As an Orioles fan since the late ‘60’s, thanks for giving Jim Palmer some love. I loved watching him pitch, his windup and his fabulous curve ball. The Orioles staff of 1970 was incredible. He could hit a little, for a pitcher, too. My favorite stat of his is never giving up a grand slam in his long career. Good stuff, my friend, very interesting and informative.
@@jeffreyparks2371 I am also a big Palmer fan, he was one of the best pitcher I have ever seen. The grand slam statistic is great, I wish I would have known it prior to taping. Appreciate you watching,enjoy the rest of your weekend!
@@vintageonvintage817 Liked & subscribed. Another O's fan here, and Jim Palmer's greatness is too often underrated (I've even seen a rating where he was called something ridiculous, like the least deserving pitcher in the Hall of Fame!). In the decade you've covered here he won 20 or more games in eight out of ten seasons, and that included three years where he pitched a ridiculous 300+ innings per season. Besides his grand slam record, I believe he's also the only pitcher in MLB history with World Series victories in three different decades. For me, his most memorable win in the Fall Classic has to be Game 2 in 1966, in which as a rookie he outpitched Dodger legend Sandy Koufax, hurling a 6-0 shutout in what would be the latter's final game on the mound. Regrettably, Koufax's arm blew out before Tommy John surgery was around. No doubt this was part of the reason he gave up an uncharacteristically high number of runs against the O's (another part being how Baltimore had a very strong offense, led by Frank Robinson, who was the American League MVP that year and hit for the Triple Crown). It's a pity that the game didn't take place when Sandy was in his prime -- that would have been quite a pitchers' duel.
My favorite pitcher and a huge Os fan. He was poetry on the mound. Injuries most likely kept him from 300 wins. 10 shutouts in one season, not complete games, but shutouts. Amazing
Yep, not even from MD, but an O's fan, and Jim Palmer was amazing. From shutting out the Dodgers and Koufax in '66 WS to the end of his career he was the real deal. And the '71 staff with 4 20 game winners, wow...
Another guy who pitched on some bad teams in the seventies, but was a workhorse. He made between 20 to 45 starts, over 300 innings in four of those years, not to mention 217 career wins, 2800 plus strikeouts in his career, and his legendary performance in the 68 fall classic. Mickey Lolich. Great list!!!
Before the 1968 World Series, Roger Maris warned the Cardinals that they would have their hands full with Lolich, more so than with 30 game winner McLain.
Awesome video Steve!! Thanks for sharing your list and these amazing vintage cards!! Growing up in that era these pitchers brought back a lot of memories!! Being from Minnesota I especially remember watching on television Bert Blyleven’s first game. He won that game against the Washington Senators 2-1 as a 19 year old.
Hi Steve, I watched this yesterday, but just had a moment to comment now. These are fun lists to put together and I appreciate the time you put into it. I also want to start with how much I enjoy seeing the cards. That can sometimes be forgotten in these types of videos. I always appreciate when the collector has cards of the player they are talking about, and you showed some great cards. I think what hurts Ryan on for being considered higher is the number of walks he had - over 1,500 in the 70s, which was much higher than anyone else on your list. None of those guys even broke a 1,000. I was also surprised that Seaver was only 374 strikeouts behind Ryan for the decade, and he was about 200 ahead of Carlton. I knew he was a strikeout pitcher, but didn't realize he was ahead of Carleton for the decade. I agree with you that Palmer was the best of the 70s but as you noted its close. You did a really nice job researching and putting this together. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Terry! I appreciate your comment on the cards. I will always try to show cards in my videos. For that video, I wanted them all to be from the 1970s! I agree with you on Ryan. He was a great pitcher who could be dominant but also struggled with control. People always remember his Strikeouts but seem to forget that he also owns the record for most walks by a large margin, he is the only player in MLB history with over 2,000. Although I still think Ryan is an all-time great I also think he is a bit overrated and over-hyped in the hobby. Always appreciate you watching, enjoy your Sunday!
Great ranking, Steve, and awesome cards. Cool seeing Blue on your list, and Perry is one of those guys who I wished I got to see ptich in his prime. That's a fantastic '71 card of him. Thanks for making the list and sharing it!
Thanks John! Vida was such a talented pitcher, who is on the fringe of the Hall in my opinion. Perry was one of those guys that never impressed you but at the end of the year had some really solid stats. I will eventually send that 71 of Perry to SGC, thinking it will come back a 6 like most of the ones I send in.☺
As always, well done, Steve. Enjoyed your list AND the cards. Palmer and Seaver never seem to get the true hobby attention each deserves, especially Jim Palmer. Gaylord Perry was a surprise performer. Never knew the stats for him in the '70's. Great research. Take care, my friend.
Steve! Great list and cards, my friend! I agree with you on the rankings. Wonder why Palmer doesn’t get more attention? He had such an amazing career. Thanks for sharing and have a fantastic weekend!!!
Thanks Rob! I agree with you on Palmer, he never gets listed during the discussions of best of all time and he should. Thanks for watching my friend, enjoy your weekend!
Superb list! Agree about Palmer and many others on your top 10. Shout out to Andy Messersmith: his .212 career opponents' batting average is 4th all-time after Ryan, Koufax and Kershaw. Also loved JR Richard. Absolute flamethrower!!!
Thanks, Really appreciate it. I agree with you on Messersmith he was someone I meant to call out in the beginning of the video. He and Tiant are two that just missed my top ten and both have a strong case to be in it! JR Richard was a beast, it is too bad his career was cut short, he and Ryan in the same rotation would have been amazing!
Thanks, I really appreciate it! Tiant just missed out for me, but it was close. Marichal was nearing the end of his career in the 70s, if I did this list for the 60s he would definately be near the top of the list
Hi Steve! This seemed well thought out. What was your criteria when coming up with these top 10? Good to see Palmer where he was placed. He doesn’t get much love in the hobby or at least what he deserves. Have a great weekend!
Thanks Andy! I should have outlined my criteria in the beginning. I was looking at starting pitcher's full body of work over the 10 years. That criteria leaves guys like Ron Guidry who had three great years at the end of the 70s off of the list. It also leaves out great relievers like Rollie Fingers or Goose Gossage.
Great video & choices. I did a video a year ago on my 1970s AS team. My top 4 pitchers were Ryan, Palmer, Seaver & Carlton. It was between Ryan or Jenkins. Take care n have a great weekend. I guess you received a ton of snow up by you!
Thanks Mike! it is hard to argue with those four choices! We have not had any real snow in our neck of the woods yet, when I was visiting my daughter in Syracuse we saw a lot of snow on the drive home especially around Buffalo! Enjoy your weekend.
When you say people may disagree with Nolan Ryan I hope you mean that he should have been rated higher. Nolan Ryan is an icon. Still throwing the ball 100 mph. when he was 40 years old. Nolan Ryan is the name even the kids recognize today.
Fantastic list and lineup! The fun thing about these lists... There is no right or wrong answer to rankings and who was in and out of the list. Jim Catfish Hunter was outstanding and is underrated in my opinion. I think Nolan Ryan goes higher on the list, but some people think he is overhyped. Just fun to see what people think. Nice cards and thanks for sharing with us.
Thanks Steve! I agree with you regarding no wrong or right answers. The fun part is hearing others thoughts on the topic, sports debates are always fun!
@@mrambler4235 He was a monster in 78 and had some other great years in the 70s. His career spanned the late 70s to the late 80s which may have hurt him for the decade of the 70s. He was definable one of the better pitchers of that era!
Great list Steve. It still blows me away that with the career he had Nolan Ryan still never won an Cy Young. To me it just shows how stacked the pitching was across baseball
@@EverydayCardCollector-Jason I need to talk to the wife. after spending two weeks visiting my daughter in Syracuse we are behind getting ready for Christmas. I need to put up outside decorations and this weekend might be as warm as it gets.
All great pitchers, and I have no problems with anyone on your list. As far as moving any of them up or down, it would be splitting hairs. Dang I'm starting to feel nostalgic looking at those Aces from my youth.
Love this direction in your latest video Steve! This is a great top 10 list. The DH certainly makes pitchers like Palmer have the edge. I think he’s the right choice for #1 for the decade. Would Goose Gossage or Ron Guidry have a honorable mention?
Thanks, Topher, I enjoy these types of videos and want to do them more often. I thought about adding Guidry's name in the beginning, he really only pitched three years in the 70s ,although 78 was a monster year. I think he would make a list of the 1980s. I was focused on Starters but Goosage and Fingers deserved some mention. Maybe I will need to do a best Relief Pitcher of the 70s video!
Nice countdown Steve, but I expected to see someone when I first started that never appeared. That is Ron Guidry. I know he only pitched 5 years in that decade but he was so dominant. I would put him in and I’m a Red Sox fan.
Great call out Peter, he was someone I meant to mention in the beginning. He really only pitched 3 years in the 70's although 78 was a dominant year. From 77-85 he was a stud! thanks for watching Peter, appreciate it!
Vida Blue's 1971 season was one of the finest of all time. That might make a good video too. The top pitching seasons of the 1970s. I was surprised to see Nolan Ryan so low on the list. I had to go look at his stats. He never had the monster season some of the other guys had. Fun video sir. How about some trivia - of the list of guys you showed, can you name the 3 pitchers who had cards that did not depict their real first name? Not looking for abbreviated names such as Don instead of Donald. :o) I was surprised by a couple.
Thanks Drew Appreciate it. Just saw this comment and off the top of my head I think I can name two, my two would be Nolan Ryan and Jim Hunter. The third I have no idea, thinking Fergie Jenkins or Bert Blyleven?
Gave a video like. All those guys were studs. If I was making the list of top ten pitchers of the 70's, I would have left Catfish Hunter out. I like Andy Messersmith and Frank Tanana in the 70s a little bit better. Fun seeing your list. Lists like this are so hard to put together. Very thought provoking and cool! Thanks for sharing, Steve.
Thanks Brian. Both Tanana and Messersmith are great calls. I think for me,had Tanana pitched a few more years in the 70s his case would have been stronger. Messersmith was a stud in the 70s with two 20 game seasons and 5 straight sub 3 seasons. He was on my list and has a strong case for being in the top ten!
I was skeptical about Tanana so I looked up his stats. He had a great, long career and was especially good from 1974 through 1978. The Angels weren't great during the 70's, but they had great starting pitching. If you had put Messersmith, Tanana and Nolan Ryan in front of the Reds lineup, they would have been unbeatable.
@@RodericSpode Tanana had a great run in the 70's, and if he and Ryan had pitched for a better team, they would have had more Ws. When I was a kid in Southern California the saying was Tannana and Ryan and two days of Crying! that was before Messersmith joined the Angels. Messersmith is some one who could have made my list he had a great run in the 70s!
I think Tom Seaver is clearly number one, with virtually the same ERA as Palmer, but 64.2 fWAR to 45.2, more strikeouts and fewer walks. Ranking Sutton above Blyleven seems a bit Dodger-ish. ;-) Phil Niekro should be in the top ten, replacing Sutton or Vida Blue. Otherwise a commendable list,
Those are very valid points, it was very close between Palmer and Seaver for me. For their careers, Seaver definitely has the edge. You might be right on Sutton :) Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
@@MikeRBurch Agree Seaver is one of the handful of best righty starters of all time Palmer was obviously outstanding as well, but he played on much better teams than Seaver did
@@painless465 Yes, and Palmer had all-time great defenders in Brooks Robinson, Mark Belanger, Paul Blair, Bobby Grich and Davey Johnson to help keep his ERA down. Hell, Palmer won four gold gloves himself, so when he pitched that defense was airtight!
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As an Orioles fan since the late ‘60’s, thanks for giving Jim Palmer some love. I loved watching him pitch, his windup and his fabulous curve ball. The Orioles staff of 1970 was incredible. He could hit a little, for a pitcher, too. My favorite stat of his is never giving up a grand slam in his long career. Good stuff, my friend, very interesting and informative.
@@jeffreyparks2371 I am also a big Palmer fan, he was one of the best pitcher I have ever seen. The grand slam statistic is great, I wish I would have known it prior to taping.
Appreciate you watching,enjoy the rest of your weekend!
@@vintageonvintage817 Liked & subscribed.
Another O's fan here, and Jim Palmer's greatness is too often underrated (I've even seen a rating where he was called something ridiculous, like the least deserving pitcher in the Hall of Fame!). In the decade you've covered here he won 20 or more games in eight out of ten seasons, and that included three years where he pitched a ridiculous 300+ innings per season. Besides his grand slam record, I believe he's also the only pitcher in MLB history with World Series victories in three different decades.
For me, his most memorable win in the Fall Classic has to be Game 2 in 1966, in which as a rookie he outpitched Dodger legend Sandy Koufax, hurling a 6-0 shutout in what would be the latter's final game on the mound. Regrettably, Koufax's arm blew out before Tommy John surgery was around. No doubt this was part of the reason he gave up an uncharacteristically high number of runs against the O's (another part being how Baltimore had a very strong offense, led by Frank Robinson, who was the American League MVP that year and hit for the Triple Crown). It's a pity that the game didn't take place when Sandy was in his prime -- that would have been quite a pitchers' duel.
My favorite pitcher and a huge Os fan. He was poetry on the mound. Injuries most likely kept him from 300 wins. 10 shutouts in one season, not complete games, but shutouts. Amazing
Yep, not even from MD, but an O's fan, and Jim Palmer was amazing. From shutting out the Dodgers and Koufax in '66 WS to the end of his career he was the real deal. And the '71 staff with 4 20 game winners, wow...
@@nplus1watches35 agree, thinking about doing a video about that 71 staff
Another guy who pitched on some bad teams in the seventies, but was a workhorse. He made between 20 to 45 starts, over 300 innings in four of those years, not to mention 217 career wins, 2800 plus strikeouts in his career, and his legendary performance in the 68 fall classic. Mickey Lolich. Great list!!!
I agree! Lolich put up some great numbers in both the 60s and 70s and deserves more credit for just how good a pitcher he was.
Lolich was a workhorse, a strikeout machine. Would definitely make my list.
Before the 1968 World Series, Roger Maris warned the Cardinals that they would have their hands full with Lolich, more so than with 30 game winner McLain.
Grew up in Baltimore 8n the 70s, so I'm compelled to agree with your number 1.
Thanks, appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Awesome video Steve!! Thanks for sharing your list and these amazing vintage cards!! Growing up in that era these pitchers brought back a lot of memories!! Being from Minnesota I especially remember watching on television Bert Blyleven’s first game. He won that game against the Washington Senators 2-1 as a 19 year old.
Thanks Ken! That is really cool that you watched Blyleven pitch and win his first game! He was such an awesome pitcher.
Hi Steve, I watched this yesterday, but just had a moment to comment now. These are fun lists to put together and I appreciate the time you put into it. I also want to start with how much I enjoy seeing the cards. That can sometimes be forgotten in these types of videos. I always appreciate when the collector has cards of the player they are talking about, and you showed some great cards. I think what hurts Ryan on for being considered higher is the number of walks he had - over 1,500 in the 70s, which was much higher than anyone else on your list. None of those guys even broke a 1,000. I was also surprised that Seaver was only 374 strikeouts behind Ryan for the decade, and he was about 200 ahead of Carlton. I knew he was a strikeout pitcher, but didn't realize he was ahead of Carleton for the decade. I agree with you that Palmer was the best of the 70s but as you noted its close. You did a really nice job researching and putting this together. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Terry! I appreciate your comment on the cards. I will always try to show cards in my videos. For that video, I wanted them all to be from the 1970s! I agree with you on Ryan. He was a great pitcher who could be dominant but also struggled with control. People always remember his Strikeouts but seem to forget that he also owns the record for most walks by a large margin, he is the only player in MLB history with over 2,000. Although I still think Ryan is an all-time great I also think he is a bit overrated and over-hyped in the hobby. Always appreciate you watching, enjoy your Sunday!
Those included in the list are spot on.
@@ron88303 Thanks, appreciate you watching!
One great thing about those pitchers was that they were not overpaid pitchers who would run out of gas by the sixth inning.
Agreed, they earned their money back then!
Great choices Steve, thank you for sharing your collection and thoughts.
Thanks Orlando!
Great ranking, Steve, and awesome cards. Cool seeing Blue on your list, and Perry is one of those guys who I wished I got to see ptich in his prime. That's a fantastic '71 card of him. Thanks for making the list and sharing it!
Thanks John! Vida was such a talented pitcher, who is on the fringe of the Hall in my opinion. Perry was one of those guys that never impressed you but at the end of the year had some really solid stats. I will eventually send that 71 of Perry to SGC, thinking it will come back a 6 like most of the ones I send in.☺
Good stuff again, my man. As a baseball fan in the 70s, that was the golden era.
It really was a great time for baseball! Appreciate you watching!
As always, well done, Steve. Enjoyed your list AND the cards. Palmer and Seaver never seem to get the true hobby attention each deserves, especially Jim Palmer. Gaylord Perry was a surprise performer. Never knew the stats for him in the '70's. Great research. Take care, my friend.
Thanks Rob, Appreciate it my friend! I was surprised myself by Perry's run in the 1970s when you look at it in total is really was impressive!
Steve! Great list and cards, my friend! I agree with you on the rankings. Wonder why Palmer doesn’t get more attention? He had such an amazing career. Thanks for sharing and have a fantastic weekend!!!
Thanks Rob! I agree with you on Palmer, he never gets listed during the discussions of best of all time and he should. Thanks for watching my friend, enjoy your weekend!
Superb list! Agree about Palmer and many others on your top 10. Shout out to Andy Messersmith: his .212 career opponents' batting average is 4th all-time after Ryan, Koufax and Kershaw. Also loved JR Richard. Absolute flamethrower!!!
Thanks, Really appreciate it. I agree with you on Messersmith he was someone I meant to call out in the beginning of the video. He and Tiant are two that just missed my top ten and both have a strong case to be in it! JR Richard was a beast, it is too bad his career was cut short, he and Ryan in the same rotation would have been amazing!
Very cool list and cards, I was waiting to hear El Tianté and Juan Marichal.
Thanks, I really appreciate it! Tiant just missed out for me, but it was close. Marichal was nearing the end of his career in the 70s, if I did this list for the 60s he would definately be near the top of the list
Awesome list, Steve, and even better cards!
Thanks Bill, appreciate it my friend!
Hi Steve! This seemed well thought out. What was your criteria when coming up with these top 10?
Good to see Palmer where he was placed. He doesn’t get much love in the hobby or at least what he deserves.
Have a great weekend!
Thanks Andy! I should have outlined my criteria in the beginning. I was looking at starting pitcher's full body of work over the 10 years. That criteria leaves guys like Ron Guidry who had three great years at the end of the 70s off of the list. It also leaves out great relievers like Rollie Fingers or Goose Gossage.
Tough list to compile since there we so many great pitchers in the 70s. Great choices! Happy Holidays!
Thanks Hammer, Same to you my friend!
I have that 1970 Seaver card, but it is Dave Dave Giusti on the back (error card). Priceless and maybe available for sale...
Great video & choices. I did a video a year ago on my 1970s AS team. My top 4 pitchers were Ryan, Palmer, Seaver & Carlton. It was between Ryan or Jenkins. Take care n have a great weekend. I guess you received a ton of snow up by you!
Thanks Mike! it is hard to argue with those four choices! We have not had any real snow in our neck of the woods yet, when I was visiting my daughter in Syracuse we saw a lot of snow on the drive home especially around Buffalo! Enjoy your weekend.
@vintageonvintage817 Up at High Point, NJ they had 20" already at one time!
When you say people may disagree with Nolan Ryan I hope you mean that he should have been rated higher. Nolan Ryan is an icon. Still throwing the ball 100 mph. when he was 40 years old. Nolan Ryan is the name even the kids recognize today.
@@johnr8309 That is what I meant, I know there are some who would have had him higher and I can understand that.Thanks for watching!
Fantastic list and lineup! The fun thing about these lists... There is no right or wrong answer to rankings and who was in and out of the list. Jim Catfish Hunter was outstanding and is underrated in my opinion. I think Nolan Ryan goes higher on the list, but some people think he is overhyped. Just fun to see what people think. Nice cards and thanks for sharing with us.
Thanks Steve! I agree with you regarding no wrong or right answers. The fun part is hearing others thoughts on the topic, sports debates are always fun!
Ron "Louisiana Lightening" Guidry. 25-3 in 1978.
@@mrambler4235 He was a monster in 78 and had some other great years in the 70s. His career spanned the late 70s to the late 80s which may have hurt him for the decade of the 70s. He was definable one of the better pitchers of that era!
Great list Steve. It still blows me away that with the career he had Nolan Ryan still never won an Cy Young. To me it just shows how stacked the pitching was across baseball
Thanks Drew! Pitching was stacked during his career, his two best years he lost to Jim Palmer and Catfish Hunter!
Hey Steve! Nice list and awesome cards! I agree with all except Blyleven, would definitely have Tiant ahead of him.
@@PickerJimS Tiant was a tough one for me to leave off, he is definitely deserving. Appreciate you watching enjoy your weekend!
Thanks Steve! I hope you have a nice weekend too!
Great list Steve! I feel like Sutton and Catfish are both under appreciated in the hobby!
I agree Jason! Appreciate you watching, have a great weekend. We need to connect soon and go look at cards!
@ Fore sure! There is a card show at can county fairgrounds this weekend. 180 tables. I am not buying a ton, but might go tomorrow to film some video.
@@EverydayCardCollector-Jason I need to talk to the wife. after spending two weeks visiting my daughter in Syracuse we are behind getting ready for Christmas. I need to put up outside decorations and this weekend might be as warm as it gets.
Great list Steve!
Thanks Mitchell! Wilbur Wood was another guy who had a great run in the 70s.
@; yes he did!
Well done 👍 my friend.
Thanks really appreciate it!
All great pitchers, and I have no problems with anyone on your list. As far as moving any of them up or down, it would be splitting hairs. Dang I'm starting to feel nostalgic looking at those Aces from my youth.
I watched Bert Blyleven pitch for the Evansville Triplets when I was 15 back in 1970.
@@diamondgems45 That is really cool! Thanks for watching!
@ No prob!
Great list and great cards Steve. I would put Ryan higher, but I'm biased...
@@returntocollecting Thought you might! Thanks for watching, enjoy your weekend!
I would keep Palmer where is, but I am also biased 😅
Love this direction in your latest video Steve! This is a great top 10 list. The DH certainly makes pitchers like Palmer have the edge. I think he’s the right choice for #1 for the decade.
Would Goose Gossage or Ron Guidry have a honorable mention?
Thanks, Topher, I enjoy these types of videos and want to do them more often.
I thought about adding Guidry's name in the beginning, he really only pitched three years in the 70s ,although 78 was a monster year. I think he would make a list of the 1980s. I was focused on Starters but Goosage and Fingers deserved some mention. Maybe I will need to do a best Relief Pitcher of the 70s video!
Nice countdown Steve, but I expected to see someone when I first started that never appeared. That is Ron Guidry. I know he only pitched 5 years in that decade but he was so dominant. I would put him in and I’m a Red Sox fan.
Great call out Peter, he was someone I meant to mention in the beginning. He really only pitched 3 years in the 70's although 78 was a dominant year. From 77-85 he was a stud! thanks for watching Peter, appreciate it!
Vida Blue's 1971 season was one of the finest of all time. That might make a good video too. The top pitching seasons of the 1970s. I was surprised to see Nolan Ryan so low on the list. I had to go look at his stats. He never had the monster season some of the other guys had. Fun video sir. How about some trivia - of the list of guys you showed, can you name the 3 pitchers who had cards that did not depict their real first name? Not looking for abbreviated names such as Don instead of Donald. :o) I was surprised by a couple.
Thanks Drew Appreciate it. Just saw this comment and off the top of my head I think I can name two, my two would be Nolan Ryan and Jim Hunter. The third I have no idea, thinking Fergie Jenkins or Bert Blyleven?
@@vintageonvintage817 They are; Lynn Nolan Ryan, Rik Aalbert Blyleven, and George Thomas Seaver
Gave a video like. All those guys were studs. If I was making the list of top ten pitchers of the 70's, I would have left Catfish Hunter out. I like Andy Messersmith and Frank Tanana in the 70s a little bit better. Fun seeing your list. Lists like this are so hard to put together. Very thought provoking and cool! Thanks for sharing, Steve.
Thanks Brian. Both Tanana and Messersmith are great calls. I think for me,had Tanana pitched a few more years in the 70s his case would have been stronger. Messersmith was a stud in the 70s with two 20 game seasons and 5 straight sub 3 seasons. He was on my list and has a strong case for being in the top ten!
I was skeptical about Tanana so I looked up his stats. He had a great, long career and was especially good from 1974 through 1978. The Angels weren't great during the 70's, but they had great starting pitching. If you had put Messersmith, Tanana and Nolan Ryan in front of the Reds lineup, they would have been unbeatable.
@@RodericSpode Tanana had a great run in the 70's, and if he and Ryan had pitched for a better team, they would have had more Ws. When I was a kid in Southern California the saying was Tannana and Ryan and two days of Crying! that was before Messersmith joined the Angels. Messersmith is some one who could have made my list he had a great run in the 70s!
The complete games and shoutouts these guys had were insane. They don’t make em like that anymore…….
That's for sure, it was a different era! Thanks for watching really appreciate it!
Well, that's because today they have more relievers.
I’ll wait around until I hear the name Wayne Twitchell!
Well, you gotta have Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver and Jim Palmer among them...
@@George50809 you sure do!
@@vintageonvintage817 I made that comment before watching the video. Felt pretty good that they all made it.
Seaver not #1 is a bit of a hot take Overall good list, and you know its a good list when Ryan is not #1
It was really close for me between Seaver and Palmer. Seaver definitely had the better overall career. Thanks for watching; I appreciate it!
Palmer had the advantage over Ryan of pitching for a powerhouse team. Ryan has most strikeouts ever and no one is close. Ryan should be in top four.
@@josephshields2922 Agree thst Palmer did pitch for a better team which helped his win total . Ryan also walked the most batters ever.
I think Tom Seaver is clearly number one, with virtually the same ERA as Palmer, but 64.2 fWAR to 45.2, more strikeouts and fewer walks.
Ranking Sutton above Blyleven seems a bit Dodger-ish. ;-)
Phil Niekro should be in the top ten, replacing Sutton or Vida Blue.
Otherwise a commendable list,
Those are very valid points, it was very close between Palmer and Seaver for me. For their careers, Seaver definitely has the edge. You might be right on Sutton :) Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
@@vintageonvintage817 I'm a fan of Jim Palmer, but fWAR says Seaver was markedly better in the 1970s.
@@MikeRBurch Agree Seaver is one of the handful of best righty starters of all time Palmer was obviously outstanding as well, but he played on much better teams than Seaver did
@@painless465 Yes, and Palmer had all-time great defenders in Brooks Robinson, Mark Belanger, Paul Blair, Bobby Grich and Davey Johnson to help keep his ERA down. Hell, Palmer won four gold gloves himself, so when he pitched that defense was airtight!
I would have chosen Babe Ruth when he was with Boston.
😂Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!
Luis Tiant
@@johncirillo9544 He was so close to making my top 10, big Tiant fan, bummed he didn’t get in the Hall!
I ll take Ryan ,Kofax and Carlton over any other pictures.
No 5 inning pitch count prima donnas on this list. Today's pitchers are coddled weaklings.
@@keysersoze503 agree