I'm from one of the South East Asian countries occupied by Imperial Japanese Army during WW2. From the media that I consumed since I was a child I associate the katana more with WW2 than the bayonet. Really, look at any WW2 movie and you see Japanese officers with their katanas held high leading a bayonet charges or kamikaze pilots carrying katanas into their final flights. Jukendo, however, looks like typical military bayonet fighting style that the rest of world practiced. I guess the katana has the privilege of being held at a higher cultural value than the lowly bayonet even though they were both brutally utilized in the war.
Honestly I don’t see a problem with it. In my own journey with the martial art I practice with is weapons based I see things in a different way. To me you can make a distinction between a weapon and the negative history behind it. I think practicing with it can have positive benefits too (in many ways). That’s just me though.
The past is meant to be learned from, people shouldn't hide from it. Should we ban hands because we can make a fist to strike or money because it could buy prostitutes and drugs? Its about the decision to use those things negatively. For Budo its about learning and making yourself better and money can be used to better your life style. Both things are Tools that have the potential to harm or enrich lives. Your choice.
@@Jerkface79 I agree with you, to me, Jukendo is in a way, a mixed martial art (considering how shogo explained in the video), with it combining Japanese spear/yari techniques and kendo theories. Another thing I like to add is a quote heard about, to support your claim of not hiding from the past and instead learning from it, "Those that can not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it."
It's sad, the spear is essential mankind's quintessential weapon that began out ascent to the top of the food chain. I think teaching Jukendo in the same sense that it should be used to defend rather than attack people should be the effective basis to change the mindset about it.
It may be of interest that my russian fencing teacher had lessons in bayonet fighting at his school in the 1950s. I would have no problem with anyone who wants to practice it. At the end it is not really different to the other MARTIAL ARTS, which all started as weapons training.
I'd LOVE to see a live Jukendo match. It sounds very interesting. It seems the word "ju" has a LOT of meanings. I didn't know that it was used for rifles as well. I wonder if it's related to the meaning as a "curse or magic spell" or even "cheating" perhaps...so much to unpack here. Great video buddy!
different ju: 銃剣 (juu-ken = bayonet) vs. 呪文 (ju-mon = spell), so it's not actually a homonym in japanese as the u is long in jūkendō and short in jumon.
I agree with you, Shogo. I'm a naginata player, former kendo and iaido student, and have looked into jukendo. A couple of friends of mine, also former Australian Army, study jukendo and find it fascinating. For adults, sure, it's a fine martial art, but it's not the best for a compulsory school setting. I think students need to learn more about what happened in the 1930's and 40's, but that's another subject. Thank you once again for another fascinating video!
This opens an interesting topic. Can you shed light on how Japanese feel about WW2 and how it effects Japan today? I always felt that Germany was very open about their role in WW2 whereas Japan seemed to want to forget about it.
We might be open but saying stuff about the 3rd reich can get you in prison here Just last month they had a 96 year old women taken out of the place where the old people go (many good english) to take her on trial for being a secretary in a concentration camp. And everywhere we go it is always with us. The japanese focus more on what happened around japan, a lot of japanese teens don't even know what the swastika means in europe and america. Saw a video on that a few days ago
@Jo Jo I dont think, a 6 year old woman shoul be too old to be put on trial for warcrimes, i heard from an old guy that when found was too sick to be put on it. Its still only putting peopl on trial that can be , and i doubt that woman can realistically maybe she was just questioned.But yes they were still searched. Just thre are limitation if soe old person can be put on trial for it healthwise. .,Plus time witness die all pretty much due age now.
Not only japan. Many things in many countries never were worked on. The only way to somewhat built goo resistence against it happening again, is work it out and change the culture inevitable with it. Which i guess is scary. It is scary but till good to know and informative and educates on faschism and how easy it is to happen, scary easy, . Like anothr country that never did tht, was the us, and the info there is not censored, it just never was properly adressed. And it shows. Japn maye need to adress it sometimes.
I felt that people that are interested in Jukendo as an art should practice the Jo short stuff (Jodo). The basis of Aikido’s Jo techniques come from Jukendo. As a Budo in the context or sport to learn the value of winning and losing, Jukendo is nice to have just like Kendo.
I’m not Japanese so while I understand that it is not my place to comment on these things I feel compelled to say something on this. I come from a small island nation and learning about Japanese history and the Meiji restoration in particular has always been inspirational story of nation building to in my eye l. Japanese people today have inherited a rich and exalted history with a highly sophisticated culture like no other in the world and they should be proud of their history ALL their history. I say this only out of respect and with much love to all Japanese people and their beautiful country.
It's just a kind of prejudice, it's a path originated from a technique. How you make use of it must be taught as any other bujutsu or budo. Budo and bujutsu are mementos from times of fighting and horror, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat it, the truth is that they are techniques to kill or incapacitate your enemy. It must be taught to be used in a better way, as to protect yourself and those who you love
Jukendo is part of your history, japaneese peaple dont must regret about it, must remember and learn. Jukendo dont have "more bad values than kendo" today is a sport some Kinder of gendai budo, and a oportunity to learn about mistakes. Great video
You guys are lucky that Martial Arts is a mandatory part of the educational curriculum. In our case here in the Philippines, Filipino Martial Arts are not being taught with a deeper understanding there is only like a back-to-back page about FMA.
I think the other budo martial arts are far enough removed from their militaristic past that they are ok to teach children but jukendo is not there yet… but I think it’s interesting that it exists! I’d be curious to see what it looks like.
In order to fight with a bayonet/Juken you have to have 4 things 1. My enemy is out of ammunition 2. I am out of ammunition 3. My enemy is willing to fight with a bayonet 4. I am willing to fight with a bayonet. Bayonet fighting in combat is unlikely. Of course, I am so old, I remember when there was a rifle range in the basement of my school.
I admire a peaceful Japan, I don't admire a harmless Japan. Japan should practice Jukendo even if they are peaceful. Peaceful means you are against aggression, but are strong and can defend yourself. Being incapable of causing damage isn't being peaceful, it's being harmless. That's the reason your budo arts are beautiful, peace focused but capable of defeating your enemies. While I admire Japanese's Budo arts, I see them as unpractical for reality in this era. We do not use swords anymore, and few nations in the world still have a deep relationship with swords. Guns and bayonets on the other hand are a still relevant weapon in the world stage at this time. Americans have their own version of Iajutsu, instead the art involves a pistol. Drawing and firing from seated position in car, from standing, in a space limited position, etc. Also milsim airsoft games can often be seen as substitute for battle practice. Japan is a peaceful land and its inhabitants kind, there is a near ZERO percent chance you will have to defend yourself with Iajutsu and Iado with a sword in this era. For the rest of the world, there is a greater than Zero chance knowing quick draw with a pistol can save your life or the life of someone you cares about. Japan is at peace right now, but for how long? With that said, the only weapon focused Budo art that isn't obsolete and anachronistic is Jukendo. The Samurai of the Sengoku eras quickly used guns to adapt and overcome. Modern Japan needs to adapt and overcome as well.
I think teaching it would be alright, it's no really different from spear fighting or soujutsu which also has a deep history. It could also be a good way to remind people about the history and to say hey we've moved on from this past but we mustn't forget what we've done. Weirdly enough historically Jukendo was used by other militaries during the same era, notably the Communist Chinese Guerillas who captured soldiers to teach them bayonet fighting. All in all, i particularly don't see as to why Jukendo would be anymore harmful, afterall during WW2 another popular demonising image of a Japanese soldier was him with a sword or Guntou at the time.
As a dork myself, "Gunblade" martial arts... I see no problem :P In the states we have a program in many schools called ROTC which is pretty much a military primer to give one a jump start on that career once they graduate, I can see Jukendo being a good sport for such programs if Japan has such programs offered to their highschool students.
HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) primarily ranges from as early as post-Roman Europe to as recently as early 1900's, and depending on who you ask, you'll get various reasons as to why any particular period in that time-frame isn't particularly "good". In spite all of that, though, people are still willing to learn forms of sabre and smallsword from when England ruled the world. A bit of proper training might help in correcting the public perception of jukendo in a more modern context
I think it's a bit more complicated with that. The Japanese soldiers of WW2 were slaughtering innocent people with bayonets within the lifetimes of people today. And a lot of them. There are pictures of it so the visual elements are very strong for people in Asia. Bayonets were usually used to kill unarmed people or finish off wounded people. Sword fighting can at least be seen as fair combat. If you can separate it from history, it's just another sport. I'm just saying it's hard to do that for many people considering the context it arose in Japan.
I think it depends on what's taught along with jukendo. If the instructors are teaching their students that they must learn jukendo in order to help Japan once again rise in military might, invade other countries, and do things like have another beheading competition in Manchuria, then no. If the instructors are saying that jukendo is a valid martial art but that it arose during a period Japan must never morally return to, then I don't have a problem with it. Policing that would be difficult, though.
I am a Kendoka and have heard of Jukendo. Bajonett fencing is a relict from the second world War, but If you are aware of that it's just another martial art
I think jukendo might be a good introduction to Japan's relatively recent military history. From talking with friends, it seems like young Japanese people are least knowledgeable about the 1920s through 1940s because the conflicts of the time are still sensitive subjects. If a child is not mature enough to understand that context, it's probably not the best idea to teach jukendo to them at such a young age. However, if an adolescent wanted to learn it and they were willing to educate themselves on Japan's past, it might be less of a problem. Then again, the latter might be the start of a new militaristic Japanese culture, so I see why it's still debatable...
A secound mined, some claim jukendo can get you injured, but how is it with sumo? There you have to gain alot of weight, and you body defentely cause injuries.
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Very interesting video. Especially about jukendo. The reason I say this is that my father was in Japan back in the 1950s. While he was in Osaka he visited the shrines and learned jujitsu. As for jukendo. Like any martial arts. I think it depends on one's intentions that makes it good or bad. If one uses it to protect others as well as use it for strengthen one's mind and body. It is good. If one uses it to inflict pain on others to control them. And do other deeds. Then it is bad. This is of course my point of view. Nonetheless a great video. Thanks for posting this.
Musashi says you must always bear in mind that you can clench your left hand and thrust at the face with your fist. And also you ought not to forget to stab at the face, when the opponent becomes rigid, they become rideable, when they become rideable, multiple opportunities for winning become available.
Thank you for the video Shogo! I found a jukendo video on RUclips several years ago, and I have been interested in it ever since. I tend to agree with the federation in that jukendo is at least mostly “demilitarized” with my main reason being that the mokuju is significantly longer than a modern military rifle. That said it was interesting to hear people’s objections to it being taught in schools, and I can understand why people would feel this way. Does the JSDF mostly have an insular culture where it has different habits and tastes from the average Japanese person, or is jukendo just an outlier in this respect?
This is my first time coming across Juukendo. I can understand why people would be against it. It's a martial art associated with a militarized time. I know I wouldn't want that reminder either. As a foreigner, though, we would only view it as just another martial art form, but I can understand why Japanese parents, who would be more knowledgeable of it, would have an issue. If I were a parent, I wouldn't want my child doing that either.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 Kendo seems milder and it was conceptualized during an era with little warring conflict. Juukendo seems to be a bit different if viewing it from that perspective. Also with Kendo you’re not jabbing and stabbing. I wouldn’t want my kid participating for that reason.
@@ssjup81 I agree. but still, edo era is, albeit the omnipresent romantism and strong philosophical approach that comes with peace, still very militarised. It is also not exactly the golden age of democracy or personal freedom either... And kendo(or likewise) are still essentially a killing art. You are stabbing (thrusting) in epee or fleur fencing too. As long as hands and face are protected it's not that big of a deal to be honest. You barely notice when you lose points...^^ Depends on how long, rigid and heavy the weapon is,i guess.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 Bayonets are used to kill injured or unarmed opponents and there is a lot of war imagery associated with bayonets, specifically from the Imperial Japanese slaughtering people. The Katana or any sword on the other hand is easier to view in the context of war and dueling instead of slaughter.
Jukendo interests me as a martial art. If a decent gun-sword is created there would be a martial art focused on the use of that weapon. The Bayonet is not an interesting weapon to me though. From a cultural standpoint I agree with the Opinions of the people that worry of its cultural impact to an extent. Japanese people understand the Japanese mindset best and you guys would know if something will influence the populace. From my perspective it does seem that Japanese are very eager to fully embrace all aspects of the things they are interested in, so Jukendo's roots in WW2 totalitarianism is definitely something to be wary of.
I think the arguments are really weak against Jukendo. Like you said, Budo, by its very nature, came from violence. That violence was used to maim or kill. It was also used to protect. If Kendo can exist in schools, I think Jukendo should be able to exist. Just because you are capable of violence, does not make you a bad person. A good person is someone who is capable of violence but chooses not to use it for his or her own gains. Violence is just a mean to an end. I think Japan should just embrace their past and move on. Rather than worrying what other countries might think about the practice, you should just teach it and demonstrate what the intent is. I think people will eventually understand you are not trying to raise an army to invade. If fascism is to rise again, it'll find its way. By then I would rather you have a trained populace who can at least fight the cops. Jukendo from what I've seen is also already a very watered down version of bayonet fighting. Look at any bayonet manual and you'll see that the rifle stock is used as well as the blade. I also think if you teach children the right etiquette and the cultivate their character in budo, there is no worry that they'll think their skills as games.
This is overblown. Even if jukendo still contained the tactics meant for war bayonet fighting is completely obsolete. It holds as much purpose in modern warfare as kenjutsu does. I understand that this might be triggering for a generation that came out of ww2 but fact is that jukendo can be just as useful to develop an individual as kendo. It should not be demonized anymore given it had lost its usefulness as a direct tool to train soldiers
Nice video! To me, the main question is whether Jukendo is "compulsory" or not. If you put something "compulsory", it means it is so important that the society targets every student to learn the arts/materials/skills. For me, if the goal of learning martial arts is for cultural & historical reasons, I would rather want a student to learn older martial arts as Jukendo is just too modern. On the other hand, if it is a free choice and the course clearly distance itself from the past, I don't see a problem. For the sentiments on WWII, I can clearly tell you Kendo/Karate/Jukendo are probably about the same on other Asian countries ... probably Kendo raises more issues on that side when comparing to Jukendo in various Chinese communities. (But yes, I do practice Kendo)
There is something marketed as Jukkendo (spelled with two K’s) in the USA, but it is different. It is a mix of Kodokan + Kosen Judo, BJJ, Karate, Kickboxing, and Weapon Disarms.
I was taught how to use a bayonet while in the military, if one only stabs with weapon he will lose the battle. Bayonet drill is more about using the entire weapon, not just the blade.
I once saw Jukendo demonstration in Japan and that time I thought it seemed very similar to the military knife fighting. If my children should learn it from school, I'd not agree with it because it goes too far. Anyway thank for the great contents this time, too.
@@michaelkelly4094 There are reasons why stab the throat is banned when the kendoka is still young/newbie. You can only allowed to stab when you have reached a certain level of experience. If you train real swordmanship, not kendo, you will get why the thrust is one of the most dangerous attack and should be used carefully in sparring and with proper training swords.
@KENKICHI in Kendo world In an era when bayonets are no longer used as weapons it is no more a warfare system than any other Budo art on that list. In fact swords have been used more to kill in conflict zones than bayonets have. No military has used bayonets, except on the parade field, since the Vietnam conflict.
@@michaelkelly4094 Guns are legally banned in many countries and I'm from one of that countries. My impression of guns are still 'Dangerous' and reminds me of combat, even though I used to train shooting and gun-knife combat in the army as a drill instructor. Maybe you're right, a modern Jukendo is originated from warfare combat system but nowadays it tries to become a safe sports like Kendo, but still I hesitate to say Yest to my children to learn something reminding combat at the tender age.
best shogo, I am curious about the origin and background of kata in budo sports and in particular Judo? Is there a video on this topic? Sincerely, Hugo Lumens
When I lived in Japan, I trained Kendo and I was put in Elementary School Kids Level 😅 It's kinda like you play a RPG game and your Lv, Items, and Gears still in lower level 😂 even the Kids is better than me.
Hi Shogo, if could reccomend a place to you. The Aikido Shoshinkai dojo in Otsu. (I know it's a little outside Kyoto but still very close.) The dojo teaches Nishio Ryu Aikido, a style is a mix of Aikido and Iaido. The main Sensei is Kunio Yoshimoto who is a 7th Dan in Aikido and a 5th Dan in Iaido. I think with your training in Iaido you would find it interesting.
I do recommend looking up fencing, HEMA, and modern jousting. We have a different approach to martial arts in the western civilization. While the 9 budo is taught as cultural traditions that can become a sport, the ones above are taught as historical techniques that can evolve into modern sports and recreations.
I'm pleased that you did not hesitate to express your personal opinion on the matter, but would still like to have a deeper understanding of it by interviewing an expert on it. That kind of openness is very admirable of you, Yamaguchi-san.
For the same reason why much of Japan's WW2 history is not taught in grade schools, it is the parents concern for their children to grow up in peace and avoid aggression again. Once out of grade schools, a person can study anything they want, Japan is a free country to do this. There are no censorship of information to adults are there? As adults they can choose any martial arts of interest to them. So what is banned from schools make little difference in overall life of a person in Japan. In terms of live weapons training, I fear the naginata more than any other hand weapons of Japan. I train with the katana.
But I think it comes with big downside, the next generation would be oblivious of their ancestors did. If it not taught at school, where you will learn history? Some people don't bother knowing or learning it, especially if it was a cruel one or just don't have interest on it. IMO Japan is a real example of a nation, that literally forget the bad and preserves the good. It is not about bad or good, it just their ways to do it just a little different than other nation I know. And BTW, I agree naginata is a really scary weapon which have a mid range capabilty, but also stabbing and slashing.
The Phrase: 'Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it', applies here, bud. (Although I certainly understand some of the Sentiments)
Jukendo is no safer or more dangerous than other martial arts. Those who are mentally ill, or evil, can use any martial art to do harm- in which case mandatory lessons of any martial arts are a bad idea. Regarding the fear of militarism- it remains as a potentially valid concern. And I think that it will all depend on how Jukendo is taught in schools. It would be nice if students had the right to choose the martial art they want, though. At what age do the mandatory martial arts classes start?
I think it dumb that people get so upset over Jukendo when the same complaints can be made about so many other martial arts, if people want to learn a specific style they should be allowed to learn it in peace because there is far more to martial arts than violence and subjecting your might over others
Silly question, but you stated that the Japanese Self Defence Force is the one organisation that most embraces jûkendô. I do not know how they are organized and what weapons they have, but do they use rifles with a bayonet on them?
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Independently from if Japan is becoming militarized or not: a population that knows martial arts will not be enslaved or lose its culture, I believe nothing bad can truly come from teaching kids martial arts and spreading more niche martial art so long you have boundaries and keep to a learning schedule, that combined with japans ban on firearms makes really hard for any form of evil to come off Jukendo,in short: the option of learning jukendo should be there for kids in order to expand the martial art, if the family is so worried about that they can simply convince their kid to take up another martial art, more important then that I didn’t knew Japan had mandatory martial arts education…this is actually very good and I believe more schools in the west should implement that as much for physical sport as for growing character.
Is there data about injury rates of kendo vs jukendo? That should be considered in the risk evaluation. As for the concern about becoming violent, I don't agree with the pacifists. Some US (and other) soldiers get traumatized from what they themselves did on battlefields; they encountered the spirit of destruction in themselves more perhaps than in other people, and they found themselves insufficiently prepared. Real training teaches people how to accept the side of them capable of terrible destruction. Until then, a person is not fully ready to defend against someone genuinely intent on evil.
When one compares Kendo, Jukendo and Kenjutsu, it may be hard to see the difference regarding the intent of training each of those arts. Martial arts are martial, the intent is often win. And it isn't like those arts are something created from thin air, there was some intent before. Maybe not in Kendo, because it is now considered a sport, but it was like that when it was created almost a century ago? Besides, there are kata with swords in Kendo too. Kenjutsu has an historical value, ancient styles, some with many centuries. Keep the art alive has a value on itself, even if the main purpose of the style in its conception wasn't other besides a martial purpose. Now, Jukendo seems to be created purely as a martial style, but it have such a legacy as Kenjutsu. It is good to keep the art going, but why make it in a compulsory list? I guess I was thinking about it while I was writing, and I'm a bit surprised at the conclusion I got. Great video, as always!
It's incredibly weird that martial arts are mandatory in schools at all. This should not be the case in a modern society. Not Jukendo, not any other martial art.
Is there no rifle marksmanship as an option? I feel like that wpuld be a more worthwhile option for Budo training. To be fair, Bayonet training isn't well utilized by other nations. I don't see the difference between this and training with a Naginata- doesn't that budo option utilize Stabs as well?
I think it’s not up to governments to make the individual choices of the people for them. If people are willing to teach it at a school it should be up to the students and their parents if taking the martial art is right for them. Debates between societies and governments regarding sweeping rules that choose for the individuals turn my stomach. If you don’t like the martial art then don’t take it. If you do then take it. Stop arguing about what everyone else should or shouldn’t do.
For me, newcomer kendoka that was very interesting video, thanks Shogo! About the jukendo, i think it's not good for school students, but it should be trained in JSDF to avoid crisis of survival. Every budo should be saved and safe
Many Asian countries have Kendo Dojos and entire in Shiai, but I can't see Jukendo expanding to these countries and have anyone be interested in it due to it's history...
For real, i understand why some people afraid of the sport. I believe they could have used sojutsu/art of the spear, a similar martial art, if they want to teach kids and teenagers how to stab each other with a long stick. Don't know why it has to be bayonet. Sure, spears and bayonet have their similarity but beyonet also have alot of exclusive techniques and tactics, but when you sportified it into a game, turned it into poke the other guy to get a point, then there's no actual differences.
Shogo, thank you for your video, it's really helpful to understand jukendo. I practice kendo for few years now and I didn't understand why number of trainee is so different. Also I struggle to find an answer to another question related to kendo and iaido, maybe you can help me. Why do we have only right-hand kamae in kendo and iaido? Sure, when you pull your sword you need to keep it right hand next to tsuba, left on tsukasaki, and legs will follow. But why can't we change during fight or kara from to left-hand kamae (just like standing in hidari joudan)? Especially in kendo, where we don't use saya. Any idea?
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I prefer the older Gekiken style more than Kendo, but it is quiet rare. Tennen Rishin Ryu is the most known school that practices it. Have you ever seen it?
Jukendo might be a really good way to adress and educate on japans history, which should be and how it changed and that awareness of how it wasnt good, thats why it changed and jikendo as example?! Of course super conservative, it would just be a good way to teach that subtil without talking about everything in the war. And spears are great, more spears
By teaching it at school they can raise the numbers so it's not so exclusive to the SDF. This would be a good thing to grow the sport. Most would never end up even hearing about it otherwise.
Shogo-kun, how about Japan wait until 2045 before teaching Jukindo in schools? That way Japan can take the high ground and say, "Look, we waited 100 years. We've learned peace. We're ready to teach our children peace."
It is weird that so many modern militaries (whether it’s the Japanese self defense force or the US marine core) still teach bayonet fighting in basic training even though no modern war fighting weapon has a bayonet let alone a bayonet mount. It kinda seems like world powers should refocus the time it takes to learn those skills for something more realistic
It’s much more realistic than you would think. Training your last resort gives you more confidence for pushing forward. Being able to convert your rifle into a spear can be useful if you run out of ammo, or if the enemy gets in close quarters.
I rather wonder, why in Kendo so many moves are not allowed. Stabbing, holding the sword with one hand etc. At least it seams so. But it kind if takes the fun out of it.
If I may, what would your opinion be of a film that shows Jukendo used by a main or major character in its story? I had considered making a story of a character that practices it but I wouldn't want to be insensitive now that I know what many people's opinion of it is.
I'll say it once and I'll say it again - the history of martial arts is the history of marketing. And if any art needs an image makeover, it's Jukendo. The 2017 controversy was a PR clanger that could easily have been avoided if someone had actually bothered to take in account both history and public opinion. Instead, old traumas were exposed, just so Jukendo could be taught at... only one middle school.
I'd say take a page from another former imperial power: Great Britain. They have a lot more baggage to deal with in terms of imperialism and wartime yet they were able to keep most of the traditions associated with it and let it thrive in their society. The secret: acceptance and recognition. Yes, accept there were bad things about it but also recognize that you're not that bad thing anymore and it's part of the history so there's no harm in preserving it in its more defanged state.
In the entire history of (modern) warfare,; at least , out of the millions of men and women who have served in their nation's military, the number of soldiers who have had to actually bayonet an enemy to death is miniscule. The purpose of the "bayonet drill" is not only teaching how to technically spear an enemy to death with the bayonet but more importantly to instill a spirit of attack and fierce aggression into every soldier. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why some Japanese people are reluctant to encourage JUKENDO, since as you have explained, that in KENDO the sword is essentially defensive in nature -to be used only as a last resort?
I'm from one of the South East Asian countries occupied by Imperial Japanese Army during WW2. From the media that I consumed since I was a child I associate the katana more with WW2 than the bayonet. Really, look at any WW2 movie and you see Japanese officers with their katanas held high leading a bayonet charges or kamikaze pilots carrying katanas into their final flights. Jukendo, however, looks like typical military bayonet fighting style that the rest of world practiced.
I guess the katana has the privilege of being held at a higher cultural value than the lowly bayonet even though they were both brutally utilized in the war.
Basically hypocrisy.
Honestly I don’t see a problem with it. In my own journey with the martial art I practice with is weapons based I see things in a different way. To me you can make a distinction between a weapon and the negative history behind it. I think practicing with it can have positive benefits too (in many ways). That’s just me though.
The past is meant to be learned from, people shouldn't hide from it. Should we ban hands because we can make a fist to strike or money because it could buy prostitutes and drugs? Its about the decision to use those things negatively. For Budo its about learning and making yourself better and money can be used to better your life style. Both things are Tools that have the potential to harm or enrich lives. Your choice.
@@Jerkface79 I agree with you, to me, Jukendo is in a way, a mixed martial art (considering how shogo explained in the video), with it combining Japanese spear/yari techniques and kendo theories. Another thing I like to add is a quote heard about, to support your claim of not hiding from the past and instead learning from it, "Those that can not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it."
It's sad, the spear is essential mankind's quintessential weapon that began out ascent to the top of the food chain. I think teaching Jukendo in the same sense that it should be used to defend rather than attack people should be the effective basis to change the mindset about it.
That's the mindset of budo to practice for become a strong and peacefull man. Jukendo isn't an exeption .
@@joachimpornin7509 Yet it still has a stigma.
It may be of interest that my russian fencing teacher had lessons in bayonet fighting at his school in the 1950s.
I would have no problem with anyone who wants to practice it. At the end it is not really different to the other MARTIAL ARTS, which all started as weapons training.
I'd LOVE to see a live Jukendo match. It sounds very interesting. It seems the word "ju" has a LOT of meanings. I didn't know that it was used for rifles as well. I wonder if it's related to the meaning as a "curse or magic spell" or even "cheating" perhaps...so much to unpack here. Great video buddy!
The japanese language has SO many homonyms- its insane
different ju: 銃剣 (juu-ken = bayonet) vs. 呪文 (ju-mon = spell), so it's not actually a homonym in japanese as the u is long in jūkendō and short in jumon.
I agree with you, Shogo. I'm a naginata player, former kendo and iaido student, and have looked into jukendo. A couple of friends of mine, also former Australian Army, study jukendo and find it fascinating. For adults, sure, it's a fine martial art, but it's not the best for a compulsory school setting. I think students need to learn more about what happened in the 1930's and 40's, but that's another subject. Thank you once again for another fascinating video!
This opens an interesting topic. Can you shed light on how Japanese feel about WW2 and how it effects Japan today? I always felt that Germany was very open about their role in WW2 whereas Japan seemed to want to forget about it.
We might be open but saying stuff about the 3rd reich can get you in prison here
Just last month they had a 96 year old women taken out of the place where the old people go (many good english) to take her on trial for being a secretary in a concentration camp.
And everywhere we go it is always with us.
The japanese focus more on what happened around japan, a lot of japanese teens don't even know what the swastika means in europe and america.
Saw a video on that a few days ago
Good luck with that. Majority of Japanese citizens don't know about WW2 Japan other than the controlled information given.
Korean?
@Jo Jo I dont think, a 6 year old woman shoul be too old to be put on trial for warcrimes, i heard from an old guy that when found was too sick to be put on it. Its still only putting peopl on trial that can be , and i doubt that woman can realistically maybe she was just questioned.But yes they were still searched. Just thre are limitation if soe old person can be put on trial for it healthwise.
.,Plus time witness die all pretty much due age now.
Not only japan. Many things in many countries never were worked on.
The only way to somewhat built goo resistence against it happening again, is work it out and change the culture inevitable with it. Which i guess is scary. It is scary but till good to know and informative and educates on faschism and how easy it is to happen, scary easy, .
Like anothr country that never did tht, was the us, and the info there is not censored, it just never was properly adressed. And it shows. Japn maye need to adress it sometimes.
I felt that people that are interested in Jukendo as an art should practice the Jo short stuff (Jodo). The basis of Aikido’s Jo techniques come from Jukendo. As a Budo in the context or sport to learn the value of winning and losing, Jukendo is nice to have just like Kendo.
An airsoft bolt action Arisaka would make more sense personally
I’m not Japanese so while I understand that it is not my place to comment on these things I feel compelled to say something on this. I come from a small island nation and learning about Japanese history and the Meiji restoration in particular has always been inspirational story of nation building to in my eye l. Japanese people today have inherited a rich and exalted history with a highly sophisticated culture like no other in the world and they should be proud of their history ALL their history. I say this only out of respect and with much love to all Japanese people and their beautiful country.
another carefully presented, reasoned video. keep the good work
It's just a kind of prejudice, it's a path originated from a technique. How you make use of it must be taught as any other bujutsu or budo.
Budo and bujutsu are mementos from times of fighting and horror, no matter how much you want to sugarcoat it, the truth is that they are techniques to kill or incapacitate your enemy. It must be taught to be used in a better way, as to protect yourself and those who you love
Awesome video Shogo! You and your team keep up the amazing work! I’m in love with this new schedule, I feel spoiled! Thanks so much bro.
Thanks to your team of course, I’m continuously more delighted every time they come on camera and are in your videos.
Jukendo is part of your history, japaneese peaple dont must regret about it, must remember and learn. Jukendo dont have "more bad values than kendo" today is a sport some Kinder of gendai budo, and a oportunity to learn about mistakes. Great video
You guys are lucky that Martial Arts is a mandatory part of the educational curriculum. In our case here in the Philippines, Filipino Martial Arts are not being taught with a deeper understanding there is only like a back-to-back page about FMA.
You said gun sword, and i thought of the gun blade in Final Fantasy 8
I think the other budo martial arts are far enough removed from their militaristic past that they are ok to teach children but jukendo is not there yet… but I think it’s interesting that it exists! I’d be curious to see what it looks like.
In order to fight with a bayonet/Juken you have to have 4 things
1. My enemy is out of ammunition
2. I am out of ammunition
3. My enemy is willing to fight with a bayonet
4. I am willing to fight with a bayonet.
Bayonet fighting in combat is unlikely. Of course, I am so old, I remember when there was a rifle range in the basement of my school.
I admire a peaceful Japan, I don't admire a harmless Japan.
Japan should practice Jukendo even if they are peaceful. Peaceful means you are against aggression, but are strong and can defend yourself. Being incapable of causing damage isn't being peaceful, it's being harmless. That's the reason your budo arts are beautiful, peace focused but capable of defeating your enemies.
While I admire Japanese's Budo arts, I see them as unpractical for reality in this era. We do not use swords anymore, and few nations in the world still have a deep relationship with swords. Guns and bayonets on the other hand are a still relevant weapon in the world stage at this time. Americans have their own version of Iajutsu, instead the art involves a pistol. Drawing and firing from seated position in car, from standing, in a space limited position, etc. Also milsim airsoft games can often be seen as substitute for battle practice. Japan is a peaceful land and its inhabitants kind, there is a near ZERO percent chance you will have to defend yourself with Iajutsu and Iado with a sword in this era. For the rest of the world, there is a greater than Zero chance knowing quick draw with a pistol can save your life or the life of someone you cares about. Japan is at peace right now, but for how long? With that said, the only weapon focused Budo art that isn't obsolete and anachronistic is Jukendo. The Samurai of the Sengoku eras quickly used guns to adapt and overcome. Modern Japan needs to adapt and overcome as well.
I aint gonna read all of that.
I think teaching it would be alright, it's no really different from spear fighting or soujutsu which also has a deep history. It could also be a good way to remind people about the history and to say hey we've moved on from this past but we mustn't forget what we've done. Weirdly enough historically Jukendo was used by other militaries during the same era, notably the Communist Chinese Guerillas who captured soldiers to teach them bayonet fighting. All in all, i particularly don't see as to why Jukendo would be anymore harmful, afterall during WW2 another popular demonising image of a Japanese soldier was him with a sword or Guntou at the time.
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As a dork myself, "Gunblade" martial arts... I see no problem :P
In the states we have a program in many schools called ROTC which is pretty much a military primer to give one a jump start on that career once they graduate, I can see Jukendo being a good sport for such programs if Japan has such programs offered to their highschool students.
HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) primarily ranges from as early as post-Roman Europe to as recently as early 1900's, and depending on who you ask, you'll get various reasons as to why any particular period in that time-frame isn't particularly "good". In spite all of that, though, people are still willing to learn forms of sabre and smallsword from when England ruled the world. A bit of proper training might help in correcting the public perception of jukendo in a more modern context
I think it's a bit more complicated with that. The Japanese soldiers of WW2 were slaughtering innocent people with bayonets within the lifetimes of people today. And a lot of them. There are pictures of it so the visual elements are very strong for people in Asia. Bayonets were usually used to kill unarmed people or finish off wounded people. Sword fighting can at least be seen as fair combat.
If you can separate it from history, it's just another sport. I'm just saying it's hard to do that for many people considering the context it arose in Japan.
well said i think its recent history and association with the militairy meens it should not be thought
I think it depends on what's taught along with jukendo. If the instructors are teaching their students that they must learn jukendo in order to help Japan once again rise in military might, invade other countries, and do things like have another beheading competition in Manchuria, then no. If the instructors are saying that jukendo is a valid martial art but that it arose during a period Japan must never morally return to, then I don't have a problem with it. Policing that would be difficult, though.
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I am a Kendoka and have heard of Jukendo. Bajonett fencing is a relict from the second world War, but If you are aware of that it's just another martial art
@@fubukibuki--dai-35-gokuchi45 Where do you practice Kendo?
@@fubukibuki--dai-35-gokuchi45 Nice
British troops were still going in with the bayonet in 1982 in the Falklands. I don't know if the bayonet was used in later conflicts.
@@johncartwright8154 Maybe still today if you ran out of ammo and have to defend yourself
@@johncartwright8154 There was a story about British troops doiing a bayonete charge agianst insurgents in Afghanistan a few years ago
Shogo-san hello. I never paid attention to this until you got into. Thank you because I'm learning more about your culture.
Can you talk about Tankendo too?
That would have been my question too.
Never even knew Jukendo existed. Awesome vid Shogo 👍
I think jukendo might be a good introduction to Japan's relatively recent military history. From talking with friends, it seems like young Japanese people are least knowledgeable about the 1920s through 1940s because the conflicts of the time are still sensitive subjects. If a child is not mature enough to understand that context, it's probably not the best idea to teach jukendo to them at such a young age. However, if an adolescent wanted to learn it and they were willing to educate themselves on Japan's past, it might be less of a problem.
Then again, the latter might be the start of a new militaristic Japanese culture, so I see why it's still debatable...
A secound mined, some claim jukendo can get you injured, but how is it with sumo? There you have to gain alot of weight, and you body defentely cause injuries.
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Very interesting video. Especially about jukendo. The reason I say this is that my father was in Japan back in the 1950s. While he was in Osaka he visited the shrines and learned jujitsu. As for jukendo. Like any martial arts. I think it depends on one's intentions that makes it good or bad. If one uses it to protect others as well as use it for strengthen one's mind and body. It is good. If one uses it to inflict pain on others to control them. And do other deeds. Then it is bad. This is of course my point of view. Nonetheless a great video. Thanks for posting this.
Musashi says you must always bear in mind that you can clench your left hand and thrust at the face with your fist. And also you ought not to forget to stab at the face, when the opponent becomes rigid, they become rideable, when they become rideable, multiple opportunities for winning become available.
Very well informed videos, you are awesome, be safe brother.
Thank you for the video Shogo! I found a jukendo video on RUclips several years ago, and I have been interested in it ever since. I tend to agree with the federation in that jukendo is at least mostly “demilitarized” with my main reason being that the mokuju is significantly longer than a modern military rifle. That said it was interesting to hear people’s objections to it being taught in schools, and I can understand why people would feel this way.
Does the JSDF mostly have an insular culture where it has different habits and tastes from the average Japanese person, or is jukendo just an outlier in this respect?
This is my first time coming across Juukendo. I can understand why people would be against it. It's a martial art associated with a militarized time. I know I wouldn't want that reminder either. As a foreigner, though, we would only view it as just another martial art form, but I can understand why Japanese parents, who would be more knowledgeable of it, would have an issue. If I were a parent, I wouldn't want my child doing that either.
and kendo isn't?
@@szarekhthesilent2047 Kendo seems milder and it was conceptualized during an era with little warring conflict. Juukendo seems to be a bit different if viewing it from that perspective. Also with Kendo you’re not jabbing and stabbing. I wouldn’t want my kid participating for that reason.
@@ssjup81
I agree. but still, edo era is, albeit the omnipresent romantism and strong philosophical approach that comes with peace, still very militarised. It is also not exactly the golden age of democracy or personal freedom either...
And kendo(or likewise) are still essentially a killing art.
You are stabbing (thrusting) in epee or fleur fencing too.
As long as hands and face are protected it's not that big of a deal to be honest. You barely notice when you lose points...^^
Depends on how long, rigid and heavy the weapon is,i guess.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 Bayonets are used to kill injured or unarmed opponents and there is a lot of war imagery associated with bayonets, specifically from the Imperial Japanese slaughtering people. The Katana or any sword on the other hand is easier to view in the context of war and dueling instead of slaughter.
because you are not based
Jukendo interests me as a martial art. If a decent gun-sword is created there would be a martial art focused on the use of that weapon. The Bayonet is not an interesting weapon to me though.
From a cultural standpoint I agree with the Opinions of the people that worry of its cultural impact to an extent. Japanese people understand the Japanese mindset best and you guys would know if something will influence the populace. From my perspective it does seem that Japanese are very eager to fully embrace all aspects of the things they are interested in, so Jukendo's roots in WW2 totalitarianism is definitely something to be wary of.
I think the arguments are really weak against Jukendo. Like you said, Budo, by its very nature, came from violence. That violence was used to maim or kill. It was also used to protect. If Kendo can exist in schools, I think Jukendo should be able to exist. Just because you are capable of violence, does not make you a bad person. A good person is someone who is capable of violence but chooses not to use it for his or her own gains. Violence is just a mean to an end. I think Japan should just embrace their past and move on. Rather than worrying what other countries might think about the practice, you should just teach it and demonstrate what the intent is. I think people will eventually understand you are not trying to raise an army to invade. If fascism is to rise again, it'll find its way. By then I would rather you have a trained populace who can at least fight the cops. Jukendo from what I've seen is also already a very watered down version of bayonet fighting. Look at any bayonet manual and you'll see that the rifle stock is used as well as the blade. I also think if you teach children the right etiquette and the cultivate their character in budo, there is no worry that they'll think their skills as games.
This is overblown. Even if jukendo still contained the tactics meant for war bayonet fighting is completely obsolete. It holds as much purpose in modern warfare as kenjutsu does. I understand that this might be triggering for a generation that came out of ww2 but fact is that jukendo can be just as useful to develop an individual as kendo. It should not be demonized anymore given it had lost its usefulness as a direct tool to train soldiers
Thank you for the interesting video Shogo!
Nice video! To me, the main question is whether Jukendo is "compulsory" or not. If you put something "compulsory", it means it is so important that the society targets every student to learn the arts/materials/skills. For me, if the goal of learning martial arts is for cultural & historical reasons, I would rather want a student to learn older martial arts as Jukendo is just too modern. On the other hand, if it is a free choice and the course clearly distance itself from the past, I don't see a problem. For the sentiments on WWII, I can clearly tell you Kendo/Karate/Jukendo are probably about the same on other Asian countries ... probably Kendo raises more issues on that side when comparing to Jukendo in various Chinese communities. (But yes, I do practice Kendo)
There is something marketed as Jukkendo (spelled with two K’s) in the USA, but it is different. It is a mix of Kodokan + Kosen Judo, BJJ, Karate, Kickboxing, and Weapon Disarms.
The argument about skills taught during the fascist era, can also apply to Kendo and other arts used for military training.
It reminds people of Japan's military period...? Sounds right to me!
Just because it was taught during a dark time doesn't mean that the sport itself is bad.
Thanks!
I was taught how to use a bayonet while in the military, if one only stabs with weapon he will lose the battle. Bayonet drill is more about using the entire weapon, not just the blade.
Not skmething that belongs jn high school in my opinion
I once saw Jukendo demonstration in Japan and that time I thought it seemed very similar to the military knife fighting. If my children should learn it from school, I'd not agree with it because it goes too far.
Anyway thank for the great contents this time, too.
So you’re ok with your kids learning how to hit each other with a stick but not with poking each other with one… Seems logical.
@@michaelkelly4094 There are reasons why stab the throat is banned when the kendoka is still young/newbie. You can only allowed to stab when you have reached a certain level of experience. If you train real swordmanship, not kendo, you will get why the thrust is one of the most dangerous attack and should be used carefully in sparring and with proper training swords.
@@michaelkelly4094 I think Jukendo is a kind of warfare system and this is the reason. AND I don't have any reason to hear your sarcastic manner.
@KENKICHI in Kendo world
In an era when bayonets are no longer used as weapons it is no more a warfare system than any other Budo art on that list. In fact swords have been used more to kill in conflict zones than bayonets have. No military has used bayonets, except on the parade field, since the Vietnam conflict.
@@michaelkelly4094 Guns are legally banned in many countries and I'm from one of that countries. My impression of guns are still 'Dangerous' and reminds me of combat, even though I used to train shooting and gun-knife combat in the army as a drill instructor.
Maybe you're right, a modern Jukendo is originated from warfare combat system but nowadays it tries to become a safe sports like Kendo, but still I hesitate to say Yest to my children to learn something reminding combat at the tender age.
Naginata looks as serious as jukendo.
You can't just forget your history. Also can't pick and choose what history you remember.
best shogo, I am curious about the origin and background of kata in budo sports and in particular Judo? Is there a video on this topic? Sincerely, Hugo Lumens
When I lived in Japan, I trained Kendo and I was put in Elementary School Kids Level 😅 It's kinda like you play a RPG game and your Lv, Items, and Gears still in lower level 😂 even the Kids is better than me.
Hi Shogo, if could reccomend a place to you. The Aikido Shoshinkai dojo in Otsu. (I know it's a little outside Kyoto but still very close.) The dojo teaches Nishio Ryu Aikido, a style is a mix of Aikido and Iaido. The main Sensei is Kunio Yoshimoto who is a 7th Dan in Aikido and a 5th Dan in Iaido. I think with your training in Iaido you would find it interesting.
question what does it mean by "completely wipe out its tactical content" ? what was remove from that martial art?
Also, could you please clarify what the 9 “official” Budo arts are?
I do recommend looking up fencing, HEMA, and modern jousting. We have a different approach to martial arts in the western civilization.
While the 9 budo is taught as cultural traditions that can become a sport, the ones above are taught as historical techniques that can evolve into modern sports and recreations.
Yes, do an interview with somebody in jukendo. It would be an interesting video to compare against this one.
I'm pleased that you did not hesitate to express your personal opinion on the matter, but would still like to have a deeper understanding of it by interviewing an expert on it.
That kind of openness is very admirable of you, Yamaguchi-san.
For the same reason why much of Japan's WW2 history is not taught in grade schools, it is the parents concern for their children to grow up in peace and avoid aggression again. Once out of grade schools, a person can study anything they want, Japan is a free country to do this. There are no censorship of information to adults are there? As adults they can choose any martial arts of interest to them. So what is banned from schools make little difference in overall life of a person in Japan. In terms of live weapons training, I fear the naginata more than any other hand weapons of Japan. I train with the katana.
But I think it comes with big downside, the next generation would be oblivious of their ancestors did. If it not taught at school, where you will learn history? Some people don't bother knowing or learning it, especially if it was a cruel one or just don't have interest on it. IMO Japan is a real example of a nation, that literally forget the bad and preserves the good. It is not about bad or good, it just their ways to do it just a little different than other nation I know.
And BTW, I agree naginata is a really scary weapon which have a mid range capabilty, but also stabbing and slashing.
The Phrase: 'Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it',
applies here, bud.
(Although I certainly understand some of the Sentiments)
Jukendo is no safer or more dangerous than other martial arts. Those who are mentally ill, or evil, can use any martial art to do harm- in which case mandatory lessons of any martial arts are a bad idea. Regarding the fear of militarism- it remains as a potentially valid concern. And I think that it will all depend on how Jukendo is taught in schools. It would be nice if students had the right to choose the martial art they want, though. At what age do the mandatory martial arts classes start?
If sword based martial arts that has an even bloodier history was able to be used for something good, why can't jukendo do the same, right?
I think it dumb that people get so upset over Jukendo when the same complaints can be made about so many other martial arts, if people want to learn a specific style they should be allowed to learn it in peace because there is far more to martial arts than violence and subjecting your might over others
Silly question, but you stated that the Japanese Self Defence Force is the one organisation that most embraces jûkendô. I do not know how they are organized and what weapons they have, but do they use rifles with a bayonet on them?
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Independently from if Japan is becoming militarized or not: a population that knows martial arts will not be enslaved or lose its culture, I believe nothing bad can truly come from teaching kids martial arts and spreading more niche martial art so long you have boundaries and keep to a learning schedule, that combined with japans ban on firearms makes really hard for any form of evil to come off Jukendo,in short: the option of learning jukendo should be there for kids in order to expand the martial art, if the family is so worried about that they can simply convince their kid to take up another martial art, more important then that I didn’t knew Japan had mandatory martial arts education…this is actually very good and I believe more schools in the west should implement that as much for physical sport as for growing character.
Is there data about injury rates of kendo vs jukendo? That should be considered in the risk evaluation.
As for the concern about becoming violent, I don't agree with the pacifists. Some US (and other) soldiers get traumatized from what they themselves did on battlefields; they encountered the spirit of destruction in themselves more perhaps than in other people, and they found themselves insufficiently prepared. Real training teaches people how to accept the side of them capable of terrible destruction. Until then, a person is not fully ready to defend against someone genuinely intent on evil.
Nice vedio , and i have a doubt what is the actual meaning of karate
When one compares Kendo, Jukendo and Kenjutsu, it may be hard to see the difference regarding the intent of training each of those arts. Martial arts are martial, the intent is often win. And it isn't like those arts are something created from thin air, there was some intent before. Maybe not in Kendo, because it is now considered a sport, but it was like that when it was created almost a century ago? Besides, there are kata with swords in Kendo too.
Kenjutsu has an historical value, ancient styles, some with many centuries. Keep the art alive has a value on itself, even if the main purpose of the style in its conception wasn't other besides a martial purpose.
Now, Jukendo seems to be created purely as a martial style, but it have such a legacy as Kenjutsu.
It is good to keep the art going, but why make it in a compulsory list?
I guess I was thinking about it while I was writing, and I'm a bit surprised at the conclusion I got.
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Many thanks for this video!
Is there any chance you could visit a Kendo or Jukendo Dojo?
I would love to see it!
Just do it the easy way a year in each discipline, this way as the kids get older they have a broader foundation.
It's incredibly weird that martial arts are mandatory in schools at all. This should not be the case in a modern society. Not Jukendo, not any other martial art.
I believe in the opposite. Everyone should learn basic martial arts. It's a humbling experience.
Great video like always! Do you have a video on tankendo too?
Is there no rifle marksmanship as an option? I feel like that wpuld be a more worthwhile option for Budo training. To be fair, Bayonet training isn't well utilized by other nations. I don't see the difference between this and training with a Naginata- doesn't that budo option utilize Stabs as well?
What do Japanese think of the rising sun flag?
I think it’s not up to governments to make the individual choices of the people for them. If people are willing to teach it at a school it should be up to the students and their parents if taking the martial art is right for them. Debates between societies and governments regarding sweeping rules that choose for the individuals turn my stomach. If you don’t like the martial art then don’t take it. If you do then take it. Stop arguing about what everyone else should or shouldn’t do.
For me, newcomer kendoka that was very interesting video, thanks Shogo!
About the jukendo, i think it's not good for school students, but it should be trained in JSDF to avoid crisis of survival. Every budo should be saved and safe
Did you get a new tsuba for your katana?
I'd love to see your talk about your katana, and why you chose the fittings that you did
Many Asian countries have Kendo Dojos and entire in Shiai, but I can't see Jukendo expanding to these countries and have anyone be interested in it due to it's history...
For real, i understand why some people afraid of the sport. I believe they could have used sojutsu/art of the spear, a similar martial art, if they want to teach kids and teenagers how to stab each other with a long stick. Don't know why it has to be bayonet. Sure, spears and bayonet have their similarity but beyonet also have alot of exclusive techniques and tactics, but when you sportified it into a game, turned it into poke the other guy to get a point, then there's no actual differences.
Most of my Japanese friends know very little at all about WWII. Sad.
Maybe change it from a mock rifle to a spear then call it Sodo or Yarido (spear way).
Shogo, thank you for your video, it's really helpful to understand jukendo. I practice kendo for few years now and I didn't understand why number of trainee is so different.
Also I struggle to find an answer to another question related to kendo and iaido, maybe you can help me.
Why do we have only right-hand kamae in kendo and iaido? Sure, when you pull your sword you need to keep it right hand next to tsuba, left on tsukasaki, and legs will follow. But why can't we change during fight or kara from to left-hand kamae (just like standing in hidari joudan)? Especially in kendo, where we don't use saya.
Any idea?
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I prefer the older Gekiken style more than Kendo, but it is quiet rare. Tennen Rishin Ryu is the most known school that practices it. Have you ever seen it?
Jukendo might be a really good way to adress and educate on japans history, which should be and how it changed and that awareness of how it wasnt good, thats why it changed and jikendo as example?!
Of course super conservative, it would just be a good way to teach that subtil without talking about everything in the war.
And spears are great, more spears
Its rules are alot like fencing epee or foil
By teaching it at school they can raise the numbers so it's not so exclusive to the SDF. This would be a good thing to grow the sport. Most would never end up even hearing about it otherwise.
Shogo-kun, how about Japan wait until 2045 before teaching Jukindo in schools? That way Japan can take the high ground and say, "Look, we waited 100 years. We've learned peace. We're ready to teach our children peace."
It is weird that so many modern militaries (whether it’s the Japanese self defense force or the US marine core) still teach bayonet fighting in basic training even though no modern war fighting weapon has a bayonet let alone a bayonet mount. It kinda seems like world powers should refocus the time it takes to learn those skills for something more realistic
It’s much more realistic than you would think. Training your last resort gives you more confidence for pushing forward.
Being able to convert your rifle into a spear can be useful if you run out of ammo, or if the enemy gets in close quarters.
I rather wonder, why in Kendo so many moves are not allowed.
Stabbing, holding the sword with one hand etc. At least it seams so. But it kind if takes the fun out of it.
Old comment, but while kendo restricts quite a lot each example you provided is allowed.
Jukendo is a great way to implement sojutsu in a way that naginata don't
If I may, what would your opinion be of a film that shows Jukendo used by a main or major character in its story? I had considered making a story of a character that practices it but I wouldn't want to be insensitive now that I know what many people's opinion of it is.
Glad that aikido is on the list although I hope it's yoshinkan style because I just don't trust the others 🤣
Is it just me or is the Jukendo almost look like a Musket
Because it's supposed to look like a bolt action rifle
I'll say it once and I'll say it again - the history of martial arts is the history of marketing. And if any art needs an image makeover, it's Jukendo.
The 2017 controversy was a PR clanger that could easily have been avoided if someone had actually bothered to take in account both history and public opinion. Instead, old traumas were exposed, just so Jukendo could be taught at... only one middle school.
I'd say take a page from another former imperial power: Great Britain. They have a lot more baggage to deal with in terms of imperialism and wartime yet they were able to keep most of the traditions associated with it and let it thrive in their society. The secret: acceptance and recognition. Yes, accept there were bad things about it but also recognize that you're not that bad thing anymore and it's part of the history so there's no harm in preserving it in its more defanged state.
In the entire history of (modern) warfare,; at least , out of the millions of men and women who have served in their nation's military, the number of soldiers who have had to actually bayonet an enemy to death is miniscule. The purpose of the "bayonet drill" is not only teaching how to technically spear an enemy to death with the bayonet but more importantly to instill a spirit of attack and fierce aggression into every soldier. Perhaps that is one of the reasons why some Japanese people are reluctant to encourage JUKENDO, since as you have explained, that in KENDO the sword is essentially defensive in nature -to be used only as a last resort?
Jukendo teaches a useful skill compared to something like kendo, in that it can be used if they go into the SDF.