Literally a coward who threw away thousands of years of monarchs keeping the crown because he was well off on his own. You're the type of person who'd believe King Charles killed his own people to ensure "Liberty and Freedom" because he said so. People can lie? Impossible! Why would corrupt people lie?
@@zawarudo596 ... Wait, an ousted king saying no violence should be used to restore him to power is like a king who was involved in a massive civil war and was killed after a trial later? .... and honestly, Manuel II believing in Portugol lots, but not wanting to spend Portuguese lives just to return himself to power is like a believable position of a failed king who inheirted a mess. Killing his way back would not have solved his problems enough.
He was descendent from the Queen Victoria from UK, when things got tricky before someone try to kill him he left to the UK, and he had a lot of british status like "Royal Victorian Order" and stuff, british monarchy gave him a palace and free money for the rest of is life... that why he didint care much about Portugal. He end up diying in 1932 with 42yo
GB: We've been friends for quite a while, right Portugal? Portugal: Well yes I supose we have. GB: *Draws service revolver* So how about you hand over some of that land in Africa as a gesture of friendship.
Ned Steven it was good for portugal actualy. Angola mozambique and all the other portugal colonies were more than enough for portugal small population. And it will have become independant 70 years later anyways 😂
Filipe Moreira Filipe Moreira uk which included ireland at the time had about 8 times portugal population And i dont call macao and timor oriental a empire 😂 altho angola and mozambique was a bit late in the independance actions. And macao and timor oriental are independant countries now since 20+ years Uk still own lands in the carabian. Atlantic (falkland island) pacific indian ocean. And mediteranian (gibraltar). Its called the 14 uk overseas territory. So uk is still an empire having land on all part of the globe. While portugal do not
Filipe Moreira also why are you placing your ego on history. You didnt do anything that deserve pride. Its the very specific individual portuguese dudes that made the portuguese colonization that deserve congratulation. Not you. You might be the biggest ssstttuuppidest loosser ever portugal has So dont place you ego in history. Its just make you look like a dude who has no self estim and try to build confidence on what other people did just because they share same passport
@Peter Cox in French that’s correct, you don’t pronounce the s in “Louis”. But Portuguese and Spanish (to my knowledge, correct me if wrong) are phonetic languages, meaning you pronounce all the letters, and can usually determine pronunciation from spelling.
There is a verse in the Portuguese anthem that goes "Against the cannons march, march". It was originally "Against the British, march, march". Wonder how that would have turned out
@@scottydu81 Most of them are. The US anthem is about a battle with the British. The French anthem speaks of "watering the fields with impure blood" and was created during the Franco-Prussian War.
@@TugaAvenger French anthem dates back from the french revolution period around 1790 and references the other royalist armies of europe trying to put it down
@Kaiser Wilhelm II Not all people are born and raised to be fluent in english, Herr Kaiser. Please forgive him with your power of being Victorias Grandchild
Portugal was the third european country to overthrow their king? since when did Switzerland had a king? edit: ( can we have a video about how Switzerland gained a Republic? I am intrested now )
Switzerland was part of the HRE until 1648 when they gained legal independence under the Treaty of Westphalia and then again in 1815 under the Congress of Vienna they were declared independent from the First French Empire.
idk too much about all swiss history butttt i think he's talking about how they were part of the HRE which had a King, and they revolted and made their own country
Well they were parts of Habsburg monarchy untill death of Emperor Rudolf I Habsburg, then they rebelled and formed Old Confederacy consisting of cities and cantons. So they kinda overthrown their King.
@@rtsgod The HRE had, well, an Emperor. But Switzerland was _reichsfrei_ . They were pretty much autonomous. The Habsburgs later tried to take that privilege from them, leading to revolution.
@@FireRayquaza24 Huzzah. Such an overflow of exquisite and refined language, molded as to form a scalpel-like criticism which doth assist me in mine progress. Translation for McCringe: very constructive, thank you. I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you've lost an occasion to keep your mouth shut.
@Mike Oxlong PT Nobody said "The Brazilian Empire". He said "our first emperor" because portugal used to rule Brazil, so they were the same nation for a very long time.
I feel the whole process started much earlier with the monarchy moving the capital to Brazil to flee from Napoleon and stay there for over a decade. Then, they lost their biggest colony of Brazil once they return to Europe, because of a family feud - leaving Portugal in a much weaker state than their former rivals.
Yes well, you have to apply Occam’s razor to establish a clear and cut cause. I would be even stricter than History Matters. The fall of the Monarchy began with the British move on the Portuguese African colonies.
It also didn’t help that every male member of the House of Braganza kept either dying or living and deciding for some reason in the name of God not to marry, or to marry and not have children. The contentious and well prepared Pedro V died in a epidemic and was replaced by the ineffective Luís I and later Carlos I, who was murdered, meaning you had two Kings whose reigns were stagnant. Manuel II was... he was the right man, because his reign came far too late
What you're saying is when Portugal went from an absolute monarchy to a constitutional one, in the first half of the XIX century, Portugal had 3 constitution (1822, 1826 and 1832), with a Civil war in the middle, and political turmoil until 1851. (They decided to use the Constitucional letter of 1826) Portugal entered the period we call "Regeneração" (Regeneration) where Portugal invested heavily in infrastructure, communications and industry to catch up with the rest of Europe. Although these were somewhat successful, they didn't produce the expected results, and Portugal entered a vicious circle where they kept taking on loans they couldn't afford. Portugal entered bankruptcy having to leave the gold standard, and negotiating how to pay the loans, in the Crises of 1891-1892, this and the unhappiness with the political system that was either one party or the other made the Portuguese take action.
Portuguese Republicans: Our king is too pro British, we hate Britain for taking advantage of us. Britain: Yo, Portugal want to come fight in the Great War Portuguese Republicans: 😏
The truth is that Portugal did not behave itself as neutral country. When Portugal complies with the British request to confiscate the German ships interned in Portuguese ports, Germany reacts by declaring war on Portugal, thus forcing the Portuguese officially into the war.
@Schnitzelreich I would've thought they preffered neutraility rather than joining the Germans outright, especially since the Germans wouldnt be able to help them if they did join
Frist Name Last Name well, we have been thankfull all these centuries for these 400 archers.... btw, the portuguese many times are bigger then they think. That battle was the first prove of it, but yes, we do thank you for the help. It was in a important moment and stabilized the independence almost 800 years ago, when Spain was still a project.
I expected "to Manuel II, whose name definitely didn't have an "o" in it. " EDIT: I thought "Manoel" was more common than "Manuel" in Portugal, but apparently I was wrong.
@@ixlnxs what have you been smoking, mate?!... This is not Spain, the most common way to write that name on Portuguese was Manuel and still is. We had a movie director called Manoel de Oliveira, but he was part of a tiny minority.
Fun fact: The portuguese anthem's chorus has a part that goes "Against the cannons, we march". This anthem was composed for a play in 1890. The original was "Against the brittons we march"
it should be replaced by "the worst allies in history". Even after expeling the Napoleonic forces from our country brits stole almost all the remains of our churches gold and plunder the country. then come the pink map ultimatum. after the brexit. so now just leave us focking alone. Keep it to your corner, except when you're petted by your american owners, with the bless of the french navy and armorers to support the tea party club, a bunch of rurals who kicked his majesty bests out of the USA to be.
Fun fact, the national anthem of Portugal at one time (when the Republic was inaugurated) one part said "against the Brits, we march!" this part replaced "Brits" to "cannons" on later years
I LOVE how this channel focuses on empires/cultures from all over the world, not just the largest four or five from European history. Thanks mate, keep it up, greetings from Toronto, Canada.
Saguntum-Iberian-Greek Konstantinopoli With the Hearts of Iron IV DLC „La Résistance“ you get the optional restore the monarchy and even creating a dual Monarchy between Brazil and Portugal
@@joao_1986 laughs in +1000 manpower a month and the entire Brazilian navy. Seriously tho I'm happy paradox made our monarchist tree so overpowered lmao
@@acharonim4659 Not a lot of bloodshed my guy. Portugal’s costly and disastrous colonial wars in Africa didn’t get going until after the fall of the monarchy
Se Deus quiseeeeeeeeeeeeer Há de brilaaaaaaaaaaar Denovo a corooooa sobre as lusas armas! Que a nossa pátria soube sempre honraaaaar Que a nossa pátria sobe sempre honraaaaaar
Interesting video on something I had never even considered! Feel Portugal is often overlooked by Spain in history terms so nice to know something about them!
If you're interested in Portugal take a look at anything you can find from our earlier history, from the 1100's to the 1580's especially. It's very interesting.
@@AlexMcNamee You'll be happy to know that because we're overshadowed so much, most of us really enjoy telling foreigners about our history. So feel free to ask
If I remember correctly from the history classes, Portugal didn’t give territory to England. We made a plan, called the Pink Map, to connect Angola to Mozambique. However, that was basically at the same time that GB was developing the plan to connect Cairo to Cape Town so, since it messed with their plans, we were aggressively asked to stand down.
Yes and no. We technically already occupied the areas in the Pink Map, due to Serpa Pinto's military expeditions. He withdrew after the British Ultimatum.
"The Prime Ministers were the king's friends and did as he asked but their parties had different names so were totally different." Hey, that sounds familiar for some reason.
In the TimeGhost video about what if the Nationalists had lost the Spanish Civil War some people commented that had a Nazi-aligned communist Spain invaded Portugal, the UK would have intervened on the basis of the medieval piece of paper, it got me a chuckle. Portugal was almost entirely useless to the British, it doesn't even border the Mediterranean, you can't close it off from the Atlantic from there-it would be just some extra coastline which the Axis wouldn't need anyway. There's no way they would have risked even a single British life trying to defend it.
Bullshit it is an Alliance still, a lot of military training gets done still between both nations, the UK generally aided the Portuguese whenever they needed help.
I really like your channel! I like these short one with so many answers to "I wonder why..." - I get the answers with bare-bones background information, and little else. Well done!
Also curiously, the proclamation of the Republic in Brazil in 1889, was a big influence to Portuguese Republicans. There were millions of Portuguese immigrants in Brazil, and many traveled between the two countries. There was even a early 20th century Portuguese president who was born in Brazil
Yes, but as history evolved, the same happened with the two republics. The Portuguese Republic became less and less a corporativist system (that is even more visible in the Third Republic), whereas Brazil actually didn't change a lot...
And now look at Brazil. Widespread corruption and gang capital of the world. There's uncountable amounts of videos of criminals burning people alive, eating human flesh & brain matter and killing women in front of their children. If only these people had a higher religious ideal to look up to... Oh wait they ousted the monarchy so I guess this is what they all wanted Brazil to end up like!
Portugal: ok lets throw out the monarchy because it’s led to a decline in our global Influence. Hoi4 players: aight imma restore the monarchy Portugal: Visible Confusion
Tbf in the HOI4 time in 1936, Portugal had just had it's 10th anniversary of the military dictatorship,aka "the second republic" and the 3rd of the "Estado Novo" Salazarist regime, both of which had succeeded one of if not THE most unstable republic in modern history. I'm sure the Portuguese people would be ok with a king
The United States was pretty successful, but to be fair, a colonial revolution is very different from one centered around a country's "core" territories.
@@starplatinumzahand8174 We also have the longest lasting democracy in the world, and our civil war was between two different republican democracies with different ideas of freedom. Considering we were and still are one of the world's leading superpowers, I think we've done alright. Not perfect, but alright.
Hot take: the blue and white Portuguese flag looks better than the modern green and red one. Though I like the astrolabe on the current flag better than the crown.
@@mr.anderson2241 Emm, not that much as you think it had. You see, in 1374 King Luis the Hungarian, to put his daughter on Polish throne, promised to the Nobility a little but too much. Next kings in XVth Century needed to accept another privileges, but in 1505 king Kazimierz Jagiellończyk made a ,,Nihil Novi" (lat. ,,nothing new") privilege, meaning that no new law will be accepted without an agreement of all Nobility. In XVIth Century Nobels were able to negotiate. We were expanding territorially, polliticaly, economically - on any kind of level (that's why we call XVIth Century ,,Gold Century" (,,Złoty wiek")), and Nobles we're proud of this ,, Nobilitian Democracy" - when in Europe Absolute Monarchy was getting more and more popular Polish-Lithuanian Nobels were calling Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth ,,Green Island" (,,Zielona Wyspa"), as we were standing out of totalitarism. As King Zigmunt the August said: ,,I'm not the king of your conscience" (,,Nie jestem królem sumień Waszych"). So everything was fine and great. By the time. In 1651 there was a first time when Sejm was broken without any kind of negotiations. That made us lose Chmielnicki's Up-Rising, so we lost an ability to co-rule the Russia. But that also made baronage even more corrupted, so with almost endless ,,Liberum Veto" (lat. ,,I don't agree") shouted in Sejm, King needed to ,,buy" the votes. That blocked the development of our country, which became visible in second half of XVIIth Century, when Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth, mighty superpower everyone was afraid of, started to ,,bleed out". We didn't development our farming, so we were exporting less and less every year. We weren't developing our Army, so it was getting weaker and weaker every decade. And we didn't change our pollitical system, so it didn't stop. In XVIIIth Century everything was clear. First, in 1702 we disbanded Winged Hussars (if you want I can explain why) and we had like 10.000 soldiers, while being between three superpowers wanting to destroy us: Prussia, Russia and Austria. The myth that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth collapsed because of neighbors is partially true, as they were corrupting our Nobles, but without ,,Nihil Novi" privilege they couldn't do much to destroy us. But here we are, in Age of Enlightenment - but for Poles and Lithuanians it's getting darker and darker. In 1764 Stanisław August Poniatowski gets the Polish-Lithuanian throne (Nobles didn't like them, but Russian Army forced them to elect him (we didn't have a throne heredity)), but 4 years later the ,,Bar Confederation" (against this new king) started. In 1772 he singed I Partizipation of Poland. That wasn't cool, so like only 6 years later we started a ,,Great Sejm negotiations" (,,Obrady Sejmu Wielkiego") to reform our backwarded, weak country. It resulted in III May Constitution (,,Konstytucja III Maja" (this is the reason why 3rd of May is a national celebration in Poland)) in 1791, turning us into Constitutional Monarchy and reducing Liberum Veto. But we were too poor, as our king liked to party from national budget, and made a debt on 30mln złoty. His favourite lover, Czarina Catharine II The Great, promised him she will pay for all of this - if he only accept II Partizipation of Poland, and that's what happened, in 1793. That outraged Tadeusz Kościuszko, who launched an Up-Rising against that (,,Kościuszko's Insurrection" (,,Insurekcja Kościuszkowska")) a year later, but collaborative King ordered those rebels to capitulate, which they did. Another year later, in 1795, all of neighbors just walk into the country which doesn't even resist, and grab all of its lands, announcing III Partizipation of Poland. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth disappears. Then is it true it was because of neighbors? Well, yes, we can say it, but the most important reason is economical crisis and too much privileges for Nobility. That's the true story why this mighty Superstate collapsed.
Britain [proudly]: The only thing that doesn't change is change itself.. Except for tea: the stumli for our colonial exapa.... Sorry, our way of civilising other people.
@@HerewardWake or they could have just helped them. The British didn't took Rhodesia because they feared that a outside power would have taken it. They took it because they wanted more land
@Pedro Abreu same with the tea. plus i would accept the "way of civilising" if britain wasnt considered one of the least civilised and most problematic countries in europe
After you saying that it was Afonso and not Alfonso, I learned that in Portuguese it is Afonso but in Spain and Italy it’s Alfonso. It all makes sense now.
Any chance you’ll get back to some longer form videos some time soon? Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy your short vids too but I find myself craving more in-depth looks into certain topics you’ve covered recently. I’d love to see some longer videos mixed in if possible (I realize they’re probably a lot more work to make). Keep up the great work, Cheers!
Hi there! Saw some comments bellow asking if there is still a royal family in Portugal. Yes, there is. Duarte Pio de Bragança would be our king nowadays. The descendants of the royal family are still known and respected here. I'm not a monarchist, but I think it's interesting to point this out. Hope you're all good and safe! Greetings from Portugal.
@@nikobellic570 To be fair, the royal line of Portugal straight up died, there was no one to execute other than the exiled king...who was...well...exiled, so that couldn't be done The modern claimants to the throne are Miguelists, descendants of the king D. Miguel, an absolutist king who had usurped the monarchy and later was exiled after losing the civil war against his constitutionalist brother Until the fall of the monarchy the miguelists had virtually no power and were exiled, ensuring that they would survive any republican militancy leading to what we have today, a claimant directly descending from the first Portuguese king D. Afonso Henriques
And now look at Brazil. Widespread corruption and gang capital of the world. There's uncountable amounts of videos of criminals burning people alive, eating human flesh & brain matter and killing women in front of their children. If only these people had a higher religious ideal to look up to... Oh wait they ousted the monarchy so I guess this is what they all wanted Brazil to end up like!
Warwick Bull Portugal was always a bit on edge with Castile/Spain so close, and could never truly match them. It’d make sense that they would want to secure an alliance as a last effort to deter aggression in Iberia. Spain and Portugal are often historical friends, but friendships can change quickly.
Thank for addressing this part of my country’s History! I have to give you credit for the emphasis on the correct spelling of “Afonso” (the worst thing for a Portuguese is being confused as a Spanish), and as well the details like the Sash of the Three Orders worn by the Portuguese Kings, and the representation of the two leaders of the main parties, Luciano de Castro and Hintze Ribeiro. I just have to note that Republicanism was never illegal during the Monarchy, just a few extremist (terrorist, by today’s standards) organizations like the Carbonária. In fact the Portuguese Republican Party was founded in 1876, with the consent of King D. Luís, and elected it’s first deputy in 1878. It had a parliamentary representation until the end of the monarchy, but always in great minority, since it’s support was mainly urban and disputed with an early Socialist Party. Even after the Ultimatum, they only elected 3 deputies in 148. Despite his inexperience, as he was not destined to reign, Dom Manuel II tried to undermine the Republicans by allying with the Socialist Party, their rivals. The only reason for the success of the Revolution of 1910 was the great centralization of power in the capital, where the Republicans were popular. Any change of power in the capital, was a change of power for the whole nation. As was said “The Republic was proclaimed in Lisbon, and the rest of the country was informed by telegraph”. But the Revolution in itself was not an easy win for the Republicans. In fact one of it’s leaders, Admiral Cândido dos Reis committed suicide, as the cause was seen as lost after some hours of fighting. The only reason for the success was that the monarchist commander, Paiva Couceiro, unexpectedly received orders to retreat his troops and meet with the King. So to be fair, the Republicans were not democratic, since they took power by force, being a minority in parliament. When they were in power, they even restricted the electoral laws, because they knew the people was vastly monarchist, and religious (the Republicans were fiercely anticlerical). Also, a central figure in the end of the Monarchy is João Franco. Trying to surpass the turnover between the main parties (the called Rotativismo), the King appointed him to the government, as he was seen as independent and moderately progressive. But the main parties resented this action, and João Franco lost parliamentary support. So he was forced to govern through a dictatorship (a “Turkish-like government”, as was said) which only made him impopular. The fact that he had the support of the King is seen as one of the main reasons for the Regicide. Finally, I wouldn’t say that Portugal is a “proud republic”. The majority of the people frankly doesn’t care about that, and the monarchist movement isn’t dead. It is slowly growing, in fact. The Regicide is now seen as a barbarous act, and at a personal level Dom Carlos is considered on of the best Kings. He was a very down to earth individual, and also a praised polymath - a painter, a tennis enthusiast, an agronomist, an ornithologist a renowned oceanographer, etc... He just happened to reign in terrible conditions. The truth is that every problem criticized during the monarchy was only made worse during the Republic. Republic isn’t a synonym of Progress, nor Democracy. We can have these two things, and a King at the same time. And that is what some few people in Portugal are starting to realize.
Yeaaaaaa I'll have to call bullshit on your "monarchism is growing" part. We've got socialist movements for days and you know how those guys are when it comes to kings. Plus, pretty much everyone just laughs when they see an actual monarchist around here. Like it's not a popular idea. Only reason I'd say you were misled by a Portuguese person is because I know you're Portuguese yourself lol.
@@zap3231 I don’t claim it’s a big movement. But it’s growing indeed. The thing is that there are more monarchists than one might think. It isn’t an ideology, so people are not passionate about it, but they prefer a monarchy. To be fair, most people don’t care, but I wouldn’t be surprised if more cared for the monarchy than the republic itself. And yes, I say that as a Portuguese.
@@avantelvsitania3359 Well I would, especially cause, again, we're filled to the brim with socialist/communist movements and political parties, and even the right-winged parties don't much care for monarchy. You see people everywhere condemning the Spanish monarchy for their recent actions against that guy who insulted it and to top it all off the main source of attention for the modern monarchist societies here in Portugal are just people wanting to laugh at them. Monarchism isn't coming back here, especially with the Miguelist successor. I don't know if he's abandoned his family's absolutist beliefs but if he hasn't that's a sure way to know the House of Bragança is dead forever to the Portuguese Throne.
"Rule" is an overstatement. They had occupied bothe the Angolan and Mozambican coasts and had claims on the lands in between which were recognized by all other parties of Treaty of Berlin, except for Britain.
Portugal supported Rhodesia alongside South Africa for obvious reasons...cough cough...a shared opposition to native self-determination Nothing to do with the fact that we briefly occupied/claimed those lands 100 years especially when back then all the ancestors of the rhodesian white elite were still living in England at that time
@@Luzitanium Well ... Funny thing is, like we never get credit for anything, we did 'help' our 'hermanos' by drawing forces away from the Ottomans. This is an extract from Wikipedia about Lepanto: "One very interesting fact, relatively unknown, is that in 1570, one year before Lepanto, a large offensive ecloded in India against the Portuguese East Indian empire. The Indian powers send an embassy to Sultan Selin II taking a large sum of money to finnance the Ottoman naval forces in the red sea if the Sultan agreed with an alliance against the Portuguese in India. In May 1571 the Ottoman fleet of 25 large galleys and 3 galions with some 3000 combatants was ready for action in the Red Sea and set sail. But this fleet never made it to India, having problems on the way they had to stop in Moca until November, when it was again ready but shortly before they set sail, news come from the mediterranean reporting the major defeat of the Sultans force at Lepanto. Along with those the fleet received orders to get back to Suez to enforce the efort of rebuilding the fleet(the ships where disasembled and carryed all the way to the mediterranean). At Lepanto, 25 large galleys of the Ottoman empire whare absent, this was the Portuguese contribution to the war efort. Also:, It is not true that Lepanto was the first major victory of any European army or navy against the Ottoman Empire In 1509 in the battle of Diu, India, the Turks under Meliqueaz had 10 carracks and galions, 6 large galleys, 50 regular ones and 50 smaller ships, the Portuguese under D. Francisco d'Almeida had 9 carracks, 2 galleys, 6 caravels and a brigantine, in all 18 sails against some 116, 66 of them beeing main vessels. In this Battle the turks lost all ships, sunked or captured along with some 3.000 man killed. The flag-ship "Frol de la Mar" alone, fired some 1900 rounds sinking 1 carrack, 10 galleys and many smaller ships. The Turks received a huge blow since from then after the vital commercial lines with India where reduced to a small fraction. Without the large revenues they had with such commerce the Turk's military might was somewath reduced. Diu was in fact a battle of capital importance making the way for the Mediterranean powers to defeat the Turks at Lepanto".
@@tricycle7274 we did help Ehtiopia from becaming a muslim country by allied against the ottomans, we were responsible for the unification of Japan, by introducing the gunfire to them.
A constitutional monarchy, like that in Great Britain, would have solved many of Portugal's problems and no doubt would have prevented years of dictatorship.
really? and here am I was thinking who runs the uk is the parliament and the government with its prime-minister. lets say, like it works Portugal with the President, Parliament, and a government led by a prime minister. the main difference is if we get a crappy President we can vote him out, fact that can't happen with the blue blooded ones in a constitutional monarchy. Either way, all your arguments (i prefer to call them mere opinions) are a big fake. sorry, mate.
Ah, actually, one comment here explained that Portugal already had a constitutional monarchy before, instated through earlier revolutions following the enlightenment. So, no. Most constitutional monarchies aren't Alice anymore today. Any existing monarchy actually is a huge anomaly.
We did have one. Since the early 1800s. Hell, our anthem before the republic was not of praising the king but praising the "Divine Constitution", written by D. Pedro IV himself, the saviour of constitutionalism in Portugal. The problem is the later kings just let "others do their job", to the point of a dictator of sorts being appointed at one point, cementing a weak image of the monarchy, which became official with Portugal submitting to Britain The dictatorship can be blamed on the unstable republic, which was put to an end with a military coup in 1926, the climax of the dozens and dozens of governments that were formed in the brief existance of the first republic, putting an end to democratic vote, which only resumed after General Óscar Carmona died in 1951, but by then presidents were mere puppets of the real ruler of Portugal, the far more famous Salazar, the "prime minister"...who was technically also a dictator
its an anomaly if ur from a republic country. if ur from a modern constitutional monarchy country you would not think its an anomaly. im from a monarchy country and republics just seem so boring to me. our monarchy also cost less than republics and our monarch socialized and mixed with the public and seemed lowkey so many in my country didnt mind the monarch.
I now want to see videos on the early Portuguese Republic and Swiss independence. Excellent video as always! Stay well everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
you shouldve talked about the portuguese the national anthem... when it was created the lyrics had "against the british march" because of the Pink Map but then they changed to "against the cannons march"
Even more video ideas: - What did Abraham Lincoln think about Karl Marx? (Since Marx wrote to Lincoln during the Civil War expressing his support) - How did Thailand dodge being colonized in Southeast Asia? - Why does Moldova exist? - The Taiping Rebellion
Marxists: "Look look, Karl Marx wrote to Republican Lincoln, Marxism (the ideology that has killed hundreds of millions) has always been about anti[insert buzzword here]." No one tell them about his opinion of Jews.
I fell a bit interested i n a topic that follows this one: The Portuguese Dictatorship, The Estado Novo, that could even go on with a video as well as Spain, talking about: The 20th Century European Dictators (that WEREN’T communist).
He/they already made a video about the Spanish one and have some about the nazis, so the one left are Portugal, Greece and states like Vichy France and Nazi puppet states. I don't know if he has a video about Mussolini, but he should.
I... kind of have to mention that this video, while mostly accurate, leaves put important details. 1: Our Alliance with Britain reached its weakest point in the ultimatum referred in the video, however it was never broken. In fact, today, the Alliance has been revitalized: Despite low points, Portugal and Britain never went to war with eachother, and are today so friendly Portugal might even join the Commonwealth (A bit of a hyperbole, but you get the point). The First Republic (a result of the revolution of 1910) even joined WW1 on the side of the Entente, stating that "Despite the regime change, we want the British to know we are still the same friends from the Treaty of Windsor and the Napoleonic Wars". Later on, during WW2, Portugal, ruled by a fascist dictatorship, lended a port in the Azores to the British. That's right. A fascist dictatorship in WW2 being friendly to the British. Our alliance is THAT strong. 2: It might also be important to note that monarchic skepticism in Portugal dates back to the Enlightnment, to our Liberal Revolution that instituted a Constitutional Monarchy. More radical elememts of the Revolution clamored for the abolishment of the Crown.
we technicaly did go to war against the brits in a couple ocasions because of cod. we obviously won btw. also despite all that a good majority of people in portugal dislike the brits on average and most brits know nothing about the windsor treaty and the amount of help we gave them... its still a very one sided friendship
@@zestorm6233 well, you haven't even googled the subject when you are writting on a device from where you can still get a lot of pretty good information. The so-called Cod War was fought between the UK and Iceland.
Mr. Anderson - professional catholic monster hunter A civil war? You’re going against the national identity of Portugal? In fact, how would it NOT make Portugal more instable?
@ they shot the tsar cuz they didn't have a choice if the white army captured the tsar they could restore the empire and that would cause problems to the reds and btw marxism doesn't say that u must kill the kings/emperor.
King Manuel II, a patriot so devoted he didn’t want to be restored through civil war. What a guy.
Literally a coward who threw away thousands of years of monarchs keeping the crown because he was well off on his own.
You're the type of person who'd believe King Charles killed his own people to ensure "Liberty and Freedom" because he said so. People can lie? Impossible! Why would corrupt people lie?
Absolute sensible lad.
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Wait, an ousted king saying no violence should be used to restore him to power is like a king who was involved in a massive civil war and was killed after a trial later?
.... and honestly, Manuel II believing in Portugol lots, but not wanting to spend Portuguese lives just to return himself to power is like a believable position of a failed king who inheirted a mess.
Killing his way back would not have solved his problems enough.
He was descendent from the Queen Victoria from UK, when things got tricky before someone try to kill him he left to the UK, and he had a lot of british status like "Royal Victorian Order" and stuff, british monarchy gave him a palace and free money for the rest of is life... that why he didint care much about Portugal. He end up diying in 1932 with 42yo
@@eucalipto042 He did care about Portugal because he fought in the Portuguese army during world war 1 even when it was a republic.
Now I really want to see a video about the failure of the Portuguese Republic and the rise of Antonio Salazar and the Estado Novo.
based
And Erkel Guy In Brazil
And the fall of Estado Novo
After 3 failed republics, Portugal gets a dictator.
Bulb66 He’s talking about Eneas Carneiro, which is a very obscure request for a video
GB: We've been friends for quite a while, right Portugal?
Portugal: Well yes I supose we have.
GB: *Draws service revolver* So how about you hand over some of that land in Africa as a gesture of friendship.
Is not like they need it.
Scum bags
Ned Steven it was good for portugal actualy. Angola mozambique and all the other portugal colonies were more than enough for portugal small population. And it will have become independant 70 years later anyways 😂
Filipe Moreira Filipe Moreira uk which included ireland at the time had about 8 times portugal population
And i dont call macao and timor oriental a empire 😂 altho angola and mozambique was a bit late in the independance actions. And macao and timor oriental are independant countries now since 20+ years
Uk still own lands in the carabian. Atlantic (falkland island) pacific indian ocean. And mediteranian (gibraltar). Its called the 14 uk overseas territory. So uk is still an empire having land on all part of the globe. While portugal do not
Filipe Moreira also why are you placing your ego on history. You didnt do anything that deserve pride. Its the very specific individual portuguese dudes that made the portuguese colonization that deserve congratulation. Not you. You might be the biggest ssstttuuppidest loosser ever portugal has
So dont place you ego in history. Its just make you look like a dude who has no self estim and try to build confidence on what other people did just because they share same passport
Portugal: Britain! Our good friend! What are we talking about today-
Britain: Give me part of your empire
Portugal needed to learn to share.
More like manipulative spouse .
Fact: Cape to Cairo is more important than friendships
Sounds like your average Civ game
Cecil Rhodes wants his Rhodesia.
"...name definitly didn't have and L in it.." - You already earned my full respect in the first 10 seconds!
Si, senhor.
Os Afonso how you say Alfonso in portuguese?
But there is an 's' in Luis, yet the narrator pronounced it as Louie.
@@petercox5918 He made a mistake. It's pronounced as "Luees"
@Peter Cox in French that’s correct, you don’t pronounce the s in “Louis”. But Portuguese and Spanish (to my knowledge, correct me if wrong) are phonetic languages, meaning you pronounce all the letters, and can usually determine pronunciation from spelling.
There is a verse in the Portuguese anthem that goes "Against the cannons march, march". It was originally "Against the British, march, march".
Wonder how that would have turned out
Yeah it was. But its like a diminutive. It would translate as "brits". We had to changed it at their request...
Lol Portugal’s original anthem was a diss track lolol
@@scottydu81 Most of them are. The US anthem is about a battle with the British. The French anthem speaks of "watering the fields with impure blood" and was created during the Franco-Prussian War.
@@TugaAvenger French anthem dates back from the french revolution period around 1790 and references the other royalist armies of europe trying to put it down
@@CalgarGTX thanks for correcting, and being civil.
Every "Hearts of Iron IV: The Great War" player knows that Portugal became a republic in 1910
Nicolas Fritsch 👍
I always forget to look at it before the coup.
Luís Quartin
I wouldn’t be so sure of that.
And China followed 2 years later. The same year the Titanic sank.
Luís Quartin M O S T
Apparently the Portugese mustache game is strong
In Brazil, the stereotype for a portuguese Man is a Baker with a moustache, so yeah, the moustache game has always been strong
my father and father's side of the family are Portuguese, and I can attest that the mustache game is very strong
@Plo Koon I've seen an old lady on the news with some puberty-style stache, but that's about it
Even in women
Half my family is Portuguese. Can confirm.
Quick answer: It got shot. Well, the King and his heir were, at least.
Greetings from Portugal.
@Kaiser Wilhelm II
Not all people are born and raised to be fluent in english, Herr Kaiser.
Please forgive him with your power of being Victorias Grandchild
His English seems plenty fine to me. In fact I wouldn’t even be able to tell he’s not a native speaker.
@Kaiser Wilhelm II Decent, but it could be better. What about yours, Kaiser?
@@ertvonzukonigvonrahm835 I'm certain that I won't be executed or anything.
@@theyoshi202 Thanks. I've seen both better and a lot worse from native speakers. :)
Portugal was the third european country to overthrow their king?
since when did Switzerland had a king?
edit: ( can we have a video about how Switzerland gained a Republic? I am intrested now )
Switzerland was part of the HRE until 1648 when they gained legal independence under the Treaty of Westphalia and then again in 1815 under the Congress of Vienna they were declared independent from the First French Empire.
idk too much about all swiss history butttt i think he's talking about how they were part of the HRE which had a King, and they revolted and made their own country
They got rid of the Holy Roman Emperor and became independent.
Well they were parts of Habsburg monarchy untill death of Emperor Rudolf I Habsburg, then they rebelled and formed Old Confederacy consisting of cities and cantons. So they kinda overthrown their King.
@@rtsgod The HRE had, well, an Emperor. But Switzerland was _reichsfrei_ .
They were pretty much autonomous. The Habsburgs later tried to take that privilege from them, leading to revolution.
Never asked but I need it answered
'Tis often the case in such yonder land as is the Internet.
Samuel Revise cringe
This channel in a nutshell.
@@FireRayquaza24 Huzzah. Such an overflow of exquisite and refined language, molded as to form a scalpel-like criticism which doth assist me in mine progress.
Translation for McCringe: very constructive, thank you. I'm sure you feel a lot better now that you've lost an occasion to keep your mouth shut.
Fun fact: Portugal is the only European nation who’s monarch ruled it from one of its colonies (Brazil).
Also Queen Maria II of Portugal was born in Brazil
@@MarcoAurelio-vv3gz yeah,and was the daughter of our first emperor,Peter the first.
The throne remained the same, he only had to move to one of our colonies, for a couple of years and then forced to come back.
Mike Oxlong PT só falou bosta, chora mais
@Mike Oxlong PT Nobody said "The Brazilian Empire". He said "our first emperor" because portugal used to rule Brazil, so they were the same nation for a very long time.
Atleast they didn't eat their king 🤷♂️
Edit: You guys must be fun at Partys ..
You mean Prime Minister. The Netherlands ate their Prime Minister not the King.
It's either they eat him ( metaphorically, or in the case of the Netherlands, literally)
Or he eats them
It's a zero sum game.
haha ha correct comment, :At least the Portuguese didn’t eat their own prime minister.
They can’t r/woooosh all of us
eat*
Eat*
I feel the whole process started much earlier with the monarchy moving the capital to Brazil to flee from Napoleon and stay there for over a decade. Then, they lost their biggest colony of Brazil once they return to Europe, because of a family feud - leaving Portugal in a much weaker state than their former rivals.
It started even sooner, arguably, with the razing of Lisbon in 1755. Now that was blow.
Yes well, you have to apply Occam’s razor to establish a clear and cut cause. I would be even stricter than History Matters. The fall of the Monarchy began with the British move on the Portuguese African colonies.
It also didn’t help that every male member of the House of Braganza kept either dying or living and deciding for some reason in the name of God not to marry, or to marry and not have children. The contentious and well prepared Pedro V died in a epidemic and was replaced by the ineffective Luís I and later Carlos I, who was murdered, meaning you had two Kings whose reigns were stagnant. Manuel II was... he was the right man, because his reign came far too late
What you're saying is when Portugal went from an absolute monarchy to a constitutional one, in the first half of the XIX century, Portugal had 3 constitution (1822, 1826 and 1832), with a Civil war in the middle, and political turmoil until 1851. (They decided to use the Constitucional letter of 1826)
Portugal entered the period we call "Regeneração" (Regeneration) where Portugal invested heavily in infrastructure, communications and industry to catch up with the rest of Europe.
Although these were somewhat successful, they didn't produce the expected results, and Portugal entered a vicious circle where they kept taking on loans they couldn't afford.
Portugal entered bankruptcy having to leave the gold standard, and negotiating how to pay the loans, in the Crises of 1891-1892, this and the unhappiness with the political system that was either one party or the other made the Portuguese take action.
Portuguese Republicans: Our king is too pro British, we hate Britain for taking advantage of us.
Britain: Yo, Portugal want to come fight in the Great War
Portuguese Republicans: 😏
France asked first and Portugal was being attacked by Germany in Africa
@@lpereira300 You must be fun at parties.
Also, Germany declared war on Portugal, not vice versa.
The truth is that Portugal did not behave itself as neutral country.
When Portugal complies with the British request to confiscate the German ships interned in Portuguese ports, Germany reacts by declaring war on Portugal, thus forcing the Portuguese officially into the war.
Nice one! It's funny and sad because it's true.
Portugal in 1910: we hate Britain
Portugal in 1916: lets help Britain
@Schnitzelreich I would've thought they preffered neutraility rather than joining the Germans outright, especially since the Germans wouldnt be able to help them if they did join
Portugal in 1386: Oh crap! Spain is invading me! Quick! I need English Archers!
Britain: Sure, why not?
@@fristnamelastname5549 England, not Britain. Britain was not formed until 1707.
yeah we had like 40 different governments from 1910 to 1918 and their decisions were pretty volatile
Frist Name Last Name well, we have been thankfull all these centuries for these 400 archers.... btw, the portuguese many times are bigger then they think. That battle was the first prove of it, but yes, we do thank you for the help. It was in a important moment and stabilized the independence almost 800 years ago, when Spain was still a project.
I was trying to think of a good joke but the British already claimed it in the name of his majesty king Edward VII
Normie
@@Cjnw ????
who's that ahole? the robber king?
He was one of the most popular monarchs
Imagine betraying everyone even your oldest ally
This post was made by the british gang
Imagine betraying or conquer all you friends
-Nazigermany
The eternal Anglo
@@ichquell20 Who did they betray?
There are no friendships among nations, only practical temporary alliances.
Imagine not betraying everyone even your oldest ally*
I almost expected him to say “From Afonso I, whose name definitely didn’t have an “l” in it, to Manuel II, whose name definitely did...”
I expected "to Manuel II, whose name definitely didn't have an "o" in it. "
EDIT: I thought "Manoel" was more common than "Manuel" in Portugal, but apparently I was wrong.
@@ixlnxs Er... no.
@@ixlnxs what have you been smoking, mate?!... This is not Spain, the most common way to write that name on Portuguese was Manuel and still is. We had a movie director called Manoel de Oliveira, but he was part of a tiny minority.
@@pedromiguelalmeida4446 in Spain the name is also written as "Manuel" lol
Fun fact: The portuguese anthem's chorus has a part that goes "Against the cannons, we march".
This anthem was composed for a play in 1890. The original was "Against the brittons we march"
"Portugal and England are one of the oldest allies in history"
History Matters: "About that.."
it should be replaced by "the worst allies in history". Even after expeling the Napoleonic forces from our country brits stole almost all the remains of our churches gold and plunder the country. then come the pink map ultimatum. after the brexit. so now just leave us focking alone. Keep it to your corner, except when you're petted by your american owners, with the bless of the french navy and armorers to support the tea party club, a bunch of rurals who kicked his majesty bests out of the USA to be.
@@pedromiguelalmeida4446 rip bozo
The uk supporting Spain by letting spain invade Portugal before ww1
2:37 "Things don't get magically fixed by ousting the guy with the crown."
Precisely.
Can pretty much be expanded to any leader. So many revolutions that grind to a halt because killing/exiling the dictator doesn't really fix anything.
It's always a good first step, though.
That's what everyone should say to Spanish republicans. It happened in 1931 and it will happen again if the current king is ousted.
@@ArkadiBolschek often yes but not sure if always
I'm not too sure about that, I mean, look at the French and American Revolutions.
Fun fact, the national anthem of Portugal at one time (when the Republic was inaugurated) one part said "against the Brits, we march!" this part replaced "Brits" to "cannons" on later years
Portugal is a wonderful country, one of the loveliest places I’ve visited in Europe!
Thank you!
I LOVE how this channel focuses on empires/cultures from all over the world, not just the largest four or five from European history. Thanks mate, keep it up, greetings from Toronto, Canada.
Allways love to see another History Matters Video. Especially during quarantine where you can't really do much else. Great Content as allways.
*Restores the Portuguese Monarchy in La Resistance*
Surprised Pikachu face
How?
Saguntum-Iberian-Greek Konstantinopoli With the Hearts of Iron IV DLC „La Résistance“ you get the optional restore the monarchy and even creating a dual Monarchy between Brazil and Portugal
OVERPOWERED FOCUS TREE INTENSIFIES
@@joao_1986 laughs in +1000 manpower a month and the entire Brazilian navy. Seriously tho I'm happy paradox made our monarchist tree so overpowered lmao
Manuel was overthrown just weeks after the famous “Nine Monarchs” photo
Wow, I didn't know that, maybe it was karma for the bloodshed in the Colonies.
What are uou talking? What bloodshed??
@@acharonim4659 Not a lot of bloodshed my guy. Portugal’s costly and disastrous colonial wars in Africa didn’t get going until after the fall of the monarchy
@@Edmonton-of2ec kinda says a whole lot about the Republic. Doesn't it 🤔
@@acharonim4659 The colonial wars only started in 1961 and ended in 1974/1975.
*Portuguese monarchist song starts playing*
*Deus, Pátria e Rei intensifies*
You mean spain?
love that song but i can't understand but one world i think the say honor i dont know
Se Deus quiseeeeeeeeeeeeer
Há de brilaaaaaaaaaaar
Denovo a corooooa sobre as lusas armas!
Que a nossa pátria soube sempre honraaaaar
Que a nossa pátria sobe sempre honraaaaaar
It hurts that we treated such a great ally and friend like shit 😤
Nothing new, they loved land grabbing.
@@OneofInfinity. You could say that about all empires throughout history.
Don't worry its fine we just hate Spain and Brazil and France and morroco and some hate the usa
Honestly, when didn't UK betray it's allies?
British never had any real enemy or friends, only interests
_"it turns out that things don't get magically fixed by ousting the guy with the crown."_ - Truer words were never spoken.
Portugal: *becomes democracy
Salazar: Yeah how about no
Mhm, not really though... Salazar didn't lead the 1926 coup, he just took over in 1933.
@Kaiser Wilhelm II he's not an ignorant and probably not communist so what r u talking about
The most unstable democracy in the world. Some 30 governments in 16 years of republic
Probably better off under Salazar than as a democracy. But the economy struggled because of a long war in Africa.
Salazar kept portugal from falling apart like franco did in spain
3:42 of pure knowledge! Love tour videos, they are always so accurate, looking forward for more. Thank you :)
The series is so remarkable that my attention span cannot exceed three minutes any more. Thanks!
Interesting video on something I had never even considered! Feel Portugal is often overlooked by Spain in history terms so nice to know something about them!
If you're interested in Portugal take a look at anything you can find from our earlier history, from the 1100's to the 1580's especially. It's very interesting.
@@MaSsiVeGaming1 Thanks for the recommendation, i'll definitely take a look
@@AlexMcNamee You'll be happy to know that because we're overshadowed so much, most of us really enjoy telling foreigners about our history. So feel free to ask
@@TheZeldaCinema we are overshadowed because of ignorance, even from portuguese themselves (specially those who start speaking spanish to foreigners)
most things atributed to spain in terms of history come from portugal. on average spain came a lot later to the party and just copied
If I remember correctly from the history classes, Portugal didn’t give territory to England. We made a plan, called the Pink Map, to connect Angola to Mozambique. However, that was basically at the same time that GB was developing the plan to connect Cairo to Cape Town so, since it messed with their plans, we were aggressively asked to stand down.
Yes and no. We technically already occupied the areas in the Pink Map, due to Serpa Pinto's military expeditions. He withdrew after the British Ultimatum.
@@zap3231 ok, obrigado pela resposta!
"The Prime Ministers were the king's friends and did as he asked but their parties had different names so were totally different."
Hey, that sounds familiar for some reason.
That's why the whole "Oldest alliance" is quite, to put it to words, rubbish. It's only an alliance to the British, to use it when convenient
The kind of alliance everybody wants, and nobody wants.
In the TimeGhost video about what if the Nationalists had lost the Spanish Civil War some people commented that had a Nazi-aligned communist Spain invaded Portugal, the UK would have intervened on the basis of the medieval piece of paper, it got me a chuckle. Portugal was almost entirely useless to the British, it doesn't even border the Mediterranean, you can't close it off from the Atlantic from there-it would be just some extra coastline which the Axis wouldn't need anyway. There's no way they would have risked even a single British life trying to defend it.
Bullshit it is an Alliance still, a lot of military training gets done still between both nations, the UK generally aided the Portuguese whenever they needed help.
Funny, the Brits never screwed us..
@@scarletcrusade77 sure, overall in Africa right???
I really like your channel! I like these short one with so many answers to "I wonder why..." - I get the answers with bare-bones background information, and little else. Well done!
Also curiously, the proclamation of the Republic in Brazil in 1889, was a big influence to Portuguese Republicans. There were millions of Portuguese immigrants in Brazil, and many traveled between the two countries. There was even a early 20th century Portuguese president who was born in Brazil
Yes, but as history evolved, the same happened with the two republics. The Portuguese Republic became less and less a corporativist system (that is even more visible in the Third Republic), whereas Brazil actually didn't change a lot...
And now look at Brazil. Widespread corruption and gang capital of the world. There's uncountable amounts of videos of criminals burning people alive, eating human flesh & brain matter and killing women in front of their children. If only these people had a higher religious ideal to look up to... Oh wait they ousted the monarchy so I guess this is what they all wanted Brazil to end up like!
A video on William Walker and his attempted colonization of Sonora, Baja Cali, and Nicaragua would be cool
Is that the golden circle dude??
Portugal: *[had coups and counter-coups]*
Portugal: "This is fine."
That's pretty sums up 😂
Portugal: ok lets throw out the monarchy because it’s led to a decline in our global Influence.
Hoi4 players: aight imma restore the monarchy
Portugal: Visible Confusion
Tbf in the HOI4 time in 1936, Portugal had just had it's 10th anniversary of the military dictatorship,aka "the second republic" and the 3rd of the "Estado Novo" Salazarist regime, both of which had succeeded one of if not THE most unstable republic in modern history. I'm sure the Portuguese people would be ok with a king
“......things don’t get magically fixed by ousting the guy with a crown”
Literally the outcome of every revolution *ever*
Or Us elections. On both sides
The United States was pretty successful, but to be fair, a colonial revolution is very different from one centered around a country's "core" territories.
@@iruleatgames you guys literally had a civil war
@@starplatinumzahand8174 We also have the longest lasting democracy in the world, and our civil war was between two different republican democracies with different ideas of freedom. Considering we were and still are one of the world's leading superpowers, I think we've done alright. Not perfect, but alright.
@@iruleatgames I mean, as a country, economically and military wise, yes of course...
Socially wise not so much
Did they eat him?
Most monarchs get eaten.
Nah men, we chill down here
No. We had enough sardines and codfish.
Generally speaking, Prime Ministers aren't food.
When the Dutch don't have oranges they eat the Orangist prime minister.
Thank god my King hasn’t been eaten yet
Hot take: the blue and white Portuguese flag looks better than the modern green and red one. Though I like the astrolabe on the current flag better than the crown.
i agree, and that multiple shields and castles thing looks disgusting
There's only one thing for it, restore the monarchy and get the old flag back.
This^
I propose a compromise, use green and blue, or white and red
there was literally attemps to re-use the royal flag during the first days of the *republic* At least they didnt went with the US copy past one
Idea for video: How/Why did Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth fail/collapse?
It's a good subject, but as a Pole I can tell already: it went bankrupt
Admirał Patryk I would’ve figured because it was eaten alive by surrounding powers
Because it was a lot of land stuck between greater powers than itself. Not much more to it, really.
@@mr.anderson2241 Emm, not that much as you think it had.
You see, in 1374 King Luis the Hungarian, to put his daughter on Polish throne, promised to the Nobility a little but too much. Next kings in XVth Century needed to accept another privileges, but in 1505 king Kazimierz Jagiellończyk made a ,,Nihil Novi" (lat. ,,nothing new") privilege, meaning that no new law will be accepted without an agreement of all Nobility. In XVIth Century Nobels were able to negotiate. We were expanding territorially, polliticaly, economically - on any kind of level (that's why we call XVIth Century ,,Gold Century" (,,Złoty wiek")), and Nobles we're proud of this ,, Nobilitian Democracy" - when in Europe Absolute Monarchy was getting more and more popular Polish-Lithuanian Nobels were calling Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth ,,Green Island" (,,Zielona Wyspa"), as we were standing out of totalitarism. As King Zigmunt the August said: ,,I'm not the king of your conscience" (,,Nie jestem królem sumień Waszych"). So everything was fine and great. By the time.
In 1651 there was a first time when Sejm was broken without any kind of negotiations. That made us lose Chmielnicki's Up-Rising, so we lost an ability to co-rule the Russia. But that also made baronage even more corrupted, so with almost endless ,,Liberum Veto" (lat. ,,I don't agree") shouted in Sejm, King needed to ,,buy" the votes.
That blocked the development of our country, which became visible in second half of XVIIth Century, when Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth, mighty superpower everyone was afraid of, started to ,,bleed out". We didn't development our farming, so we were exporting less and less every year. We weren't developing our Army, so it was getting weaker and weaker every decade. And we didn't change our pollitical system, so it didn't stop.
In XVIIIth Century everything was clear. First, in 1702 we disbanded Winged Hussars (if you want I can explain why) and we had like 10.000 soldiers, while being between three superpowers wanting to destroy us: Prussia, Russia and Austria.
The myth that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth collapsed because of neighbors is partially true, as they were corrupting our Nobles, but without ,,Nihil Novi" privilege they couldn't do much to destroy us. But here we are, in Age of Enlightenment - but for Poles and Lithuanians it's getting darker and darker. In 1764 Stanisław August Poniatowski gets the Polish-Lithuanian throne (Nobles didn't like them, but Russian Army forced them to elect him (we didn't have a throne heredity)), but 4 years later the ,,Bar Confederation" (against this new king) started. In 1772 he singed I Partizipation of Poland. That wasn't cool, so like only 6 years later we started a ,,Great Sejm negotiations" (,,Obrady Sejmu Wielkiego") to reform our backwarded, weak country. It resulted in III May Constitution (,,Konstytucja III Maja" (this is the reason why 3rd of May is a national celebration in Poland)) in 1791, turning us into Constitutional Monarchy and reducing Liberum Veto. But we were too poor, as our king liked to party from national budget, and made a debt on 30mln złoty. His favourite lover, Czarina Catharine II The Great, promised him she will pay for all of this - if he only accept II Partizipation of Poland, and that's what happened, in 1793. That outraged Tadeusz Kościuszko, who launched an Up-Rising against that (,,Kościuszko's Insurrection" (,,Insurekcja Kościuszkowska")) a year later, but collaborative King ordered those rebels to capitulate, which they did. Another year later, in 1795, all of neighbors just walk into the country which doesn't even resist, and grab all of its lands, announcing III Partizipation of Poland. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelth disappears.
Then is it true it was because of neighbors? Well, yes, we can say it, but the most important reason is economical crisis and too much privileges for Nobility. That's the true story why this mighty Superstate collapsed.
@@Admiral45-10 Well, as a Pole, I know that. Nonetheless I think this is interesting subject and worth mentioning.
0:58 British friends we will forever be. Alliance since 1373. They named a borough after me. We even taught them to drink tea!
Macau. Brazil, Angola. The Portuguese ruled near and far.
@@markhenley3097 Ferdinand Magellan, Vasco da Gama, Antonio Salazar.
@@Koala1203 Salazar slytherin?
And they showed us how good deep fried battered fish could taste.
@@Croz89 nah it was actualy portugal who taught them how to batter fish sorry to disapoint you but battering food is a portuguese invention xD
Loved the video, always love when RUclips channels cover anything about Portugal
"James Bisonet"
and Izzy? 3:40
He's a legend
@@harrywood6502 is hee?
apple's lover some dude who’s been a patron for a a year and a half
"From Afonso I, whose name definitely didn't have an L in it"
Yay, he's learning! :D
Iberia gets pretty forgotten after the age of exploration. Nice vid!
there's no iberia. just a small peninsula with two distinct countries: Portugal and Spain.
1:04 the UK never changes...
Britain [proudly]: The only thing that doesn't change is change itself.. Except for tea: the stumli for our colonial exapa....
Sorry, our way of civilising other people.
@@HerewardWake or they could have just helped them. The British didn't took Rhodesia because they feared that a outside power would have taken it. They took it because they wanted more land
@Pedro Abreu same with the tea. plus i would accept the "way of civilising" if britain wasnt considered one of the least civilised and most problematic countries in europe
This channel answers all of the great questions I've yet to think of
A Man of Culture and Philip Oink Oink are my two new favourite Patreons.
After you saying that it was Afonso and not Alfonso, I learned that in Portuguese it is Afonso but in Spain and Italy it’s Alfonso. It all makes sense now.
Nobody:
French to monarchies: *You have lost head privileges*
I didn't know countries had heads
@@TheRealKingLeopoldII And I did not know that you still live
@@frose1980 Yeah, I faked my death
@@TheRealKingLeopoldII You gotta be pretty old now, what's your secret?
@@nobleactual7616 Belgian fries and beer
That graphic at 1:41 really hit my guts ☹️ and it kept being like that for a long looong time
Any chance you’ll get back to some longer form videos some time soon? Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy your short vids too but I find myself craving more in-depth looks into certain topics you’ve covered recently. I’d love to see some longer videos mixed in if possible (I realize they’re probably a lot more work to make). Keep up the great work,
Cheers!
I wonder how the appetite for Portugal to restore its monarchy is right now. Same for Brazil.
Hi there! Saw some comments bellow asking if there is still a royal family in Portugal. Yes, there is. Duarte Pio de Bragança would be our king nowadays. The descendants of the royal family are still known and respected here. I'm not a monarchist, but I think it's interesting to point this out. Hope you're all good and safe! Greetings from Portugal.
They were lucky in the past not to end up like French or Russian royals. Or maybe just clever to give up the throne
Era com o Rei Dom Duarte e o Chicão a primeiro ministro, que isto ia para a frente 😅
@@nikobellic570 To be fair, the royal line of Portugal straight up died, there was no one to execute other than the exiled king...who was...well...exiled, so that couldn't be done
The modern claimants to the throne are Miguelists, descendants of the king D. Miguel, an absolutist king who had usurped the monarchy and later was exiled after losing the civil war against his constitutionalist brother
Until the fall of the monarchy the miguelists had virtually no power and were exiled, ensuring that they would survive any republican militancy leading to what we have today, a claimant directly descending from the first Portuguese king D. Afonso Henriques
And now look at Brazil. Widespread corruption and gang capital of the world. There's uncountable amounts of videos of criminals burning people alive, eating human flesh & brain matter and killing women in front of their children. If only these people had a higher religious ideal to look up to... Oh wait they ousted the monarchy so I guess this is what they all wanted Brazil to end up like!
I didn't know that Britain and Portugal were that close in terms of friendship at one point in history.
@Cheese Head I guess the British would need a friend in south western Europe, with them taking Gibraltar from Spain.
Warwick Bull Portugal was always a bit on edge with Castile/Spain so close, and could never truly match them. It’d make sense that they would want to secure an alliance as a last effort to deter aggression in Iberia. Spain and Portugal are often historical friends, but friendships can change quickly.
@@alvingillarlera You learn something new everyday, thanks.
Not "at one point": they've been strong allies for centuries.
@@alvingillarlera Spain and Portugal historical firends ?? bahahahaah are you smoking crack or something?
Portugal: "Turns out overthrowing the government didn't actually solve anything."
France: "First time?"
Everytime I think, hey History Matters hasn't posted for a bit, there's usually one right around the corner. And it's awesome.
Your channel has *by far* the tastiest history snacks on the net👍❤️👍
Thank for addressing this part of my country’s History! I have to give you credit for the emphasis on the correct spelling of “Afonso” (the worst thing for a Portuguese is being confused as a Spanish), and as well the details like the Sash of the Three Orders worn by the Portuguese Kings, and the representation of the two leaders of the main parties, Luciano de Castro and Hintze Ribeiro.
I just have to note that Republicanism was never illegal during the Monarchy, just a few extremist (terrorist, by today’s standards) organizations like the Carbonária. In fact the Portuguese Republican Party was founded in 1876, with the consent of King D. Luís, and elected it’s first deputy in 1878. It had a parliamentary representation until the end of the monarchy, but always in great minority, since it’s support was mainly urban and disputed with an early Socialist Party. Even after the Ultimatum, they only elected 3 deputies in 148. Despite his inexperience, as he was not destined to reign, Dom Manuel II tried to undermine the Republicans by allying with the Socialist Party, their rivals.
The only reason for the success of the Revolution of 1910 was the great centralization of power in the capital, where the Republicans were popular. Any change of power in the capital, was a change of power for the whole nation. As was said “The Republic was proclaimed in Lisbon, and the rest of the country was informed by telegraph”. But the Revolution in itself was not an easy win for the Republicans. In fact one of it’s leaders, Admiral Cândido dos Reis committed suicide, as the cause was seen as lost after some hours of fighting. The only reason for the success was that the monarchist commander, Paiva Couceiro, unexpectedly received orders to retreat his troops and meet with the King.
So to be fair, the Republicans were not democratic, since they took power by force, being a minority in parliament. When they were in power, they even restricted the electoral laws, because they knew the people was vastly monarchist, and religious (the Republicans were fiercely anticlerical).
Also, a central figure in the end of the Monarchy is João Franco. Trying to surpass the turnover between the main parties (the called Rotativismo), the King appointed him to the government, as he was seen as independent and moderately progressive. But the main parties resented this action, and João Franco lost parliamentary support. So he was forced to govern through a dictatorship (a “Turkish-like government”, as was said) which only made him impopular. The fact that he had the support of the King is seen as one of the main reasons for the Regicide.
Finally, I wouldn’t say that Portugal is a “proud republic”. The majority of the people frankly doesn’t care about that, and the monarchist movement isn’t dead. It is slowly growing, in fact. The Regicide is now seen as a barbarous act, and at a personal level Dom Carlos is considered on of the best Kings. He was a very down to earth individual, and also a praised polymath - a painter, a tennis enthusiast, an agronomist, an ornithologist a renowned oceanographer, etc... He just happened to reign in terrible conditions. The truth is that every problem criticized during the monarchy was only made worse during the Republic. Republic isn’t a synonym of Progress, nor Democracy. We can have these two things, and a King at the same time. And that is what some few people in Portugal are starting to realize.
Facts
I really liked your text, i couldn't agree more.
Yeaaaaaa I'll have to call bullshit on your "monarchism is growing" part. We've got socialist movements for days and you know how those guys are when it comes to kings.
Plus, pretty much everyone just laughs when they see an actual monarchist around here. Like it's not a popular idea. Only reason I'd say you were misled by a Portuguese person is because I know you're Portuguese yourself lol.
@@zap3231 I don’t claim it’s a big movement. But it’s growing indeed. The thing is that there are more monarchists than one might think. It isn’t an ideology, so people are not passionate about it, but they prefer a monarchy. To be fair, most people don’t care, but I wouldn’t be surprised if more cared for the monarchy than the republic itself. And yes, I say that as a Portuguese.
@@avantelvsitania3359 Well I would, especially cause, again, we're filled to the brim with socialist/communist movements and political parties, and even the right-winged parties don't much care for monarchy. You see people everywhere condemning the Spanish monarchy for their recent actions against that guy who insulted it and to top it all off the main source of attention for the modern monarchist societies here in Portugal are just people wanting to laugh at them.
Monarchism isn't coming back here, especially with the Miguelist successor. I don't know if he's abandoned his family's absolutist beliefs but if he hasn't that's a sure way to know the House of Bragança is dead forever to the Portuguese Throne.
Portuguese once ruled Rhodesia? Makes sense why they had a military alliance with them and South Africa back in the seventies
"Rule" is an overstatement. They had occupied bothe the Angolan and Mozambican coasts and had claims on the lands in between which were recognized by all other parties of Treaty of Berlin, except for Britain.
That had nothing to do with the Portuguese support for Rhodesia
yup. we even sold 100.000 h&k G3 to South Africa some time after our colonial wars come to the expected end.
Portugal supported Rhodesia alongside South Africa for obvious reasons...cough cough...a shared opposition to native self-determination
Nothing to do with the fact that we briefly occupied/claimed those lands 100 years especially when back then all the ancestors of the rhodesian white elite were still living in England at that time
the alliance between Portugal South Africa and Rhodesia has no relation with that
Portugal.... One of my *most favourite* nations ever! Battle of Lepanto would never have been the same without them
?? Portugal wasnt in that battle.
@@Luzitanium Well ... Funny thing is, like we never get credit for anything, we did 'help' our 'hermanos' by drawing forces away from the Ottomans. This is an extract from Wikipedia about Lepanto:
"One very interesting fact, relatively unknown, is that in 1570, one year before Lepanto, a large offensive ecloded in India against the Portuguese East Indian empire. The Indian powers send an embassy to Sultan Selin II taking a large sum of money to finnance the Ottoman naval forces in the red sea if the Sultan agreed with an alliance against the Portuguese in India. In May 1571 the Ottoman fleet of 25 large galleys and 3 galions with some 3000 combatants was ready for action in the Red Sea and set sail. But this fleet never made it to India, having problems on the way they had to stop in Moca until November, when it was again ready but shortly before they set sail, news come from the mediterranean reporting the major defeat of the Sultans force at Lepanto. Along with those the fleet received orders to get back to Suez to enforce the efort of rebuilding the fleet(the ships where disasembled and carryed all the way to the mediterranean).
At Lepanto, 25 large galleys of the Ottoman empire whare absent, this was the Portuguese contribution to the war efort.
Also:, It is not true that Lepanto was the first major victory of any European army or navy against the Ottoman Empire
In 1509 in the battle of Diu, India, the Turks under Meliqueaz had 10 carracks and galions, 6 large galleys, 50 regular ones and 50 smaller ships, the Portuguese under D. Francisco d'Almeida had 9 carracks, 2 galleys, 6 caravels and a brigantine, in all 18 sails against some 116, 66 of them beeing main vessels. In this Battle the turks lost all ships, sunked or captured along with some 3.000 man killed.
The flag-ship "Frol de la Mar" alone, fired some 1900 rounds sinking 1 carrack, 10 galleys and many smaller ships.
The Turks received a huge blow since from then after the vital commercial lines with India where reduced to a small fraction. Without the large revenues they had with such commerce the Turk's military might was somewath reduced. Diu was in fact a battle of capital importance making the way for the Mediterranean powers to defeat the Turks at Lepanto".
@@tricycle7274 we did help Ehtiopia from becaming a muslim country by allied against the ottomans, we were responsible for the unification of Japan, by introducing the gunfire to them.
@@Luzitanium Yes, that worked wonders for the far East…
@@tricycle7274 it worked in India which asked the portuguese to get the muslims out of control of the indian sea
I just came out of shower to see You and Knowledgia updated a video. Great timing
Having watched your new videos, this one feels like it's playing at 0.75 speed.
Finally someone covers Portugal I'm sick of hearing the some old history of Spain
Heck the Spaniards!
A constitutional monarchy, like that in Great Britain, would have solved many of Portugal's problems and no doubt would have prevented years of dictatorship.
really? and here am I was thinking who runs the uk is the parliament and the government with its prime-minister. lets say, like it works Portugal with the President, Parliament, and a government led by a prime minister. the main difference is if we get a crappy President we can vote him out, fact that can't happen with the blue blooded ones in a constitutional monarchy. Either way, all your arguments (i prefer to call them mere opinions) are a big fake. sorry, mate.
Ah, actually, one comment here explained that Portugal already had a constitutional monarchy before, instated through earlier revolutions following the enlightenment. So, no. Most constitutional monarchies aren't Alice anymore today. Any existing monarchy actually is a huge anomaly.
We did have one. Since the early 1800s. Hell, our anthem before the republic was not of praising the king but praising the "Divine Constitution", written by D. Pedro IV himself, the saviour of constitutionalism in Portugal.
The problem is the later kings just let "others do their job", to the point of a dictator of sorts being appointed at one point, cementing a weak image of the monarchy, which became official with Portugal submitting to Britain
The dictatorship can be blamed on the unstable republic, which was put to an end with a military coup in 1926, the climax of the dozens and dozens of governments that were formed in the brief existance of the first republic, putting an end to democratic vote, which only resumed after General Óscar Carmona died in 1951, but by then presidents were mere puppets of the real ruler of Portugal, the far more famous Salazar, the "prime minister"...who was technically also a dictator
its an anomaly if ur from a republic country. if ur from a modern constitutional monarchy country you would not think its an anomaly. im from a monarchy country and republics just seem so boring to me. our monarchy also cost less than republics and our monarch socialized and mixed with the public and seemed lowkey so many in my country didnt mind the monarch.
@@blackdial5992I hate the republic in Brazil every country should be a monarchy
Could you talk about Dubrovnik Republic?
It isn't a topic that many history chanels talk about. Thanks for your time.
Your videos are the best short history videos on youtube
I now want to see videos on the early Portuguese Republic and Swiss independence. Excellent video as always! Stay well everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
What about the Carnation Revolution that ended the Estado Novo which had been ruling Portugal since 1933, and later the issue of the Retornados.
retornqado was mario soares and alvaro cunhal.....the others were not retornados. "retornado" is a vulgar term invented by leftist parties
A video about how swiss republic came to be would be nice (now that you mentioned it)
Please make more videos of collapsed monarchies, they are good
It’s always nice to see Robert Gascoigne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury making an appearance. Clement Attlee’s favourite Prime Minister.
Nicely done every time!
UK: "Your colonies, give'em to me mate."
Portugal: "No way, you got your own."
UK: "But I want yours too..."
Portugal (1909): I am a Monarchy!
Portugal (1910): You know Monarchys are so last century. The Republic is the future!
Well, they weren't wrong.
@@ArkadiBolschek Yes they were
@@b3ygghsas Well, it _is_ the future and look, they're a Republic.
and the actual present
0:32
“LoOEe”
Still love this channel 😊
Its a weird thing to think about but many country around the world had monarchies until 100 years ago.
‘To put it mildly’ gets better every time
you shouldve talked about the portuguese the national anthem... when it was created the lyrics had "against the british march" because of the Pink Map
but then they changed to "against the cannons march"
1:29 the image should have been slopped as the street is like 20º up. Otherwise, spotless!
Even more video ideas:
- What did Abraham Lincoln think about Karl Marx? (Since Marx wrote to Lincoln during the Civil War expressing his support)
- How did Thailand dodge being colonized in Southeast Asia?
- Why does Moldova exist?
- The Taiping Rebellion
Marxists: "Look look, Karl Marx wrote to Republican Lincoln, Marxism (the ideology that has killed hundreds of millions) has always been about anti[insert buzzword here]."
No one tell them about his opinion of Jews.
Pretty soon: why Thailand got rid of the Monarchy..
I fell a bit interested i n a topic that follows this one: The Portuguese Dictatorship, The Estado Novo, that could even go on with a video as well as Spain, talking about: The 20th Century European Dictators (that WEREN’T communist).
He/they already made a video about the Spanish one and have some about the nazis, so the one left are Portugal, Greece and states like Vichy France and Nazi puppet states. I don't know if he has a video about Mussolini, but he should.
@@tekmogm5979 he made one about Vichy France and one about Mussolini.
Edit: Adding the word ''One'' so the sentence would make more sense.
”These parties had diffrent names so they were totally diffrent” US politics in one sentence
I... kind of have to mention that this video, while mostly accurate, leaves put important details.
1: Our Alliance with Britain reached its weakest point in the ultimatum referred in the video, however it was never broken. In fact, today, the Alliance has been revitalized: Despite low points, Portugal and Britain never went to war with eachother, and are today so friendly Portugal might even join the Commonwealth (A bit of a hyperbole, but you get the point). The First Republic (a result of the revolution of 1910) even joined WW1 on the side of the Entente, stating that "Despite the regime change, we want the British to know we are still the same friends from the Treaty of Windsor and the Napoleonic Wars". Later on, during WW2, Portugal, ruled by a fascist dictatorship, lended a port in the Azores to the British. That's right. A fascist dictatorship in WW2 being friendly to the British. Our alliance is THAT strong.
2: It might also be important to note that monarchic skepticism in Portugal dates back to the Enlightnment, to our Liberal Revolution that instituted a Constitutional Monarchy. More radical elememts of the Revolution clamored for the abolishment of the Crown.
we technicaly did go to war against the brits in a couple ocasions because of cod. we obviously won btw. also despite all that a good majority of people in portugal dislike the brits on average and most brits know nothing about the windsor treaty and the amount of help we gave them... its still a very one sided friendship
@@zestorm6233 No we didn't go to war over cod. That was Iceland. Read a history book.
@@zap3231 yes we did read a history book
@@zestorm6233 No you didn't, otherwise you'd know the cod wars were with Iceland. NOT Portugal.
@@zestorm6233 well, you haven't even googled the subject when you are writting on a device from where you can still get a lot of pretty good information. The so-called Cod War was fought between the UK and Iceland.
Could you cover Ferdinand VII of Spain? He's a strong contender for the title of Worst King Ever, and his reign would make for a great video.
Has a Spanish...
We hate that guy...
0:28 That mapa cor-de-rosa doe
looks pretty white to me
@@teixeira476 it was named like that by the portuguese
I am so happy to hear from Phil DE Oink Oink again! Thanks Phil!
Restore the Portuguese monarchy
Yes, more fucking instability!!!
@@miguelpadeiro762 i heard that portugal of today is poor. Not like greece but still poor
@@cgt3704 *cries in greek
Mr. Karl McYoda how would a restoration of the monarchy cause more instability?
Mr. Anderson - professional catholic monster hunter A civil war? You’re going against the national identity of Portugal? In fact, how would it NOT make Portugal more instable?
Bring back the monarchy for Portugal ❤
U should do a video on what happened to the rest of the Russian Royal family after the revolution
They got shot by the commies the end
@@ronanwaring3408 also the dogs got shot
They fled to Britain
Daniel Sokolov they died for a noble cause, to show why marxism is garbage in practice
@ they shot the tsar cuz they didn't have a choice if the white army captured the tsar they could restore the empire and that would cause problems to the reds and btw marxism doesn't say that u must kill the kings/emperor.
Love to Portugal from 🏴♥️✝️
Good vid
Great episode as always Mate!!!🙏👍😷