Tek-Point - Garret Propointer AT - XP Mi-4 Shoot out
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- I compare the power between these 3 Pinpointers . Tek-Point - Garret Propointer AT - XP Mi-4 Shoot out
Filmed on Canon G7X Mark II
Filmed on Canon M50
GoPro Hero 7 black
Audio:
Rode Wireless Go
Samson G-Track Pro
Maono AU-PM461TR
Maono AU-PM421
Tascam TH-05
Detectors used:
Nokta Makro Simplex
Minelab Equinox 600
Minelab X-terra 705
Quest Q40
Minelab Vanquish 540
Garrett Ace Apex
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Like Always great content Joey. Blessings From Del Rio Texas.
Thank you
Good job Joey I enjoyed your video and have a great Day.
Great video, yea the Tek point rules.
I rate from using all 3 pinpointers..
1 Tek point
2 Xp MI4
3 Garrett.
Garrett has Quality issues. All my Garrett pinpointers had problems. My Tek point and Xp MI4 are great 👍
oh jeah. my garrett propointer 2 was falsing around like hell...
Hey Joey have you ever tested the quest xpointer max? I know you like the q40.
Hey Terrance whats up buddy.. I have used one but it wasnt mine... Its a very nice pointer man! Id trade my Garrett carrot or XP for one in a heartbeat! I LOVE the Q40 brother!! Chinese made or not "whatever" ... Yes it is quality engineered and people are just missing out if they haven't tried one out... - Joey
Joey, I have two Garrett Carrots with Z-lynk. I use them with the Z-lynk headphones, a must at my age and in the noisy areas in which I detect. My detector is linked wirelessly to the headphones as well. They do the job for me. Keep Digging, Joey.
Joey, I don't have a problem with your test. I don't think the rice makes any difference as it is only a substrate to hold the pin pointer a certain distance from the quarter. What I disagree with is using your pin pointer to aid in digging smaller plugs. I work a lot of manicured parks and if you pin point properly with your detector your plug should already be small. The pin pointer should be used in close proximity to the target to speed up the final retrieval. What's your thoughts!
I see where you are coming from Tim... you are not wrong but for me sometimes my pinpointing isnt always perfect... the Tek point when I fire it up and touch it on the point where I think I should be... It usually beeps telling me the target is right there and improves the size and accuracy of my plug.. Just my technique..
I was going to get a new XP Mi-4 a couple weeks ago,but decided to get a Fisher F Pulse instead. I'm glad I did!
Yeeaahhhhhh! good call Mike!
I've used the Garret and the XP pinpointers. The XP black rubber grip came off after 3 years, and was always a pain to remember all the settings. The Garret carrot always seems to work fine for me. I wish the black push bottom was more of a permanent mount instead of coming off when caked with mud.
Yeah I see your point.. Agreed
I was offered a no name pinpointer for an honest review. It turned out to be very good and air tests on coins at about 3 inches and four inches if I do that trick where you put a metal strip on the back of it, slide it up until it starts beeping, then slide it back just until the beeping stops and keep it there. I haven`t yet tested it in the field due to the weather.
What's the sensitivity for small pieces of foil etc? Struggling with Garret a bit with small bits of foil etc that my manticore finds XD
You mean the sensitivity with these pinpointers? it really all depends on the soil.. and how small the foil.. What pointer are you using with the Manticore? Thats a sweet looking machine!
@@VegasDtech using the Carrot. Manticore is very sensitive to small stuff relatively. Especially using low conductors (fine jewelry) mode. Some small pieces of foil basically need to be right on the tip of the pinpointer to be detected, Manticore will get those at 2-3 inches at least. Pellet rifle bbs, regular staples can annoy you if you're letting that iron through. I mean both of those are small! And Carrot struggles to find the staples too. The other day after digging foil and small bits of can slaw I found an old pull tabs...and was like boy this thing is huge because I had to keep digging down since the pinpointer located it at like 3 inches vs 1/4" or worse lol. Anyway, if fisher can detect foil better in mild soil or even in air I'd be very interested. A flattened/balled herseys kiss wrapper might be very good test. Because I find this kind of stuff with the detector but extremely hard to pinpoint rn
Joey. Everything you did and said in this informative video is absolutely correct. The White's TRX isTHE deepest followed by the F pulse/ Tek-Point by Fisher/Teknetics. You need to adjust them from high to low when pinpointing. They go ( especially White's) really deep...
Great information for your viewers. 👍
Hey thanks John... some subscribers asked me to redo this test and the results were identicle from 2 years ago!
@@VegasDtech The leaders are the ones you identified besting the MI-4 and MI-6.
That green tek pointer you have I had one of those a few years ago & I didn't really think it worked very well when I used it in my soil it sometimes took a few seconds to beep on the items & it only seems to go like 3 inches. Its well made better made than the trx that I was useing, but my Whites TRX went like 4 inches on my coins. When whites died out of business I bought another TRX for a back up one of the best pointer I ever had. I ordered a fisher f75 plus detector last tuesday so it should be coming soon on wednesday so it has a fisher pin pointer with it. I know it will be the same as the green Tek pointer so I will be testing it out & if it only goes 3 inches I will sell it. If it goes deeper then I might keep it. I didn't go for the Legend I think it has second build in battery in it. So I went for a fisher f75. Love watching your detecting channel keep up the good work.
Hey thanks Frank.... the Tek-point can false thats very true and why i need to carry a back up pointer.. When it does act right ... its the deepest pointer i have... Garrett needs to reproduce the TRX because they own the patents to Whites company
JOey what did your Mamma Say about playing with your Sac?...lol Even Pi detectors I think hit deeper then VlF detectors. Thanks For sharing. If I am in the point of needing a new pin pointer I know what one now to look into ..
Yeah Dan glad to help... and stop staring at my sack! lol
@@VegasDtech 🤣🤣🤣
I only want a pinpointer that signals when close. I am pretty good at pinpointing with the detector itself, so I don't need a deep pinpointer that can pick up other stuff around the target. I have a TRX and I agree, that is the deepest pinpointer I have ever had, and I have had all of them!
Yup. Absolutely. Too bad they went out of business and Garrett doesn't seem to want to use it's technology.
Agreed Chuck.. Your technique can overcome needing depth... its just my XP and Garrett are so weak they cant find anything over three inches so i must dig the plug first.... then pop it in.. The Tek-point is so strong its like a hand held metal detector
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Very interesting. I am curious if the rice had anything to do with the results. Perhaps it has some sort of insulating properties that jam up the VLF pointers? I use the MI-4 and in my soil, I get pretty good depth. The Pulse Dive is still my go-to though. I may have to sacrifice a few pairs of the wife's socks to test this out with different mediums. Good video as always. Thanks dude.
IDK.... but would rice do that? should i try coffee beans or oatmeal next?? Lol thanks Chris
@@VegasDtechkidney beans!! They store more iron ....🤔😜
The XP MI-6 and MI-4 are the most ridiculous, user-UNfriendly pinpointers of all modern probes. I threw my MI-6 into the box with spare detector shafts a few years ago and completely forgot about it. The Tek-Point rules! I've been using it as a mini-detector for special projects and, during the first project, I was pleasantly shocked by its performance (it found over 200 silver hammered coins at one hot spot where a normal md would struggle finding tiny specie under given conditions). I also have the F-Pulse (my girlfriend uses it time to time) - a "twin brother" of the Tek-Point and, therefore, also a BEAST, but I always prefer the Tek-Point for some reason (maybe its color :)))
Sergei. I did this test 2 years ago and it had identical results... why the MI-4 and garrett is so weak??? I would be cutting plugs in the blind without the Tek-point
@@VegasDtech If you want a substance mimiking the mineralization between the coin and pinpointer, use an old brick! The PI probes will leave the VLF probes in the dust even more.
Pulse RULES.
i use the Garret pro and when you turn it off and on, it resets to the second level. Go to third level and test without turning it off.
does it work good doing it that way? ill try it
Can you please repeat this test in red clay from central VA ? I can send you some dirt if you want 😉
I've used a TRX, F-pulse and a Garrett carot. the Garrett carot was always the most consistant and falsed the least. the F-pulse (I called it the f-false) was a chattering mess. I'll buy that Garrett off of you if you don't want it! I never understood the whole depth thing with a pointer. After some experience it's not hard to estimate the depth of the a target and dig a plug accordingly to get your pointer you use close enough. a lot of it is getting used to whatever you use.
If you have a deep pinpointer and are able to detect the target by probing it on top of the ground, once you kneel down to dig, it will be like putting a screwdriver onto a screw. Just that precise.
@@johnbriggs5250 Not needed. Can use the wiggle method with your coil. Just as accurate. Takes time.
@@finders-keepers1518 Yes, the wiggle method will get you there no matter the depth of the object as long as your detector finds it as it could be out of range of any pinpointer.
The depth of the F-pulse just lets me know that im on target as its a pulse pointer and only fires straight out.. It can false thats true and thats when i use the Carrot once im in the hole.. The Tek point can start falsing badly in mineralized ground..
@@VegasDtech Yes, for shallow targets it let's you know you're on it.
I don't like my pinpointer too hot. I use the Garrett and 95% of the time it's at the middle setting. Now and then I'll bump it up to the highest setting.
PI detectors are deeper. I’ve have the fisher pin pointer. And the ground only makes it stronger it seems.
Mine will go crazy deep on big objects. About 3 foot on a refrigerator. 😂
true man.. the Tek point can false on olmost anything or else it would be my only pointer, but because it canact up i need to carry a slightly less sensitive VLF backup
Watch granielson's mi4 MI6 pinpointer video it will tell you more than likely you are detuning it towards not picking up on it in a distance
but how when i have it on max sensitivity level 3?? what more options does it have? other then a silent mode?
@@VegasDtech watch the video by Gary from XP and he talks about detuning the MI6 and the mi4 pin pointer you can detune it where it is not as sensitive
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This is the rating from my pinpointers and the reaon why :
1. XP MI 6 ; durable, good depth in my soil, very long battery life, rechargeable, waterproof
2. Quest Xpointer: cheap, good depth, durable
3. Garret black and orange : good depth, quality issues, bad build quality
4 Nokta Makro pointer : good build quality, bad depth, bad ergonomics
Your ratings are excellent.. My MI-4 idk... not as deep as the MI-6 but its still a very nicely built pointer.. battery charge last forever!
@@VegasDtechmust of got a bad mi4. I’ve talked to XP reps and they even say mi4 and mi6 are the exact same other than mi6 syncs to xp detectors. I’ve also seen reviews that confirm this statement made by XP.
Something is definitely wrong there Joey cuz that's all I use is the Ml6 and Ml4 I've got the Garrett 🥕 I've got the pro 35s I've got them all never had a problem like that Garrett carrots are pretty nice too pro 35 suck
Pro 35 sucks? man i was always wondering if they were any good because the pro 20 was garbage
@@VegasDtech yeah man I bought two brand new ones one for me and my wife when we got the equinoxes and both of them failed within 2 weeks of owning them sent them back to the company they were good got us new one sent back to us again but end up having the same problem again 🙄
@@Findingwithfrequency Were they just weak depth or what was the issue?
@@VegasDtech when you would put them down on the hole they would sound off on everything it was just falsing out like crazy every time
@@VegasDtech give me a favor Joey go and watch my video that I just posted it is Ghost crab pinpointer depth test it proves that the mi4 and the Garrett carrot will hit on that test with no problem
Your test is still flawed. The minelab and Garrett pointers rely heavily on the objects magnetic bubble it creates underground. There considered to be (Passive) detectors. Your Tek pointer is a (Active) detector because actually sends out a small pulse that picks out the metal. 2 different types. Set up a small test garden putting a coin at 1”, 2”, 2.5” 3”, 3.5” then 4”. Let sit for 2 weeks a Casio Al adding little water just like rain. Then do the test again
Your theory sounds good John.. I knew there had to be a reason why the VLF was struggling against the Pulse induction but i just find it lacking the depth in my mineralized ground in anything over 3 inches down.. The Tek-point hits my targets withoud cutting a plug saving me time in cuttung too large a hole
Now you will have people saying that pointing it at the camera setting it up detuned it. Unfair.
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😁 SO....Your wife's got a sack huh?.....😝!!!! How do you like your Tea?....😂🤣😆!!!! Seriously,
(I have a cheap Chinese Garrett Carrot 🥕 knock off that would pass all of those tests!!!)....🤔 Maybe I just got lucky, who knows? I will admit the 1st two Amazon "El Cheapo" Pinpointers I bought turned out to be junk!😡😠. But the one I got now is just fantastic👍!!!! (🤞 Just hoping it doesn't break on me anytime soon😆!!!) 😒.
You can actually get some of those cheap pinpointers to go close to 40 % deeper. There are youtubes on that.
Is it a GP pointer Garrett carrot clone? Some of those actually work for $20 bucks.. crazy but true man
@@VegasDtech Yup. There are different brands of GP and some you can alter better than others.You've got to remove the battery holder and carefully use a long enough probe to push the detecting head closer to the inside tip of the pointer until it stops. Increases depth up to 1/2 inch for a $20 pinpointer.