@@BuilderCreator Yeaaaaah I haven't informed my subscribers yet, but I quit RUclips. My last video only got a few thousand views. Not worth doing the videos anymore. I am still gonna try to do the automotive channel and see where it leads, but my personal channel is finished.
I am honoured and exhilarated to see another episode. I appreciate all your efforts to bring us content. It is a immense pleasure to see you work. The best RUclips mechanic by far. We understand your budget constraints as you explained and happy you found sponsorship this time. You are a inspiration to us all and your knowledge abundantly graces us with enthusiasm to pursue our projects. I'm glad you took the time to film your work and upload it to us to watch. God bless you.
It would have been easier to connect them in line, but who has 14 inches of uninterrupted space? The bracket does make a nice package, though. Thanks for being a subscriber.
Love this build series mate, been watching for a couple year's now. Have you considered water to air intercooler system? Using bike radiators and vw water pump or perhaps even a water to air system from a audi etc in a junknyard. Im doing something similar with my next turbo project. Love your work, cheers from new Zealand 🍻
I've looked into a lot of different things and taken the simpler or less expensive route on some things. There is always room to change out or make improvements after a few shakedown runs. Thanks for following the build.
#OneManArmy 🤯🤯🤯🤯Whether you're a mechanic, or a designer, or electrical engineer, or paint specialist, or body man, or a long list of professions, this video series is bound to teach you something
Looks like a well thought out plan for fuel delivery . Great job on the tank .I'm glad you have all your videos in order , makes it easier not to miss any .I am really looking forward to you completing this super car .
Having used a bunch of Evil Energy fittings, I can tell you they are made with softer aluminum, and don't handle the abuse of typical tightening and removal. Good luck, hope they don't leak.
With a name like Skylark Camping Adventures, it sounds like you came for Leviathan and stayed for the Arete? Thanks for any views, sports car or overlander.
I am in the UK and ours were built in Italy so we have a few in the UK. Think you can get them in the states but dies depend state by state I think. #SkylarkCamperAdventures
Its good to see that Evil Energy helped you out with a little sponsorship. I used their products on my car also and liked the quality of their products. The braided steel on the PTFE hoses were rough on the hands when installing the fittings, if you were not careful.
One of the downfalls of becoming slightly successful on YT is you get LOTS of emails for offers of "brand" deals. Almost always goods for video shout-outs. Mostly VPN services and junk like tire inflators. It's great to finally find vendors who have merchandise that is of use/interest to our audience. The black (Nylon over the steel) is a bit more forgiving and helps prevent the stainless mesh from becoming a thousand needles.
Yeah, some shots just don't work or look blurry on editing and get scrapped. Looking into black holes seams to be one of those. Maybe I could drop a flashlight in there next time?
When you mold the gastank with polystyreen foam, you can dissolve it with aceton without having to create a lid. Much less work, stronger and no chance on leaks.
I have done the acetone method before, but getting the gunky mess out through a small hole is near impossible. I have also found that if you don't line the inside, the leak likelihood goes way up. Then there is the problem of adding baffles, servicing the tank, adding filler spouts and fittings, pump and sender . . . .
I've been following the Arete project since the first day. Very inspiring and educational.Love it! I've learned a lot. I just have one question -- why the scary face every 15 seconds of work?!
wow - i learnt something - i never considered doing a fuel tank in fibreglass/carbon fibre/Kevlar, great idea, like to know what the aircraft lining is you mentioned - good to see the project moving forward another step
As long as you use the right resin system, fiber tanks are good as any. The liner is "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty.
@@BuilderCreator cool i will look that one up, i used to know a small company here in Sussex that made race car fire suppression systems, i was amused at them making pressure tanks for extinguishers - but now i understand that carbon fibre etc can be pretty resistant (well as long as it isn't a sub going deep, if you know what i mean)
I like channel, essentially the Bob Ross of cars, super chill. Can I ask why you fibreglassed the inside of the tank if you're going to line it anyway?
It's all "happy little mistakes!" Actually two reasons, first, I needed the studs around the flange edge to be laminated over and when doing a hand layup on, on the exterior, of a box like this the resin can drain away from corners leaving pinholes. Laminating on the interior; the resin tends to pool in the corners, filling said pinholes. I would like to think my detail to the corners was good, but since I was going to seal the studs and add the baffles, why not. The final coating will be for protection against the solvent action of the fuels. Thanks for watching - Bob ( I mean-Jay)
I was under the impression that fuel would eventually disolve the fiberglass. is there specific type of resin that you are using ? you also mensioned of some coating. I'm assuming that will go in the inside.
Fuels (alcohol based) can attack some resin systems (never use the ester resins) but good epoxies are usually somewhat resistant. There are some epoxy systems made just for this purpose. My epoxy is not dedicated to fuel resistance, but is "very" resistant. I will be adding "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty for special protection.
My experience is fuel cell foam seems like a good idea but in practice it starts to dissolve and cause issues within a year or two. Maybe it’s something in the different grades of fuel? Hopefully you’ll have a better experience.
Good to know. The stuff is used almost only in racing where the car is maintained WAY more often than daily drivers. Luckily I have a nice lid I can remove and multi filters. . .but I'll keep an eye on it.
Yes, there can be problems with electrons trying to trade places and take elements with them. The lid, however, will be separated by a fairly substantial silicone gasket that should slow them down.
There is a fuel resistant silicone gasket to seal between the tank and lid. Another viewer was worried about galvanic corrosion between the carbon tank and aluminum lid as well, but as you can see the silicone provides a separation between the two materials, (then again so does the epoxy coating on the tank exterior.).
As long as you use the right resin system. Do NOT use polyester resin; stick with a high quality epoxy. There are epoxy formulations made for fuel tanks, but they are hard to find and as mentioned a quality epoxy will resist most fuels. As I may run E85 (the ethanol/methanol are hard on materials) I will be lining the tank with "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty. Again I want to ask where you are from (Idaho?) we may be related?
@BuilderCreator I can’t seem to find it now but I swear I left a comment on one of your videos asking if you ever figured out how to change the torque split in your transfer box. I don’t remember seeing you address that in your videos.
When I built my Velocity airplane, it was put it on and then take it off, put it on one more time then take it off, and finally put it on permanently, hopefully.
Velocity, one of the best designed airplanes from variations in the Ratan canard genealogy. I hope all the parts are still in the "put back on," configuration. ;)
I sold it a while back, but I got the itch to build another airplane, so I picked up an RV 6 in an estate sale, and I'm going to finish that, although I'm contemplating building composite wings for it. I'm a fiberglass man.
@@Alumni6042 A lot of people think that working with fiberglass is an itchy ordeal, but if done right you can evade the itch. No evading the "itch" for us creative types when it comes to our desire to build!
@@BuilderCreator Learn to wash using just your fingernails and letting the water flow down your arms and into the drain. Does that get all of it, no. Then it's just a matter of embracing the itch to achieve your dream. Remember there's very little dust at 12,000 ft., and therefore no itch.
@@BuilderCreator when I put a part on it stays on. I was referring to having to take it off one more time. Like my prop, I had to put it on and take it off 10 times before my first flight. This next plane is going to have a composite prop instead of a wood prop. That wood prop kept losing its torque, and I had to safety wire it every time.
😂 It is funny, #bobdavis3389, it seems RUclips has you as a clairvoyant, commenting on a video 3 days before it posted. I'm sure it is just a bug in their system (time stamp is off or something), If not, maybe you have some stock advice or know the outcome of upcoming major sports events?
@BuilderCreator lol I think you mean put for foot down. But seriously i was looking for this comment as the pump whining might be insane in the cabin.. it bad enough with some brand pumps mounted in the trunk / underbody
@@jdmnuggets You guys are only worried about this because I mounted it on a drum surface! ;) We will find out. One more thing to check out on the first shakedown runs. Maybe some special aerospace vibration damper material?
Glad to see you back on the Arete Jay!
Hey David! We've both been missing from the video world lately, it seems?
@@BuilderCreator Yeaaaaah I haven't informed my subscribers yet, but I quit RUclips. My last video only got a few thousand views. Not worth doing the videos anymore. I am still gonna try to do the automotive channel and see where it leads, but my personal channel is finished.
@@DavidGuyton 😮😮😮😮
The favorite Dad of RUclips's Engineering is back in his Garage where is is giving us a friendly lesson how to turn our dreams into reality.
Thanks! You understand, we are "creating lessons on how to turn dreams into reality," not building cars.
is today the day?
It sure is 👍
Yes, today is the day!
lol. Yesterday felt like the day. But I guess it wasn’t!
Up to me every day is the day !
I am honoured and exhilarated to see another episode. I appreciate all your efforts to bring us content. It is a immense pleasure to see you work. The best RUclips mechanic by far. We understand your budget constraints as you explained and happy you found sponsorship this time. You are a inspiration to us all and your knowledge abundantly graces us with enthusiasm to pursue our projects. I'm glad you took the time to film your work and upload it to us to watch. God bless you.
Thanks, I'm glad viewers like you are out there and appreciate the effort to record the work rather than just do the work!
Well done!
Nice seeing you here
More please..... Outstanding.
Absolutely badass…
So.
Damned.
Cool
That bracket for the fuel pump and filter is nice! I wish I’d known about it when I rebuilt my fuel system.
It would have been easier to connect them in line, but who has 14 inches of uninterrupted space? The bracket does make a nice package, though. Thanks for being a subscriber.
Thanks so much for sharing. You are an incredible craftsman!! When you post it makes my day.
Makes your day- It's worth the effort then. Thanks for watching.
Awesome!!! So glad to get another fantastic video!!!
Love this build series mate, been watching for a couple year's now. Have you considered water to air intercooler system? Using bike radiators and vw water pump or perhaps even a water to air system from a audi etc in a junknyard. Im doing something similar with my next turbo project. Love your work, cheers from new Zealand 🍻
I've looked into a lot of different things and taken the simpler or less expensive route on some things. There is always room to change out or make improvements after a few shakedown runs. Thanks for following the build.
@BuilderCreator no worries mate, can't wait to see you experience the first shake down 👌
Fantastic,beats all in ingenuity,can’t wait to see more,thank you 👌
More coming next Friday!
Glad to see you have a sponsor!
Finally, some offers from sponsors who have products that match my audience, not just VPN services and phone chargers!
@@BuilderCreator I'm the biggest admirer of your sponsors!!! You know the reason )))
#OneManArmy
🤯🤯🤯🤯Whether you're a mechanic, or a designer, or electrical engineer, or paint specialist, or body man, or a long list of professions, this video series is bound to teach you something
Looks like a well thought out plan for fuel delivery . Great job on the tank .I'm glad you have all your videos in order , makes it easier not to miss any .I am really looking forward to you completing this super car .
how did you comment 3 days ago
@@sillysmeagma422 what are you talking about? I am not sure about your question
@@bobdavis3389 your comment was posted 4 days ago but the video got published only 1 day ago
Glad to see another great video. Thanks!
Having used a bunch of Evil Energy fittings, I can tell you they are made with softer aluminum, and don't handle the abuse of typical tightening and removal. Good luck, hope they don't leak.
Great to see an episode on Arete again 👍
With a name like Skylark Camping Adventures, it sounds like you came for Leviathan and stayed for the Arete? Thanks for any views, sports car or overlander.
😅 My camper would fit inside Leviathon easily! Look up a Daihatsu Hijet 👍
@@SkylarkCamperAdventures Cool! I would love to have one of those to run around the farm here! Where did you find it?
They are miles of smiles per mile, you need a Hijet truck 👍
I am in the UK and ours were built in Italy so we have a few in the UK. Think you can get them in the states but dies depend state by state I think. #SkylarkCamperAdventures
Its good to see that Evil Energy helped you out with a little sponsorship. I used their products on my car also and liked the quality of their products. The braided steel on the PTFE hoses were rough on the hands when installing the fittings, if you were not careful.
One of the downfalls of becoming slightly successful on YT is you get LOTS of emails for offers of "brand" deals. Almost always goods for video shout-outs. Mostly VPN services and junk like tire inflators. It's great to finally find vendors who have merchandise that is of use/interest to our audience. The black (Nylon over the steel) is a bit more forgiving and helps prevent the stainless mesh from becoming a thousand needles.
It's good to see some updates to this project.
Yes, even I am glad to see updates. Just finished a major remodel project; now back to the automobiles!
happy to see you get recognition from brands!
All it takes is the right brands or products that are useful to my audience, and I'm willing to share.
Great video. I would have liked to see some interior shots of the fuel cell. Good stuff!
Yeah, some shots just don't work or look blurry on editing and get scrapped. Looking into black holes seams to be one of those. Maybe I could drop a flashlight in there next time?
As always, incredible attention to detail.
Does your RUclips name reference a certain New Venture transfer case?
nice. always good to see your videos drop. thank you.
It has been a little while since one has dropped. Thanks for being patient.
Hi Jay. Great to see you. Love your work 👍
Thanks, love your consistent comments!
Good to see Arete update again! I wish Evil Energy had a way to not have so much single use plastic packaging that's going to end up everywhere.
A few Arete videos lined up for a while, stay tuned.
Great to see you have a sponsor. Just a shame they’re so keen on plastic bags. Still glad you’re back though.
Yeah, maybe they have had problems with angry customers and scuffed anodizing in the past. Perhaps some milled paper padding?
When you mold the gastank with polystyreen foam, you can dissolve it with aceton without having to create a lid. Much less work, stronger and no chance on leaks.
I have done the acetone method before, but getting the gunky mess out through a small hole is near impossible. I have also found that if you don't line the inside, the leak likelihood goes way up. Then there is the problem of adding baffles, servicing the tank, adding filler spouts and fittings, pump and sender . . . .
Awesome system.
Great work ! Thx for sharing !
Thanks for watching! Glad to take the time to put it to video when it is appreciated.
Always good to see your face
Thanks, most people come to see the car. Glad you know what is important. ;)
Love your content. You were making the funniest faces when you were fiberglassing the tank lol
A face only a mother could love, because she gave it to me!
@@BuilderCreator Absolutely! Your mother did very well!
I've been following the Arete project since the first day. Very inspiring and educational.Love it! I've learned a lot. I just have one question -- why the scary face every 15 seconds of work?!
Scary face- It keeps the parts and tools in fear, so they always cooperate!
Nice work Jay, thanks! 👍💪✌️
Gota keep the regulars happy! ;)
@@BuilderCreator 😉
wow - i learnt something - i never considered doing a fuel tank in fibreglass/carbon fibre/Kevlar, great idea, like to know what the aircraft lining is you mentioned - good to see the project moving forward another step
As long as you use the right resin system, fiber tanks are good as any. The liner is "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty.
@@BuilderCreator cool i will look that one up, i used to know a small company here in Sussex that made race car fire suppression systems, i was amused at them making pressure tanks for extinguishers - but now i understand that carbon fibre etc can be pretty resistant (well as long as it isn't a sub going deep, if you know what i mean)
I like channel, essentially the Bob Ross of cars, super chill. Can I ask why you fibreglassed the inside of the tank if you're going to line it anyway?
It's all "happy little mistakes!" Actually two reasons, first, I needed the studs around the flange edge to be laminated over and when doing a hand layup on, on the exterior, of a box like this the resin can drain away from corners leaving pinholes. Laminating on the interior; the resin tends to pool in the corners, filling said pinholes. I would like to think my detail to the corners was good, but since I was going to seal the studs and add the baffles, why not. The final coating will be for protection against the solvent action of the fuels. Thanks for watching - Bob ( I mean-Jay)
I've missed this.
instead of using the bolts for the tank lid, you could have used rivnuts?
oh Nice! engine stuff!
Yep, enough engine stuff and one day it will run. ;)
I was under the impression that fuel would eventually disolve the fiberglass.
is there specific type of resin that you are using ? you also mensioned of some coating. I'm assuming that will go in the inside.
Fuels (alcohol based) can attack some resin systems (never use the ester resins) but good epoxies are usually somewhat resistant. There are some epoxy systems made just for this purpose. My epoxy is not dedicated to fuel resistance, but is "very" resistant. I will be adding "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty for special protection.
My experience is fuel cell foam seems like a good idea but in practice it starts to dissolve and cause issues within a year or two. Maybe it’s something in the different grades of fuel? Hopefully you’ll have a better experience.
Good to know. The stuff is used almost only in racing where the car is maintained WAY more often than daily drivers. Luckily I have a nice lid I can remove and multi filters. . .but I'll keep an eye on it.
How much fuel does that cell hold? I reckon about 5-6 gallons?
Just shy of 8
Could Evil Energy use any more plastic packaging, really?
Yay!!!
How do you learn all of this?
Nice work. How will you mitigate the galvanic corrosion between the carbon fuel tank and the aluminum lid? Carbon eats aluminum in weeks not years.
There will be a healthy silicone gasket between lid and tank.
what about galvanic corosion? from what I heard, aluminium and carbon doesnt play well together
Yes, there can be problems with electrons trying to trade places and take elements with them. The lid, however, will be separated by a fairly substantial silicone gasket that should slow them down.
@@BuilderCreator glad to hear
What did you use between the aluminum plate and the tank?
There is a fuel resistant silicone gasket to seal between the tank and lid. Another viewer was worried about galvanic corrosion between the carbon tank and aluminum lid as well, but as you can see the silicone provides a separation between the two materials, (then again so does the epoxy coating on the tank exterior.).
checked the channel randomly... a new video 3 hours ago??!!!!
Random check pays off . . . . You should run out and play the loto! ;)
@@BuilderCreator lucky enough to have your videos!
I had to make a gasket for the tank lid due to fumes.
I was wondering about composite fuel tanks. Are there any materials I need to avoid when making a composite fuel tank?
As long as you use the right resin system. Do NOT use polyester resin; stick with a high quality epoxy. There are epoxy formulations made for fuel tanks, but they are hard to find and as mentioned a quality epoxy will resist most fuels. As I may run E85 (the ethanol/methanol are hard on materials) I will be lining the tank with "Bill Hirsch alcohol/ethanol resistant fuel tank liner" sold by Aircraft Spruce and specialty. Again I want to ask where you are from (Idaho?) we may be related?
@@BuilderCreator I’m from Utah but my grandad was from Idaho.
Sorry I didn’t see that you had responded to my comment, apparently RUclips doesn’t notify me when responses are made.
@BuilderCreator I can’t seem to find it now but I swear I left a comment on one of your videos asking if you ever figured out how to change the torque split in your transfer box. I don’t remember seeing you address that in your videos.
How much fuel does that tank hold? Doesn't look like you will be driving vary far.
Just shy of 8 gallons. Room on the driver's side to add another 4+ if I see the need in the future.
When I built my Velocity airplane, it was put it on and then take it off, put it on one more time then take it off, and finally put it on permanently, hopefully.
Velocity, one of the best designed airplanes from variations in the Ratan canard genealogy. I hope all the parts are still in the "put back on," configuration. ;)
I sold it a while back, but I got the itch to build another airplane, so I picked up an RV 6 in an estate sale, and I'm going to finish that, although I'm contemplating building composite wings for it. I'm a fiberglass man.
@@Alumni6042 A lot of people think that working with fiberglass is an itchy ordeal, but if done right you can evade the itch. No evading the "itch" for us creative types when it comes to our desire to build!
@@BuilderCreator Learn to wash using just your fingernails and letting the water flow down your arms and into the drain. Does that get all of it, no. Then it's just a matter of embracing the itch to achieve your dream.
Remember there's very little dust at 12,000 ft., and therefore no itch.
@@BuilderCreator when I put a part on it stays on. I was referring to having to take it off one more time. Like my prop, I had to put it on and take it off 10 times before my first flight.
This next plane is going to have a composite prop instead of a wood prop. That wood prop kept losing its torque, and I had to safety wire it every time.
Pretty sure im gonna be 85 years old before this project gets done
Great to have older gentleman like yourself following the channel!
Are you 84?! Wow! 😂
I'm 27
Is this year the year? Just too long.
SMALLTANK..~ 4-5 GAL..? Huh..?
Maybe twice that at least..?
Hmmmm
Just shy of 8 gallons. There is room on the driver's side to add a smaller 4 gallon tank if I decide I need some range/endurance.
@sillysigm I commented on the video because I watched the video.Why would I comment on something I didn’t see?
😂 It is funny, #bobdavis3389, it seems RUclips has you as a clairvoyant, commenting on a video 3 days before it posted. I'm sure it is just a bug in their system (time stamp is off or something), If not, maybe you have some stock advice or know the outcome of upcoming major sports events?
I wish I did have some stock advice for you 🤣
Nice
Mounting the pump on that fire wall is going to make a lot of noise?
I'll turn the radio up!
@BuilderCreator lol I think you mean put for foot down. But seriously i was looking for this comment as the pump whining might be insane in the cabin.. it bad enough with some brand pumps mounted in the trunk / underbody
@@jdmnuggets You guys are only worried about this because I mounted it on a drum surface! ;) We will find out. One more thing to check out on the first shakedown runs. Maybe some special aerospace vibration damper material?