Yeah, he tried to ruffle her feathers with that comment and technically speaking she was cast out. The fact that the Jedi order invited her back did nothing to ameliorate the situation.
It’s funny that on the security screen you can see Tambor in a cell because he was captured on Ryloth by the Republic... and later he tried to claim corporate neutrality on Skako Minor
(Edit). When I say the Jedi, I refer to the Jedi order, it's rules and those in charge, not every single rank and file member. I have no doubt there were Jedi that were evil, and I don't take back what I said about the Jedi being a cult and that I have significant disagreements with their recruiting practices (raising children away from their parents and all that), but it should have in my original post been a bit more clear on that. Ah yes, the Jedi. Not only are their recruitment policies unethical in my view but their approach to criminal prosecutions of their own members is laughable. They have no proof Ashoka did it, the recordings that would prove her innocence disappeared, there was also apparently no camera proof that Ashoka wasn't outside her cell when the clones were killed... And yet they still exile her. This is why I hate the Jedi. And they also forget that due process and the like exists. This is why I think the Jedi are an evil organisation and cult. I'd also like to point out Padme is not a lawyer, she's a senator. There was also no beyond a reasonable doubt. It's also laughable that council thinks that an apology and promotion is worth complete abandonment and an almost execution. It's also another example of how the Jedi's backwards ways unknowingly led to their downfall (along with their whole no attachments policy which is in my mind highly inhumane - literally getting your people to suppress their emotions and desires). Anyway, why the Jedi are evil rant over. Bye.
As soon as Windu tried to put that spin on it, I could practically hear "Now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, NOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UP!"
Jedi Order: Anakie and Ahsoka, come home and look in to this case, you were off planet so we knows it can't be you. Tarkin and the Jedi Council: really now?
Seems really stupid, doesn't it. I mean, she was literally recalled to investigate because there is no chance she could have done it. Two days later, yeah i'm sorry, you're going to jail with no evidence whatsoever.
@@TheAusar Yes and Padme could have said that many things... hell Anakin could have yelled it at the council. But the story needed Ahsoka away from Anakin so that she didn't have to die before the time of the movie. In that way it is done it feel like the council forced the blame on Ahsoka as someone needed to punished.
@@badgamemaster They never thought she was the one who physically planted the bomb, it was already clear that other guy suicide bombed the temple. The council just thought she was involved because she seemed to be trying to escape, killing clones, and apparently in possession of more bombs.
Also, very accurate given the next event is Fives death. So pretty much the final Year of the Clone Wars was when Palpatine finalized his plans, Ahsoka leaving, Fives death and covering up Order 66, taking over the banks, killing Silmon and covering the trail of the creation of the Clone Army, the death of Mother Talzin, the destruction of Mau's Shadow Collective, the death of Ventress, and the take over of Mandalore, all dominos that had to fall to lead to the downfall of the Jedi and Republic and Palpatine's complete rise to power.
Were you motivated to have Onderon leave the Republic right after the trial of the Jedi who freed your people, Lux? Because this debacle likely reminded you of the reasons why your mother Mina joined the Confederacy.
The same reason Dooku left they saw through the hypocrisy of the Jedi counsel and that they were nothing more then tools of a corrupt republic. Serving senator that wanted to win the next term instead of the people maybe not that much because unlike Dooku she wasn’t into politics but she saw some of the flaws
While this was great for accelerating Anakin’s distrust in the Jedi Order, it had the unfortunate side effect of creating a divide between Anakin and Tarkin that lasted years after Anakin became Darth Vader.
Vid idea: What was the power of the senate during the Galatic civil war?(not Palps but the actual senate). Why didnt the Empire just take over? How important it was to the Rebels? It was mentioned many times in Rogue one and A new hope so I think it plays more important role than it seems
On the contrary. She was also a target of Order 66, and her leaving the Order was another reason why Anakin fell to the Dark Side. Because what manner of Jedi Order throw their own under the bus to save face?
Ahsoka had to leave the order because Anakin A: Wasn't a Master in Episode 3 (kind of a sticking in the movie too, meaning that she didn't graduate to knighthood yet) B: Anakin didn't have a padawan during Episode 3. C: it's better than killing her off and really pissing off two generations of fans.
I hat barris. She had no reason whatsoever to frame ahsoka, her former best friend. Although I still dont agree with it, she still could have framed anyone else.
@@okita_souji_alter Yes, they did lose their way, the Jedi Order was completly failing in the last years of its existence. This Arc showed us how blind the Jedi have become.
She had already fallen to the dark side. That's what it does, it consumes you until frienships and loyalty only becomes tools to rise in power. I don't believe in the sincerity of her speech in the trial. It sounds like the classic "narcissits prayer": look at what _you made me_ do.
All of this was orchestrated to further isolate Anakin and drive a wedge between him and the Jedi order so it would be easier to convince him to betray them later. She could have framed anyone she wanted to, but specifically chose Ashoka.
I don't think that she wanted to frame Ahsoka in particular. Rather, she would have another Jedi to take the fall, but circumstances avoided favorable outcomes.
Kind of doubt that. Fox was loyal to Palpatine and the last thing Palpatine would have wanted is to technically have Ahsokas blood on his hands. He wanted it to be the Jedis fault, to further manipulate Anakin.
I just love how the council had the audacity to prolcaim it was a test of the force when they were the ones that didnt even trust her. Had the proceedings actually gone through with her trail its very likely Ahsoka would have been killed because of their incompetence.
I ain't gonna front Tech.. that was some bullshit for Windu to do after the fact. I can dig it on that note.. word. . & in that moment Palpatine def was the manipulative master mind. . he was able to further divide the Jedi, cause major confusion on how the whole shit went down to start with & cause Ani to lose Asoka not just as a student but as a little sister in the order. . using an up & coming hungry Tarkin in the tribunal was excellent strategy as well. his emotional detachment from Jedi values helped him even more in his cold & objective examinations of Asoka & the Jedi & the bombing. Palpi def recognized that & used Tarkin in his later operations as we know about. . feel? Asoka was disillusioned to the Jedi after that. . Yoda & Windu & them was now reduced to corney oldheads or failed mentors & teachers in her eyes.. for a secret or covert strike from Sidious to further weaken the Jedi b4 Order 66, brilliance on his part... not bigging him up. not giving palpi no extra props. just recognizing strategy & how things can work in guerilla & psychological warfare (the fiction still reflecting real life strategies). Sidious was on Ani's shoulder all the time.. he truly took advantage of a dying order from the old republic & build his empire literally on the backs of the fallen Jedi.. had the Jedi been more versed as opposed to self consumed, the situation def would've turned out different. but that was also the point for Sidious. to manipulate & use their blindness to different things against them.. they didn't see Bariss or whoever becoming a fake fanatic & bombing the temple because of the hidden discourse going on in the order. . all of that confusion & emotional turmoil among the Jedi generally is what Sidious fed off of from the cut & eventually built his industrial galactic empire off of the backs of a once highly great Masterhood order of the Force.. . It's interesting how art imitates real life, on many different levels.. uumm. interesting indeed.. lol..
@@isaacgame88429 uuummm.. next thing we gotta get you in those comprehension classes.. that's gonna do wonders for you kiddo.. next thing you'll actually understand what was said here.. this is a little different from the video game descriptions or maybe those playboy mags you used to reading.. but oh yeah.. good job indeed little guy. looks like you can stay up that extra half hr now. . . lol...
you know if this happend to me I would 100% be on the verge of turning to the dark side and could you blame me for turning to the dark side if the Jedi council thought I was responsible for a crime I didn' t do
I find it as a plot hole that Ahsoka is framed even though she was away in a war. She was next to Anakin and everyone knows Anakin always has an eye on her.
2:35 oh shiz i never noticed baress there before...neat also now that i think about it....the Jedi council seriously forgot that she wasnt on corasaunt for the bombing, hell she'd probably had little time to even set it up in the first place.
If she never left the Jedi Order cuz she had become a Jedi Knight and Anakin a Jedi master and maybe possibly in a future she might become a Jedi master
What I hate most about how Ashoka left the order is that the Jedi masters on the council would treat her like she was garbage after all she had done for them. And it also ties in to how Anakin turned to the dark side.
What makes me angry about ahsoka being framed is that she wasn't even on the planet when the bombing happened and yet still the jedi thought she was the one who organized the bombing and they didn't believe her. Plus doing something like that is not in her character and those who were close to her knew she was loyal to the jedi order and didn't really do anything to clear her name with the exception of Anakin. Obi wan didn't really do anything about it except say he didn't think ahsoka did the crime. And Plo Koon don't get me started on him he was the one who found ahsoka and brought her to the temple and HE DIDN'T believe her either. At least he actually apologized I'll give him that. Barris framing ahsoka doesn't make me as angry as the jedi not believing ahsoka but I still didn't like how she framed her.
Because Ahoska was disillusioned by the Jedi Order after being framed for murder. They turned against her and friend(Bariss) set her up as a terrorist for bombing the Jedi Temple.
This part of the clone wars was sad man. But not as sad as the ending of season 7. That hit harder than the whole clone wars combined. Those last 2 episodes were so tense because order 66 was in affect and silent moments made Ashoka's scenes more tense because we all knew that order 66 was in affect.
Allan wearing the tank top for the past few videos is so hot...or is it just me? Also, the thing I don't get is that Ahsoka and Anakin were off planet when the bombing happened and have been for a while, so I don't get how they still managed to fck their investigation up and blame Ahsoka And how did Lunamaria react to her padawan being the bomber?
This just proves that as an individual, Ahsoka was way more level headed and mature than Anakin ever was with the way she handled sensitive and painful moments in her life such as this.
I always thought that it was Palpatine who provided the nanodroids since the whole affair would not only damage the Jedi but ideally the Jedi would let Ahsoka be executed which would push Anakin from them.
Here is a question that it would be cool to see a video on. A compare and contrast to how the Jedi officers of the GAR were treated and viewed compared to the Jedi that served in the Rebel Alliance. This arc, and the Clone Wars as a whole, really show that just giving the Jedi control of the clone army was really not a good idea. While many Jedi had good intentions and tried to do right by their clone soldier and the citizens they were trying to protect they clearly were being dumped into the deep end of the pool. Being put in charge of such a large force with no real training in military doctrine or theory not only resulted in costly mistakes and loses but also led to resentment and undermining of the Jedi. The Jedi that we see work with or for the Rebels seem to do much better. There is no real resentment with almost all happy to have them join in the fight. These Jedi are also not made into generals right off the bat but have to work their way up the ranks which seems to really help. Just a topic I thought would be interesting to look into.
I(personally) wouldn't say the Jedi were corrupt, rather the became complacent. Then during the war, they had no clue what to do. The Republic government and people looked towards the Jedi for guidance as they always had. The Jedi couldn't loose face and the faith of the people, acted as if they had everything under control. They knew they shouldn't be involved, but, well pride. Turning to the Force for answers, finding nothing. They now began to understand that they were not as one with the Force as they thought. First pride and now panic. They began faking it, but still following the Senate's(Palpatine) lead. They NEVER should have turned Ahsoka over to anyone. They only did so because, they didn't want to risk someone to discover that fact that the Jedi was broken. It wasn't just Ahsoka and Anakin that knew something was wrong with the Jedi. Obviously during the war, many Jedi became disillusioned with the council. Years before the events of The Phantom Menace, more than a few Jedi had been speaking out, saying something was wrong with the order. The council was so convinced that since the ways of the Jedi had been working so far, that it was proof everything is as it should be. Wonder why Qui-gon didn't sit on the council? They wouldn't let him join because he had been pushing for a change in many policies. (Including the ban on attachments.) Also when I watched CW on Netflix, they had a new season. Netflix called it season 7, Disney called it The Lost Missions. Yoda(most likely to listen now) got a visit from a force ghost(I wonder who that was?) Telling to go on a trip(non spoiler summery) where he would receive the answers to what was really going on. He then asked, the very clever and most adept at deflecting the truth, Anakin, to cover for him with the council. Ana offered to go with Yoda to protect him, but Yoda refused. The very stubborn(and as of yet very loyal)Anakin convinced Yoda to take R2D2 with him. Yoda discovers that yes indeed the Jedi lost their way, and should have listened to those Jedi who could see it. P.S. The events of ESB was not because Yoda didn't know R2. It was just two old class clowns reuniting.
Okay I know this opinion it's going to be the less popular opinion, but I do hope ahsoka becomes a Jedi again, have a (I'm a Jedi like my father before me) moment.
Both. Clones for mid-level command positions. Droids as grunts. The clones have initiative and creativity the droids lack. The droids have superior durability and numbers. Now in a 1v1 situation without the limiting manipulation of Palpatine? Droids. Sheer numbers would easily overcome the quality advantage of the clones. 1.2 million clones shortly after the war starts? Against tens or hundreds of millions of droids? Is that a joke? There is no way the Republic should have won ANY battles let alone held the line. Jedi or no Jedi. There comes a point where quantity has a quality all it's own and this would have been one such case.
As bad as it was for Ahsoka, one could see it as a way of the force pushing her away from the Jedi and being her own person. It wasn't a trial, it was the force telling Ahsoka to forge her own path away from the Jedi order, in its own twisted way.
"And keep [the Jedi] in check" Actually the Jedi were in checkMATE the moment the Clone Wars began. You pointed this out in your video about what would've happened had the Jedi stayed out of it. Also if we include "the will of the Force" as a legitimate cause for effects then they were in checkmate the moment the Force Wars began.
I have little to no interest in the Clone Wars series(outside of Tartovosky's short version), but this was a good story that you explained well. Good job.
@@thadmeboy1129 I couldn't get into it. The art style put me off, and the story didn't really hook me. To each their own. I enjoy The Old Republic MMO though.
Didn’t Barris’ speech prompt the Grand Inqusitor to turn on and kill his fellow Temple Guardsmen?...that sorta affected the Jedi defense of the Temple 😬
How in the world did everyone just forget Ahsoka wasn't even on the planet when the bombing took place. The Jedi threw her way to make themselves look better, then tried to gaslight her about why they did it after she was proven innocent. Shame on the Jedi Council for throwing her under the bus. They deserved to have her scorn them and walk away.
I still don't understand why she left. "Because the jedi didn't trust her"? Hell, there were plenty of evidence she was responsible for the bombing. What could have the Jedi done about it? If they protected Ahsoka, believing she could not be behind the attack, the public would be mad on the Jedi; by the way, it's exactly what Palpatine wants. Also I think you don't have to on Coruscant to stage an attack, given that the bomb was planted by different people.
Everybody failed Ahsoka. Instead of investigating, Anakin spent a long time hunting her down; the Clones participated (Rex was the only one to say she was innocent, but he did chase her), Wolffe stunned her even though she had save his life in season 1 (no, I'm not buying the "they're following orders" line), the Council railroaded her without an investigation, Anakin doesn't give her a real lawyer but instead give her Padme, and then the Council was super arrogant in their offer to take her back. I really wish Ahsoka had given the Council a piece of her mind and noted their arrogance and how no Jedi or Padawan was safe under their leadership. I don't know if Lucasfilm realized that with this arc, they were taking two heros (Yoda and Obi Wan) and making them into villains. I think it was unintentional, but I personally don't like either character anymore.
Before I start watching this video, I would to say that the directors would have to find a way for her to leave the Jedi Order, or otherwise, they would have to come up with and explanation to why she wasn't in episode 3. Or George Lucas would have to refilm episode 3.
What ever happened to the arc where Obi-Wan had to pretend to be a criminal and fake his death. Dooku was trying to kidnap the Chancellor, doesn’t that count as event during the war, and Ashoka was there during the time. I feel like he missed it
Ahsoka left because she saw not only the flaws of the Jedi Order but its corruption and evils through the actions of Barris offe and the council's actions.
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In the words of Grandmaster Yoda:
"Fucked up, the Jedi Council did."
He was stoned most of the time. Ketamine.
Master Windu: Hey, I was going to say that, mother...
Tarkin: "It's treason then"
Palpatine: "Nice line, gonna use that sometime"
Pong Krell said it first
@@Robopup325 Oh really? Thank you for correcting me
Maul: Were you not casted out of the Jedi Order?
Ahsoka: I left, voluntarily.
Yeah, he tried to ruffle her feathers with that comment and technically speaking she was cast out. The fact that the Jedi order invited her back did nothing to ameliorate the situation.
yes but you were motivated to leave by the hypocrisy of the jedi council
Lol.
Ahsoka is so relatable to us teens. I grew up with her and I was so heart broken when HER heart was broken😭
Anakin: I've thought about leaving the Jedi order plenty of times.
*Ahsoka leaves*
He wanted to, but Padme or others persuaded him to stay. In the end, he felt like he had a duty to stay until the war was over.
I ship Anakin with his padwan
@Awesome Matt you WHAT?
@@gabrielho1874 Anakin has better chemistry with Ashoka than Padma, watch the prequal trilology
It’s funny that on the security screen you can see Tambor in a cell because he was captured on Ryloth by the Republic... and later he tried to claim corporate neutrality on Skako Minor
He probably *A)* Escaped the prison or *B)* Had his allies/employees bribe the government officials in the prison to let him out
You can also see pogle the lesser and General Lothsome (from the Clone wars movie) in their cells
Because the Jedi were corrupted and Ahsoka was ahead of her time.
sounds a lot like real life :')
owh wait...
Because the Jedi were douchebags? Its a shame her Master wasn't able to walk away too.
I wouldn't say they were corrupt, more like to conservative, which often seems like it is an issue with groups like the jedi
No they were just stubborn and mace is the dumbest Jedi ever
(Edit). When I say the Jedi, I refer to the Jedi order, it's rules and those in charge, not every single rank and file member. I have no doubt there were Jedi that were evil, and I don't take back what I said about the Jedi being a cult and that I have significant disagreements with their recruiting practices (raising children away from their parents and all that), but it should have in my original post been a bit more clear on that.
Ah yes, the Jedi. Not only are their recruitment policies unethical in my view but their approach to criminal prosecutions of their own members is laughable. They have no proof Ashoka did it, the recordings that would prove her innocence disappeared, there was also apparently no camera proof that Ashoka wasn't outside her cell when the clones were killed... And yet they still exile her. This is why I hate the Jedi. And they also forget that due process and the like exists. This is why I think the Jedi are an evil organisation and cult. I'd also like to point out Padme is not a lawyer, she's a senator. There was also no beyond a reasonable doubt. It's also laughable that council thinks that an apology and promotion is worth complete abandonment and an almost execution. It's also another example of how the Jedi's backwards ways unknowingly led to their downfall (along with their whole no attachments policy which is in my mind highly inhumane - literally getting your people to suppress their emotions and desires). Anyway, why the Jedi are evil rant over. Bye.
The Jedi tried to make it a test for becoming a Jedi, rather than properly apologizing.
Like Palpatine said, the Jedi were blinded by arrogance.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 Ezechiel!
@@fabioartoscassone9305 Hmm?
Not the Jedi mace windu
As soon as Windu tried to put that spin on it, I could practically hear "Now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, now ya fucked up, NOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UP!"
That investigation droid: He wasn't just near the bomb, *flips shades down* he was the bomb
“Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!”
Jedi Order: Anakie and Ahsoka, come home and look in to this case, you were off planet so we knows it can't be you.
Tarkin and the Jedi Council: really now?
Seems really stupid, doesn't it. I mean, she was literally recalled to investigate because there is no chance she could have done it. Two days later, yeah i'm sorry, you're going to jail with no evidence whatsoever.
@@TheAusar Yes and Padme could have said that many things... hell Anakin could have yelled it at the council. But the story needed Ahsoka away from Anakin so that she didn't have to die before the time of the movie. In that way it is done it feel like the council forced the blame on Ahsoka as someone needed to punished.
@@badgamemaster They never thought she was the one who physically planted the bomb, it was already clear that other guy suicide bombed the temple. The council just thought she was involved because she seemed to be trying to escape, killing clones, and apparently in possession of more bombs.
Because her bestfriend, Bariss Offee broke her trust and the Jedi couldn't even see her as innocent.
Y u commenting so much
r/fuckbarissoffee
they threw her under the bus
@@theawesomeman9821 Also, Asajj Ventress was back-stabbed by her own damn order!
"Another domino falls"
*Flashbacks to the fall of Domino Squad*
Also, very accurate given the next event is Fives death. So pretty much the final Year of the Clone Wars was when Palpatine finalized his plans, Ahsoka leaving, Fives death and covering up Order 66, taking over the banks, killing Silmon and covering the trail of the creation of the Clone Army, the death of Mother Talzin, the destruction of Mau's Shadow Collective, the death of Ventress, and the take over of Mandalore, all dominos that had to fall to lead to the downfall of the Jedi and Republic and Palpatine's complete rise to power.
bro i literally saw this comment just as he said that what the fuck
Last time I was this early Ahsoka was still in the Jedi Order.
For everything Tarkin did his death was far too painless
Were you motivated to have Onderon leave the Republic right after the trial of the Jedi who freed your people, Lux? Because this debacle likely reminded you of the reasons why your mother Mina joined the Confederacy.
Fuck tarkin
Tarkin was a fucking ass, even as a republic officer.
Ahsoka ran for her life. Who could blame her for being framed?
And by her own friend no less
What?
She made the mistake of taking the bait, which caused her to look worse
Tarkin
I would’ve done the same thing
The same reason Dooku left they saw through the hypocrisy of the Jedi counsel and that they were nothing more then tools of a corrupt republic. Serving senator that wanted to win the next term instead of the people maybe not that much because unlike Dooku she wasn’t into politics but she saw some of the flaws
And unfortunately played right into the hands of Darth Sidious each time, like puppets on a string.
I'm shocked Qui Gon was not expelled or defected from the order. Seeing how he was Dooku's Padawan.
Watching this Arc made me understand why Qui-Gon Jinn didn't want to join the Jedi Council and why Dooku left as well.
Yeah, they were really drowning in arrogance and hypocrisy.
Dawg, I can't stress enough how much I appreciate how serious you guys take the source material from an analytical standpoint.
While this was great for accelerating Anakin’s distrust in the Jedi Order, it had the unfortunate side effect of creating a divide between Anakin and Tarkin that lasted years after Anakin became Darth Vader.
Vid idea:
What was the power of the senate during the Galatic civil war?(not Palps but the actual senate). Why didnt the Empire just take over? How important it was to the Rebels?
It was mentioned many times in Rogue one and A new hope so I think it plays more important role than it seems
Most fucked up time in anakin' life after padme's death vision.
Master plo koon was really the only one who actually apologized.
Who knew this would end up saving her life?
On the contrary. She was also a target of Order 66, and her leaving the Order was another reason why Anakin fell to the Dark Side. Because what manner of Jedi Order throw their own under the bus to save face?
Ahsoka had to leave the order because Anakin A: Wasn't a Master in Episode 3 (kind of a sticking in the movie too, meaning that she didn't graduate to knighthood yet) B: Anakin didn't have a padawan during Episode 3. C: it's better than killing her off and really pissing off two generations of fans.
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This just makes Revenge of the Sith extremely satisfying.
I hat barris. She had no reason whatsoever to frame ahsoka, her former best friend. Although I still dont agree with it, she still could have framed anyone else.
Maybe so but at the end of the day barris was right the jedi lost their way the moment they joined the clone wars
@@okita_souji_alter Yes, they did lose their way, the Jedi Order was completly failing in the last years of its existence. This Arc showed us how blind the Jedi have become.
She had already fallen to the dark side. That's what it does, it consumes you until frienships and loyalty only becomes tools to rise in power.
I don't believe in the sincerity of her speech in the trial. It sounds like the classic "narcissits prayer": look at what _you made me_ do.
All of this was orchestrated to further isolate Anakin and drive a wedge between him and the Jedi order so it would be easier to convince him to betray them later. She could have framed anyone she wanted to, but specifically chose Ashoka.
I don't think that she wanted to frame Ahsoka in particular. Rather, she would have another Jedi to take the fall, but circumstances avoided favorable outcomes.
I love how the Venator in intro goes down just like the Republic in the last year of Clone Wars
It's a good thing Wolffe set his blaster to stun. Fox would've disobeyed a direct order not to kill Ahsoka.
Kind of doubt that. Fox was loyal to Palpatine and the last thing Palpatine would have wanted is to technically have Ahsokas blood on his hands. He wanted it to be the Jedis fault, to further manipulate Anakin.
Imagine if Ahsoka would have later joined Luke's Jedi Academy in Legends, helping in the fight against Abeloth and the Vong
I just love how the council had the audacity to prolcaim it was a test of the force when they were the ones that didnt even trust her. Had the proceedings actually gone through with her trail its very likely Ahsoka would have been killed because of their incompetence.
I am surprised that none of the Council did not FEEL that something was amiss .
The Jedi council are hypocritical in so many ways.
I ain't gonna front Tech.. that was some bullshit for Windu to do after the fact. I can dig it on that note.. word. . & in that moment Palpatine def was the manipulative master mind. . he was able to further divide the Jedi, cause major confusion on how the whole shit went down to start with & cause Ani to lose Asoka not just as a student but as a little sister in the order. . using an up & coming hungry Tarkin in the tribunal was excellent strategy as well. his emotional detachment from Jedi values helped him even more in his cold & objective examinations of Asoka & the Jedi & the bombing. Palpi def recognized that & used Tarkin in his later operations as we know about. . feel?
Asoka was disillusioned to the Jedi after that. . Yoda & Windu & them was now reduced to corney oldheads or failed mentors & teachers in her eyes.. for a secret or covert strike from Sidious to further weaken the Jedi b4 Order 66, brilliance on his part...
not bigging him up. not giving palpi no extra props. just recognizing strategy & how things can work in guerilla & psychological warfare (the fiction still reflecting real life strategies). Sidious was on Ani's shoulder all the time.. he truly took advantage of a dying order from the old republic & build his empire literally on the backs of the fallen Jedi.. had the Jedi been more versed as opposed to self consumed, the situation def would've turned out different. but that was also the point for Sidious. to manipulate & use their blindness to different things against them.. they didn't see Bariss or whoever becoming a fake fanatic & bombing the temple because of the hidden discourse going on in the order. . all of that confusion & emotional turmoil among the Jedi generally is what Sidious fed off of from the cut & eventually built his industrial galactic empire off of the backs of a once highly great Masterhood order of the Force.. .
It's interesting how art imitates real life, on many different levels.. uumm. interesting indeed.. lol..
I’m still amazed I managed to stay awake reading that essay 😂
@@isaacgame88429 uuummm.. next thing we gotta get you in those comprehension classes.. that's gonna do wonders for you kiddo.. next thing you'll actually understand what was said here.. this is a little different from the video game descriptions or maybe those playboy mags you used to reading.. but oh yeah.. good job indeed little guy. looks like you can stay up that extra half hr now. . . lol...
I love the fact how the Jedi are hurting themselves without even knowing
"I'm sorry, Master, but I'm not coming back."
you know if this happend to me I would 100% be on the verge of turning to the dark side and could you blame me for turning to the dark side if the Jedi council thought I was responsible for a crime I didn' t do
I literally just watched this arc 15 minutes ago haha perfect timing.
I find it as a plot hole that Ahsoka is framed even though she was away in a war. She was next to Anakin and everyone knows Anakin always has an eye on her.
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Agreed, that guys a loser.
i hate this part because it makes me cry when ashoka leaves
The Fugitive “I didn’t kill my wife”… “I don’t care “ !!! Love it
2:35 oh shiz i never noticed baress there before...neat
also now that i think about it....the Jedi council seriously forgot that she wasnt on corasaunt for the bombing, hell she'd probably had little time to even set it up in the first place.
2:35 Love how you can see Bariss walking past the interrogation room where they're holding the wife of the "bomb" guy
Omg, I can't believe I never once noticed that myself. Jawdropped when I watched that part
11:18 so if mace windu would just shut his mouth ahsoka probably wouldn't have left
Lmao right her reaction is so priceless
@@GenerationTech I have a video idea but my parents wont let me borrow their Facebook account to send it so can I tell you my video idea
@@GenerationTech thats why i really hate windu, awesome fighting skills but a not great personality
I’m 17 years old and yet I still think I might show my future children this series as a Clone Wars crash course.
I remember how beyond disgusted I was at the Jedi Council. I only forgave Plo after that.
I feel like yoda also felt bad you can kinda see it in siege of mandalore.
@@AndyWGaming If you watched season 6 Yoda sees a dieing Ashoka in his one of his force trials so he absolutely feels guilty over exiling her.
Thank you wyndell lee very cool
If she never left the Jedi Order cuz she had become a Jedi Knight and Anakin a Jedi master and maybe possibly in a future she might become a Jedi master
What I hate most about how Ashoka left the order is that the Jedi masters on the council would treat her like she was garbage after all she had done for them. And it also ties in to how Anakin turned to the dark side.
That’s what made Bariss’ words so painful to hear. She wasn’t lying.
*QUESTION: Why is it that there is such an unequally high amount of humanoid (sentient) species in comparison to non-humanoids?*
I cant grow a beard as cool as Alan. I have to live with that.
Thanks.
I love you Allen
What makes me angry about ahsoka being framed is that she wasn't even on the planet when the bombing happened and yet still the jedi thought she was the one who organized the bombing and they didn't believe her. Plus doing something like that is not in her character and those who were close to her knew she was loyal to the jedi order and didn't really do anything to clear her name with the exception of Anakin. Obi wan didn't really do anything about it except say he didn't think ahsoka did the crime. And Plo Koon don't get me started on him he was the one who found ahsoka and brought her to the temple and HE DIDN'T believe her either. At least he actually apologized I'll give him that. Barris framing ahsoka doesn't make me as angry as the jedi not believing ahsoka but I still didn't like how she framed her.
Because Ahoska was disillusioned by the Jedi Order after being framed for murder. They turned against her and friend(Bariss) set her up as a terrorist for bombing the Jedi Temple.
When are you doing a long video like did you with the Clone Wars season 1 to 3 before?
This part of the clone wars was sad man. But not as sad as the ending of season 7. That hit harder than the whole clone wars combined. Those last 2 episodes were so tense because order 66 was in affect and silent moments made Ashoka's scenes more tense because we all knew that order 66 was in affect.
Allan wearing the tank top for the past few videos is so hot...or is it just me?
Also, the thing I don't get is that Ahsoka and Anakin were off planet when the bombing happened and have been for a while, so I don't get how they still managed to fck their investigation up and blame Ahsoka
And how did Lunamaria react to her padawan being the bomber?
Dang what the heck did that ladies husband do to make her BLOW HIM UP??
Ikr she's insane.
This just proves that as an individual, Ahsoka was way more level headed and mature than Anakin ever was with the way she handled sensitive and painful moments in her life such as this.
Shows exactly why she never turned to the darkside unlike Anakin.
again covering the episode i watched last night
I always thought that it was Palpatine who provided the nanodroids since the whole affair would not only damage the Jedi but ideally the Jedi would let Ahsoka be executed which would push Anakin from them.
To be honest what I always wondered about those clones who lay in the hallway, not dead must have realized it can’t have been ahsoka
I would have taken up Windu on his "this was your great trial " nonsense, got my knight status and put in my two weeks notice.
Here is a question that it would be cool to see a video on. A compare and contrast to how the Jedi officers of the GAR were treated and viewed compared to the Jedi that served in the Rebel Alliance.
This arc, and the Clone Wars as a whole, really show that just giving the Jedi control of the clone army was really not a good idea. While many Jedi had good intentions and tried to do right by their clone soldier and the citizens they were trying to protect they clearly were being dumped into the deep end of the pool. Being put in charge of such a large force with no real training in military doctrine or theory not only resulted in costly mistakes and loses but also led to resentment and undermining of the Jedi.
The Jedi that we see work with or for the Rebels seem to do much better. There is no real resentment with almost all happy to have them join in the fight. These Jedi are also not made into generals right off the bat but have to work their way up the ranks which seems to really help.
Just a topic I thought would be interesting to look into.
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We need a star wars game from the view of a courascant clone
I(personally) wouldn't say the Jedi were corrupt, rather the became complacent. Then during the war, they had no clue what to do. The Republic government and people looked towards the Jedi for guidance as they always had. The Jedi couldn't loose face and the faith of the people, acted as if they had everything under control. They knew they shouldn't be involved, but, well pride. Turning to the Force for answers, finding nothing. They now began to understand that they were not as one with the Force as they thought. First pride and now panic. They began faking it, but still following the Senate's(Palpatine) lead. They NEVER should have turned Ahsoka over to anyone. They only did so because, they didn't want to risk someone to discover that fact that the Jedi was broken. It wasn't just Ahsoka and Anakin that knew something was wrong with the Jedi. Obviously during the war, many Jedi became disillusioned with the council. Years before the events of The Phantom Menace, more than a few Jedi had been speaking out, saying something was wrong with the order. The council was so convinced that since the ways of the Jedi had been working so far, that it was proof everything is as it should be. Wonder why Qui-gon didn't sit on the council? They wouldn't let him join because he had been pushing for a change in many policies. (Including the ban on attachments.) Also when I watched CW on Netflix, they had a new season. Netflix called it season 7, Disney called it The Lost Missions. Yoda(most likely to listen now) got a visit from a force ghost(I wonder who that was?) Telling to go on a trip(non spoiler summery) where he would receive the answers to what was really going on. He then asked, the very clever and most adept at deflecting the truth, Anakin, to cover for him with the council. Ana offered to go with Yoda to protect him, but Yoda refused. The very stubborn(and as of yet very loyal)Anakin convinced Yoda to take R2D2 with him. Yoda discovers that yes indeed the Jedi lost their way, and should have listened to those Jedi who could see it. P.S. The events of ESB was not because Yoda didn't know R2. It was just two old class clowns reuniting.
Okay I know this opinion it's going to be the less popular opinion, but I do hope ahsoka becomes a Jedi again, have a (I'm a Jedi like my father before me) moment.
Do you think that before the nano-droids exploded they all said "roger roger"?
I hope so that would be funny.
that episode marked the end of Star Wars we know
Early gang I got a question clones or clanka’s?
Droids at the start, clones late war
Both. Clones for mid-level command positions. Droids as grunts. The clones have initiative and creativity the droids lack. The droids have superior durability and numbers.
Now in a 1v1 situation without the limiting manipulation of Palpatine? Droids. Sheer numbers would easily overcome the quality advantage of the clones. 1.2 million clones shortly after the war starts? Against tens or hundreds of millions of droids? Is that a joke? There is no way the Republic should have won ANY battles let alone held the line. Jedi or no Jedi. There comes a point where quantity has a quality all it's own and this would have been one such case.
As bad as it was for Ahsoka, one could see it as a way of the force pushing her away from the Jedi and being her own person. It wasn't a trial, it was the force telling Ahsoka to forge her own path away from the Jedi order, in its own twisted way.
The force must be pretty fucked up if it just decides if people live or die, and where they go in life for the sake of it.
@@TheAusar Oh it is, but to be fair life can get dark too.
Yeah, but it is dark for no reason. But if you told me the force sacrificed like 20 beings or so to make ahsoka leave the jedi, that's fucked up.
@@TheAusar It is
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I'm waiting for the bad batch experimental clone unit force 99
"And keep [the Jedi] in check"
Actually the Jedi were in checkMATE the moment the Clone Wars began. You pointed this out in your video about what would've happened had the Jedi stayed out of it.
Also if we include "the will of the Force" as a legitimate cause for effects then they were in checkmate the moment the Force Wars began.
Allen, you smoke the ganja?
I have little to no interest in the Clone Wars series(outside of Tartovosky's short version), but this was a good story that you explained well. Good job.
Bruh the clone wars is the best starwars content other than the oy
@@thadmeboy1129 I couldn't get into it. The art style put me off, and the story didn't really hook me. To each their own. I enjoy The Old Republic MMO though.
@@Arkancide The art style of TCW isn't that different from Genndy's series.
Didn’t Barris’ speech prompt the Grand Inqusitor to turn on and kill his fellow Temple Guardsmen?...that sorta affected the Jedi defense of the Temple 😬
I wonder if Palpatine recruited the inquisitors before order 66 and if we'll find out what happened to Bariss Offee in the Bad Batch.
The Jedi Council tossed Ahsoka to the wolves to save face. No wonder she walked.
Pretty heartbreaking arc.
How in the world did everyone just forget Ahsoka wasn't even on the planet when the bombing took place. The Jedi threw her way to make themselves look better, then tried to gaslight her about why they did it after she was proven innocent. Shame on the Jedi Council for throwing her under the bus. They deserved to have her scorn them and walk away.
I still don't understand why she left. "Because the jedi didn't trust her"? Hell, there were plenty of evidence she was responsible for the bombing. What could have the Jedi done about it? If they protected Ahsoka, believing she could not be behind the attack, the public would be mad on the Jedi; by the way, it's exactly what Palpatine wants.
Also I think you don't have to on Coruscant to stage an attack, given that the bomb was planted by different people.
I thought there was only 3 years of the clone wars
Ironically leaving the Order saved her life.
Everybody failed Ahsoka. Instead of investigating, Anakin spent a long time hunting her down; the Clones participated (Rex was the only one to say she was innocent, but he did chase her), Wolffe stunned her even though she had save his life in season 1 (no, I'm not buying the "they're following orders" line), the Council railroaded her without an investigation, Anakin doesn't give her a real lawyer but instead give her Padme, and then the Council was super arrogant in their offer to take her back. I really wish Ahsoka had given the Council a piece of her mind and noted their arrogance and how no Jedi or Padawan was safe under their leadership. I don't know if Lucasfilm realized that with this arc, they were taking two heros (Yoda and Obi Wan) and making them into villains. I think it was unintentional, but I personally don't like either character anymore.
Before I start watching this video, I would to say that the directors would have to find a way for her to leave the Jedi Order, or otherwise, they would have to come up with and explanation to why she wasn't in episode 3. Or George Lucas would have to refilm episode 3.
What is the intro song boys?
What ever happened to the arc where Obi-Wan had to pretend to be a criminal and fake his death. Dooku was trying to kidnap the Chancellor, doesn’t that count as event during the war, and Ashoka was there during the time. I feel like he missed it
Ahsoka is Ahsogone
Ashoka leaves the Jedi like star wars fans leave Disney Star Wars.
Ahsoka literally left at the end of the 2nd year. That's canon bro
If I were her I would of said “she was right about one thing, the Jedi order has lost their way” and then walked out 🫳🏼🎤
Nobody gonna point out How Allan can just say some messed up stuff so casualy?? Well, I guess we all got conditionned lmao
Ahsoka left because she saw not only the flaws of the Jedi Order but its corruption and evils through the actions of Barris offe and the council's actions.
And the worst is yet to come in s6 because we get 5s death (man two sad arcs back to back)