I never felt that Hugo wasn’t passionate about the role. He just is a professional. Actors always ask “what is my motivation?” If the director refuses to give any, what can the actor do?
I agree with what Bay was saying about actors complaining about jobs, but Weaving wasn't really complaining, he was kinda just saying he didn't get into the role. If anything he was just saying what Bay did wrong by not putting Weaving more into the role.
How could he expect to get into a role if he doesn't have even read the script? Part of franchise movies like transformers that been around longer than the movies should enough inspire the actor that chose to take the role and learn more about it; the directors job is just to tell the actor how or what to do; not seek motivation to bother working, hugo is just pompous and never appreciates popular roles that made him recognizable.
I always thought this whole thing was way overblown. Hugo Weaving really wasn't being insulting or mean about anything, the role just didn't mean much to him. Which I totally understand when you record stuff over Skype for like 2 hours and that's it. I can also understand Bay's side too. I don't really see either side as right or wrong, it just is what it is for better or worse. I love Hugo Weaving's Megatron, its my personal favorite voice for the character and he seems to have really done his best with it despite the circumstances. I just hate when fans complain about it, its always something like "he sucks, he didn't even care about it" or "he hated it" when that really isn't the case.
i dont think he truly felt like it was "Meaningless" to him anyway. I feel more like he said some things a certain way because of how he was treated by Michael Bay
@@Talon_Productionshe may not have been mistreated, yet he was still just was frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him to approach Hugo Weaving about the role or tell him about the characters and the franchise, but nooooooooo, Michael Bay alas just had to “be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those just quoted words here, and if you do, then at the least you would at agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
@@benjamintracey6685 I mean he was approached about the role, otherwise how would he accept the part to begin with, and there surely had to be some sort of breakdown of the story/characters even if it wasn't much. I think the "big shot" thing you mention isn't really an issue, or at least not as big of one as you think it is. An actor doing a voice part doesn't really have to do with Bay being a "bigshot".
@@Talon_Productions no he was not quite properly approached. He just recorded his lines under Bay’s direction by iChat yet was never told much about the character, the franchise or the other characters except for those he simply mentioned by name in his voice recordings. Otherwise he was never told about the role and by “had to be the big shot” as I put it about Bay, basically I am describing him as with a whole “I can do as I like and get away with it because as a director type filmmaker I am the boss around wherever I go and as such can with impunity do whatever I want” type of mentality which as I sought to put it, was always one of Bay’s least admirable qualities. And as a result of that he has not always got along with people.
I don’t really see this as Hugo Weaving being ungrateful, he’s very honest in that it’s almost like he wanted to be more a part of the actual project but Bay didn’t reach out to him properly so he couldn’t get a feel for the character outside of the lines he was given. Bay is definitely blowing it out of proportion as it’s clear Weaving has respect for the character and would have enjoyed the role had he been able to get more invested in it but from both his own commitments and the fact Bay never sent him a script for him to get invested in, then he couldn’t really get attached to it like his other roles.
I don't think Hugo Weaving was complaining his job was annoying or sth. He just thought it was meaningless and wierd. After all he never read the script or even see the Bay in flesh lol.
So strange to not have been given the script to read but it's not the first time I have heard this. During the WFC series on Netflix the process was the same, if not even more less connected.
not on Bays side, i think he really fucked with source material and wasn't nerdy enough to set the 100% solid directioning of the series. HOWEVER... if someone called your project meaningless and weird you'd be offended also. Especially when you pay them.
I remember Hugo Weaving saying something in Cybertronian from that BTS video, and then asking “But what does it mean???” Boy, the context of that question goes deeper than Megatron saying gibberish…
I didn't know Hugo Weaving voiced Megatron in English, that's interesting. But to be fair, I usually only watch the Brazilian Portuguese version of movies lol. I can totally understand feeling disconnected from his work in the Bayverse, though. Since Megatron was mostly very superficially handled in those movies, narratively speaking. As were pretty much all the other villains. And Bay didn't even interact with him that much during the production? I mean, I can totally get the feeling of indifference.
I would agree, I think Weaving likes to build a connection to his roles, not seeing the full script was a strange thing to me. Without it how do you get a feel for the movie which sets the tone for the character you are suppose to be voicing.
@@Delzord as I have mentioned before, Hugo Weaving was just frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even so told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him to approach Hugo Weaving properly so, but nooooooooo, Michael Bay alas yet “just so had to be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those most especially last four now just quoted words, and if you do, then at the least you would agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
@@guilhermevianabarbosa803you are right and as I mentioned before, Michael Bay’s whole wide “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
It's a little strange to watch 2022 video about some beef between director and actor that happened back in late 2000's / early 2010's. Also, I think's it's pretty obvious that Michael Bay can't handle characters, and don't really care about Transformers.
@@Delzord since you haven't brought it up in any video so far (that I'm aware of) Did know starscream attacks megatron in the first film? If you pay close attention to where he is in relation to the other jets during the final battle you'll notice he shoots megatron 3 times
Hugo Weaving was not complaining at all. He just was frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him, but nooooooooo, he just had to “be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those just quoted words, and if any of you reading this comment do know the meaning of such words, you would at least agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
Thing is, I don't think anyone was a jerk here. Weaving didn't feel fulfilled in the role so he dropped it. Bay is annoyed that he payed weaving good money and weaving is complaining. Both people are valid and who gives a shit this is between them
I agree with your initial comment but I don't really understand the end part about people shouldn't give a ****, you found it interesting enough to comment, I felt it was interesting enough to discuss and it seems many don't know about this history which led to Weaving not being involved in the franchise any further.
@@Delzord my point is that while it is interesting, it's between them and we shouldn't judge. That's also why my stance is neutral because it's not our business to take sides as it's their argument
@@stillpixel9233 Thats very fair, I was just in interested on peoples thoughts on the entire saga as it's another aspect in the history of the Live-Action Franchise isn't too well known.
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I think I might be with weaving on this one since I really liked his version of him but he never really got to be anything beyond "the bad guy". There was some slivers of depth in him in 2 but by the time we started to get real character, we were back to Welker (who i also like) but still. I feel where he's coming from and I don't really think it was complaining so much as wanting to be more.
villians in bay movies were pretty bland imo there wasnt any need for more involvement for those movies. i would love to watch a transformers movie with deeper villians
Any tf media is better than Bayverse in terms of deeper villains like Unicron, that's actually the only Tf villain in mainstream, but if you want the deepest, then IDW probably have the best, but I've never read.
these comments are really seeming like people are upset with weaving not over anything he said, but just the fact that he’s a 60 year old man who isn’t passionate about a toy brand
I don’t think either are in the wrong. Hugo was just being honest and explaining his experience with the role of Megatron and Michael Bay did slightly take it out of proportion, but Michael Bay definitely had a point about voice actors in general, not about Hugo. Both shared their thoughts about it, Hugo explained his experience and Michael Bay shared his perspective and opinion on it as well as voice actors in general. I also think it’s great that Michael Bay didn’t point fingers or name drop in his response. I think both just said what they needed to say
considering he wasnt even that into it and did the 2nd best megatron portrayal( id argue better than some of frank welkers apart from transformers prime and because its the classic, g1 megatron) id say that was impressive
@@Delzord honest if I was in a transformers film I wouldn't care which kind of character I was doing even if I was just a random person running away that you could barely see
Bay was not prefect I can't defend him, I grew up at the age I was not watching rated r movies like the matrix. I heard hugo as megatron along with frank on game. But bay did introduce me to the 4 legacy character then animated expanded, 2009 brought more not best introduction to twins and wheelie and more. Weaving may not have met bay but would it be one day meet but in easy ground perhaps a reunion Christmas party for the anniversary
@@thataliencon optimus is only more violent here because his circumstances have changed, he does what has to be done to protect the autobots and humanity. Plus the only reason theres more humans in the show because it takes a more realistic and deeper approach to how humans would react to alien robots. It doesn't just ignore them and pretend everything is fine
And hugo just called bay out and hes acting like a 2 year old toddler because hugo was right. All bay did was explosion and hot woman and just didn't respect the scource material of transformers brand, i am genuinely suprise bay made 5 movies and after the stunt rotf pulled with stuff like the arcee sisters and the twins i expected hasbro would cut ties with bay after that Hugo is very right, after all its not just action but the voice actor need to know more on what their character does, the character lore or pre existing lore and personality. With out it the characters feel bland and just there half of the time. But hugo did shockingly well as megatron
How was hugo right? He got paid millions for sitting on his ass and doing nothing. He should be grateful. You can say whatever about the movies but its super weird that he’s complaining about it nothing being artistic enough. Its so tone deaf and makes him look like a elite class idiot
@@keldeostudies149 he works and puts alot more effort. He uses practical effect instead of just bland cgi like modern marvel movies. Like theres real stunts, real cars exploding. basically everything you see besides the actual transformers are all practical effect. even frozen megatron was real. its makes the movies look more amazing and realistic and shows Bay's dedication to filmmaking. Honestly the effort behind the movies is really cool to see. He got really military people to play some military roles. He even made some of the military actors go through 3 days of military lifestyle, and asked the military to help train his actors.
@@AquosFrost again i agree with you but not completely. Yes it all looks cool but people will also need to focus on the plot and characters. 2007 was a ok movie but when rotf and the rest of the bay films started it took a nose dive in terms of plot and characters because bay didn't respect the scource material. I respect people who like the bay films
I'm starting to notice a pattern with Hugo. He does a role but then comes out and says he hated the role. This is a trend with him. I just think he hates his job and only wants the paycheck
I never felt that Hugo wasn’t passionate about the role.
He just is a professional. Actors always ask “what is my motivation?” If the director refuses to give any, what can the actor do?
I agree with what Bay was saying about actors complaining about jobs, but Weaving wasn't really complaining, he was kinda just saying he didn't get into the role. If anything he was just saying what Bay did wrong by not putting Weaving more into the role.
How could he expect to get into a role if he doesn't have even read the script?
Part of franchise movies like transformers that been around longer than the movies should enough inspire the actor that chose to take the role and learn more about it; the directors job is just to tell the actor how or what to do; not seek motivation to bother working, hugo is just pompous and never appreciates popular roles that made him recognizable.
I always thought this whole thing was way overblown. Hugo Weaving really wasn't being insulting or mean about anything, the role just didn't mean much to him. Which I totally understand when you record stuff over Skype for like 2 hours and that's it. I can also understand Bay's side too. I don't really see either side as right or wrong, it just is what it is for better or worse. I love Hugo Weaving's Megatron, its my personal favorite voice for the character and he seems to have really done his best with it despite the circumstances. I just hate when fans complain about it, its always something like "he sucks, he didn't even care about it" or "he hated it" when that really isn't the case.
i dont think he truly felt like it was "Meaningless" to him anyway. I feel more like he said some things a certain way because of how he was treated by Michael Bay
@@AnonymousAnonymous-re7fy I don't know about that, he wasn't treated badly by Bay or anything.
@@Talon_Productionshe may not have been mistreated, yet he was still just was frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him to approach Hugo Weaving about the role or tell him about the characters and the franchise, but nooooooooo, Michael Bay alas just had to “be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those just quoted words here, and if you do, then at the least you would at agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
@@benjamintracey6685 I mean he was approached about the role, otherwise how would he accept the part to begin with, and there surely had to be some sort of breakdown of the story/characters even if it wasn't much. I think the "big shot" thing you mention isn't really an issue, or at least not as big of one as you think it is. An actor doing a voice part doesn't really have to do with Bay being a "bigshot".
@@Talon_Productions no he was not quite properly approached. He just recorded his lines under Bay’s direction by iChat yet was never told much about the character, the franchise or the other characters except for those he simply mentioned by name in his voice recordings. Otherwise he was never told about the role and by “had to be the big shot” as I put it about Bay, basically I am describing him as with a whole “I can do as I like and get away with it because as a director type filmmaker I am the boss around wherever I go and as such can with impunity do whatever I want” type of mentality which as I sought to put it, was always one of Bay’s least admirable qualities. And as a result of that he has not always got along with people.
I don’t really see this as Hugo Weaving being ungrateful, he’s very honest in that it’s almost like he wanted to be more a part of the actual project but Bay didn’t reach out to him properly so he couldn’t get a feel for the character outside of the lines he was given. Bay is definitely blowing it out of proportion as it’s clear Weaving has respect for the character and would have enjoyed the role had he been able to get more invested in it but from both his own commitments and the fact Bay never sent him a script for him to get invested in, then he couldn’t really get attached to it like his other roles.
I don't think Hugo Weaving was complaining his job was annoying or sth. He just thought it was meaningless and wierd. After all he never read the script or even see the Bay in flesh lol.
So strange to not have been given the script to read but it's not the first time I have heard this. During the WFC series on Netflix the process was the same, if not even more less connected.
not on Bays side, i think he really fucked with source material and wasn't nerdy enough to set the 100% solid directioning of the series. HOWEVER... if someone called your project meaningless and weird you'd be offended also. Especially when you pay them.
I remember Hugo Weaving saying something in Cybertronian from that BTS video, and then asking “But what does it mean???” Boy, the context of that question goes deeper than Megatron saying gibberish…
I didn't know Hugo Weaving voiced Megatron in English, that's interesting. But to be fair, I usually only watch the Brazilian Portuguese version of movies lol. I can totally understand feeling disconnected from his work in the Bayverse, though. Since Megatron was mostly very superficially handled in those movies, narratively speaking. As were pretty much all the other villains. And Bay didn't even interact with him that much during the production? I mean, I can totally get the feeling of indifference.
I would agree, I think Weaving likes to build a connection to his roles, not seeing the full script was a strange thing to me. Without it how do you get a feel for the movie which sets the tone for the character you are suppose to be voicing.
@@Delzord It truly is strange that he didn't even have access to the full script to do his voice work lol.
@@Delzord as I have mentioned before, Hugo Weaving was just frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even so told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him to approach Hugo Weaving properly so, but nooooooooo, Michael Bay alas yet “just so had to be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those most especially last four now just quoted words, and if you do, then at the least you would agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
@@guilhermevianabarbosa803you are right and as I mentioned before, Michael Bay’s whole wide “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
It's a little strange to watch 2022 video about some beef between director and actor that happened back in late 2000's / early 2010's.
Also, I think's it's pretty obvious that Michael Bay can't handle characters, and don't really care about Transformers.
to some extent he cares
It's part of a series on my channel, discussing the history of things that arn't so well known in the Live-Action Franchise.
@@Delzord since you haven't brought it up in any video so far (that I'm aware of)
Did know starscream attacks megatron in the first film? If you pay close attention to where he is in relation to the other jets during the final battle you'll notice he shoots megatron 3 times
Despite the issues he had behind the scenes with the role and Michael Bay, Hugo Weaving gave a great performance as Megatron
This would never be an issue if Bay had decided to cast Frank Weller in right from the beginning.
Straight up. He's as iconic of a VA in the TF Franchise as Cullen was.
Hugo Weaving was not complaining at all. He just was frustrated about not being properly approached about the role or even told about the franchise. Certainly one would think Michael Bay would find that not too much to ask of him, but nooooooooo, he just had to “be the big shot” if you know what I mean by those just quoted words, and if any of you reading this comment do know the meaning of such words, you would at least agree that whilst we do have Bay to partly thank for the likes of “The Transformers Film Franchise” even happening in part as we know it, still nonetheless, Bay’s whole “had to be the big shot” mentality basically was always one of his least admirable qualities.
Thing is, I don't think anyone was a jerk here. Weaving didn't feel fulfilled in the role so he dropped it. Bay is annoyed that he payed weaving good money and weaving is complaining. Both people are valid and who gives a shit this is between them
I agree with your initial comment but I don't really understand the end part about people shouldn't give a ****, you found it interesting enough to comment, I felt it was interesting enough to discuss and it seems many don't know about this history which led to Weaving not being involved in the franchise any further.
@@Delzord my point is that while it is interesting, it's between them and we shouldn't judge. That's also why my stance is neutral because it's not our business to take sides as it's their argument
@@stillpixel9233 Thats very fair, I was just in interested on peoples thoughts on the entire saga as it's another aspect in the history of the Live-Action Franchise isn't too well known.
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He should have been Agent Smith
I think Megatron was handled a bit too generically in the first three. By the time he got depth, weaving was already out
He did an ok job honestly. Everything he said kinda makes sense. I wonder if he watched the movie and his thoughts on it
Michael Based
I think I might be with weaving on this one since I really liked his version of him but he never really got to be anything beyond "the bad guy". There was some slivers of depth in him in 2 but by the time we started to get real character, we were back to Welker (who i also like) but still. I feel where he's coming from and I don't really think it was complaining so much as wanting to be more.
To me this just sounds like Weaving just simply wanted to get more into the character and story, but was given the bare minimum
Great, talented actor.
My take on it is that Hugo's attitude toward the voice suited the Megatron character perfectly. His 2 hours of meaningless time was well spent.
villians in bay movies were pretty bland imo there wasnt any need for more involvement for those movies. i would love to watch a transformers movie with deeper villians
We all feel like that
Any tf media is better than Bayverse in terms of deeper villains like Unicron, that's actually the only Tf villain in mainstream, but if you want the deepest, then IDW probably have the best, but I've never read.
sentinel and lockdown were deep villains
@@novustalks7525 they really were
@@legendarystudioclips6018 yeah
i really liked his megatron voice , like i can’t choose between him and welker
these comments are really seeming like people are upset with weaving not over anything he said, but just the fact that he’s a 60 year old man who isn’t passionate about a toy brand
so true. so much autism everywhere
I don’t think either are in the wrong. Hugo was just being honest and explaining his experience with the role of Megatron and Michael Bay did slightly take it out of proportion, but Michael Bay definitely had a point about voice actors in general, not about Hugo. Both shared their thoughts about it, Hugo explained his experience and Michael Bay shared his perspective and opinion on it as well as voice actors in general. I also think it’s great that Michael Bay didn’t point fingers or name drop in his response. I think both just said what they needed to say
considering he wasnt even that into it and did the 2nd best megatron portrayal( id argue better than some of frank welkers apart from transformers prime and because its the classic, g1 megatron) id say that was impressive
They Should've brought in Arnold Vosloo
He should have been happy, if I was in even one transformers film I would enjoy every moment of it
Who would you voice, which Autobot or Decepticon?
@@Delzord honest if I was in a transformers film I wouldn't care which kind of character I was doing even if I was just a random person running away that you could barely see
Except he knows nothing about Transformers at all, so why would he care?
Bay is right
Im with bay on this one. Hugo got a lot of money and should be grateful
Bay was not prefect I can't defend him, I grew up at the age I was not watching rated r movies like the matrix. I heard hugo as megatron along with frank on game. But bay did introduce me to the 4 legacy character then animated expanded, 2009 brought more not best introduction to twins and wheelie and more. Weaving may not have met bay but would it be one day meet but in easy ground perhaps a reunion Christmas party for the anniversary
It's sad what Michael Bay did to our beloved characters, the movies could have been good.
i liked the movies
@@AquosFrost There were some good parts for me too, but I don't like how Bay made Optimus a ruthless killer and humans had 70% of the screentime.
@@thataliencon optimus is only more violent here because his circumstances have changed, he does what has to be done to protect the autobots and humanity. Plus the only reason theres more humans in the show because it takes a more realistic and deeper approach to how humans would react to alien robots. It doesn't just ignore them and pretend everything is fine
@@AquosFrost Ok, that is your opinion.
he gave us 4 great movies
And hugo just called bay out and hes acting like a 2 year old toddler because hugo was right. All bay did was explosion and hot woman and just didn't respect the scource material of transformers brand, i am genuinely suprise bay made 5 movies and after the stunt rotf pulled with stuff like the arcee sisters and the twins i expected hasbro would cut ties with bay after that
Hugo is very right, after all its not just action but the voice actor need to know more on what their character does, the character lore or pre existing lore and personality. With out it the characters feel bland and just there half of the time. But hugo did shockingly well as megatron
How was hugo right? He got paid millions for sitting on his ass and doing nothing. He should be grateful. You can say whatever about the movies but its super weird that he’s complaining about it nothing being artistic enough. Its so tone deaf and makes him look like a elite class idiot
i liked bay's movies. hes a very good director when it comes to making nice action scenes with transformers
@@AquosFrost i can agree with you there but not completely
@@keldeostudies149 he works and puts alot more effort. He uses practical effect instead of just bland cgi like modern marvel movies. Like theres real stunts, real cars exploding. basically everything you see besides the actual transformers are all practical effect. even frozen megatron was real. its makes the movies look more amazing and realistic and shows Bay's dedication to filmmaking. Honestly the effort behind the movies is really cool to see. He got really military people to play some military roles. He even made some of the military actors go through 3 days of military lifestyle, and asked the military to help train his actors.
@@AquosFrost again i agree with you but not completely. Yes it all looks cool but people will also need to focus on the plot and characters. 2007 was a ok movie but when rotf and the rest of the bay films started it took a nose dive in terms of plot and characters because bay didn't respect the scource material. I respect people who like the bay films
What?
I'm starting to notice a pattern with Hugo. He does a role but then comes out and says he hated the role. This is a trend with him. I just think he hates his job and only wants the paycheck
I definitely agree with bay mostly.
Bay’s right
Hugo had no reason to complain. if he didn't like it why did he do it 3 times?
Money
Contracts
Hugo a weirdo for saying that