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Pro-tip: For electrical boxes, keep a box handy and you can do the cutout with only 1 measurement... Then, assuming the box is adjacent to a stud, all you need is the measurement from the bottom of the box to the floor. Take that measurement to your insulation, drop the bottom of your spare box on that measurement and cut around the box. Boom!
I've even seen installers keep wooden blocks cut to common box sizes (i.e. templates) as part of their kit.
Awesome book that gives you step-by-step photos ruclips.net/user/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt and directions to make every day project. I can see myself making a few of these projects and giving them as housewarming and holiday gifts!
Hey, Matt! For the DiY audience; you can save a lot of material (and thus money) by cutting the batts short ways when you get to odd stud bay lengths. It's a marginal labor increase for self-installation, but makes a huge difference when it comes to re-using your leftovers because they'll always be a standard stud bay width.
I didn’t get it. Do you mean for odd stud bay widths?
Yea, I meant that for any stud bays that are less than 16 inches on center, you can cut batts the short way and stack them up instead of cutting them long ways and having a long skinny piece of difficult to use batt scrap.@@vapeurdepisse
Matt, thank you for these simpler, more "DIY" videos. I've been watching your videos for years, love the building science, quality construction, and general how to. As someone who is constantly having to fix and remodeling an old home myself, these "How To" videos are my favorite! Keep cranking them out!
Great installation tips! Thanks Matt
Due to recent grass fires, near my new house location, I've decided to use Rockwool Comfort board 110, instead of Polyiso foam.
I'd love to see a similar video but an example of exterior Rockwool install with appropriate rainscreen detail!
If you still have a bit of excess leftover after all the walls and ceilings are done, then stuff the rest under the bathtub recess. It'll keep your bath water warmer for longer. 👍
Seriously... Who still takes baths other than babies?
The wife says she loves it, but she's taken like 2 baths in the last 5 years.
It's a waste of space and a waste of water.
Are you really a middle aged man sitting in a bubble bath? Do you have a rubber ducky too?
Yup I did this about a year ago! And to the guy asking if a middle aged man is taking a bath, well I’m 30 so hopefully not yet at the middle of my age but after working on my feet and with my hands all week a nice bath for the muscles is great. Maybe for an office guy taking a bath is too girly idk
@@matthewlennox9482 fair enough lol. Yeah an insurance broker taking a bath is mad sus
At the end of the day I'd rather put a product that I've paid for to use than chuck it in the skip bin. That's what's separates a good builder from a poser. And I'd rather collect an extra 10k for a house that has a big enough bathroom to fit a bath than not.
I absolutely love this show! I’m an international real estate developer/ construction management professional and all your information is GOLD! Materials Science is where it’s at! I’d love it if you could come do your show outside of the US to places like Abu Dhabi, UAE as the international means and methods would blow your mind and give the viewers an idea how other countries build. If you ever decided to do that let me know and I’ll green light you for the multiple projects I manage. Thanks for all the hard work creating this content! As a fellow Texan I’m especially proud to see the quality of builds you do in our home state, but also how you highlight the advancements in materials and craftsmanship throughout the US on the build network. Cheers Matt to you and your staff!
I would love to see a show about different building designs/methods from other countries.
Wow! That is some serious and hardcore proposition you are making to him. You must have some serious funds available at your disposal to make him an offer like that.
Doing some renovation in the basement. Rockwood is awesome.
Super easy to use and safe.
I love how it is easily shaped, for wires and smaller areas.
I would recommend this over fiberglass insulation any day.
Especially if you have kids.
The fire proofing, sound dampening, and water repellent are amazing benefits.
Thumbs up for this product.
Try it once, and you be thankful.
Finally a good video describing how to install Rockwool!
I didn’t think I’d learn something bc I’ve used this before, but never thought of this way to go around wire🤷🏻♂️.
I find the Rockwool easier to cut due to its stiffer form than fiberglass insulation. Allows for more precise cutting to allow for slipping behind outlet boxes and slicing for wires. I will never use fiberglass again.
Do they make reggaetonwool or rapwool so i don’t have to hear the neighbors?
I think your dad joke went right over this blokes head
I used this on my workshop and it makes it extremely quiet. My wife can't hear my table saw or router running when she is 20 feet away working in the garden. So you shouldn't be able to hear any rap or reggae, although I like a good reggae tune now and then.
😂
Bass is extremely hard to control but should help with the bulk of it.
I need some Grindcorewool
Thank you Matt! We are looking to use Rockwool in addition to spray foam as a "flash and batt" system in our shipping container modifications. Keep up the great content!
Did you really tip a millionaire builder 😂
@michaelcrane in the field showing how easy it is to get it done! Chase is going to really enjoy his finished studio… though the sound reflection will go back up with the finished walls. It is going to be one comfortable space.
Thanks for posting this Matt. Great way to show how easy Rockwool is to use.
Greetings Matt! We have been very thankful for your videos. We first learned about you in 2015 from a customer who wanted to build a high performance shop. We have been made aware of many products, tools, techniques, and lots of helpful info because of your videos. We are currently building a 3,400 square foot high performance home for a neighbor of ours in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We are aiming to have an ACH50 of 1-1.5. We are using many Uberwood products. Anyways, we are using R-23 rockwool for the exterior walls. I was hoping you could place a link to the exact knife you purchase off of Amazon to cut the batts. In this video it cut really easy.
Thank you for getting back with me!
Looks like the same knife I bought at home depot. I also have a Milwaukee version that cuts even better. Like a hot knife through butter. I got both from home depot
Try Bahco- its the knife most people have used worlds great-special purpose
Thank you both for replying! I look forward trying this!
Nice little beat starting at 7:07. Thanks for the tips!
The BEST tool I used for my house was an electric carving knife. (It has two blades that cut back and forth.) (You can even sharpen them when they dull, and cuts fast and straight in short time.)
I think I could do that Matt now and not be afraid to mess it up. Thanks Matt
I just redid my entire attic in rockwool. So much better than the fiberglass that was in there. When there was a wire, junction box, etc. I found it easier to just cut the batt in pieces to fit around the wires etc. It all fit up snug and will make servicing easier in the future. Granted this was in a confined space and retrofitted instead of new construction.
You need to wear a mask even when cutting or working with Rockwool.
That insulation is so much easier to work with! I just used it the first time a week or so ago but for cutting I found it easier to squish it with a level and cut with an xacto blade instead of a bread knife. Also maybe i was wrong but the electrical box i cut out I ripped in half (maybe) so I would be able to put it behind the electrical box
I was thinking the same about behind the box. But I would compress the batt even to cut it
Thanks Matt for the tips, I might be installing my own rock wool wall insulation.
Do I need to install vapour barrier before I at drywall if I’m going to install ROCKWOOL insulation?
Have used this product on several projects and love it. Just started my next room and no Rockwool anywhere.
ytubers helping out other ytubers, how cool is that.
Do you use vapor barrier with rockwool?
A bread knife! Who would’ve ever thought. Finally decided to Google a better solution to my trying to use the utility knife to cut it; only to see it destroy the Rockwool.
I think now, I could do that too! Thanks Matt!
Wow! Simple and easy 👍🏾
Sometimes great content is the simple, easy stuff we all forget about.
Great video….but how should the wall get finished?
Is a vapor barrier required before installing drywall?
Thanks!
The crossover I didn’t know I needed
Is this the genesis video for a new series, "Ask BUILD Network"? Looks good, mate.
Wouldn't you want to stuff a little scrap of Rockwool behind your outlet too, or is that to much?
Absolutely. Any bit helps protect you from the heat or cold outside, and sound transfer. Perhaps it wasn't mentioned since I believe Risinger builds (that he shows in his videos) he typically spray foams around electrical outlets or hard places like that OR he does 2" of closed cell foam, then the remainder 3" space of insulation (rockwool) to get the best of both worlds. The strength and air tightness from the foam and the cheaper but fire resistance, water resistance, and sound deadening you get from the rockwool.
do you need to put gypsum board or plywood on the inside after insulating attic roof with rockwool? If not, what keeps rockwool from falling out?
Friction fit. Oversize it half an inch. It’ll be snug.
On another video it looked like he had strapping of some sort.
Do you need vapour barrier with this product in a detached garage.
We installed Rockwool on exterior bathroom wall and used your tips. It was easy to work with. Question, we live in North Carolina and wonder if a vapor barrier is needed overtop the Rockwool prior to applying Wedi board for shower or drywall for that matter?
Good stuff. Will be doing this.
G,day from Sydney Australia.
I like the product, a lot easier to cut than fibreglass insulation.
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What about a smart vapor barrier, is it needed if you live in northeast US?
Great video. Timely for me. My plan is to Rockwool my garage walls. I live just outside Minneapolis, Minnesota. I had the attic done by a pro a few years back as the garage heater (forced air gas 11ft high ceiling mounted) was causing ice dams over the farthest third stall… the previous owner only insulated part of the attic for some reason. I fixed that…
Here is my question. The home was built in 1997. It is a well built home by a good builder. Cedar lap siding. Do I need to figure out a vapor barrier. I will be covering the walls with 3/4” finished plywood when complete. Weather up here is crazy - we have hit -25F and 103F in the same year.
Standard rule of thumb is that interior vapor barriers should be used in cold climates. Warm interior and very cold exterior is a recipe for too much moisture within the wall moving from warm to cold. Think about a cold glass sweating on a hot day. You don’t want that happening in the wall.
@@1stkeyhomebuyers thanks Seth. So in your opinion, would you suggest adding a vapor barrier against the wood of the outside wall prior to installing the Rockwool and the finish paneling? This has been my hold up on the project… that and my wife isn’t thrilled that I want to do it myself… she wants to hire it out.
@@billcunningham8485 - Hope you get the correct info & if I were you, I’d do the Rockwool myself. No need to contract a job like that if you know how to slice bread & piece’em together. I’d also do a bit of research in multiple reputable places also & not just rely on a comment posted by someone who, no offense to the person posting but, they may not know what they’re talking about. You could also try posting your question directly to Matt Risinger. Good luck on your install!
@@jam7453 Thank you. Yes I will do the research. I am actually in a weird way looking forward to doing the project myself.
@@billcunningham8485 Most manufacturers have technical people to answer these types of questions. I had several questions for the install of Huber Zip-R12 sheathing and Huber's tech people answered my questions within 24 hrs. One was - should I add a permeable vapor barrier on the inside when using Zip-R and Rockwool. They said no due to the Zip-R not being vapor permeable. If I wasn't using Zip, I would need a vapor barrier in the inside as the walls would dry to the outside.
For those who wish to jump to the installation, it's at about 7:03 marker.
Do they blow this directly to install in situ so called?
I'm building a custom home in Tennessee in 2024 and every wall and ceiling will be Rockwool...thanks!!!
There is also an actual wool knife for cutting insulation which is like 20$ or less, just so that you don't have to dull your bread knife on cutting wool insulation.
I don’t think that they’re suggesting the use of a bread knife that you actually use, but I could see that happening.
Buy a cheap-o $10 bread knife just for your insulation job. Could probably find one at a thrift store for $1 too. Definitely don't use a nice one out of a kitchen knife set.
Hello , just found your video. I will be installing the wool rock as well and was wondering if you installed any support to keep it up in the ceiling? Thank you!
@buildshow Simple question, but I can't find answers anywhere. Do you secure these batts in any way? Do you staple them in ever?
No staples friction holds the bats expand I did my crawl space years ago and every piece is still there but I had to replace the fiberglass insulation because it was falling down the paper backing gets damp and the staples pull through the paper they don't hold over time.
Almost 1M subs!
I love this
do you need to add a vapor barrier?
No
I have watched both your channels for at least five years. I would have liked to see Matt review Chase’s handy work and detailing the same way Chase reviews a bag, could have been hilarious.
Patience Grasshopper
Thanks
Matt or anyone else, do you have the link to the bread knife at Amazon? Thank you.
You can pick up a bread knife at your local grocery store cheap and it will work great rock wool cuts like butter.
I have a 3 season 1960's cottage in upper Michigan. It is tar paper wrapped and cedar lapped siding with no insulation in the walls. Can I install Rockwool in the walls? Or do I have to remove the tar paper first? Thanks!
Why is there an arrow with a mark for flexible edge? Any tips for what that means to how it's installed or cut?
That was a great video. However I noticed that when you put the insulation up on the ceiling, you left all the water pipes up on the ceiling exposed to the exterior of the roof. Depending on what part of the country you're in, wouldn't those pipes be subjected to freezing since they are above the insulation and not below the insulation?
I was telling my wife that I've always had this idea about running the flexible piping for water in the house and then wrapping the pipes with some kind of insulating bubble wrap wherever they are exposed to any of the outer part of building structure such as in the case of that video. We've had the cold flexible water line freeze in the wall to our master bath in the past even though the water lines run inside the wall.
I think there is a conditioned space above the studio not an attic space, so it shouldn't freeze. Take a look at the opening scene again and you'll see a second floor. Chase mentions that they want to kill the sound as much as possible so that's why the insulation going into the ceiling even though there is conditioned space above it.
Why is it so hard to find rockwool in dfw area?
Hello I opened up my garage wall and behind it is a drain pipe for upstairs How do I insulate around that pipe which also needs to be sealed because air is coming in now to the home
Is it necessary to caulk or foam the top/base plates, or the seams of the osb or where the studs meet the osb for the sake of a air tight seal? Or is the presence of the rockwool itself enough to reduce air flow? Going to be adding rockwool to my garage.
How about a $1 bread knife?
The rockwool can dull the knife crazy fast (it is literally made out of basalt rock) so don't be a cheapskate. Use a serrated insulation knife.
LMAO. STUPID COMMENT
for the electrical box, is there any reason why you wouldn't put a piece behind the box, before installing the main piece to keep the box insulated behind it?
No it is a good idea to insulate behind the box.
That slab is thiccccccc!
What do I do if the gaps between the rafters in my old house are quite a bit wider than the rockwool bat size?
I think they make a wider version for 24" OC bays. Otherwise you could strap the bays with long straps of 1x material perpendicular to the rafters and slip multiple pieces in behind. Or put some more rafters in to make 16" OC or smaller bays.
Cut your bats the other way they are four foot by whatever width you choose. The amount you need stays the same just a little more work on the install.
When installing this overhead in a ceiling, do just press it in between the joists or is it necessary to staple it along the edges?
Bro why don't you have your own Netflix show already...I'd definitely watch it
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So Matt what are the advantages of rockwool to spray foam? Cost wise and effectiveness?
I’m not Matt, but Rockwool is completely vapor open (advantageous for certain applications) and fireproof. Definitely cheaper than foam also.
He actually did a whole video about this
@@JohnathanBach I did my workshop in Rockwool, the stuff is amazing for killing sound coming in and going out. I would never use fiberglass again and as you said it is much cheaper than foam.
@@Bob_Betker Yes, I’m highly impressed with the sound treatment benefits.
So it's not a problem filling the whole cavity on a exterior wall?
Hey Matt thanks for the informational videos you provide.
I've got a quick question about insulation maybe you can help with. I bought a 12x24 Graceland shed/building turning it into a wood working shop and want to finish the inside with insulation & sheetrock. I've already started buying fire, mold/mildew resistant sheetrock and would like to use Rockwool insulation for fire and water resistance as well but the building didn't come with an exterior vapor barrier. DO I NEED A VAPOR BARRIER and if so how should I put one on??? Oh by the may I live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast so you know the humidity I'm dealing with..
Thanks for any input.
If you can figure out a good insulation plan for an old school brick walled home 3-4 layers with plaster interior I'd loose my mind. I've considered a rain screen interior because the brick needs to breath (I've heard) with a floor flange and weep holes Then insulation before the new drywall goes up but I'm no pro.
If you have a deeper ceiling cavity do you recommend 2 layers of Rockwool for extra sound dampening or is it ok with just one? Also how do you feel about Mass vinyl before you put the flooring up on the upper floor?
It has no Kraft paper moisture barrier, do we need to apply some product for that?
Don't use a utility knife, figured that one out the hard way.
Is the rockwool better than the pink for my garage
Is there difference between either side as far as installing
No, but each batt may include a stamp specifying information on only one side like R-value - which the inspector typically likes to be able to read.
Does anyone know if you push the Rockwool all the way tight against the sheathing or are you supposed to leave an air pocket between the insulation and the sheathing?
It will fill the entire cavity, front to back.If the surface facing you is below the stud surface, you can work it a little with the knife to pull it back out flush. Also, you can push in the middle of the batt and it will cause the edges to com back out toward you.
The batts are sized for standard lumber depth. Not like the old fiberglass that would give you 2" or 3" batts.
@@ricoludovici2825 Appreciate it! Thanks for the tips.
is that cripple under that window ok?
That floor joist insulation installation is very questionable to me. RESNET would consider that an uninsulated floor. The insulation must be in contact with the floor above. Grade 1 installation would require complete filling of the cavity from floor to ceiling below.
My floor joists are 2x8. Could I just double layer to fill the cavity fully?
We're the ceiling pieces slightly over sized to keep a tight fit and fix them in place?
*Were autocorrect is not my friend 😑
@@rhiannahardy-janisch1716 The batts give you a tight fit. They should stay up through friction alone. If they start to sag, you can. wire them up, running tie wire between the ceiling joists.
Give yourself an extra 1/8 inch and they'll stay up just fine.
@@clintforest44 I give them 1/4, but you are quite right.
@@ricoludovici2825 Will the stay up forever if I don't bother with a garage ceiling?
Love Rockwool for 2x6 and. Ifger framing. The 2x4 Rockwool insulation I am not a fan of.
Just stack 2 2x4 batts in to the 2x6 wall.
We desire to insulate a 10'X12" shed with mineral wool. We cannot find a source for a few packs of 23" mineral wool insulation. All dealers are requiring a minimum purchase of 12 packs (over $1000 and 5X the amount we need). Where can we purchase a couple packs of the 23" insulation to complete the ceiling?
Try Lowes
@@cindyp4910 Thank you. Lowes requires a minimum purchase of 12 packs. We used mineral wool batts for the walls and fiberglass batts for the ceilings (where we had 23”bays).
Order the 12 pack and only take what you need. I did this.
Matt, I really want to use Rockwool for my new shop building, but am having trouble finding what the right solution is for a post frame structure. (Since you spend time time with RR Buildings, you'll understand what I mean) What are your thoughts and/or can you connect me with a resource that can advise me? I'm not having any luck getting a response from a web site inquiry.
I know RR Buildings has a few videos about how they insulate, but I can't remember what product(s) they use.
I just did a check on products and while I didn't see a Rockwool curtain like the fiberglass RR Buildings has used (video was 3 years old), I did find a similar product from a competitor of theirs in mineral wool insulation. Johns Manville has a few options that are better suited for post frame structures and using similar techniques to RR Buildings. I would expect that being sponsored by Rockwool makes it difficult for Matt to mention their name... he might have some experience dealing with them that I'm not aware of. I just know Johns Manville is the one with a plant 30 minutes from my house and they sell similar products.
I also spotted a possible alternative over on The Build Show Network, they have a video on blown in Rockwool insulation that might be worth checking out. I've only seen that it exists, I haven't checked it out yet.
@@barjona100 Blown in could be helpful "up top", but not in the 8' OC bays on the walls. The rigid board product might be applicable, but sourcing and cost might be a challenge.
@@jimbecker5675 Why wouldn't it work with the larger bays? You would need to put your drywall/interior sheathing first but then you should be able to blow in the insulation. Typically for post frame, I have seen large rolls of fiberglass that are 4 foot wide, so you would need 2 rolls for each bay. You could use Rockwool and lay the batts on their side, so two batts laid end to end and repeat the process up the bay.
Good video! #BattArtist
I know you are in Austin Tx but I was concerned to see what appeared to be PEX piping above the Rockwool ceiling insulation. I know PEX pipe handles freezing well but the joints, which I thought I saw, don't do so well freezing. You guys had a recently had really extraordinary multi-day zero degree freezing event. That would be a disaster if there was a big ceiling leak. I've seen large ceilings collapse from a small water leak. Is Chase going to put insulate the piping in the attic crawl space or have a drain-down system?
It looks like there is second floor above the studio that is conditioned space.
Yes, missed that 2nd floor.
I didnt see any vapor barrier around that box, need to be more air tight.
Depends what part of the country, and if its a garage section that wont be heated, then you don't need it.
@@TheDirtyBirchTrails He said he is making a studio so I would think it will be used all year .
The piece that you cut out for the box, should be stuffed behind the box and not thrown away !!
its a deep 22CI box in a 2x4 wall there's no effective room left for insulation.
Rockwool product name
So I don't need to tape either?
Im married, but I can't look away...
They just lied to you about the itchy part, bro that is very itchy
Bread Knife link?
A bread knife can be picked up anywhere this is not a specialty tool.
dont you need baffles?
Would be great to see you guys doing an audio recording studio. They need to be perfectly silent. Could learn ALOT form seeing an extreme build like a audio studio.
Rockwool has a shelf life of 6 months in the bag, they say you can get it wet, and yes you can but what they don’t tell you is that you can NOT get it wet when its in the bag, i have 200 plus bags of Rockwool that is literally garbage
It will not come back to shape when you open the bag, the bats are all around 1.5” thick or less and if you squeeze it to hard it won’t come back to its shape,
Rockwool refuses to do anything
700th like!
you also didn't show anything about the ceiling...
Any builders ever use aergel to insulate a residential build?
oh dear. What was the point? Maybe do one on paint drying next??? Matt this is not what you do!
Good job…👍🏻