I moved from Home Assistant to Homey Pro. As a software developer myself I'm not unable to write YAML files all day to automate my home, I just don't want to. I have no desire to manage a Linux device in my free time just to switch on my Hue lights. Homey Pro is like an Apple device: it's expensive, but it WORKS.
I'm looking for a smart home brain for my house for local control when my internet goes down what do you reccomend honey pro or hubitat my coding experience is limited but I am a computer and technology guy I want something that works reliably
i'm a long time homey pro 2016 edition user and one thing which is not mentioend is the long support. I'm still getting support for their first product and almost all the new features like advanced flows.
Zooz! They added that since I recorded the video. That is great news. Don't know if Wyze is in the pipeline or not but they do seem committed to the US market
I got to say that I really like the idea of this hub. I am skeptical generally speaking of putting all my eggs in one basket, but it definitely seems like a one size fits all solution for the smart home. There is a bit of sticker shock, but if you consider The price of separate hubs with all the different radios, I think it's reasonable. Great review!
I am a Wink refugee that settled into Habitat. I manage 2 homes with smart devices and Hubitats. Is this worth moving my refugee camp from Hubitat to this or should I continue to get settled in?
If your devices are compatible with the homey pro (or if you want an excuse to get new devices) I say go for it! Automating with Flows are a much different experience than using rule machine and in my opinion significantly better. If you like using rule machine, stick with it. But if it makes you want to pull your hair out (like it did for me) you’ll probably love the homey pro. Overall the homey pro is just a much more polished platform than Hubitat.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thank you for the reply! Love the channel btw. I think I will keep an eye on it and when I need to upgrade, I will pull the trigger. The thought of migrating 100+ devices terrifies me.
I have used Homey Bridge for more than a year on the American continent. It's cheaper but it's cloud based. I would like to try Homey Pro. And yes, compatibility with what you can get on this side of the planet is not big.
The homey pro gives you access to community apps, which definitely expands the compatibility over the homey bridge, but I still look forward to the day when they improve their generic device compatibility.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 yes, it has much more to offer than the bidge. I will try it out. And like you said, for someone starting it's one of the best options.
Even in Europe there are quite a few devices that Homey does not know, however, the biggest problem is that it is not open source, nor are the community apps. That means that upon a major update, a lot of apps no longer work until the developer feels like updating. If they don’t, well, that’s it. I’ve had that in the last few years so often, I’ve moved to Home Assistant since everything is open source and unsupported integrations are quickly forked by other developers.
Good to know. I've only had it for a little bit, but didn't notice anything getting messed up with the recent 10.2 update. Did you notice this happen with official apps, too, or just with community apps?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 The official apps are mostly fine. The main problems I had were seen with major updates (so for you to 11.0), as that usually included significant code changes. I've had critical apps (for me) stop functioning and not being maintained by the community developer. If you read the forum you'll see that the relationship between Athom and developer community is very poor which does not help. The flow-function is very good but was a paid upgrade for my, already expensive, system. I find Node-Red in HA equally simple to use. In general I think that Homey is very good for a starting home automation but once things become more complex, it is just to limited in compatibility and functionality.
I’m in Europe and I’ve been on Homey since 2019 and the only time this has been a problem is with the release of their latest hub (the one you are reviewing) because it’s such a major update. I believe that the problem is that many of the community apps are several years old and have been just working for a long time, so the developers didn’t have to support them for a long time, and all of a sudden when the new hub came out, it turns out that many of the devs for the community developed apps are no longer around to update them. However, my feeling is that the tempo with new apps and updates of old ones are being pushed a lot right now, especially with the US launch. I’m feeling confident that this will give Homey the well deserved push from many major vendors to release their own official apps. I have 100+ devices connected to my hub through Zwave, Zigbee, Wifi, 433MHz and IR and I haven’t experienced any problems during the years with Homey. I guess this can be a result from my strategy to mainly stick to the bigger brands with well supported apps.
Hubitat could be the home automation market king if they invested in the user experience. It’s good to see a powerful hub that makes home automation more approachable.
Agree! I have a Hubitat C7 but for me as an European user Hubitat just doesnt work with enough devices. And the user friendlines is not something to write home about. So as soon as I can afford it, I’m gonna switch over to Homey.
LAN devices are a piece of cake, but zigbee/zwave you’ll have to remove from Hubitat and re-add just like switching to any other platform. I personally haven’t had any issues moving my GE switches, but I haven’t moved a ton because I’m in still making content with the Hubitat and testing them in home assistant. A friend of mine said he’s experienced some trouble with some older generation GE dimmers but they are so far working fine for me.
With LG buying Homey do you think it will go down hill like it did with Samsung Smarthings. I currently have Smarthings and want to switch but don't want to make the same mistake. Thanks
Hard to say. The homey founders are insisting they aren’t leaving and the investment will only make the product better. But we all know what happened with SmartThings so it’s hard not to be suspicious.
Is there a way to convert to HomeyPro from another Hub, such as Smarthing or Hubitat, without going through the exclusion and inclusion on the new hub?
I'm currently using home automation software that runs on the Mac and supports Insteon, which has been reliable but appears to be pretty much on the verge of collapse. My Insteon devices are mainly switches, plugs, and motions sensors. I'm considering on switching to either Homey Pro or Hubitat. Anyone switched from Hubitat to Homey Pro, and if so why?
I run both Hubitat and Homey pro. If I was starting fresh with just one, I would definitely go with Homey for the ease of use. As a Mac user, you will appreciate the thought they put into the user interface compared to Hubitat’s borderline distain for aesthetics.
The issue with Homey he mentions; that it cannot controll a lot of US-made brands. Well thats exactly the issue I got with Hubitat as an european user. But honestly, the difference I can see is that with Homey a lot of devices are actually added to there compabillity-list wheres not much is beeing added to Hubitat.
homey pro connects directly to zegbee, matter, zwave plus, etc or still need hub for each device. I would like to buy it to replace HA. hello thank you from Italy
Homey pro does connect directly to zigbee, matter and zwave devices. Just make sure the device you want to connect are compatible. Check the homey pro App Store to see if the brands you use are there
Ideally it would replace your smartthings hub, but you may want to keep it running if there are a few integrations that are not yet in the Homey system.
My Ring integration works just fine. Don't know anything about Dyson. I'd recommend posting in the Homey online community and see if they have any answers. Wish I had more info for you
I'm not very familiar with how Crestron communicates with other systems, but it looks like some people have been able to connect the Homey Pro and Crestron using the Homey API key. You can read about the homey API here: support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/8178797067292-Getting-started-with-API-Keys
@@giovannivanhaaren9885 For $400, I got a full survey that runs home assistant with no internet, it also is a Time Machine backup for me and my wife's MacBooks, a pi-hole, a Plex server, my password manager server (vaultwarden) a DHCP router, and more. There is no world where Homey is worth the same as all of that combined, even if you don't want to learn home assistant.
You connect your network adaptor wrong to the Homey. The network adaptor needs to connect to the power supply, not directly to the Homey. If you do this it works but you get connection problems al te time.
You’re right. I’ve just been using it on WiFi, which has worked great but when I filmed that bit I should have been a little more careful. Thanks for the clarification.
Spend $400 and be prepared to re program your entire home, OR if like me, you already have your entire home automated without a Homey, just using Google Home and their automation routines. Yes, you will need a solution for BlueTooth and Zigbee items but I have fixed that with a $5 bluetooth bridge and a $25 Zigbee bridge . So please explain to me why I will be a better citizen (and save money) with a Homey.
I don't think any hub will make you a better citizen and you definitely won't save money with a Homey Pro. But you will get local control of your automations that you don't get with Google Home. Plus you'll be able to do much more powerful automations with an easier user interface. In fact, you can learn more about it here: ruclips.net/video/wmIQj2OF88w/видео.html
I think I sort of want to try this out. I’ve built a smart home a long time ago using smart things version 1. Was not happy and ended up scrapping it all. Didn’t do it again for awhile until I found out about home assistant. This was great until it wasn’t. Things started breaking and I ended up having to fix some things and due to how difficult it was to get running in the first place for me, I left things broken for awhile before fixing. I eventually fixed things. It didn’t last long. I don’t know what I was doing wrong but that’s sort of the issue. It’s too complicated for me to understand everything I’m doing since a lot of it is copy and paste from what others do online so I don’t know what I’m doing to make things work either. I eventually gave up on it too. HomeyPro sounds like it may just be the solution. Question though I really like a lot of aqara stuff and already have some. Does homeypro support aqara at all.
I had really good luck with the Aqara p1 motion sensor getting that connected. They don’t support every Aqara device but they do work with a lot of them. You can see their Aqara compatibility here; homey.app/en-us/app/com.xiaomi-mi/Aqara/
I had the original home pro and still use it integrated into HAnwith mqtt running 433 mhz stuff, I wouldn’t buy into the homey vision again, too many failed promises
The Hubitat online community is pretty great! The homey community seems fairly active and there are a bunch of community apps, but I haven’t spent enough time in it to compare the two.
UPDATE: Zooz devices were added to the Homey Pro App store since I recorded this video.
I moved from Home Assistant to Homey Pro. As a software developer myself I'm not unable to write YAML files all day to automate my home, I just don't want to. I have no desire to manage a Linux device in my free time just to switch on my Hue lights. Homey Pro is like an Apple device: it's expensive, but it WORKS.
The more I use it, the more impressed I am. Using advanced flows are an absolute joy compared to every other automation engine out there.
I'm looking for a smart home brain for my house for local control when my internet goes down what do you reccomend honey pro or hubitat my coding experience is limited but I am a computer and technology guy I want something that works reliably
I'm really excited to explore more with the Homey Pro. What do you guys think of the hub?
Homey user from the year 2017, so never needed a other smarthome hub !
Thanks for this video. I have a homey. Need more homey pro videos in english on RUclips. Needs some tutorial videos as well.
Well, I don't know any other languages, so english it is! Based on the response, I don't think this will be the last homey pro content we product
i'm a long time homey pro 2016 edition user and one thing which is not mentioend is the long support. I'm still getting support for their first product and almost all the new features like advanced flows.
That's great to hear. For an expensive hub, it's nice to know it should last a long time.
This is an awesome hub for sure. I remember the Stringify Flows and they were awesome. I miss that app!
Thanks, Bud! Flows are awesome
Thank for the video you answered a lot of questions that I had. I like the HomeyPro but need to see them add Wyze. Good to see they've added Zooz.
Zooz! They added that since I recorded the video. That is great news. Don't know if Wyze is in the pipeline or not but they do seem committed to the US market
I got to say that I really like the idea of this hub. I am skeptical generally speaking of putting all my eggs in one basket, but it definitely seems like a one size fits all solution for the smart home. There is a bit of sticker shock, but if you consider The price of separate hubs with all the different radios, I think it's reasonable. Great review!
Thanks! I’ve had it for a little over a month now and it has been a joy to use.
I am a Wink refugee that settled into Habitat. I manage 2 homes with smart devices and Hubitats. Is this worth moving my refugee camp from Hubitat to this or should I continue to get settled in?
If your devices are compatible with the homey pro (or if you want an excuse to get new devices) I say go for it! Automating with Flows are a much different experience than using rule machine and in my opinion significantly better. If you like using rule machine, stick with it. But if it makes you want to pull your hair out (like it did for me) you’ll probably love the homey pro. Overall the homey pro is just a much more polished platform than Hubitat.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 Thank you for the reply! Love the channel btw. I think I will keep an eye on it and when I need to upgrade, I will pull the trigger. The thought of migrating 100+ devices terrifies me.
I have used Homey Bridge for more than a year on the American continent. It's cheaper but it's cloud based. I would like to try Homey Pro. And yes, compatibility with what you can get on this side of the planet is not big.
The homey pro gives you access to community apps, which definitely expands the compatibility over the homey bridge, but I still look forward to the day when they improve their generic device compatibility.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 yes, it has much more to offer than the bidge. I will try it out. And like you said, for someone starting it's one of the best options.
Thanks!
Thank you! More homey pro content is on the way!
Nice video, well done! Yes, please... more home assistant videos!
stay tuned...
Even in Europe there are quite a few devices that Homey does not know, however, the biggest problem is that it is not open source, nor are the community apps. That means that upon a major update, a lot of apps no longer work until the developer feels like updating. If they don’t, well, that’s it. I’ve had that in the last few years so often, I’ve moved to Home Assistant since everything is open source and unsupported integrations are quickly forked by other developers.
Good to know. I've only had it for a little bit, but didn't notice anything getting messed up with the recent 10.2 update. Did you notice this happen with official apps, too, or just with community apps?
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 The official apps are mostly fine. The main problems I had were seen with major updates (so for you to 11.0), as that usually included significant code changes. I've had critical apps (for me) stop functioning and not being maintained by the community developer. If you read the forum you'll see that the relationship between Athom and developer community is very poor which does not help.
The flow-function is very good but was a paid upgrade for my, already expensive, system. I find Node-Red in HA equally simple to use.
In general I think that Homey is very good for a starting home automation but once things become more complex, it is just to limited in compatibility and functionality.
I’m in Europe and I’ve been on Homey since 2019 and the only time this has been a problem is with the release of their latest hub (the one you are reviewing) because it’s such a major update. I believe that the problem is that many of the community apps are several years old and have been just working for a long time, so the developers didn’t have to support them for a long time, and all of a sudden when the new hub came out, it turns out that many of the devs for the community developed apps are no longer around to update them. However, my feeling is that the tempo with new apps and updates of old ones are being pushed a lot right now, especially with the US launch. I’m feeling confident that this will give Homey the well deserved push from many major vendors to release their own official apps. I have 100+ devices connected to my hub through Zwave, Zigbee, Wifi, 433MHz and IR and I haven’t experienced any problems during the years with Homey. I guess this can be a result from my strategy to mainly stick to the bigger brands with well supported apps.
I may consider this if this can replace a Philip hue hub..
Shots fired at hubitat. 😅
Hubitat could be the home automation market king if they invested in the user experience. It’s good to see a powerful hub that makes home automation more approachable.
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 fully agree. I'm technical but would love the flow system in hubitat.
Agree! I have a Hubitat C7 but for me as an European user Hubitat just doesnt work with enough devices. And the user friendlines is not something to write home about. So as soon as I can afford it, I’m gonna switch over to Homey.
you have a smart home simular to mine. Is there an easy way to move from the Hubitat to the Homepro? Did you have issues moving your GE switches?
LAN devices are a piece of cake, but zigbee/zwave you’ll have to remove from Hubitat and re-add just like switching to any other platform. I personally haven’t had any issues moving my GE switches, but I haven’t moved a ton because I’m in still making content with the Hubitat and testing them in home assistant. A friend of mine said he’s experienced some trouble with some older generation GE dimmers but they are so far working fine for me.
With LG buying Homey do you think it will go down hill like it did with Samsung Smarthings. I currently have Smarthings and want to switch but don't want to make the same mistake. Thanks
Hard to say. The homey founders are insisting they aren’t leaving and the investment will only make the product better. But we all know what happened with SmartThings so it’s hard not to be suspicious.
Would a regular Ethernet to USB-c work?
Is there a way to convert to HomeyPro from another Hub, such as Smarthing or Hubitat, without going through the exclusion and inclusion on the new hub?
Unfortunately, no. That's just the way zigbee and z-wave work
I'm currently using home automation software that runs on the Mac and supports Insteon, which has been reliable but appears to be pretty much on the verge of collapse. My Insteon devices are mainly switches, plugs, and motions sensors. I'm considering on switching to either Homey Pro or Hubitat. Anyone switched from Hubitat to Homey Pro, and if so why?
I run both Hubitat and Homey pro. If I was starting fresh with just one, I would definitely go with Homey for the ease of use. As a Mac user, you will appreciate the thought they put into the user interface compared to Hubitat’s borderline distain for aesthetics.
Wait ..isn’t this the spokesperson for Hubitat ?
The issue with Homey he mentions; that it cannot controll a lot of US-made brands. Well thats exactly the issue I got with Hubitat as an european user. But honestly, the difference I can see is that with Homey a lot of devices are actually added to there compabillity-list wheres not much is beeing added to Hubitat.
All good points
homey pro connects directly to zegbee, matter, zwave plus, etc or still need hub for each device.
I would like to buy it to replace HA.
hello thank you from Italy
Homey pro does connect directly to zigbee, matter and zwave devices. Just make sure the device you want to connect are compatible. Check the homey pro App Store to see if the brands you use are there
I really would like to know about the bluetooth.
So with this replace my Samsung SmartThings or go with it?
Ideally it would replace your smartthings hub, but you may want to keep it running if there are a few integrations that are not yet in the Homey system.
I have a virtual hub and neither Ring nor Dyson can connect, it always says wrong code after authentication. Why?
My Ring integration works just fine. Don't know anything about Dyson. I'd recommend posting in the Homey online community and see if they have any answers. Wish I had more info for you
I use Homey since it was a startup in 2016 and still a happy user.
Even my Dyson Cool is running great with the Homey !
They don't have terminal support for 2 way external integration with professional home automation like crestron
Could you please confirm that?
I'm not very familiar with how Crestron communicates with other systems, but it looks like some people have been able to connect the Homey Pro and Crestron using the Homey API key. You can read about the homey API here: support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/8178797067292-Getting-started-with-API-Keys
Can it speak using Amazon echo without goofy virtual switches like smart things ??
Yes, with most types of devices, but you’ll have to use virtual switches for motion sensors
Homey pro at $150 or $200 might be a serious consideration to replace home assistant… maybe. But not at $400
They would sell millions at a $150 price point. Maybe they are paying attention?!
@@DIYSmartHomeGuy1 maybe they can’t make that many. So they price high on purpose. But they’re just alienating people
400 is well worth it. Homey is running my whole house and the 2023 version with LAN does it even when there is no internet.
@@giovannivanhaaren9885 For $400, I got a full survey that runs home assistant with no internet, it also is a Time Machine backup for me and my wife's MacBooks, a pi-hole, a Plex server, my password manager server (vaultwarden) a DHCP router, and more. There is no world where Homey is worth the same as all of that combined, even if you don't want to learn home assistant.
Hey! This guy is not the diy guy!!😂. Wow $399?? That's too expensive!
It’s worth it
DIY guy is the James Bond of smart home RUclips. No matter who plays the roll, we’re always taking our martinis shaken, not stirred.
Too much
It could because of all the licences it needs ... It has everything available...
You connect your network adaptor wrong to the Homey. The network adaptor needs to connect to the power supply, not directly to the Homey. If you do this it works but you get connection problems al te time.
You’re right. I’ve just been using it on WiFi, which has worked great but when I filmed that bit I should have been a little more careful. Thanks for the clarification.
Spend $400 and be prepared to re program your entire home, OR if like me, you already have your entire home automated without a Homey, just using Google Home and their automation routines. Yes, you will need a solution for BlueTooth and Zigbee items but I have fixed that with a $5 bluetooth bridge and a $25 Zigbee bridge . So please explain to me why I will be a better citizen (and save money) with a Homey.
I don't think any hub will make you a better citizen and you definitely won't save money with a Homey Pro. But you will get local control of your automations that you don't get with Google Home. Plus you'll be able to do much more powerful automations with an easier user interface. In fact, you can learn more about it here: ruclips.net/video/wmIQj2OF88w/видео.html
Hopefully you won't end up with a rat cage on your face. If I need to explain that reference I understand why you are a Google home user
I thought connecting the ethernet adapter to the hub is wrong? It should be connect to the adapter directly
You thought correctly. We got the wrong clip in the video
I think I sort of want to try this out. I’ve built a smart home a long time ago using smart things version 1. Was not happy and ended up scrapping it all. Didn’t do it again for awhile until I found out about home assistant. This was great until it wasn’t. Things started breaking and I ended up having to fix some things and due to how difficult it was to get running in the first place for me, I left things broken for awhile before fixing. I eventually fixed things. It didn’t last long. I don’t know what I was doing wrong but that’s sort of the issue. It’s too complicated for me to understand everything I’m doing since a lot of it is copy and paste from what others do online so I don’t know what I’m doing to make things work either. I eventually gave up on it too.
HomeyPro sounds like it may just be the solution.
Question though I really like a lot of aqara stuff and already have some. Does homeypro support aqara at all.
I had really good luck with the Aqara p1 motion sensor getting that connected. They don’t support every Aqara device but they do work with a lot of them. You can see their Aqara compatibility here; homey.app/en-us/app/com.xiaomi-mi/Aqara/
$399 and it does not support DSC alarms or Honeywell wifi thermostats. This was a deal breaker for me. To bad, it looks like a nice Hub.
I had the original home pro and still use it integrated into HAnwith mqtt running 433 mhz stuff, I wouldn’t buy into the homey vision again, too many failed promises
Can't put a price on the hubitat and HA communities. Hubitat dashboards and UI need more features tho.... HA probably needs less
The Hubitat online community is pretty great! The homey community seems fairly active and there are a bunch of community apps, but I haven’t spent enough time in it to compare the two.
Come on dude that’s not the home assistant hub
It’s about time someone commented on that! I’ve snuck that monstrosity into three videos just trying to get a reaction.
$399 too much.
What would be a good price? It is a bit more expensive than others.