- PSR - Spend within your means - PL clubs then spend within their means. - media - Are teams scared to spend... C'mon now. Teams have spent within their means. This is the new age which everyone wants. Gone are the days of City spending big and getting ridiculed for doing so when that's really all you want.
Villa can afford to spend more but are being limited from doing so by some dumb rule - so we can expect them to struggle in the league and CL this season, negatively impacting our standing in Europe and their ability to challenge City - all for no particular reason, just some dumb random rule
City cooked their books and hid them from PL investigators for a decade so, yea they don't need to spend much now, even pointing fingers at United & Chelsea spending big trying to cope
@@junioradult6219 They are restricted heavily and have had to jump through hoops - ideally they would have strengthened their squad more No idea why we are celebrating the fact that teams like Villa are handicapped from challenging for the title Newcastle were also in a bizarre situation last year where they went into the season knowing they were going to struggle as they couldn't deepen their squad - and they had a poor CL campaign accordingly, playing a bunch of injured and knackered players All we are doing is encouraging clubs to find loop holes and do dodgy deals between one another - and to sell all of their academy players for pure profit
Pep is a big part of the problem with City. He will not survive with this current bunch of players unless he pivots. The biggest problem with Pep team is that his players are too small except for Rodri, Haaland and Akanji. He prefers ball carriers who are more technical but now have gotten do slow and are easily pushed off the ball. For Pep to survive He needs a formation that suits his slow pace and zonal marking. He needs to play like a CP did with a single player up front like Toney. He needs a 5-4-1. His ego would be squashed after allowing so many elite players to walk especially a Cole, Alvarez, Mahrez, and even Sterling.
I think the ceiling has been lowered this season, but the floor has been raised. On the one hand, you're seeing an elite talent like Osimhen potentially going to Saudi for 65M. On the other hand, you're seeing bang average lads like Jhon Duran being associated with transfer fees in the region of 40M.
Fail to see how it's a good thing that we are effectively making it impossible for the likes of Villa to challenge for the title - or to even do well in the CL Under this system, it would be impossible to have another Blackburn or Leicester title winning season
Fees are getting back to their pre-Neymar levels. The massive jump in fees after PSG triggered Neymar’s release clause was never going to be sustainable because TV and stadium revenues never jumped as much as fees jumped, particularly with the institution of FFP.
Could be, getting more careful on signing and buying players have a major impact financially and economically of a football club. Wasting a lot of money to a player that could not even contribute, playing inconsistently (defensively and offensively), INJURY Prone, player that have issues on football clubs are not aligned to the mission/vision of the organization. Instead of letting them stay for more year or run out their contract until it last or getting loaned out, they have to talk with the managers and have a deal with them either terminate their contract or stay for a lengthy of time to convince them they are playing for their club else they must leave
The 2021 CL win means people have forgotten that Chelsea have been a borderline top four side since 2017/18, when Chelsea finished 5th in a title defence. 2017/18 - 5th, 5 points below 4th 2018/19 - 3rd, 2 points above 5th 2019/20 - 4th, 4 points above 5th 2020/21 - 4th, 1 point above 5th 2021/22 - 3rd, 5 points above 5th --- 2023/24 - 6th, 5 points below 4th No doubt in my mind that Chelsea fans miss winning the league, but five years of that frustration is on RA, not Clearlake.
@@HabitualLine-Stepper while the last few years of the abramovich era brought poor league results, i think the big money spent on transfers, and sum of money made on sales coupled with winning the europa league and champions league kept the chelsea's reputation high as far as public perception goes. Being a tough matchup for dominant liverpool and man city sides probably helped too.
@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698they played in more cup finals in that list of seasons than any other team in England. They played in 5 FA cup finals 3 league cup finals champions league final Europa league final 2 super cup finals club World Cup final so yeah he’s right it’s really boring and horrible to be a unsuccessful team and this is with a transfer ban and the illegal sanctions on the club that was responsible for the takeover of the ownership that caused the unstable situation and loss of the board members and back room staff. Plus the highest number of players on the injured list for 2 and a half seasons has also contributed to the loss of form.
I think the opposite is true teams have been made to look after their long term finances with these 3 year accounting periods for profit and sustainability. Accompanied with rigorous enforcement of possible points deductions. It’s going to help protect our iconic clubs from being tempted to get into trouble financial waters. Look how Barcelona are fighting to keep their heads above water. The Spanish FA are doing well to make them think about their transfers and registering signings to make them take their financial obligations seriously to protect the future of both the club and La Liga.
All they are doing is encouraging 'creative' accounting and dodgy deals between clubs - plus practically forcing clubs to sell their home grown players for pure profit There's a million ways to make sure clubs aren't on the verge of going bust - this randomly determined spending limit isn't it
It seems that now youth is so overvalued that it's only a matter of time before young prospects' agents will demand massive wages on top of the huge transfer fees. Then, ultimately, some club will win fielding a bunch of vets on bargain deals (Raheem Sterling anyone?).
best podcast for the anglophone market. ps i pay season tickets to 1 minor league baseball and 2. Canadian junior hockey league .i think that minor league sports (league 1 and 2) in England will have a resurgence because of the fans. price for entertainment will win the end.
The global talent crisis at play. There are way less talented players in modern football than used to be. But agents still want to make money that's why they have to overhype what actually is at hand. Obviously, players like Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldo Phenomenon or Ronaldinho never needed any hype back in the day. They were just too good.
If Chelsea bought nobody over last few years and just kept what they produced through academy they would finish higher than they will now. Fans would have loved it
Madness. There's no such. Not a single top 6 team in the Premier league is playing with academy products, even in Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Why the heck do you people expect this from Chelsea alone. Nonsense
@@balenidumisani296Chelsea have the most productive academy in the sport, even overtaking Barcelona and Ajax for regularly producing top professionals. You can't compare what other teams can or can't do with what Chelsea could do with their academy players. Chelsea have academy players playing for high profile clubs like Arsenal, Man United, Man City, AC Milan, Barca, Atletico Madrid, Newcastle, Roma the list goes on... Name another academy outside of Ajax and Barca that have so many playing for massive clubs at the highest level.
@@Mal_Freeman0451 it's nothing to be happy or proud about when there playing for other teams. My point is they should have built a Chelsea team with these players. Lost generation
Disapointing transfer window.I hoped big clubs like Liverpool and Man City, bid around 150 million to buy Musiala or Writz from the small german clubs. Even Real Madrid got Mbappe for free, when you expect them to spend 200 million on him.
Wirtz has one year left and Musiala will have one year left next summer and neither have looked like they’re going to sign a contract so City could easily sign either one next year for a heavily reduced price/ free.
@@sivaramlord9151 yeah & Bayern beat exactly that same Premier League team Arsenal in UCL QF's last time with their worst team in 12 years while Man City too got knocked out in UCL QF's People r forgetting that Man City have absolutely no history. 1 UCL compared to Bayern's 6 Remove 2023 UCL & Man City r the ultimate European chokers. Choking in UCL Round of 16 to Monaco, Tottenham, Lyon, Chelsea & then giving up a lead of 2 goals in 2 mins in Madrid
@@mananmehta6910 Past is for history books. Right now Man City has a better team and richer than Bayern. Why are you bringing Arsenal in this debate? Bayern like lost 5 UCL finals too. But right now they are smaller because they are not as rich as City or Real Madrid.
Be hilarious if all the Chelsea lot just sat there 😂. But tbh Chelsea get decent peices. Folk should be saying you need to sell. Broja ? 39 million. What has he done consistently?
Teams aren’t afraid to spend but let’s get real RVP was bought for 32 million pounds. Luis Suarez had a 40 million release clause. Players nowadays are not worth what they are going for and the clubs have had it. They’re not biting on ridiculous price tags over 80 million for players that are not the absolute best player in the world…
To be fair man United is own by Americans so Chevy is right plus Americans watch soccer/football. Plus Americans are living in UK/stationed there. Military members buy Chevy in uk. Plus Chevy Corvette and Camaro are popular in UK like ferraris or Lamborghini is
And everyone at Chevy affiliated with that deal lost their jobs. So clearly it was a bad idea. Really should have been an investigation cause it smelled fishy from the jump.
@dwayneterry4433 Average of Chelsea 2020-2022 vs Chelsea 2024 domestic results: 2020-2022: 70 points, 66 league goals, 2x FA Cup final, 1x League Cup final 2024: 63 points, 77 league goals, 1x FA Cup SF, 1x Leagu Cup final Conclusion: The 2021 CL win means people have forgotten that Chelsea have been a borderline top four side since 2017/18 when they finished fifth in a title defence.
Clubs were previously paying too much for players who had little or no resale value.
I wonder how Gab and Jules feel being the only competent / reputable contributors on all of ESPN FC
Surely their eyes are on the prize (getting scooped up by a better network with a hefty sign-on bonus & salary raise).
You have ruined this statement by including Jules.
I agree. They're the best at ESPN FC.
So true.
They are literally journalist
Prices are down by a third - last year's 100 is 65 today.
- PSR - Spend within your means
- PL clubs then spend within their means.
- media - Are teams scared to spend... C'mon now. Teams have spent within their means. This is the new age which everyone wants.
Gone are the days of City spending big and getting ridiculed for doing so when that's really all you want.
Villa can afford to spend more but are being limited from doing so by some dumb rule - so we can expect them to struggle in the league and CL this season, negatively impacting our standing in Europe and their ability to challenge City - all for no particular reason, just some dumb random rule
City cooked their books and hid them from PL investigators for a decade so, yea they don't need to spend much now, even pointing fingers at United & Chelsea spending big trying to cope
@@yingyang1008arent they one of the teams that have spent the most in epl this transfer?
@@junioradult6219 They are restricted heavily and have had to jump through hoops - ideally they would have strengthened their squad more
No idea why we are celebrating the fact that teams like Villa are handicapped from challenging for the title
Newcastle were also in a bizarre situation last year where they went into the season knowing they were going to struggle as they couldn't deepen their squad - and they had a poor CL campaign accordingly, playing a bunch of injured and knackered players
All we are doing is encouraging clubs to find loop holes and do dodgy deals between one another - and to sell all of their academy players for pure profit
@@yingyang1008 Its not a dumb rule. Its a rule to maintain status Quo. It is doing what it is meant to do. It is an unfair rule but not dumb.
They should have salary caps and valuation caps so one player cant be valued at 200 mil
Pep is a big part of the problem with City. He will not survive with this current bunch of players unless he pivots. The biggest problem with Pep team is that his players are too small except for Rodri, Haaland and Akanji. He prefers ball carriers who are more technical but now have gotten do slow and are easily pushed off the ball. For Pep to survive He needs a formation that suits his slow pace and zonal marking. He needs to play like a CP did with a single player up front like Toney. He needs a 5-4-1. His ego would be squashed after allowing so many elite players to walk especially a Cole, Alvarez, Mahrez, and even Sterling.
Love seeing the hour long format with this duo ❤
Why is Gab wearing a Greater Western Sydney top? Is he an Aussie Rules fan?
Nah he just shops at oxfam.
was waiting for this comment, and didnt know i was waiting for this reply till now 🤣
Most random shirt on Gab. Greater Western Sydney AFL team.😂
I think the ceiling has been lowered this season, but the floor has been raised. On the one hand, you're seeing an elite talent like Osimhen potentially going to Saudi for 65M. On the other hand, you're seeing bang average lads like Jhon Duran being associated with transfer fees in the region of 40M.
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Chelsea: what’s one more player?
As a Chelsea fan, i'd say osimhen
Fail to see how it's a good thing that we are effectively making it impossible for the likes of Villa to challenge for the title - or to even do well in the CL
Under this system, it would be impossible to have another Blackburn or Leicester title winning season
Drawing the wrong conclusions perhaps arent you
I’m excited to hear more about the califiori-juls connection😮
Fees are getting back to their pre-Neymar levels. The massive jump in fees after PSG triggered Neymar’s release clause was never going to be sustainable because TV and stadium revenues never jumped as much as fees jumped, particularly with the institution of FFP.
Could be, getting more careful on signing and buying players have a major impact financially and economically of a football club. Wasting a lot of money to a player that could not even contribute, playing inconsistently (defensively and offensively), INJURY Prone, player that have issues on football clubs are not aligned to the mission/vision of the organization. Instead of letting them stay for more year or run out their contract until it last or getting loaned out, they have to talk with the managers and have a deal with them either terminate their contract or stay for a lengthy of time to convince them they are playing for their club else they must leave
The 2021 CL win means people have forgotten that Chelsea have been a borderline top four side since 2017/18, when Chelsea finished 5th in a title defence.
2017/18 - 5th, 5 points below 4th
2018/19 - 3rd, 2 points above 5th
2019/20 - 4th, 4 points above 5th
2020/21 - 4th, 1 point above 5th
2021/22 - 3rd, 5 points above 5th
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2023/24 - 6th, 5 points below 4th
No doubt in my mind that Chelsea fans miss winning the league, but five years of that frustration is on RA, not Clearlake.
Did they win the europa league or the fa cup during that time? I remember Marizio Sarri won something there
@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698Europa League 2019 slapping Arsenal 4-1.
True, very good research that I hadn’t seen before
@@HabitualLine-Stepper while the last few years of the abramovich era brought poor league results, i think the big money spent on transfers, and sum of money made on sales coupled with winning the europa league and champions league kept the chelsea's reputation high as far as public perception goes. Being a tough matchup for dominant liverpool and man city sides probably helped too.
@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698they played in more cup finals in that list of seasons than any other team in England. They played in 5 FA cup finals 3 league cup finals champions league final Europa league final 2 super cup finals club World Cup final so yeah he’s right it’s really boring and horrible to be a unsuccessful team and this is with a transfer ban and the illegal sanctions on the club that was responsible for the takeover of the ownership that caused the unstable situation and loss of the board members and back room staff. Plus the highest number of players on the injured list for 2 and a half seasons has also contributed to the loss of form.
I would use Roy Keane 's picture as loo paper. I am sure he gets in nostalgia stuff.
As a History Professor I appreciate the Paul Rivere reference
Revere
Haha, poor Jules, he still hasn't forgiven Kolo Muani for not scoring in the WC final against Argentina.
I think the opposite is true teams have been made to look after their long term finances with these 3 year accounting periods for profit and sustainability. Accompanied with rigorous enforcement of possible points deductions. It’s going to help protect our iconic clubs from being tempted to get into trouble financial waters. Look how Barcelona are fighting to keep their heads above water. The Spanish FA are doing well to make them think about their transfers and registering signings to make them take their financial obligations seriously to protect the future of both the club and La Liga.
JULES I LOVE THAT SHIRT😍😍 That was the year all Man City kits were the best!!!
Bro, the way he says O seeemen, no diddy
Different interest rate environment for the next 5 years
Look at DeGea... He thought he should be paid 100K ponds a week... And other clubs probably offered more than he was worth at half of that. LOL.
All they are doing is encouraging 'creative' accounting and dodgy deals between clubs - plus practically forcing clubs to sell their home grown players for pure profit
There's a million ways to make sure clubs aren't on the verge of going bust - this randomly determined spending limit isn't it
Felix will thrive as the #10 role for Chelsea. FourFourTwo just put out a whole video on it. If he plays in the right position it can work.
Felix is a fraud, he peaked at 20 and is declining
soon signs for some turkish side and be forgotten
Nice Man City away shirt from about ten years ago, Jules
A GWS jumper? That's new. Lol.
it should b called Gab show lol
Tbf to Spurs they should have been out of sight by the time Leicester scored. They missed so many good chances and it cost them.
Aye man it’s not my money if folks wanna spend cash or die trying I’m not here to hate
It seems that now youth is so overvalued that it's only a matter of time before young prospects' agents will demand massive wages on top of the huge transfer fees. Then, ultimately, some club will win fielding a bunch of vets on bargain deals (Raheem Sterling anyone?).
best podcast for the anglophone market. ps i pay season tickets to 1 minor league baseball and 2. Canadian junior hockey league .i think that minor league sports (league 1 and 2) in England will have a resurgence because of the fans. price for entertainment will win the end.
Need time stamps for different subjects in the show. I don't have time to listen to all of it and want to pick and choose.
Okay Karen
@@harrismazari5484 Oh, my child, ask an adult to help you figure out the context for using that phrase.
@@harrismazari5484 excellent use of the phrase.. congratulations
@@shroommcfanta2020 Thanks.
Supply and demand. Young players now overvalued
The global talent crisis at play. There are way less talented players in modern football than used to be. But agents still want to make money that's why they have to overhype what actually is at hand. Obviously, players like Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldo Phenomenon or Ronaldinho never needed any hype back in the day. They were just too good.
verbal agreements are also legally binding so i'm sure they will have many eye witnesses to the deal doubt mbappe will get that money
WHY WOULD PSG NOT HAVE THST AGREEMENT WITH MBAPPE ON PAPER?.. TERRIBLE BUSINESS MOVE.
No
I buy samsung fones because they sponsrd chelsea. Its a longterm thing brand loyalty
If Chelsea bought nobody over last few years and just kept what they produced through academy they would finish higher than they will now. Fans would have loved it
Madness. There's no such. Not a single top 6 team in the Premier league is playing with academy products, even in Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Why the heck do you people expect this from Chelsea alone. Nonsense
@@balenidumisani296 Rice, Mount, Gallagher, Timori, Guehi, Abraham, James, Chalobah, Loftus Cheek, Solanke, Cristansen, livermento, Ake , Gilmour Adoi, beat this lot
@@balenidumisani296Chelsea have the most productive academy in the sport, even overtaking Barcelona and Ajax for regularly producing top professionals. You can't compare what other teams can or can't do with what Chelsea could do with their academy players. Chelsea have academy players playing for high profile clubs like Arsenal, Man United, Man City, AC Milan, Barca, Atletico Madrid, Newcastle, Roma the list goes on... Name another academy outside of Ajax and Barca that have so many playing for massive clubs at the highest level.
@@Mal_Freeman0451 it's nothing to be happy or proud about when there playing for other teams. My point is they should have built a Chelsea team with these players. Lost generation
@@Mal_Freeman0451 chelsea buy best young players instead of developing them, United, Ajax, Real, Barca, Bayern actually develop players.
Disapointing transfer window.I hoped big clubs like Liverpool and Man City, bid around 150 million to buy Musiala or Writz from the small german clubs. Even Real Madrid got Mbappe for free, when you expect them to spend 200 million on him.
Wirtz has one year left and Musiala will have one year left next summer and neither have looked like they’re going to sign a contract so City could easily sign either one next year for a heavily reduced price/ free.
Peak delusion to think Man City is a bigger club than Bayern Munich😂🤣
@mananmehta6910 They are. They play in the EPL and spent so much on players which Bayern can't do
@@sivaramlord9151 yeah & Bayern beat exactly that same Premier League team Arsenal in UCL QF's last time with their worst team in 12 years while Man City too got knocked out in UCL QF's
People r forgetting that Man City have absolutely no history. 1 UCL compared to Bayern's 6
Remove 2023 UCL & Man City r the ultimate European chokers. Choking in UCL Round of 16 to Monaco, Tottenham, Lyon, Chelsea & then giving up a lead of 2 goals in 2 mins in Madrid
@@mananmehta6910 Past is for history books. Right now Man City has a better team and richer than Bayern. Why are you bringing Arsenal in this debate? Bayern like lost 5 UCL finals too. But right now they are smaller because they are not as rich as City or Real Madrid.
Giants games are not $800 hahahah
Global recession duhhhh
Does Gab ever stop talking 😂? Why bother having a co-host?
Be hilarious if all the Chelsea lot just sat there 😂.
But tbh Chelsea get decent peices. Folk should be saying you need to sell. Broja ? 39 million. What has he done consistently?
The Saudi's are pressuring the top leagues to enforce the rules so the players leave for higher wages in the Saudi League. 500 IQ plays.
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Cristiano can be what Cristiano wants to be...Except for a World champion 🥴
Teams aren’t afraid to spend but let’s get real RVP was bought for 32 million pounds.
Luis Suarez had a 40 million release clause.
Players nowadays are not worth what they are going for and the clubs have had it. They’re not biting on ridiculous price tags over 80 million for players that are not the absolute best player in the world…
You are Gab,and he is Juls.
To be fair man United is own by Americans so Chevy is right plus Americans watch soccer/football. Plus Americans are living in UK/stationed there. Military members buy Chevy in uk. Plus Chevy Corvette and Camaro are popular in UK like ferraris or Lamborghini is
And everyone at Chevy affiliated with that deal lost their jobs. So clearly it was a bad idea. Really should have been an investigation cause it smelled fishy from the jump.
Gab still wearing unrelated NFL gear
AFL mate 🤙
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Todd Boehly is taking Chelsea from the five star to a one-star.we need to start boycott some Match to make him know how we feel as Chelsea fans 🤬😭
He picked a crazy time to splash the cash.... Almost everyone else is being careful
you are on your own bro😊
You are on your own,
@dwayneterry4433
Average of Chelsea 2020-2022 vs Chelsea 2024 domestic results:
2020-2022: 70 points, 66 league goals, 2x FA Cup final, 1x League Cup final
2024: 63 points, 77 league goals, 1x FA Cup SF, 1x Leagu Cup final
Conclusion: The 2021 CL win means people have forgotten that Chelsea have been a borderline top four side since 2017/18 when they finished fifth in a title defence.
You do see the quality we have right? You boycott and when we start winning don’t come back