Amanda Seales Exposes Issa Rae & Reacts To 'Mean Girl' Criticism
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Issa Rae doesn’t have to like Amanda, but not liking someone doesn’t stop you from doing what’s right when you know and have the power to stop someone from being treated poorly especially in this instance.
You are always so eloquent and clear👌🏾
This
Precisely, it sounds to me like Issa was trying to approach this as a “friend” or peer as opposed to a manager
And that's all Amanda was saying. But 🤷🏽♀️
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Amanda told this story the day after it happened and I remember thinking to myself that Issa Rae must not like her. It seemed obvious from the beginning to me.
If the interview is watched completely you'll see Amanda is autistic. Autistic traits include ruminating and caring about facts or principals of a situation. She also mentioned how in the black community, her mom didn't acknowledge autistic traits.... without understanding of this further reflection isn't going to go far...
Exactly. If you like someone you stand up for them. Issa is the mean girl.
Because she doent like her?@CapricornSunAndMoon
I remember thinking the same thing. I was wondering why Issa didn’t say or do anything. How does someone blame their employee for access to an event. She’s the boss and has the final say.
@@tyisha2105 The publicist was in charge of the party, so she got to say who was and wasn’t invited and she had authority to kick any one out. The thing I’m having a hard time believing is Issa being unaware that Vanessa didn’t invite Amanda. This whole thing could have been remedied if Issa made sure that all cast members got invites like a good boss should.
Issa didn't handle the situation well with her publicist and Amanda
1000%
I still wanna hear the other sides 🤷🏽♀️. We're only hearing from Amanda. All of her cast mates were there and not a single one defended her
Not a single one. I’m curious as to why also.
Because they don’t like her. St all. Which is fine, but be professional. If this was an industry party for Black entertainers, and she is indeed an actor on the same show, why not let her in? Because you don’t like her. Either be professional or honest.
@@imjustsaying364exactly and sooner than later they will all be at each other’s throat
Amanda Seals story reminds me of the episode of 30 Rock when Tina Fey talked about being bullied during high school. But when they showed the flashbacks, everyone else interpreted Tina Fey as the bully.
So Issa told Amanda she didnt like her in the nicest way possible while Issa's publicist told Amanda she didnt like her in the meanest way possible.
Sometimes you gotta take a step back and realize sometimes it’s you.
Facts, facts.
This is not completely Amanda, period.
Sometimes it's really not. A lot of things goes in behind the scenes that oftentimes given your position. U can't speak of. So to keep the peace. You take an L. So it's not always u.,
THANK YOU! She lied about a man being a grapist. This lady is unhinged
U heard she complaining abt Shannon for club shay shay? I agree....with this woman, the world seems to be against her..to hear Amanda tell it
I think both are true at the same time
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That's a great possibility, and unfortunately some dont understand that 2 things can be true at the same time.
How is this an different than the rampant bullying black women experience in Corporate America? Amanda Seales deserved to be protected by her employer. Issa should have stepped in and checked her publicist; they are BOTH her employees.
I agree but Issa obviously didn't like her either and just couldn't be bothered. I bet if that had happened to "Molly" she would have stepped in and checked that publicist.🤨🤔
Amanda Seales is exhausting! So much so that I don’t have the energy to write more.
Well damn 😮
Facts
You’re so exhausted but had the time and energy to write that sentence.
@@lisam.w.anonymous3690she's being sarcastic
Amanda tries way too hard to be this odd mashup of Malcolm X and Mya Angelu and she comes off as a know it all self righteous angry lady and it's very pretentious and exhausting
Plot twist: they are both mean girls. The end!
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@@brizy___😅
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I just said that!
right lol lets not act like amanda isnt a mean girl and very condescending
I am never surprised by these kinds of behaviours: when there are no clear boundaries or professionalism in the work environment and everyone pretends to be friends when they are clearly not, a mess like this always happens. What flabbergasts me is Amanda's delusional thinking that bad behaviour is only akin to power. Really?
I think it’s sad that Amanda was bullied and her boss did nothing to step in to stop spreading malicious lies. If you imagine how someone can try to get your bag is so damaging and it looks like it is work politics that happens a lot. The mean girl at the office is the most dangerous person there!
To be fair, Issa did everything right in her power with the facts at play. The new information about Amanda’s diagnosis sheds new light and Issa May have handled things different with said information
Yes that creates and hostile work environment among the employees and if you're the boss you set the tone of what is or isn't tolerated
@Catchthiswaver she wouldnt even answer that she was diagnosed by a dr. She talked around it. So. It makes it seems as if she's self diagnosing from an online quizz.
@Catchthiswaver No...she didn't...Amanda's diagnosis has nothing to do with it. As the "boss" you step in when 2 "employees" have an issue in order to resolve the situation...very unprofessional of her. And why does she have to tell anyone whether she was professionally diagnosed or not?? I don't see anyone asking if Kanye was diagnosed with his ASD🙄
@@eebz5 she said after talking to her therapist. Also, she doesn’t owe us her personal health history
I think Amanda is very intelligent and loyal to people she consider as her friends. Everyone is not gonna treat her and have her back like she will. People can be low key mean and cruel, women can be the worst. Issa did not like her at all and your right, Amanda didn’t read the writings on the wall .
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Unfortunately, that a huge part of autism...not picking up on social cues, reading the room etc
She has friends about as much as she has autism. 😅
She seems to be hard to get along with and easily triggered. Imagine having to deal with all that shouting. Trumpian if you ask me.
sometimes its bcuz you dont want to believe it.
Amanda needs to go where she is appreciated and respected, I would not want to work with someone who does not like me and makes my experience working for them like being in hell
Considering that nobody likes her I think that’d be hard. I’m being facetious…but seriously all we hear about is how people don’t like her. She’s always been annoying as heck to me. And not because she’s honest and speaks her mind and is intelligent…it’s because of her arrogance and entitlement. And inability to take accountability in any of the situations she talks about.
@@tunitune777what does she need to take accountability of exactly! Folk always want someone or the victim to take accountability for others actions that caused them to react/respond. There are many people who like Amanda. Just like this commenter said, Amanda needs to be amongst people of her caliber and those who appreciate her authenticity and value.
@@Eyesunmoonstars If a person goes through their life and is consistently a victim of something, then at some point they have to take accountability for why that is…rather than blaming everything and everyone. If I’m constantly running through rose bushes, I can’t blame the thorns for why I’m always bleeding.
@@tunitune777 so if a person goes through life being bullied and teased because they have one leg, it is ultimately up to them to reassess why they have one leg in oppose to two and question whether or not their inadequacies are offending others and some how try to get a second leg as to appease others so they can therefore be likable? 😒
This is how your statement sounds. You want to change others into who YOU want them to be for YOU. That’s not going to happen. People are exactly that. Different. We are not a monolith. You either accept or reject. Amanda knows who she is and accepts that. She has done nothing wrong. Her using her brain to think, interpret and understand is a part of her makeup. She has been victimized in many ways and she has a right to express her feelings about it. There is no need to shame her for being a victim and saying it’s her own fault. No matter is it happened once, twice, or nine hundred times. We have to normalize holding the antagonist and bully accountable. Not telling the victim to internalize and embrace the damn bullying.
@@Eyesunmoonstars you missed the point.
With all due respect to people who experience trauma, the world doesn't owe you understanding. You have to be aware enough to get help or your family and friends have to intervene at some point. U also have to be able to read the room sometimes. Every body does not have to rock with you. U have to find your own tribe sometimes. I find it interesting that she was dating someone not too long ago and then they were over. I don't really know anyone like Amanda but she seems pretty draining. And all this acknowledgement she's looking for is just weird to me
True. I feel Amanda is misunderstood and rubs ppl the wrong way and having autism she doesn't understand what she did and it's frustrating her
@trollallday151 Thats the thing. In the interview with SS she tells us that people have told her what they dont like about her. She knows what bothers people and shes like...welp anyway... Even when the publicist offered to twll her why she didn't like Amanda, she hung up on her. Its not like shes in the dark here. Amanda doesnt want to compromise on anything. I feel for her because shes screaming for validation from her peers and people have done her grimy but i also think her ego is so big and she uses her intellect as a defense mechanism.
@@theroguey1 and I get that and as an adult she's gotta grow up but I feel the autism plays a role in it even tho it's not severe. They are tone def to their actions and your feelings towards their actions. People with asperger's are the same way and it is frustrating they don't get the point of their ways. I worked with a girl once and almost went into anger w/ her, but when I realized not to expect maturity from her like a normal mental functioning person I learned how to operate with her. But I'd never wanna do it again. It's like they in their own heads and they play a lead role they don't have
Totally weaponizes her intellect
@@trollallday151 Absolutely, my only counter to that point is that Amanda is fully aware of the things people dont like, and because she finds it ridiculous she doesnt tweak her approach. Her brain may inherently process things differently, but she can train herself to modify certain decisions she makes. This is an extreme example, but a psychpath can't feel empathy , but with training they can mimic it in situations they've learned/studied need it. Like saying sorry for your loss at a funeral even if you dont feel for the person grieving. Amanda has to learn this for her personal and professional relationships. And if she doesnt want to do that, then fine just take the rest of us out of the group chat lol
Issa has shared her background, and she’s just as boujee as she perceives Amanda to be 😂 The only differences are skin tone and grade of hair. So there may be another aspect to this.
I never understood the phenomenon of disliking a person that YOU DON'T KNOW! WTF
This girl been talking about this same party for a long time. Must've been a hell of a party, because Amanda been trying to get in that Thang and it's been OVER.
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She had her Master’s in African American Studies. Why wouldn’t she want to be around our people?
Right like damn let it go
It called trauma, you shouldn't make fun of someone trauma
Im so confused as to why Amanda didn’t realize early on that Issa not stepping in spoke louder. I can’t imagine my publicist doing all of this without my co-sign. 😅
Agreed. Issa seems like someone who can't deal with conflict. If Amanda's behaviour was causing issues she, being the boss, should have said something to her. It looks like she complains to other people like her publicist and lets them do whatever. How do you let an employee of yours treat another employee that works on your show like that? You're the one who should talk to them to make sure there isn't a hostile environment at work. If Issa set boundaries with her publicist and spoke to Amanda bluntly maybe none of this would have happened.
Why would you be confused when she stated that her autism makes her oblivious to social cues?
Autistic people don’t pick up social Que my little son is like that he had two friends who played in his face low key was mean in a passive way and I had to step in and teach him what to look for. It’s hard being different as a mom it breaks you to see your child struggling. They are also so plain spoken because there is no gray area in the way they see things it’s right or wrong
I get this feeling that Issa didn’t like Amanda and was feeling a type of way because Amanda asked to publicly correct the credit of her show on Issa channel.
Let’s be real… very successful people get where they are by being shady and sneaky. That’s Issa.
A lot of very successful people. . . .but surely NOT all . . . . my parents maintained their integrity every turn of every corner leading to success. ❤
How do you know? Do you know her?
Chileee. I'm really starting to think Amanda is the problem. She had issues when she was in Floetry for 3 seconds, she had drama when she was on The Real and she had issues when she was on the show Insecure. What's the common denominator? Hmmm 🤔
Right she has a problem with EVERYONE
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Maybe, most people are a piece of crap.
Right!!
Maybe people don't like someone who's outspoken and stand up for themselves
I agree.
Now knowing Amanda is diagnosed autistic so much more makes sense about her personality
How exactly? I don’t know all the personality traits of ASD.
@@jasminejohnson2182 autistic people have trouble reading a room and social ques. She has possible misread people and like wise people misunderstood her. It causes frustrations from both parties. I think if you are neurotypical and you know the person you are conversing with is neurodivergent then you give allowances to their behaviours , but if you don’t know she’s neurodivergent she may come across as rude or abrasive or abrupt.
shes self diagnosed
That she's unlikable. That's unrelated to being autistic. Amanda's personality isn't being autistic, she just seems very unlikable, in a haughty know it all manner.
Autistic AKA narcissistic? That I do believe.
I absolutely adore Amanda she's an educated black woman and sometimes a person can feel intimidated by that . I don't take Amanda as being a mean girl I have noticed she's outspoken and passionate about black culture.Issa might be a little intimidated by that. Me personally I feel they're two intelligent women who need to support each other because we as African Americans have enough going on to be dealing with not liking each other grow up and support each other..
Issa graduated from Stanford. She is not intimidated by the very eloquent Amanda S. They are both very intelligent women.
I worked at Coty when Issa was hired as a Covergirl. Issa is not that nice of a person
My friend met her before and she said the same thing
Wow. Interesting, I really thought she’d be nice.
My friend met her and said she was really nice
Maybe she’s just protecting herself from the influx of people who believe themselves to be her friend just because they watch her on T.V
I met her back when she was doing Misadventures and she was actually really nice 🤷🏾♀️
Some people suck! It is what it is 🤷🏿♀️
Amanda isn't one of them.
Amanda has talent yet her being on the spectrum creates a different perspective. Perhaps this can be used as a teachable moment and normalize the conversation around neurodivergence and mental health 💚 and not just celeb gossip and banter
Yes people on the autism spectrum have a hard time getting along with others they are often misunderstood or creating a problem when there isn't really a problem
@@katpeterson7895 agreed! My heart goes out to Amanda and others who have to fight similar battles to be understood
Such a good point!
@@TheEllejohnson thank you . Spread the love 💚🙂
I hope so too, i think my moms Nuerodivergent , and she comes off Mad Narcissistic, but i dont think its NPD, cause she pretty thioughtful and compassionate, but man she be in her feelingsn and never wrong !😮 it be a wild ride all the time
It's something about Issa Ray I don't like.....
Issa mystery....
Issa is so distraught that you would think that of her!
@@RDCFemmesWhy do you assume people care what Issa would think? 😂 We can have opinions on her without caring what she thinks of it 😂
@@RDCFemmes Clearly you are lmao.....
Thought it was just me...
I personally do believe that Amanda is Neurodivergent. Once she accounts her experiences and really thinking back to some of her social issues in the past, I can see that.
I sooo hope Issa does not respond to this mess in and way….let Amanda go somewhere and heal😐
Issa is going to be getting the oprah treatment from the black community.
When you’re in a position of power, it’s hard for you to respond, folks will side with the victim without honest review. Katt Williams alluded to this in his interview.
I bet she won't! She got bigger fish to fry and don't have time for Amanda's shenanigans!
The point should be about her being “liked” Both Amanda and the Publicist are Issa’s employees. Issa allowed one employee to alienate the other to the point that Amanda got hands layed in her at a party. That’s WILD.
That's valid. I would be feeling some type away myself. It's an awkward position for both ladies.
I remember a woman who was interviewing in red carpets talking about Halle Berry and how sometimes "the team" doesn't do the job because they really don't know the culture. Same with Denzel Washington talking about a director for a movie "Fences" I believe.
Sometimes, you do have to intervene and say no it's not how it supposed to be and apparently, an apparence on Amanda's Small Doses podcast wasn't enough to make amends or to try to dissociate herself from her team in which belongs the publicist. It might be business but it is an extension of who you are.
Halle Berry didn't forget, neither did Denzel. This black skin never disappears but deals do.
I'm really hurt to learn about this, not only for Amanda but for Issa also, because regardless of how she must have felt, it seems like she didn't have enough courage or empathy to call herself out on her own bs and when you do this, personnally for me, you are losing your soul.
Saying you are for "everything black" but then staying quiet in close settings. No, if you are quiet, be that in all places and if you are loud, be that in all places. Don't change to please people, real people are supposed to welcome you as a whole.
Gurl bye! Amnda is the prob!
Amanda is just unlikable. She always tries too hard to prove that she is so brilliant, and is just combative for no reason at times and always creates drama with everything. She is so exhausting. I can't with her.
Yet, you’re on this thread commenting about her. I don’t get it.
@@lisam.w.anonymous3690 That’s what people do in comment sections…..people will say what they think and want to say. Chile.😭🤦🏽♀️
Amanda is brilliant and talented and beautiful, and on and on....
@@lisam.w.anonymous3690so you dropped this response on everybody who has a bad comment abt Amanda.... wait... Amanda is that you? girl, go get that autism test please....
Exactly
To me, Amanda gives Tiffany hardish vibes, one moment she is cool and the next she is all over the place, being obnoxious and annoying.
We all watched the Real, she had an issue with everyone on that show and was always complaining about something 😫😫
So l am not surprised, the stuff on insecure doesn’t like her or doesn’t want to be around her
She has a character flaw but she is still human and needs to change and come down if she wants to win with This Hollywood game
What AS said didn’t change my view of Issa. She explained it eloquently.
Glad Amanda had the chance to speak on everything. I thought it was an excellent interview. It's clear that many of those commenting didn't actually watch (most or all of it).
Sorry SS doesn’t have the range to converse with ppl not in sports IMO.
It irked me all the push back he gave her, because I saw his Desi Banks interview.
Lailah God bless you for this Vidoe. I literally came here for gossip but something you said just led me straight to researching the major issue I have with in my marriage. When you mention Amanda's autism being a possible cause for her not picking social cues. Literally let me to a rabbit hole and boom, researching Autism in Adults for the past few hours has brought in plain sight what is happening with my husband.
Thank you
When I first heard about the things issas agent was doing and her not wanting 2 get involved I instantly knew that she didn't like Amanda and sadly Amanda didn't get that
I'm so tired of "friends" wanting you to fall along with them when they make bad decisions. I'm loyal! No one messes with my friends in front of me. However, if someone constantly cuts up in public or rubs people the wrong way, why are you expected to risk it all to protect them?
I have a daughter that is on the spectrum as well, so I can see why Amanda did not recognize that she was dislike by some of the people around her. Amanda goes hard for us, wants us to be accountable, and some of us have a serious problem with that. I am not on the spectrum, and I have seen this scenario play out all through my life. Kudos to Amanda for putting it on front street.
Amanda is self diagnosed!
I have coworkers I don't particularly care for but I don't mistreat or disrespect them. Love Issa but she wrong. It's makes me side eye blk ppl who claim pro blk but .mistreat them.
I don't get how Issa is responsible for her publicist liking or not liking someone. We all have worked with ppl that we don't like. As long as they're not actively impeding our ability to do our job, we just have to co-exist. Issa's publicist threw that party, not Issa ..so why would the publicist invite someone that she didn't like. Also....lets look at the work history. We've never heard anything but positive things about Issa w/every project she's been on. Just bcz she and Amanda didn't like each other, doesn't make Issa the problem. This is weird and does seem like Amanda is making herself the victim in this. Now what if the entire cast of Insecure comes forward on Issa's behalf...with receipts, I wonder what Amanda's rebuttal will be.
Amanda is insufferable and is too narcissistic to realize that she is her own worst enemy. She doesnt see that the reason that so many doors are closing in her face is because she is brash, patronizing, and self centered. She fails at being introspective and that is what will help with her ability to coexist in the industry or any work environment. I havent even worked with her and even still I would not want to work with her. She is a magnet of negative energy.
I agree!
It's Issa's problem when, as "the boss," she allows her employees to create a hostile work environment for others.
@@mariak6470 see that's where I disagree. The party was not a work environment. It was not an Insecure party. It had no official ties to the set. Publicists have multiple clients and multiple events. Amanda advised us that this took place offset and bcz no one addressed it onset she felt ostracized. That's like you and a coworker getting into it outside of work and you expecting your manager to mediate a resolution for something that has nothing to do with the actual work place.Also, I find it interesting that back when the party incident happened Amanda went on IG and said ppl from Insecure cast saw it happen and didn't step in. Now on Shannon's show, she said there weren't any cast members there that witnessed what happened, just ppl that she knew. I do sympathize with Amanda regarding the physical assault & humiliation from the body guards but if I were her, I'd have my attorney handle that part ...And I would have had a real conversation with Vanessa to find out why she really didn't like me. No way for a resolution without both parties being heard.
She's a professional victim
And there is very little accountability. It's exhausting.
Yes 👏🏾 that true
Seems like if she doesn’t get her way then everyone is against her and she is the victim 🙄🙄
Hi! I can see how you could come to that conclusion; I really do. However, we can say that black men are more prone to being professional victims. There is little to no accountability among an alarming number of them (of course, not all). For example, when they blame single mothers and welfare for "taking the black man out of the house" rather than holding the MEN WHO CHOOSE TO ABANDON THEIR FAMILIES accountable. Another example is how Chris Brown is given grace by black men (and many black women) for his DV incident with Rihanna and his manic behavior. Still, Amanda is considered combative while passionately voicing her opinions, in part due to her neurodivergence and late ADHD diagnosis.
I will always give grace to black women while still holding them accountable; even to black women who I consider insufferable, such as Amanda. I extend this grace because others do NOT have any grace for us, whether blunt and abrasive as Amanda or meek, docile, or submissive. I understand that this interview is about Amanda, so we are discussing Amanda and not black men, and I am not trying to further any "gender war." I just wanted to make a distinction. Sorry for the long comment, too. 🙂
No compassion
@@Trillary_Banksthey are professional victims 😂. There absolutely no accountability whatsoever with both parties
I feel like I'm missing something. How is it Issa's fault that the person who was throwing the party didn't want to let Amanda in. Just because you're someone's boss you can't force them to do something outside of work🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I don't feel she gave any real examples of Issa being mean to her, she wanted Issa to vouch/stand up for her, but that's not her responsibility.
Also, why is it we have heard of negative things from a lot of people about Amanda, but not much about Issa.
She actually did. She created content and Issa put it on her website and took credit for it. When asked for her to tweet that the show actually belonged to Amanda, she didn’t. That’s enough to cause a major rift in any personal or professional relationship. It’s foul.
@@2BGMediathank you for the comment. I agree.
@@2BGMedia Why would Issa need to put out a message that it's Amanda content. Other networks or companies don't do that. Amanda could have easily put that message out herself. Why is there an expectation of what others need to do for you.
Also, if she was so bad, why continue to work with her, because she was also using Issa to her own advantage. Issa has never spoken ill about Amanda, at least publicly.
@@2023NoThanks Because a lot of undue credit was being given to Issa when she had no hand in it other than letting it be posted to her platform for visibility. Imagine someone get credit for your work. If you tell everyone "hey no, it's my work" that will not be well received, it's better for the person getting the praise to shine the light on you instead. That's why she asked and didn't do it herself.
And she didn't say Issa was bad, she said she felt she didn't stick up for her and mediate the situation properly. What it made was an uncomfortable work environment, not an unbearable one. And how was she using Issa, she's an actress on her show. That's like saying you're using your company/boss. That's not using, that's working and having a livelihood.
Where she was wrong was not properly following through with the convo when the publicist called back to hash things out. That's not on Issa and further cemented an ill will towards her.
@@Bree5three While I understand what you are saying, I still disagree. I have worked at many companies where they take credit for my work, and when I don't feel valued take the skills and what I have gained from that role and move on to other opportunities. There's always a gain, but people don't view it that way.
It's obvious from some of these comments that folks don't know the characteristics of someone with Autistic Spectrum Disorder or Aspbergers🤷🏾♀️
I know & have worked with many kind, non condescending non full of themselves selves people with ASD or Asperger’s. Amanda is on a different level. Maybe she can’t read social cues but she is rude & nasty. Now she’s not working & wants to blame the DX no ma’am it’s her nasty attitude.
My clients that are clinically diagnosed take accountability for their behavior and don't expect others to excuse their behavior either
@ForeverLuxeDesigns It's a spectrum disorder...no two folks are the same.
@@rjs1602 it amazes me how people cape for strangers they don't know personally, the celebrity worship is real
Girl Amanda ain’t so innocent and we don’t care. Can’t use that for sympathy now. Amanda cusses out fans and snaps on people all on instagram . She weird
Everybody is not wrong about Amanda. I wish she could grow, move on and realize that silence is golden. She might be right but you have to pick your battles because right now Amanda is losing on every side.
Love Amanda - she goes the best she can and her sincerity is heart warming
I believe Amanda, you can see they just didn't like her .
Amanda not picking up on social cues makes sense because of what she said on Club Shay Shay.
Why I gotta play the social cues game with my own people? That's why we can't get ahead.🖕🏿😢✊🏿
@@mykdebradley3586because we really are just that, “people”, flawed as any other group of people.
@@mykdebradley3586 this comment makes ZERO sense! 😂😂😂
@@LunchboxLex exactly.🤨
@@mykdebradley3586 you're not too bright, huh? You're agreeing with me that your comment doesn't make sense lol. How are social cues holding us back as a people? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The irony is it’s just like the women from Sex and the City. 3 of the women get along including the “star” SJP and then there’s Kim Catrall the outsider. I say I think Issa and Amanda seem like oil and water. Much like the two actresses behind SATC.
Relational aggression
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Amanda still got kicked out of the club and didn't know we'd come up her and they'd talk about sisterhood girl. Aint no sisterhood. It is money all about the money.
This is the second black celebrity that have spoken about other black celebrities and their non-black team treating them a certain way. Now everyone has the right to hire whom they want. But for Issa (Ms. “I am voting for anyone black”) to have a person working for you that’s not black to be so problematic, I am looking at Issa sideways.
I think if youre a person who is honest and genuine you need to get very comfortable having very few to zero friends. Friends are people you can be yourself with. Very few people like honest and genuine friends. They like people who tell them what they want to hear, laugh at their stupidity and call it just having fun. If you are a literal person who is not amused by stupidity in anyway most people will not like you. Because most people are not that bright.
I still don’t get the situation
Amanda is such a genius. So she should go and create her an show or what not and decides who she wants to hire and how she wants to run it. Issa Rae is literally everyone one of us. She's not some long-time industry insider or acting family etc. She's self-made. So Amanda needs to also go and be self-made.
Remember too the dynamic between Issa and Amanda‘s friendship on the show, she never really seem to like Amanda even within their friendship. It was constantly discussions about ditching her or her being a nuisance or trying to get a break away from her.
It definitely was not like that on the show. Lol they were all great friends. Issa brother didnt care for Kelli. But the girls were the best of friendss. There was an episode when Amanda was missing and all the girls came together to find her. There was never any negative energy pushed on Amandas character in Insecure. Now off screen ??? Im sure there was.
Yes they were fake friends on the show, lol and it wasn't playful banter like ahmad and kelly. It was clear that issas character was annoyed by Amandas character 🤷🏽♀️
I'm so confused... if Issa didn't like her in real life why did she hire her??? Also I can relate 100% I had a black woman boss that was a mean girl and it was one of the most hurtful unprofessional experiences I ever had in the work place!!!
Even if Issa wanted to not get involved, if your “friend” is causing trouble at your workplace you tell them it’s unacceptable if it is. She must not like Amanda or is addicted to drama.
I love Issa and her work but I do not like how there is no sister code. Issa happily put on black men who do not even date black women but fails to ride for her sister.
Amanda can keep "exposing " and she will have nothing. We all deal with unfortunate ppl/situations. Making it your 24/7 thing to rant and get a crowd is unbecoming. But go off in the name of whatever she think is good. Everywhere she goes shes got a looooud grievance and bridge to burn.
Did you say the same about Katt Williams if you watched.
@@FIT2BETIED100 no bc katt doesnt sit on ig all day creating chaos and confusion and constantly doing interviews about other ppl. His interview with shannon was his primary one swinging back on ppl who wrote him off and called him crazy and crackhead. ALL amanda does is find fault and come in super hard and mean about everything. She trashed the view when she left. No friends from insecure and on and on. She's never wrong or accountable just the know it all victim. Its exhausting for those who can support some of what she says. She has valid points sometimes, but her delivery muddies the message.
@@eebz5 Hi there! I respect your opinion and can see why you feel like you do. Many of Amanda's personality traits rub people, such as yourself, the wrong way. However, I can't entirely agree with your assessment of how Kat Williams is different.
It's interesting to note that when a man such as Katt Williams expresses his opinions with a harsh and aggressive delivery, he is often seen as confident, assertive, and "speaking the truth" (without any concrete evidence other than his words). However, when a woman (especially a black woman) does the same thing, she is often criticized as being a "professional victim," hostile, and "always complaining." This double standard can make it difficult for women to speak out on prominent issues and can reinforce the idea that women should be seen and not heard, and our experiences/feelings are not valid. It's essential to recognize that everyone has a right to express their opinions and that we should judge people based on the content of their message rather than how it is delivered. Have you considered that Amanda uses that delivery because she feels unheard, and her opinions are not taken seriously?
Some people feel that Amanda's delivery is necessary to expose social and political issues that should be discussed. Other people give her grace in her delivery because they can empathize with how neurodivergence and ADHD can cause people like Amanda to have blunt deliveries while not emoting like neurotypical people. How would you address those who claim that her outspokenness, despite her abrasive delivery, is a necessary response to societal inequalities?
She’s the female version of Shaun King and most definitely a narc and betting on people’s self righteousness in the form of parasocialism.
I believe Amanda I understand she has a big strong personality but she still deserves respect you don’t have to like everyone but you don’t have to be nasty and disrespectful towards them give everyone the human decency they deserve
I see what Amanda was talking about when she said that there was no way she could be a mean girl because for example, Britney Spears younger sister was on a Nickelodeon show or like a Disney show and that little girl was mean to the another to a cast member and they were allowing that behavior becauseBritney Spears sister was like this. I think she was like the star of the show so so I know what Amanda is talking about when she says there’s no way she could be a mean girl because she wasn’t in that position to be one. Also what you said about Isa I feel like it’s kind of true because the second Amanda said oh well Isa was there when all that stuff was going on at that party Lisa didn’t really do much. She didn’t really have Amanda‘s back but she was like oh I’m not getting into this and then her experience onset of insecure Lisa just everybody was kind of ganging up on Amanda, sometimes Black people will do that to our lighter skin person who wants to fit into the black group they’ll like kinda like low-key like gang up on that person and that person didn’t even do anything to them in the first place. But yeah Isa was giving whatever that has nothing to do with me.
Amanda is a no for me…my hope is that she looks further inward and learns to accept herself first. She is always the common denominator and I’ve learned that unless you’re my mother, sister or daughter I am not going harder for another woman than what she’s willing to do for herself 🤷🏾♀️
Tethers Squabbling😂😂👍🏾
YEP da lime n da coconut lol!!!
Issa better not respond to this nonsense!
I agree with your break down!
I have been waiting for your breakdown of this. That interview exhausted me. I did not have the mental capacity to entertain the long suffering victim who weaponized a disability for her own benefit.
I completely agree. I went to read the comments on the Shay Shay interview and most people were siding with Amanda Seals. We are living in the Twilight Zone I'm sure of it
@@thebolbI seen ppl disagreeing with her and wishing that she’d shut up
@@thebolb I side with her on the Issa thing definitely. Issa feels like she's someone who wants to be tight with her cast and I think if Yvonne, Jay, or Kendrick (Nathan in the show) were kicked out of a party or were beefing with her publicist she's absolutely step in. So something told me she really wasn't feeling Amanda. It's giving Issa let the publicist take the fall for her true feelings but playing in Amanda's face like they're good. Nope, tell her what it is or write off her character if you can't deal. I suppose it's hard to justify disliking someone when they've never done anything ethically wrong to you, y'all just don't vibe.
Weaponizibg a disability she doesn't even know she truly has. Amanda needs to get a professional diagnosis.
I need detailed examples of Issa "coming out of her face". Right now it seems like a boss and employee with different personalities. 1 wanted to be in the friend circle the other kept boundaries...happens everyday in 9-5 jobs. .make your money, go home and hang iut with your actual friends
AMANDAAAAAA...GO LAY DOWN!!!!
Dirt Nap please
I think Amanda is unlikeable, but Issa should have treated her more professionally or fire her.
Her role on insecure was useless, I don't even remermer her storyline
I agree with everything you are saying! I thought the same thing when i heard about these different situations between them. Issa Raye just didn't like her. Her actions said everything.
The publicist was giving her a warning so she could correct her behavior, if she knows then everybody on that project knows. If the entire cast got an issue then you need to look at yourself. She's not saying why these people are calling her out. Issa should have been more blunt, being the boss and it should have came out of her instead of the publicist cause that makes you look weak as a boss.
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Hello Lailah and commenters.
Narcissistic narratives typically follow a predictable pattern: individuals cast themselves as either perpetual victims or heroes, yet consistently overlook their own shortcomings. Amanda is undeniably brilliant-a fact she highlighted repeatedly during the interview-yet her pronounced narcissistic traits are just as clear. It's important to recognize that we all fall somewhere on the narcissistic spectrum, with many highly successful individuals displaying significant levels. Challenges arise when those at the higher end of this spectrum struggle to manage their narcissism effectively. Their behavior can become so conflict-ridden that it severely impacts their interactions with others. Although I am not a mental health professional, I believe Amanda would greatly benefit from exploring Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and engaging in targeted therapy to better manage these traits. Additionally, she might also benefit from evaluating the possibility of bipolar mood disorder.
If Issa didn't like Amanda, why continue to have Amanda working for her? Makes NO sense. Amanda and Vanessa are HER employees and she needs to step in if an assault is happening because of Vanessa.
I agree with your take on it
I watched the whole interview and it was really good. Everything about her makes sense now. I implore every one in the comments to watch before you judge. That whole party situation sounded horrible. Issa being the boss did not handle that situation well. I've dealt with adults with autism and I can tell you it's not easy. It can get under your skin and on your nerves a lot. Only because you are looking at this adult person to behave a certain way, but it's honestly not clicking. So I get it with Amanda now.
Amanda Seals acts nothing like that character on Insecure from what I’ve seen. On Insecure she had to look perfect, be perfect. Her character (Tiffany) would’ve never walked around like how Amanda be with the talks of life and nature. I just think Issa just didn’t like her. I would love to be able to take up for Issa but I’ve kind of seen a side of her that I don’t like as much. She can come off as mean. I noticed that a couple years ago when they were like on a red carpet and I was disappointed in Issa’s attitude . Idk either of them personally so maybe that’s just what I’m feeling but who knows 🤷🏽♀️
Some may appear as mean girls because their personality may not align with others! Social awkwardness, that other person may react and then the so call mean girl becomes defensive, and then appears to occupy that role . In reality, they’re putting up their protective shield. Once it becomes a defense mechanism then there’s war the boss is supposed to identify these things, mediate and ensure that everybody has a pleasant workspace!
Excellent point.And I believe there are a lot more alike than they are different. Both of them have on the same protective armor.
Why keep Amanda on the show if the publicist was disseminating information on behalf of Issa. This whole situation could have avoided by Issa given that she is the employer.
You don't have to like someone sometimes personalities don't match. However, if these women that are in the industry want to live in their black girl magic black woman empowerment movement. It's hypocritical of them to out someone just because they don't like their personality.
I just cant get with Amanda seals and her accounts of situations, she often acts out and then blames it on environmental circumstances. It's just very weird how much she finds herself in troubling situations. if she is truly autistic and knows she has trouble engaging with others she needs to have a caretaker with her in social setting to help her grasp the vibe in the rooms she's in.
Now everybody hates Issa? Lmaooo Foh. Amanda went to that party knowing the woman throwing it doesn’t like her. Is that not picking a fight??
Please refer to the comments Issa made about Lauren London and compare that to Amanda Seales experience. Does Issa have a complex, calling certain women "bougie" and so forth based on something as superficial as their looks? I hope not because I like her and Black comes in all shades, sizes, and attitudes.
Typical, let's be real.
Issa's father was a doctor, and she grew up in Baldwin Hills. She is literally joking when she calls people Boujie. Lauren London is from the hood and a broken home.
You have to live in Los Angeles to really understand why she speaks like that.People won't get it 😅
Amanda has so much potential! I love her, her ideas, the way she describes her experiences but I think part of her personality is SO “strong” or too serious. For example, I like to express I know a lot but when I get the vibe people think I’m a know it all I always balance it with something dumb or silly or I get super quiet so others don’t figure me out. It’s so traumatic needing to constantly prove yourself but I truly hope she focuses on her own lane, podcast, and even hires a production team so she can get major contracts. She speaks her mind and not a lot of people can handle that. I respect her even when I don’t always agree with her. Hopefully this brought her closure ♥️
Waitttt she just admitted to not being neurodivergent 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah.
My God how many cues do you need before you oick up on what simeone is trying yo tell you.
I don't know if anybody else has seen the change in Issa Rae after her look changed before Season 3 when she lost weight and wasn't The Awkward Girl anymore. And it's fine because she received so much attention and that will change a person. She could've easily fixed the issue with that lady that had a problem with Amanda but she didn't want to because she was part of it. All they had to do was keep it professional. It's not easy being around a bunch of females that feel a certain way about you. And just because it happens to her a lot doesn't mean that she is the problem. Black women are some of the most jealous people when it comes to other Black women. That's why we can't even go on vacations together for fear of being attacked by our own friends. It's really sick.
I’m afraid she’s right. Issa’s a passive aggressive Libra Moon 🤷🏾♀️
True but amanda has a libra stellium and she's also a cancer sun cancer moon with a mars in gemini. They clash, because they're very similar.
@@UrbanAlchemystic No she has a stellium w/ sun, moon, and mercury
Amanda’s theatrics should tell u all what u need to know 😂😂
Nothing Amanda said makes me think she shouldn't be at major black events. I mean...consider the things that many of the attendees have been rumored to be involved in for decades. Amanda seems to have a tendency to stand up for what's right, & that doesn't ride in Hollywood.
Yeah a strong sense of justice is big for neurodivergent folks.
I love Amanda and I love Issa. What everyone is missing is None of the ladies, especially Issa have not said one disparaging word about Amanda. Issa is not a mean girl. At all. But I know Amanda hasn’t been easy to work with for a number of reasons. It’s a collective of women, not just Issa who are protecting Amanda, unwilling to share the truth behind the scenes and though getting torn to shreds in the public, will not respond to tearing her down…and we should appreciate Issa not willing to make this a Katt vs. Everyone event. Wishing Amanda a peaceful resolve. All these pubic beefs are getting out of hand.
Amanda needs to put her big girl panties on and realize, she's NOT entitled for everyone to like her. From her own stories, it seem like she just can't take the hint that certain people don't F with her. And the way she's passive aggressively trying to throw Issa under the bus, is exactly why Issa didn't want to get involved with her superficial BS drama to begin with. Amanda is too damn grown not to handle her own petty conflicts, and to put everything on front street. She's not blackballed, everyone just sees her as unstable.
Amanda is eventually going to have to learn “the power of being disliked” and remaining authentic to herself.
Those who like her, will accept her for who she is. Bottom line: not everyone is going to like you and you have to accept and respect that and rock w the people who rock with you.
Amanda put Issa on a pedestal because Amanda loves Black success and excellence and she found out Issa was human. But Amanda needs to find a lane and stay in it. Is she an actress? is she a comedian? is she an activist? She is talented and smart and I think she is just at a crossroads in her career and maybe her personal life. I personally think she should have declined the SS interview, it didn’t hurt her brand but it didn’t help it either.
Did y’all think for one minute that Issa Rae, who’s privy to both sides of Amanda’s MANY beefs, thinks that Amanda deserves the heat? Why would Issa defend someone who she feels throws rocks and hides her hands??
This is definitely a social queue moment. She just never was able to pick up until later that she was not liked personally.
Amanda is delusional and a narc manipulator. She had gotten in a whirlwind of trouble online before her book release AND the Oscar party. She was technically canceled and cancer in the industry. ALL show executives considered not bringing her back for season 4 or 5 because of all the NEGATIVE publicity Amanda brought to herself outside the show and before the Oscar party issue. I find it amazing how Amanda magically forgets to add that part to the story. If I can recall, it was a backlash from her accusing Neurosurgeon Myron of "Grape" because she was TOLD by another woman that he answered his door in a towel upon that woman's first visit.
This was a good balanced review/reaction. I'm tired of people just attacking this woman because of their assumptions. She ain't perfect and she knows it. She just knows what she knows and she stands strong when she knows she's right.
Amanda and Carmichael need to get together and disappear
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Yikes
Facts!!! They are just untalented people that want to use the victim card and the next victim card and then the next victim card
@@tratrazy1633lol