Jamie Bryson in discussion with Joe Brolly

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2021
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  • @shanemccaughley6495
    @shanemccaughley6495 2 года назад +111

    Joe Brolly should be a Loyalist Conversion Therapist. Brilliant discussion 👏

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 года назад

      No he is simply polite but not persuaded.

    • @robertmaher377
      @robertmaher377 2 года назад +7

      When you ask for legal advice from Wish you get Jamie Bryson.....but fair play to him for talking to Joe Brolly 👏 I am sure he learnt a thing or two!

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 2 года назад

      @@robertmaher377 Joe was doing his best as big man not to patronise but even you surely must see ppl like a different hymn view. Especially when never intergrate to countenance another indegious person

    • @TheNinyo77
      @TheNinyo77 2 года назад

      Why this goof is given any credence?!! Is beyond me , Brolly allowing an almost vice versa bs !!! It wasn't ,it was a unionist state attacking the minority community ffs

    • @Minime163
      @Minime163 2 года назад

      No harm to talk if they can't fully agree they might be able to meet half way.
      The most important thing in northern Ireland is to get it up and running and preserving the peace wheather northern Ireland desides to stay in the UK or join a United Ireland is entirely up to them remember unionism and nationalism are 2 equally legitimate aspersions but the extremists must be taken out of the aquaision.
      I usually totally disagree with Jamie Bryson but fair play to him and Joe for at least talking where you have dialogue you have hope.

  • @bobms7780
    @bobms7780 2 года назад +39

    As a proud Irishman, I really enjoyed that discussion and Jamie having a conversation about it.
    Fair play

  • @TheNoSuchThingPodcast
    @TheNoSuchThingPodcast Год назад +25

    Fair play to Jamie for hosting this. We need more of this and these conversations barely happened years ago

    • @josephgallery4934
      @josephgallery4934 2 месяца назад

      Please he's a bigot who doesn't know his history.

  • @Dellen-Roger
    @Dellen-Roger 2 года назад +85

    I absolutely love Joe Brolly. A true gaelic man and a genius analyst. 👏

    • @mow3186
      @mow3186 2 года назад +9

      The Hill loved to hate him anyway. Great player with a great eye for a score.

  • @williammccormick64
    @williammccormick64 2 года назад +46

    This what you should be doing Jamie talking...listening....learning ....and realising we have more to gain by getting on ....

  • @colmbloomer8668
    @colmbloomer8668 2 года назад +22

    The most serious issue facing N.I. is an improvement to Jamie's internet connection, impossible to get a word in against Joe at the best of times, lol.

  • @antipodesman
    @antipodesman Год назад +7

    Boy that hits close to home. My family roots were in Dungiven. One of my great uncles born in 1912 was in the RUC probably long before the troubles. Now my sympathy is for secular reunification.

  • @jimbanda
    @jimbanda 2 года назад +15

    Stumbled on this , Im three years older than Joe, the troubles were there during my formative and teenage years, but I never really knew what started it or why it continued.
    It was vicious and relentless and I hope the peace can be maintained , and that generations will bring social unity and understanding. 🙏

  • @padraigohogain8649
    @padraigohogain8649 2 года назад +93

    Jamie and Joe, excellent video with constructive analysis of the 'ethno-politcal' sociality that exists within the North. Shame the video ended. I am more akin to Joe's idealogies but that being said I admire the fact they got together and talked. Thanks Jamie and Joe

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +5

      Same here seen Jamie in a more tolerant light here

    • @theflowerofscotland9737
      @theflowerofscotland9737 2 года назад +2

      @@jackietreehorn5561 Why, why why are you hanging around, to hear the scrapping that is bwyson, speak more moderately?

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад

      @@theflowerofscotland9737 who is this wodawick? Who shall I welease?

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

      Jamie Bwyson

    • @briankelly5870
      @briankelly5870 2 года назад

      Jamie is a gluebag wannabe paisley has 73 votes 😂😂😂 him calling them the ruc when they was in collusion hilarious

  • @TrishMorris-Thompson
    @TrishMorris-Thompson 9 месяцев назад +4

    A great mature conversation. Essential to todays new beginnings in NI

  • @JustSean413
    @JustSean413 2 года назад +113

    I grew up in the ''troubles'' from a mixed background mum was protestant dad was Catholic and i had some cousins, uncles who were staunch Republicans on my dads side and had an uncle in the UDR and relatives in the Orange order on my mums side and we always have and always will remain very close as they are all family. I was raised Catholic and Nationalist with a very small n but was brought up to take people at face value and to respect all life. My own kids now have absolutely no interest in green/orange politics and have friends in both communities my eldest son plays football with a team mostly from a Protestant background and some of those guys are his closest friends. Would i like to see a united Ireland? Yes but only if both communities accepted it and my only reason for wanting to see it happen is because Northern Ireland has been kept the most deprived area in the Union with very little investment and for as long as their is a Tory government this will remain the case and no matter what nonsense some say about the South they have a far higher standard of living than we have in the North, i have seen that for myself having worked in the Republic their investment in communities is far higher than what we receive. Peace!!!

    • @yankorusev
      @yankorusev 2 года назад +3

      So well said🙏🙏

    • @northernwhatshapping6724
      @northernwhatshapping6724 Год назад +4

      Alot of what you have said is true. But for the investment side in the South yes in and around Dublin there is massive investment but go outside of Dublin there is very little investment

    • @jdfiend
      @jdfiend 10 месяцев назад +4

      Little investment? The British pay 10 billion a year to keep northern ireland going

  • @michealjones9863
    @michealjones9863 2 года назад +8

    Great vid can’t believe these are the same guys from the telly. Brolly and Bryson having a mature respectful conversation without the help of a presenter from the bbc RTÉ or the perfectly placed member of the public in the audience. So refreshing and hopefull

  • @user-fi5ee9ru1o
    @user-fi5ee9ru1o 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's really good to hear a discussion between a Loyalist and a nationalist . A discussion about their different views and beliefs about what happened in their communities throughout the troubles. It's a start and it needs to continue .

  • @darkraider4742
    @darkraider4742 2 года назад +10

    Very good discussions … Joe Brolly explained the kids future in a civilised country is very important. Those kids are the future . Let them both live in peace and in friendship ..

  • @evelynmccabe3855
    @evelynmccabe3855 Год назад +8

    Very enjoyable interview. Great to see the two guys from different sides chatting to each other.

  • @rossmorebaz
    @rossmorebaz 2 года назад +19

    this is exactly what we should be doing .. sitting down and talking to each other .. listening to the perspective from both sides ..have we learned nothing from the past ?.. For both sectors of the community violence and conflict is the last thing we both need. ... Massive Respect to Jamie Bryson for doing this

  • @ruairi52
    @ruairi52 2 года назад +31

    What happened to the rest of the conversation? It was brilliant until then 👏

  • @iandonnelly7707
    @iandonnelly7707 2 года назад +39

    Wee Jamie never got a word in as Joe the barrister ran rings round the para legal Eagle with non stop facts

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +6

      When paid education meets self taught...wee J needs a bit more teaching

  • @aidanmarkey2386
    @aidanmarkey2386 2 года назад +24

    This is so intriguing. Absolutely love the perspective of 2 good speakers. Brolly as charismatic as always and Bryson has really become very good and coherent over the years. Shame it cut out so abruptly. Could watch 3 hours of this

    • @georgousgeorge69
      @georgousgeorge69 2 года назад +6

      Bryson was coherent?

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +2

      Actually seen wee Jamie in a different light here

    • @Minime163
      @Minime163 2 года назад +2

      Yea Jamie did actually come across well here he could actually do great things for northern Ireland if he studied himself and put his views across in a reasonable way he could be part of a bright future for northern Ireland just a view from the republic

    • @gallaghergibson8024
      @gallaghergibson8024 2 года назад +2

      @@Minime163 i've thought this for years about jamie. and brolly is not a bad analogue from the other side. there's the germ of intellect there, a mind at work. but the dopamine hit from shithousery is just so addictive...

  • @folanstephen
    @folanstephen 2 года назад +8

    More of these types of conversations. Good video.

  • @Bigramt
    @Bigramt 2 года назад +14

    I enjoyed this
    Jamie gets a bad rap from the nationalists, but he seems a decent guy. I know he has done some great charity work and I remember him helping a young Catholic boy recently
    As a nationalist I don't obviously agree with his politics, but I'm willing to listen to everyone's views and enjoy debating myself. I'm from Derry so remember fondly Joe being a part of the the 93 All Ireland winning team that lifted the Sam Maguire Cup. Now Sam himself was a protestant and it's the most prestigious trophy in GAA
    Great discussion guys, should do it again!

    • @shawndart7787
      @shawndart7787 Год назад

      Bryson is a uvf rat who's friends include rapists and drug dealers

  • @BridgetonBhoy
    @BridgetonBhoy 2 года назад +44

    Why did it end so abruptly Jamie? Was Mr. Brolly talking too much sense?

  • @gerardodwyer5908
    @gerardodwyer5908 2 года назад +20

    An instructive conversation between a man living in the year 2022 and a man trapped in Plantation Ulster 1622 with all the insecurities. Vision and looking forward in combat with an obsession with NI's protestant ascendancy, now thankfully gone, and medieval past.

    • @drik1486
      @drik1486 Год назад +1

      You get that by insulting one side of the argument you have missed the entire point of their conversation right?

  • @johnconlon2207
    @johnconlon2207 9 месяцев назад

    Brilliant interview. Well done by both interviewer and interviewee. sane discussion is getting rarer

  • @vey9821
    @vey9821 2 года назад +6

    Great work from both sides.

  • @hammersmashedspud4345
    @hammersmashedspud4345 2 года назад +8

    Had a perception of Bryson that he was an irresponsible mouth but this is was very good . Brolly is an articulate and intelligent man and a GAA legend

  • @DL10663
    @DL10663 Год назад +2

    Nice respectful conversation. More of this please!

  • @michaelcassidy1864
    @michaelcassidy1864 2 года назад +2

    it's difficult for me to adequately express my appreciation of two intelligent individuals from both communities sitting down to respectfully discuss the horrid past. I lived in it back in the late 60s. Its remarkable to see a relative state of peace in that troubled part of Ireland. And this despite the attempts of the Tory government to destroy important aspects of the Protocol.

  • @liammcguigan4578
    @liammcguigan4578 2 года назад +3

    Completely schooled with unbiased facts and common sense 👏 cut off because of it

  • @shamrockgerry
    @shamrockgerry 2 года назад +8

    But what brilliant interesting interview. By both guys... Brilliant!.

  • @ramasun3656
    @ramasun3656 Год назад +3

    This was interesting. I'd like to see more of this kind of conversation. I think Jamie Bryson did well to allow the interview flow even when Joe Brolly was going off the reservation.

  • @Fran-ct4kb
    @Fran-ct4kb Год назад +5

    How can Jamie equate what was felt in the 70’s with how loyalists feel now?

    • @dermymoto
      @dermymoto 4 месяца назад +2

      Agreed....utterly farcical

  • @conoranthonycrowley6852
    @conoranthonycrowley6852 2 года назад +25

    Northern Ireland has had such a tough time. I hope this protocol can bring economic prosperity to both communities. Heart warming discussion.

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 2 года назад +7

      Do you think Jamie knows, that cheese ,was made in the Irish republic????

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +2

      @@jamesoneill2933 Jamie is a flat earther!

    • @jamesoneill2933
      @jamesoneill2933 2 года назад +1

      @@jackietreehorn5561 👍

    • @pedclarkemobile
      @pedclarkemobile 2 года назад

      @@jackietreehorn5561 I follow JB on twatter for a laugh, he tweets some daft stuff.
      I have not come across any Flat Earth comments, have you got any links to tweets or vids of him talking about Flat Earth?
      I'd love to see some.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +3

      @@pedclarkemobile sure he took a boat to the other side of the earth and fell off...they still can't find him

  • @windowman929
    @windowman929 Год назад +4

    If Joe believed in equality he would give Jamie a chance to get a word in edgeways.🇮🇪

  • @Cm1st
    @Cm1st 2 года назад +5

    Great interview. I love Joe Brolly, he's a legend, but God bless him he didn't let the young lad get a word in😆🇮🇪 Pity, as the lad's questions were very good.

  • @LFC96100
    @LFC96100 2 года назад +19

    Fairplay lads, Brilliant conversation

  • @jamesduffy9946
    @jamesduffy9946 2 года назад +4

    Joe brolly completely nail it,,I’m not a fan of Jamie but fair play to him for talking his point and also listening.

  • @freezerjoe
    @freezerjoe 11 месяцев назад +2

    “I’ve seen you standing on a wheelie bin addressing 7 or 8 lads” 😂

  • @k2008
    @k2008 2 года назад +7

    Excellent discussion. Thanks to both.
    Jamie your video streaming is very choppy.

  • @conorfields2660
    @conorfields2660 2 года назад +7

    Good to see Jamie having a reasonable discussion with joe

  • @adrianred236
    @adrianred236 9 месяцев назад +2

    Jamie and other loyalists problem is that when you come from a position of dominance, equal rights feels like discrimination.

  • @napper9812
    @napper9812 2 года назад +8

    Fascinating to see this type of discussion going on. It's just a pity it ended so abruptly, is there more of this debate on YT somewhere?
    Bravo to both participants.

  • @TrishMorris-Thompson
    @TrishMorris-Thompson 9 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing interview. It reminds me of a day circa 2012 when I was walking through the lords session , the debate was on admitting Catholics to the RUC. The Irvine continued when I was asked my then my mentor who was a cross bencher, if I would consider applying for her replacement, a nurse fulfilling a constitutional responsibility. I had to remind her I was an Irish Citizen and I therefore may neither be eligible or welcome at that point. So much irony in one visit!

  • @tomweldon7608
    @tomweldon7608 2 года назад +3

    Great interview

  • @collydub1987
    @collydub1987 2 года назад +5

    'People in my community feel like we have been squeezed into a corner'... Isn't that exactly what NI is in the first place?

  • @Bighairyjoesph
    @Bighairyjoesph 4 месяца назад +1

    "Legal institute. What is that?"
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kevycanavan
    @kevycanavan 10 месяцев назад +2

    Jamie. Your nationalist neighbours are your brothers and sisters. We have far more in common with each other than we do with anyone in England. Let’s keep these conversations going.

  • @thecarpetman7687
    @thecarpetman7687 2 года назад +10

    Jamie needs to stump up some cash for a broadband upgrade 🤣

  • @georgousgeorge69
    @georgousgeorge69 2 года назад +12

    And this right here is a great representation of Catholic education and the man fighting against it. Only 1 winner

  • @Wk-tj4vz
    @Wk-tj4vz 2 года назад +3

    When Jaimie talks like this people will listen.
    He needs to give his nonsense scaremongering a rest but fair Play to him and Joe for a great discussion.

  • @rickoshea8370
    @rickoshea8370 2 года назад +6

    Great interview lads,,, shame none of you brought up the issue of nuclear waste been dumped into the 6 counties,,

  • @brian5307
    @brian5307 2 года назад +11

    Where is the rest??

  • @sanhanzuk2009
    @sanhanzuk2009 2 года назад +2

    I’d like to have listened to this for a lot longer and here more from Jamie - I’m no fan of his, but would like to hear his contribution and challenges-responses. This was a bit 90/10

  • @thomasmarshall3021
    @thomasmarshall3021 2 года назад +2

    I remember belfast city centre with the turnstiles I was 16yrs old il never forget it but I've always went back for 41yrs now and still go

  • @MichaelTynan-kr6mt
    @MichaelTynan-kr6mt Год назад +2

    This needs to be revisited by both with another interview.

  • @GJ1607.
    @GJ1607. 2 года назад +3

    As an irish republican this was a good discussion however I feel joe spoke to much and spoke over jamie a bit I would like to have heard more from Jamie about the perception of his community being under siege and what joes response would be to that

  • @jimhughes2641
    @jimhughes2641 2 года назад +1

    Not a particular fan of either party to be honest but I think this debate proves we have more that unites us than divides us if we take the time to listen to each other.

  • @roberthayes3009
    @roberthayes3009 9 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone born on the Island of Ireland is classed as Irish in England and Everywhere else too, No matter what Passport a person has ....and that's Jamie Included

  • @user-vl7qb5zf1q
    @user-vl7qb5zf1q 5 месяцев назад +3

    The peace process does have a conclusion. It's called a single entity Ireland.
    Partition should never have happened.

  • @georgebrowne5935
    @georgebrowne5935 2 года назад +4

    Maturity and Wisdom unfortunately comes with Years..
    The Land Border caused traffic delays and People,Car Searches, and infringed on People's daily lives.
    The Sea Border doesn't infringe on ordinary People's daily lives, but on Goods, which could of been avoided if Britain stayed in the Single Market.

  • @neillanda1268
    @neillanda1268 2 года назад +8

    Joe is a decent spud

  • @eisirt55
    @eisirt55 Год назад

    That was very interesting . More of this please . The solution lies in exchanges of this nature and de-segregation of the education system.

  • @juliemadden1206
    @juliemadden1206 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant lads👍

  • @jamesoneill2933
    @jamesoneill2933 2 года назад +1

    You know , of course you know , remember when he gave his sermon on the bin , I distinctly heard him say ," Blessed are the cheese makers".

  • @christopherbraniff3644
    @christopherbraniff3644 2 года назад +8

    Jamie Brysons Internet is even useless.

    • @irishguy9311
      @irishguy9311 2 года назад +2

      It’s that aul wiweless Internet he’s using!!!😂😅

  • @michaelking9772
    @michaelking9772 Год назад +1

    It's good to talk gents but also it's good to listen.!!!!

  • @garethrice1266
    @garethrice1266 11 месяцев назад

    A very good discussion. Good points raised by both parties.

  • @nedhappened3085
    @nedhappened3085 2 года назад +6

    Where is the of the video?

  • @lorcanfeely6371
    @lorcanfeely6371 2 года назад +1

    Please publish the rest

  • @Crease36
    @Crease36 2 года назад +2

    The Chartered Institute of Legal Executives. You can become a member too, for just £30 per year...
    Please note: It only has power and is recognised in England and Wales...

  • @markyinbelfastxx9088
    @markyinbelfastxx9088 Год назад +3

    Joe surprised me there , hats off to him
    As a unionist I gotta say he spoke great sense 👏

  • @assess1973
    @assess1973 2 года назад +4

    I really welcomed this watch. It’s healthy, and refreshing. What a performance from joe brolly! A learned impartial balanced view from the most desperate of beginnings. Schooling a young man with anxieties based on little or no foundation other than his opaque beliefs his heritage is being threatened. And hopefully the realisation that Boris doesn’t particularly care either.

  • @rmaxwell5981
    @rmaxwell5981 Год назад

    Great discussion.

  • @Rathbarron2010
    @Rathbarron2010 Год назад +1

    Is it just me or has the video been cut short. I enjoyed it

  • @michaelharrison5564
    @michaelharrison5564 2 года назад +2

    Can’t believe I’m saying this but think I kinda like Jamie. I’ve lived away from Belfast for a while now and just have this real feeling to go back and connect with other sides of the community. We just need to listen to each other, have the craic, continue the peace. How far we have come though, stuff like this is heart warming.

  • @conorledwith530
    @conorledwith530 2 года назад +4

    A great input by both guys until Bryson suggested that the protocol threatens loyalist identity,what a load of Bull.

  • @contakt23
    @contakt23 Год назад +1

    fair play to Jamie and Joe , need to be talking not hatin

  • @sc2539
    @sc2539 2 года назад +21

    Very interesting listen. Joe is right…here in the republic a persons religion is irrelevant and I think the north is heading that way. There are much more important and pressing matters than flags and symbols. Both sides should be able to practice and enjoy their own heritage. Real everyday life and struggles is what matters most.

  • @Deneyboy1
    @Deneyboy1 2 года назад +1

    Any link for part 2

  • @noelmcloughney6240
    @noelmcloughney6240 11 месяцев назад

    ITS GOOD TO SEE YE, AT LEAST TALKING YO EACH OTHER IN CIVILIZWE WAY

  • @johnnorth1961
    @johnnorth1961 11 месяцев назад +3

    I as a Dubliner born and bred a Catholic but non practising for years applied and was accepted to become a PSNI officer, the selection process was fair and far superior to the selection of Gardai in the Republic,my intention and what impressed during the interview was I wanted to serve and make a difference to the many different sections of the people of Northern Ireland, I have and will always respect the different views, opinions, religious beliefs, gender, ethnicity etc, etc.. Long story short I never got the chance to serve as my then spouse wouldn't make the move, I regret it to this day

    • @JustYourAverageGodzillaEnjoyer
      @JustYourAverageGodzillaEnjoyer 3 месяца назад

      Hi I think your motivation to be a PSNI officer is actually quite inspiring. I have never heard a cop or would be officer use words like this. I hope you became one in the south because you obviously have the right attitude

  • @dhss333
    @dhss333 2 года назад +5

    If as & when Jamie holidays in England, Scotland, Wales , as what nationality will those he meets there think of, refer to and address him? IRISH!

    • @drik1486
      @drik1486 Год назад

      Wow what a crazy insightful argument I can't believe you solved the identity conflict just like that if only someone had said it earlier 💀

    • @dhss333
      @dhss333 Год назад

      @@drik1486 Someone? You?

  • @johnnyutah999
    @johnnyutah999 2 года назад +16

    Joe is in a different stratosphere to Jamie in terms of intelligence. Absolutely toyed with him here.

  • @jacklynch9611
    @jacklynch9611 Год назад

    Anywhere we can see the full interview?

  • @darrenmullan5169
    @darrenmullan5169 2 года назад +5

    Daddy is talking to his son.

  • @amadan9999
    @amadan9999 2 года назад +1

    Whar happened to the rest of the video. It ended too soon

  • @fishface20077002
    @fishface20077002 2 года назад +1

    I applaud the fact that this discussion took place but it didn't bring up the big issue of Sinn Fein potentially becoming the big dog on the hill, and how Loyalism / Unionism will react to this legal and fully democratic dilema. I fear beacause of the lack of strategy offered by Unionist leaders that the bad days of old could return to some degree.

  • @LeMerch
    @LeMerch 2 года назад +1

    More of this lads instead of the hatred on twitter.

  • @mfinlay4
    @mfinlay4 Год назад

    Is there a second part to this?

  • @user-ml3ko6rc2p
    @user-ml3ko6rc2p Год назад +1

    Joe,
    Will you stop talking at that man....
    You are lecturing him....

  • @bdeithrick
    @bdeithrick 5 месяцев назад +1

    Has he no WiFi up in mammys attic ? No ?

  • @aidanfries1540
    @aidanfries1540 Год назад +2

    This is a conversation between two people on totally different levels. Joe made countless great points, all talking about the future and moving away from the old orange and green way of viewing the world. He said many conciliatory and inclusive things, which someone of the same level of intelligence would have welcomed. And Jaime couldn't think of anything intelligent or forward-looking so came out "what about the protocol" again at the end (at 29:00). What a car crash. I think Jaime needs to wake up, stop living in the past!

  • @johnpaulmartinherron
    @johnpaulmartinherron 2 года назад +3

    Yes a great dscussion and good to see Jamie Bryson ejoying the conversation. He is constantly belittled and laughed at in Nationalist circles yet comes across here as very accommodating and reasonable. Joe is correct in that it is business and jobs that people care about because that is what generates prosperity for all. The NI protocol has simply opened up opportunities for NI businessses to work with the South and the rest of the EU in a way that British companies now can't. Because of this advantage there is zero chance of NI leaving the UK anytime soon, why give up that advantage? Similarily we can all identify (and have passports to prove it) as British or Irish or indeed both. Embrace the fact that NI consists of two nations and that the Tricolour is simply as legitimate as the Union Jack. Educate children in the same schools. These are the things that will kill off sectarianism in our society once and for all!

  • @pronsiasmacraghnaill2320
    @pronsiasmacraghnaill2320 2 года назад

    Where is the rest of the article ?

  • @ruairijoseph
    @ruairijoseph 2 года назад +30

    2 peoples and only one piece of land means one side has to lose… indigenous Irish have lost for 100 years… demographics dictate very soon it will be the turn of the Scots planters to lose and lose for good. To maintain the union will be like pushing water up-hill… we are in the end game for the NI state.

    • @derekmcgregor7459
      @derekmcgregor7459 2 года назад +12

      As a scot I say its about time Ireland was ireland again. We're not taking them back though. You can fucking keep them.

    • @ruairijoseph
      @ruairijoseph 2 года назад +2

      @@derekmcgregor7459 😂 haha I don’t blame you! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪

    • @georgousgeorge69
      @georgousgeorge69 2 года назад +1

      We were busy getting educated as you can see

    • @SuperEverton1974
      @SuperEverton1974 2 года назад +1

      @@derekmcgregor7459 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 2 года назад +1

      The only outcome is tolerance of each other, violence never worked and set back the reunification of Ireland by generations....I think we should learn from the past, like in Australia the aboriginal flag is flown beside the Aussie flag on government buildings and commemorations..same should happen in the north

  • @joegarrihy6881
    @joegarrihy6881 Год назад +1

    Joe cant listen , when someone is speaking , he is thinking of his next sentence . When Jamie was getting to the key of the current loyalist feeling that the logical conclusion of their participation in the peace process is the extermination of their cultural identity , joe blathered on about his current topic and missed the opportunity to address this .
    While undoubtedly a thinking man , he needs to listen better to others when they articulate the feelings in their communities.

  • @creasemason6347
    @creasemason6347 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting debate...
    Wonder why it was cut off?

  • @miseeire3391
    @miseeire3391 2 года назад +5

    It’s a shame Jamie’s internet connection was so bad. He didn’t get an opportunity to properly debate the points that Joe was making.

  • @derrydoire1864
    @derrydoire1864 2 года назад +5

    Bryson the man that makes the coffee for the guy that makes the tea when it comes to brains of debate

  • @bouse23
    @bouse23 Месяц назад

    Joe caught him badly at the end. When jamie was talking about the protoco....... l are you doing business with the UK