, in terms of rocking out. It'd be like if Pink Floyd's early years had never happened, and suddenly they dropped Dark Side of the Moon or The Wall.
Look up the sucking songs demo from 86 ;)
@@TheScripflipNetwork And then look up the 1986 and 1984 demos that came before that one.
So Ler didn't write those guitar parts
i forgive him
He also didn't write the guitar part to Tommy the Cat
Me too, he's awesome anyway
Eldritchkaiju Or Too Many Puppies
quite a few of their hits actually. He did not write on Pudding Time Either
Great quality! Thanks
Best version of frizzle fry
Thank you SO much for this. I can't even express how happy it makes me to be able to listen to this. I never knew this existed before last night. It's making me feel things lol.
That said. This demo was released the year I was born. I've been a Huge fan of Primus (as you can tell by some of my videos) since I was 14. But I can't fathom what it had to have been like to have been a Primus fan from the beginning and anticipate/experience the subsequent album releases. To wait for Frizzle Fry to drop after hearing Suck on This, then put that in the tape/CD player... Wow! Then Seas of Cheese, then Miscellaneous, then Pork Soda, etc. Sometimes I wish I was born 10 years Earlier.
Jay Lane is a beast!!!
Holy shit! Thank you so much. Been wanting these demos. Primus is a seminal part of my late teens (90s)
Pudding Time sounds badass on this
awesome upload its such a great listen especially seeing as some of the cassettes are going for $2k
This is great! Thanks for posting.
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why
Dude you hgih as fuck
yea, and it's all sucks.
label, label, label, label, label, label, and label
Primus
21:35 nice
That was a really cool part,
I have this exact DEMO! With the sleeve in damn near perfect shape....the matte black analog cassette tape w/Gold Metallic Sharpie track demo name on either side. I love the dry, unpolished production of all these classic songs. It was a spot-on rendition of the TRIO when playin Kennel Club or the Stone. Them euz that DAZE. These fellas were foolz then. I should sell this relic...DISCOGS listed a 2sider of this demo at 2K. Seems reasonable'nuff. Perhaps Puddin' Time'z jus'round da Korner.
Uuufff…great demo 🤯
Awesome!!!
Sounds amazing for a demo
This Harold of the rock solo is a piece of art
Youngsensimilla
Huth ripped it!
This upload is god tier
Tight!
this one time,at band camp... I heard primus
I've never heard this. I think I like this version of Harold of the Rocks better than the Frizzle Fry and the Suck On This versions.
John sounds so heavy on this recording. All three punching the notes out of their instruments.
This is amazing. Thank you for the upload!
This is raw Gold!
alluring!!!
Wow, it's hard to tell Jay and Tim apart; they sound almost identical!
According to Claypool, Tim is like Gorilla moving through the forest, and Lay has that more bouncy feel, whatever that means :p
I respectfully disagree. Two awesome drummers with their own flavour
Wtf??? Jay Lane killing it!
Yes definitely! Any idea what happened to him? Herb is good too, but I am really digging Jay’s licks.
@New York You know that he played on Green Naugahyde?
Such a great drummer!
@@superkatarsis yes! Was it Tim Wright that played in 1986 Sgt Baker? He was really good as well, as is Herb. I don’t care for Brain too much though.
@New York I love Brain too! I dunno about 1986!
@New York Are you a drummer as well?
holy shit it sounds pretty good for a demo
that versions of frizzle fry is fuckin killer
Ol' *"Fungo Mungo."*
A 24bit gem that would have earstrucked most newgenre amateurs
Jeremie Lamoureux I don’t get it isn’t 24 bit the regular res for music?
16-bit
35 years ago
Jay Lane is a fucking beast.
God I love that frizzle fry end one of the best pieces of thrash to come out of the 90s (when the album was released)
Para ser una demo se escucha la raja
PRIMUS SUCKS! Really badass! Thanks so much! All kinds of happy
That guitar solo at around the ten minute mark is just straight fire.
Glad I got to see em live
Absolutely stunning band
Utterly Exellent
Now where to find the actual physical copy...
Apparently only 1 has been sold through discogs... for the low price of only $125! Good luck finding this one haha.
www.discogs.com/Primus-Sausage-/release/7093463
Saw Them play at UVM in 88 or 89
Brilliant
Thanks to uploaded!!!
Where can I downloaded???
Thanks to share música ma frend!!!
Lmao he sounds like weird al on this album, but it's still good.
I of course love Tim Herb and Lar but if this had been the lineup I don't think I would have minded. I loved the Sausage project so....
What’s with all the “this person is better than that person”? It’s not any better it’s just different .
Right on, I hate all that competition type shit.
Hear, hear! All these musicians are fucking amazing!!!
@@zakjo the amount of time people waste debating who is great could be spent working on being great...
@@daingore Indeed!
@@daingore I hear ya, but that's because they're debaters. They'll never do anything and they're full of excuses. The best thing is to forget about them. I do. Cheers.
I dreamed of God, I found it here.
From MY Original cassette
Likely found on discogs
You sold this? I heard it went for 125$ else where in the comments. Crazy. To me this would be like an hierloom to be passed down but I guess that is what happened.
Edit: wtf is "discog"?
@@thatunicornhastheaudacity Discogs is a database website that you can buy music from.
Gyawd to have known the gang then!! They’re Primus, and they’ve been known to suck from time to time!!
Perfection47 from time to time? My friend, Primus sucks 24/7
Les claypool ,you and your musical talents saved my life ;led zeppelin was my favorite band until I ran into your atomic bombs,thank you sir,I'll see u in orlando fla June third, that's the only thing on my bucket list
Primus. If you know, you know. 😁😉
RAW
Damn primus sounding dirtier than they normal sound
Does anyone know who drew the cover? I really like it.
Lance "Link" Montoya drew it...
10:12 Holy shit look this guitar!
Thanks for the upload, do you have the actual tape? would you consider selling it? please let me know
Why would he sell it to you?
Steve K was I talking to you? No, right? Mind your own business dumbass
you suck
NewJack No casual, heard Tommy the cat for the 1st time in '89
Laura Gonzalez Sorry its not for sale, Bwahahahahahaha!!
sick
saw this line up in 87 at Barrington Hall,,, stood right behind Les most of the show with my mouth wide open... it was something to see... Les with long hair in corn rows. Primus Sucks!
from the first note everything is there. It's all about having your "sound" now isn't it.
i prefer the weird Anatolian feel of this version of Frizzle Fry
Anatolian feel..
Has anyone called the number?
well this sucks
MASSIVE SUCK!
Suck on this 🍼
PRIMUS SUCKS 🤘🏻
how and where was this found? I am blown away right now.....
I got it from a friend ... not sure where he got it.
I have seen it for sale ... kinda pricey.
i have a seven incher of 2 songs