ACTUAL FIX for the INSTAX Mini FLASHING ORANGE Lights?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- I recently tried to fix up a few of these FujiFilm Instax Mini 9's and Mini 11's, and found that the orange flashing lights problem was VERY common!
Most of the "fixes" online tell you to change the batteries, and yet there are still loads of people where the problem persists.
#spoiler it's nothing to do with the batteries...
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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I fixed my battery charger. Couldn’t have done it without your inspiration. I even said solid in a deep voice when I poked the terminals. So proud of myself. I ruined one pair of jeans, but it’s okay they were only new.
I live for hearing you say “Get In” . I’m in the US and it’s not really a thing here but I’ve been saying it for months ! Lmao 🤣 😂. As a matter a fact I work on pinball machines and I was able to diagnose and fix a shorted board the other day and I waved my fist in the air and yelled “Get In” across the house . Thanks for pushing through and figuring it out ! Well done sir !
Note that the faulty chip is a SoC that has flash memory with software in it. Even if you buy one new, without being flashed with the proper software it won't work, as it would be the same as a computer with an empty hard disk: no operating system, no computer.
Having a donor is the easiest way to replace this chip, but if no donor is found, there may be a way to produce new chips: If the flash memory in the SoC is not marked as read-only, it can be dumped. With a dump, you can flash a brand-new SoC. For dumping you should find a JTAG on the board and connect to a computer. To flash, the usual is doing it with a development kit for the chip.
I love your dedication and research people like you are what make engineers proud if enough people see this video you could save 1000s of items from landfill awesome achievement so many engineers don't have the time or patience to do this keep up the amazing work.
What is the use of your comment? This is a microcontroller, as you can read, it needs to be programmed and it has flash storage inside, do you know the code that they flash? Do you have access to that? Will "1000s of people" have a programming device for this chip and a soldering skills to repair it? I guess: NO. It just worked because he took it out of another camera, so where is the point to make one work and the other one is dead then, it's not a repair, it just shows what causes them to fail without showing a proper solution to really fix it.
some ones a grumpy little solider today to cure you must first understand some one may have the knowledge and equipment to read and or flash these chips now its a know source of the issue also even if it needs to be removed from a device with other parts damaged or broken and this chip is harvestable it could still save 100s of products.@@stefanegger as for the use of the comment its to congratulate some one I've watch and spoken to may a time to keep working on devices and learning and helping others understand its called being a nice person.
@@stefanegger And will 1000's of people have a use for this camera? I wonder though wether just reflowing the the chip would be enough. Has the wiff of a product that would bought the first "film" used up and the camera subsequently being put in a drawer never to see the light of day again other than pssibly in a video like this or a Techmoan video about failed and obsolete formats.
@@stefanegger Why are you so angry? Strange.
@@MrCalldean There's a lot of these comments from angry "experts" on techie videos, people just love believing their right in a war they make themselves.
Taking pictures of where all the wires go is an excellent trick. It also works for when changing caps on something. Wish I thought of that when changing caps on my old flat screen computer monitor. It's been at least two years since I tried fixing it and it's still in pieces in the garage. One day I'll get around to fixing it and I'll have an extra monitor.
Helpful tip for you. When working with small components (surface mount) try holding down the components with a toothpick and then tape the toothpick in place. Cheers
But the components flying away is an important part of these videos!
You could get a target board and use something like CS+ to connect to the device and read most of the memory, the exception being the flash sectors that are reserved by the debugger. They likely set security bits to prevent that, but you never know. Then you could buy some replacements and program them.
Awesome
Your skills and patience are next level. Fascinating to watch you work. Nice
Thank you for this solution! This will be very helpfull for a lot of people! This is the kind of things that make the youtube repair comunity awesome!
I doubt it will be helpful, because you can't get the chip as a replacement part. It's good to know why it failed, but it's very likely not fixable, if you don't manage to get your hands on a camera with a broken lens or something as a donor.
To be fair, you may not know everything about everything when it comes to electronics, but you know just enough to make you dangerous and your personality makes every single video precious to my viewing Pleasure!!¡!!!keep it up!!! please and thank you!!! Well done!!
1:24 Bad idea. Never remove a good component and put it on a suspected faulty board because if something damaged the component on the faulty board, you just damaged the good component too. Always take the suspected faulty component (EDIT: after verifying it’s not shorted) and put it in the good board. That's a much safer way of testing. That being said, great job finding the issue!
I’m not sure I understand the logic here. By putting a single known good component on a bad board, then you are risking just the one component. Whereas by putting a suspected bad component onto a good board is risking damage to multiple known good components/ damage to the good board. This will potentially ruin the usefulness of what was previously a known good board to be used for comparison against faulty board, or for a source of known good parts. Why is risking one component a less safe way of doing it, versus risking damage to a known good board and multiple other good components?
Let’s look at it this way. Say you have an airplane with a single Comm radio. It’s inop. You just happen to have another plane with the exact same Comm system on hand and you want to swap the Comm transceivers to figure out if it’s the transceiver or something else causing the issue. You would NOT want to put the transceiver from the working aircraft into the non-working aircraft because if there was a short or something that damaged the original transceiver, you will damage the other transceiver from the good aircraft by installing it in the bad aircraft. Then you end up with two bad transceivers and are no closer to the solution.
You always want to put the suspected bad component in a good system to rule out. In this case, you’d want to put the suspected bad transceiver in the good airplane to see if it’s the transceiver or something else. Hope that makes more sense.
@@MikesArcadeMonitorRepairdon't worry your first explanation made perfect sense to me and I 100% agree lol. I never knew you watched stez as well haha
Yup!
These cameras aren't worth much. Not to mention... he checked for shorts before hand.
This camera journey has been fascinating
Nicely done Steve
Pulled one of these out the e-waste bin at work. Thanks for solving the mystery! Why couldn't Google have put your video first above all the unhelpful "change the battery" results?
The amount of time u put into these is unreal. I'd of given up and binned the lot lol.
Well done for your patience trying to get as many fixed as u can , great that u narrowed it down to that little chip.
i think dave is now officially the most photographed woodlouse in the world.....im getting on the phone to norris mcwhirter! 😂😂
good job on sussing the fault out!
Brilliant I knew you would crack it well done Steve 😊
Superb bit of detective work there mate. Seriously well done!
What was the flux you used in this video? It seems very transparent.
I really enjoyed your Video, thank you for sharing.
I also bought an malfunctioning instax mini 9 two days ago and tried to fix it. When I saw your video I got sad because I don't have the tools like you do but I wanted to fix this Thing so badly. The good thing is: I had a different Problem :D
It had no flashing lights when i started it, but when i tried to take a picture it made a werid sound (like a chicken or something) and the lights began to blink.
I bought like 5 different types of batteries, didn't work.
I screwed it open but everything seemed in the right position an was fine. I even heard the flash loading when i started it.
Then I discovered like 5 sand corns above the batterie pocket where the gearwheels are and cleaned them up but that was not enough. But when I pushed the weels slightly to the bottom while taking a picture it works! I also can take like 10 Pictures before it gets stuck again. Now i try to clean them good so it won't happen anymore :)
Love the galaxians audio at 1:20 😁
Always makes me wince seeing you take those things apart knowing theres a 300v cap behind it. Stready hands required not to brush the contact as you take the housing off...
Love it you genius makes no difference to my life but tho but watching you solve these issues is some what cathartic and satisfying 😅 wish I could it tho 😢 plus you do make me laugh once in a while. 😊
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Wasn't the optical sensor from good and bad board mixed and accidentally swapped? And by the way, sensor swap was easier to do so i don't understand why not to start with.
good find and good fix. Your videos are greatly entertaining im almost done the last few years worth.
I worked in a jessops printing lab as teen, had to break apart the disposable cameras to get the film, nobody warned me about the capacitors. The whole shop heard my learning experience.
Did you try the fission chips?
The video froze for a moment right when you said “This is now safe to work…” I was waiting for a jump cut of getting shocked. Took me a moment to realize it was just lagging.
Hi could I just know where u could get the known board???
Great tunes today. That first one was an especially tasty jam.
Yo Steve what was that jam in the middle
300V from a capacitor is fairly mild as far as "zaps" go... there is is far, far worse out there. I'm in the 10kV from an insulation tester club. The initiation is brutal.
Yeah not something to really brag about. Had a friend who got zapped by a CRT anode cap, he was out cold for an hour before his wife found him passed out on the floor.
Steve, great job!
Thank you for this video!
Where I can buy this motherboard or microcircuit?
Great find!
The gift that keeps on giving 😂
Great job do you happen to have the numbers on the microcontroller chip I know you put it up on the screen but I can't tell what the numbers are it's a little bit too blurry I'm having the same problem with my camera thanks Bob
I wonder if it is worth trying to shame Fuji film into telling you what that chip is (& where to get a replacement)? Surely they don’t want to be responsible for so many cameras going to landfill .... and the must be looking to make their money from selling more film? Can’t imagine someone having had one of these cameras fail on them would be likely to buy another.
Well done for sticking with the repair. Big bundle fixes are a good way to go.
Happy New Year !!😊
They make their money selling the film, the camera's are pretty much throw away.
Same with printers and ink, it's cheaper to by a new printer then new ink cartridges.
Take the dyno lablewriters, these things have DRM baked into the rolls of stickers these days😮
Nice job!
I hate it when i find a fault, proove it ,then find out its a programmable part & unobtainable.
Nicely done! 👍🍾
Excellent discovery :)
@StezStix Fix? 10:10 Wasn't the Square Chip the one that failed and not the Rectangular one?
@StezStix, 10:09 you're showing the wrong chip there... that chip isn't the faulty microcontroller but the flashy chargy thingy. Also, looking at the block diagram, there's software in the controller, so changing a faulty controller with an off the shelve one isn't going to work.. you'd need a programmed controller from another camera with a different fault for those to be direct swaps. Having said that: kudo's for the unwavering faultfinding dedication. 🎉
He could probably rig up a interface board to dump the firmware and program replacements. I'm super super skeptical there is any sort of protection whatsoever on these.
10:11 - Nope, that's the IGBT you are showing on your finder. Not the main micro processor :)
Yes!
Can nobody tell me the name of the second bit of music?
Yes, you found it. Now millions of disappointed users will send in their cameras to you to fix it...
Well-done.👍📸📸📸
cries this might be really the cause. help my instax
Well done lad order some of those chips then ehh
I wonder if theres some (flash driver) high voltage leakage, taking out the micro in these things?
If so thats a design flaw.
Holy F/&% your blue Location Board is dirty 🤣 i watch all of your clips and i love them . today i see that.
An epic saga
Im definitely no expert but if the chips have different numbers/letters does that mean different batches or newer versions of that chip?
Great stuff! Regards
Omg how my camera can have this issue when i just used it twice in my life, and never touched again for 2 years untill now, and now you tell me this thing has a rubbish chip, omg mate they don't make this things like the good old days
Well discovered. Probably nothing, but looking at what appears to be no-fit components around that micro, C53 appears to be on the reset pin. I'm sure someone with a year to spare can analyse whether the micro is being reset properly on power-up.
if you close it? there will be a reset
@@АндрейМолдованцев Pull down for at least 10us, then release. There are multiple other reset mechanisms in that micro, based on supply voltage levels (which is asking for trouble in battery-powered devices, in my opinion).
@@ralphj4012 there is a mechanism for resetting the error by some kind of programmer, either arduino or AVR. Can someone tell me how to do this?
@@АндрейМолдованцев Sorry, no idea. The issues shown in this video seem to be poor reset, in my opinion.
@@ralphj4012 It's much more serious than that
!AWESOME!
You wouldn't let it lie would you Steve
Now thst you have solved the mystery you must convert into a chip swapping channel and fix all the cameras of the internet.
7:49 Renesas RL78 CPU.
New video, woooho!
@StezStix Fix? Where can I purchase the tool you used to discharge the capacitor?
Hello @nilomyki this is a discharge pen , enter that into a search engine and it will be the first thing that appears.
@@capnoname4223 Did that - Thanks.👍
Take the chip from the broken camera and fit it to the working camera, that way your not breaking the good camera
I like to be as Clever as you and Clive, but the soldering iron worries me as components are delicate.
I wonder if the battery blame was just the company pushing the blame elsewhere
I really wish FUJI would just sell a stanalone mini printer. I'd love to make my own stickers and poloraids but don't wanna pay for another mediocre camera module.
If this is the microcontroller then is likely programmed and you wont be able to juat buy a replacement. Still interesting but probably not much of a workable fix without donor boards
Sometimes you got to break things to fix them.....
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I see the problem, it's pink.
So the thing that failed... was (the most) expensive part of the camera, a CISC cpu... uh, great job Instax, you've created a huge pile of expensive ewaste.
No rap? What!
Wonder why that chip is failing on hundreds of cameras?
Hopefully you won't suffer any flashbacks to this nightmare.
You made a repair video on something the manufacturer didn't care enough. Look at the ton of e-waste caused by this. But.. economy! The need to sell more, don't they?
I love your videos I watch them all the time. I came across a bunch of vintage ic chips they can be yours for the cost of shipping. If your intrested can I have your email address. Then I can share pictures of them. Then if your still interested you can give me your address and we can arrange shipping payment thru email. Cheers!
Where and what exactly are you "Getting In"?
Couldn't spare the extra pennies for a schottky array, Fujifilm? Just gaslight users about batteries?
stupid chip(s):)
Get in what/where?
much much better music. i hated the other rap stuff. i find your stream interesting to watch.
So there is nothing stupid about this camera?
Because you didn't day it on the end of the video. I am going to do it for you. "Stupid chip"
Stupid chip!
Is it just me, but I can never see videos top right of the screen when said...or is this a long standing joke?
You have "i" symbol on the top right that you can click and have links to the videos he mentioned.
@@BRANDMAWCheers...not on my Android unfortunately...only "autoplay", "settings and "Cast"..
No worries...but Happy Holidays
No singing? Unsubbed
stupid camera chip thingy
"Very very nasty shock", in fact it's enough to kill you
capacitor
ok, ok, chip..
I remember dismantling a disposable camera years ago to see how they are made up and learnt the hard way they give one hell of a shock 😂
i remember seeing a video online of a guy converting one into a taser, so that taught me not to play with them lol
1000s of us! Same
Same here
Damn, I was harvesting them for coil gun components and got shocked. Fully charged capacitor left a huge blister on my fingertip, honestly don’t know how I even did it because I wasn’t near the cap.
I found out it was possible to charge up a photo flash capacitor with one of those electric fly swatters. I arced it on a pair of nail clippers and it left two burn marks. Gnarly.
The 2nd (faulty) chip that you removed is the same type of layout as many of the chips I see at work in the repair department, because of the world chip shortage, the chips are being dragged out of all sorts of places and these in particular are prone to oxidised pads leading to the solder joints not flowing correctly onto the chip pads,.
You can see how brown the pads are before you removed it, I'd take a guess that the chip could be OK but just needs reflowing properly.
I'm of the same opinion - some sort of contamination on either the PCB (not as likely) or the IC pads (more likely), especially on the centre ground/heatsink pad. Given that it's a pre-programmed MCU, there's going to be no off-the-shelf replacement from common stock - it can only come from Fuji or another PCB, as only they have the binaries for it.
Actual. Fix. For. The. instax. Mini. Flashing. Orange. Lights. ?
Maybe the IC is OK. Maybe you just need to reflow the chip (bad soldering). You could try it on another camera that doesn't work
Good idea
Was thinking the same. To try the "bad" chip on the purple's board
Yes, could be faulty device or faulty installation. Send in more Instax!
Yup very possible. Good thinking
I tried reflowing, but all the lights keep flashing. Did not work.
My daughter has one of these and it was orange blinking just like this one. I assumed it may be the micro controller looking chip but had no way to check or replace it. Your analysis convinced me that this is the issue but I could not imagine what will damage the chip and have very few options, so I used a pointy tip soldering iron, touching the solder joints one by one trying to get the solder a little higher up the chip to the exposed copper leads, while the batteries are installed and everything is still wired up and at one point it just came to life and now it works. Thanks!
I mean… anybody else remember that time he found a fault in certain gameboy cartridges that some of the legs on some of the chips weren’t properly attached and just needed to be reflowed?
@repairwins he’s kinda scarily good at finding these things