BIG Derailment Near Front Royal Virginia - I-66 Norfolk Southern Freight Train 12R Linden VA
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- Big Derailment Near Front Royal Virginia - I-66 Norfolk Southern Freight Train Norfolk Southern 12R Train Wreck
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Proper job then??? Looks very much like the road has spread under the wheels of the front locomotive, probably due to rotten sleepers/ties, causing the spikes or other types of fixings securing the base plates to the rail foot to lose their holding power, turning the rail over rather than it being a technical fault with the points/switches, as these are always interlocked with the signals , which cannot clear to a proceed aspect unless the points/switches have been detected to be in the correct position and the facing point lock applied. Hydraulically operated rail clamp locks are also interlocked to the signals... I was a train driver in UK for over 40 years, now retired, and witnessed the aftermath of quite a few derailments, accidents and incidents to both passenger and freight trains in my time... May I reiterate what the previous post has said... stay well clear of the railway and take any photographs from a safe vantage point... you never know what may be hanging loose on a moving train... that applies to level/grade crossings/station platforms too when watching trains pass...
Thank you... If you're interested in current and historic rail accident investigations, you can find all of the US reports on the railroad section of the NTSB website, the Canadian ones on the Transport safety Board of Canada website, Australian ones on the ATSB website, NZ ones on TAIC website, British (and some Irish ones) on "the Railways Archive website, or RAIB website UK, RAIU website (Ireland)... I used to be a Trade Union Health and Safety Rep (ASLEF) before retiring, hence my interest in rail accidents... you can always learn from the mistakes of others...
@@bdog734 I reported the idiot.
I am retired railroad supervision Tranmaster Yardmaster Wreckmaster Safetyman and track checker. Have worked industrial switching yards Steel mills. Never worked on mainlines HOwever worked with all the Rail carriers Canadian national . Norfolksouthern. Conrail penn central. List goes on. Rerailed molten iron torpedo bottles. Slag pots. Steel ingot cars all miserable conditions on my belly with wood blocking guage rods grease and some luck and replacers. 49 years and 65 age. Time to go home. Its a young mans game. Railroads gets in your blood. Your mind and eventually your soul. So what do i do now? Sit in my chair and watch railroad sites on internet. Out of the SMOKE AND STEAM i became who i am. I still have my gloves. If you worked on railroads you know what they are for. I see them and memories come back. I will never forget my life as a railroader. Thanks to you. I may see you on down the line. May all your switches be !ined for you and a clear tracks ahead. OK BACK!!!!!
You brought up a very good point early on, about being aware and alert for anything. That empty centerbeam had a number of cables come loose. If just one breaks or otherwise comes loose on a moving train, you'd likely never see it before it took your head off. Shifted loads, dragging equipment... stay away and stay safe, folks.
Its like the Video where the kid was railfanning a Reading and Northern train on their first run on a reactivated line and the rear of the train jumped the tracks when he was standing less than 5 feet away.
Aaackk!! Holy smokes, NEVER gave that loose cable thing a thought! Subbed.
@@dexecuter18 - I recall a website run by a railroad engineer who basically wanted to "scare kids straight" by posting photos of actual deaths by climbing under railcars. In one, there was a youth whose torso was severed just above his pelvis. The characteristic "belt line" bruise where the wheel flange pinched the body in two was pointed out. Think about that the next time you use a pizza cutter wheel, lol.
Or , like that landslide video that knocked the intermodal train over . You can see a few signs of the dirt shifting early on but if one was not paying attention to the hill , and was close to the tracks , the intermodal cars could of smashed you and you would be dead in an instant. Railfanning may not seem that dangerous , but trains are sooo dangerous and things can snap or change in a second . A rail could flop over , an intermodal car could smash into you , or maybe a switch fails and a locomotive flips onto you . Always be careful
@@Wassupitsmike - Yeah, that one was just north of me near Mukilteo, WA. They always have slides there. ruclips.net/video/UeT0m-hpD_4/видео.html
I'm a former NS conductor. My biggest fear when riding up and down the rails was ending up on the ground. Nice job in covering the derailment.....very professional.
Thanks fstop!! You are appreciated!
My Dad was with Southern. Rode the Crescent to Atlanta quite a bit. I was 13 in Oct '77 when the Crescent derailed in Spencer Yard, NC. That was the first time riding by myself from Alexandria to Atlanta.
@@scottdowney4865 wow! I can't imagine that moment on a famous line.
Scott Downey Southern legacy here too. Father and grandfather. Dad was on the Crescent when it derailed in Culpeper. Big wreck. If I remember right, the conductor came to get him since he was the ranking official on the train.
@@RailfanRowan Just subscribed your channel, first time seeing it, this is awesome videos, I worked for General American Transportation Corporation better known as G.A.T.X at the Deer Park, Texas Facility as a Rip Track Supervisor, once in awhile as cars were switched into the facility, cars would derail and some actually went on there sides, big mess if one takes a few with it, appreciate your videos. Closest I come to derailments now are on a H.O. scale layout LMBO.
Huge respect to the salvage and recovery guys. Takes good assessment and coordination of personnel, and you never know when 20 tons of metal could move.
Excellent coverage young man, I agree it's great that no one was hurt. I have mad respect for the guys that get in there and clean this stuff up. Great content, thanks.
Thanks a ton Paul!
The torch is long not because of heat but for safety and/ or ease of use...
Yea, I'd want to be rrreeeeeealllllllll far away in case it's under alot of tension
Yeah it's long so you can reach stuff with out being totally in the line of fire. The rods he cut are part of the break rigging and are attached to the trucks via pins
yeah as someone who's worked with torches- they don't need to be long at all, you only need it to be 3/4 foot long from the valves to the torch end.
@@javierpowell4705 yea a shop torch, if you're cutting something big with somewhat unknown tensions/ loads you want to be real far away
@@Alex-uy7pc yeah was just contributing the fact that it wasn't heat that necessitates the length
That must have made one hell of a noise when it derailed.
ITA A DEEP MOANING / CRUNCHING SOUND , THE TIMBERS AND BALAST CUSHION A LOT OF THE CONTACT .
I know when that Norfolk Southern train derailment it was the biggest noise I ever heard.
@@brianharrigan8821 what?
A very excellent video. This is a perfect example of what this type of video should be. Informative and NO loud, dramatic background music (Thank you very much!). I hit that subscribe button.
Rowan, thanks for the ACTION Sr citizen railfan
" Hey honey! What is it? Umm I think there is a freight train on our front lawn and parts of it are in the neighbors back yard
Haha
Great job...good information and THANK YOU for posting.
Thanks Reid
Thank you Rowan. This was EXCELLENTLY covered by you and is probably the best derail coverage I have seen.
Real nice footage. Can't wait for an update!
Good stuff Rowan!
blancolirio, fancy seeing you here! (this is a fake account I am on)... but hi.
Nice
Time to get a drone bro. Footage would look insane of a derailment like that one.👍👍👍✌
We working on it!! Can't wait!
Thanks for posting. Been on scene of 2 derailments, what an awesome experience. It makes you appreciate the forces involved.
Very Glad to see you have Posted a New Video. We Really Missed your Content. 👍
Great video man. Amazing derailment. Glad nobody was hurt.
Empties at the front + possibly defective switch.
Could be a combo
@@RailfanRowan could be that and more. i thank you for posting media like this. i was always curious how they took care of incidences like this.
@Kevin Greene Yeah, you been there and done that
Great video. I spent 4 years back in the late eighties/Early nineties re railing trains. It was the hardest work I ever did in my life.
Awesome video Rowan glad you got to see the workers clearing the car from the derailment of 12R
Incredible footage I like your technique keep up the good work That is some serious force to rip them rails and ties up like that did be safe take care
Thanks Paul!
Excellent video- commentary and editing are first-rate! I expected to do some fast-forwarding, but I watched every minute. Subscribed!
Thanks so much that's encouraging Chris!
Very (kind of) nice video ! We live with a train track less than 1 block from the house here and always wonder when this will happen to us (argh). Very informative, just very nice ! Thank you for posting !!
" a polite, humble request " That's why I knew I liked you. Your whole approach, is just that. Come film in my backyard anytime.
Amazing video. Been around rails a long time, this footage is rarely ever seen.
Thanks!!!
4:40 - A near daily site when I'm heading home from work to Tacoma, WA, is seeing flatbed semis loaded with new wheelsets from Greenbrier.
FRA intercepts for high kips is the majority of the reason for wheel set replacement.
Appreciate the close up action and info Rowan! Definitely interesting to see the clean up from different sight perspectives. I’ve been trying to apply with NS for a while and this video just gives me more information on the dangers of the railroad 🛤
You are a very good commentator and photographer. You really know how to explain what they are seeing and the work of the wreck men. Good job.
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
Haha
Great song
this is truly a man of culture
Wow, very well done! Your camera goes exactly where my eyes want to see, and you spend enough time to make it interesting. For example, I was afraid you were going to cut away or edit out when you were showing the freed train car being dragged up the embankment by the crane. I only wish you were able to get more locomotive footage. Especially lifting those, what are they, like, 200 tons each? Wicked heavy! :D
TYPICALLY THE LOAD, LOCATION , AND DAMAGE ARE THE CRITERIA FOR WHETHER OR NOT TO INVESTIGATE.
RAILROADS ARE SELF INSURED , SO NO CLAIMS ABOUT EQUIPMENT AND ROAD REPAIR, THE FREIGHT IS INSURED SEPERATELY.
140 ton Each
@@r.d.ontheroad-1094 Huh? That's it? 140 tons? I can carry one under each arm.
Rowan thank you for the footage and narration, great job as always. God bless you and keep safe. ☝🏼🙏🏻🙂
Thanks Chaplain!! Will do!
Outstanding work capturing these scenes for all the rest of us to see. That's some heavy duty, no nonsense work cleaning that mess up!
WOW... I am gladd the 611 was not running on that line anymore.
"This is the time in life I wish I had a drone." Heh, I'm thinking along similar lines. Time was we'd see something or some place but either it's inaccessible or there's simply no way for a shot from the ground. I used to be skeptical about drones, but having seen the sort of video and performance recently they produce, I'm thinking I have to learn more about them.
Definitely! Considering soonn
Drones should be outlawed and only used for specific reasons by specific people. These guys Don't need the distraction of some imbecile flying a drone around for their self important reasons. Railroad employees yes, general public no.
@@RailfanRowan If by that you mean right now, then yeah man go for it! If not, well okay, soon as you can! :D
@@thebusterdog6358 Don't you think Rowan would learn about the laws and rules of drone operation BEFORE he went into a derail situation?
Dead Freight West yeah, some guy used a drone to film the damn break and flooding in Michigan, and the results were fantastic.
I just starting watching videos on trains, and am fascinated. I never thought this kind of stuff would entertain me. I don’t mean the derailment or the wreck just the train topic in general.. Thank you. I actually understood everything.
I had no idea this happened! We are on the west coast, not a word!
Thanks for this! Well done 👍
Nice video work. I was a locomotive engineer for Norfolk southern 27 years. This train has some speed when it detailed. To make the cars ribbon like this. Being the lead locomotive is on the ground if there was a switch it's likely he split the switch.
That's what it seems, cool that you lasted so long! Thanks for the view and the info!!
@@RailfanRowan sure thing man. It's not that uncommon actually that switches are picked. So many people don't realize just how a train stays on the track. It's not much lol
If switch was open lights should have both been red. Maybe end of switch broken off. Agree with you had to been something with switch
When trains are running off the track the ride quality is sometimes less smooth and going around curves can be tricky.
That's why they they have TRACKS!! Someday, Elon Musk will come up with a trackless train...3 miles long, or as long as any train the RR wishes. And switches could be eliminated. Hang in there, railroaders!!
MusicalTrains Brown Australia already beat him to it. They have road trains. The record is 28 full size trailers.
Thank you for putting this. Hubby loved it.
Nice filming of this derailment and good descriptions about how the derailment is cleaned up.Keep up the good work!
It's a good day when no toxic chemicals are spilled. Was it a good day?
I always hated any significant number of empty flat cars that were in the middle of my train when I was a conductor. If a train jumps that is the more likely point it will happen in your train if it pulls apart to fast or rolls in to fast especially while on sharp turns.
🤔I put it like this. Any trains that is going off the rails is not a good day at all.
@@slicaltimistic1 right, but for those of us who live in the area, we do indeed want to know if any chemicals were spilled. Many of us are on well water, for one example of our concern.
It would be Interesting to know how Fast the Train was Moving. It would be equally Interesting to know what Percentage of Derailments include the Units at the Front of the Train. My guess would be the Higher Percentage of Derailments occur at other points on the Train from Broken Axles, Cracked Wheels, Broken Rails, Malfunctioning Switches, etc. Thanks for the footage. 👍
My guess 35-45 mph. regular freight is typically capped out at 45mph on most NS lines. From what I can see it is not split rail so side with probably 35-45 mph max speed for that rail zone.I side more with 35 mph zone. Looking on google earth with the curves that are present in that area I side with 35 mph zone. Maybe even 25-30mph cause I see their is a sharp curve on this line in the area of the wreck. Up to 55 mph if intermodal.
Very well documented derailment young man. Great information which is clear, concise and to the point. Very well done!
good to see you looking safe and healthy Rowan, sad to see another derailment but very glad there were no injuries. stay safe and healthy!
Thanks Michael
Yeah that’s a really bad treatment . Hopefully none of the engineers or Brigton got hurt.😔😔
They split the switch!
GREAT video. In my 70's and love everything railroad. This my first video watching recovery action. I appreciate your sharing it. I will look for your work on a regular basis.
In Pittsburgh, Pa. area, lots of trains ! I remember, at Christmas, after building the train platform, laying my head down on the platform and hearing the rumble of my train coming and going down the track, at track height. !!
Awesome video and information my friend. I used to help re-rail with the old MKT in Oklahoma, during the early 80's but never saw such a tight spot as that, always wondered how it was done. Thank you for the education!!!
Cool story Jim thanks for the experience, and thanks for the compliment I will continue to make videos like this
Last time I was this early, trains hadn't been invented yet
Hahahaaaaaa thanks for being early!!
Wow awesome video. Never been this close before so ty for getting in there & filming this. Subbed too!
Great video! I was at the Harpers Ferry derailment but this wreck was much more impressive! Appreciate what all those wreck crews do on the backend to support our railroads
An accident with a lot of damage, event outside the railway area when acting like shown in this video.
If you worked for a Class 1 you wouldn't feel so favorable to them these people deserve whatever comes their way.
What should this mean ??
@mark robertson Many thanks from Germany !
Just saw this video. Train lover from way back and I love watching these type of video's. I work in a Bldg in Haymarket that I think serves this line. I hear trains go by at least every hour and to know one that I hear caused this is amazing. Always a dangerous profession and if I hadn't gone in the direction in my younger days I would have had a job in the train industry. Keep up the good work.
Great video, Rowan. Camera work, narration, and all the info you shared with us. Very professional. Thank you.
Has anyone else ever wanted to see a derailment like this actually happen? Am I the only one?
Seen, it many times. NS are derailment specialists, crane master, Hulcher and Corman are wreck specialists.
Sean Collins no I mean actually happen. Like seeing the train pileup.
If you work in a hump yard for 22 years, you'll see many happen, in real time.
Sean Collins cool! Is it really interesting too see? I have a bunch of historical footage of the Duluth Missabe & Iron Range Wrecking crew in the 50’s and it certainly has changed in terms of safety. They had no hard hats or safety glasses or anything.
I do believe that there is a old video about a hump yard derailment. Ima see if I can find it
Ok it didn’t jump the switch I have a friend who works for ns he changes wheels and all that he had to change a couple wheels out on some intermodal cars the other day that had derailed. Those cars rode the track for a few then they came to a crossing the wheels hit the crossing and then re railed it’s self when it did it messed the rails up it was in front of 12R. Then 12R came in behind it and derailed and all that
Maybe the damaged wheel comes along and breaks the switch frog. Then the lead unit of 12R finished the job.
There was groves on the wheels on the train in front of him and that damaged the rails
Rowan that was some wonderful footage. Hopefully your staying safe out there.
GREAT piece of filming, Thank you.
Well this was truly amazing! Thanks for sharing👍🏻
Thanks PJ glad I could share!
Goodness, that was a rough one. Fascinating coverage, thanks!
You do a very nice job! Appreciate your kindness
Excellent job! Thanks for pointing out the safety issues. Spent 20 years on Amtrak. Thankfully no derailments.
Wow, that’s really amazing. Thanks for the video.
Excellent video, save up for that drone. Sorry to hear the signal was taken out but so happy nobody was hurt. Cranemasters and RJ Corman are amazing at clean ups.
Nice work! Never seen them clearing derailed cars before. Thanks for sharing.👍🏻
Glad it was informative!
Great job! Really enjoyed watching this.
16:05 torch extender pole LOL 😆! great video 😉 I really enjoy your channel
Thank you ganja!!
Great footage, could've watched them work all day😊 TFS
Wow! Great footage Rowan!
Great Video, Thank you for sharing it. Enjoyed it. 👍🏼
Outstanding video! Great work and thanks for sharing!
To think this just happened a month before i moved to front royal, just found your channel and i love it, always been a big train nerd myself.
Thanks Ed!!
Hello from Pennsylvania. Nice job on initial coverage of this derailment. Looking forward to additional reports. Thank you. CAS.
Great commentary, goes well with the videos. Great work Rowan 👍🏻
Thanks a bunch. You make a very good point about how for these emergency workers every call out is unique. Untangling millions of pounds of steel spaghetti. Looking for part 2.
amazing footage, thanks for sharing!!!
Wow! What a mess. Great video; very informative. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome Russell!
Thank you!! and Great Job Reporter!!! what a crazy derailment!
Thanks Brian!
Occasionally we drive down to Lexington because my oldest son attends VMI. Driving 81 we pass the exit for Front Royal and your video popped up on my home page tonight and I thought it was a funny coincidence.
Thank you Rail-Man Rowan.
Great footage. 👌
Thanks John!!
This is the third video of yours that I’ve watched. Granted, it’s from 2 years ago, but I have to say you do a great job in covering all the aspects of railroading. I’m now subscribed and wish I would have discovered your channel sooner. Keep up the good work!
BTW, I live in Southern California.
Absolutely awesome. Thank you.
This is an excellent video. Ns had a derailment in knoxville and they had trains running through again in 24 hours!
Hi rowan, great vid again. working in the yards in Wa state, for bnsf refueling their equipment, was a great job. Dangerous but great. taught me a lot of how it all works, so now i see a train, i stand back some and let it go..
Nice story thanks for sharing
Awesome video Roman of the derailment I hope you do a follow up on it
In the words of Peter Griffin... Your video was "Frickin' sweet!" I hope the crew and response teams were/are OK. Very nice job with the coverage!
Thanks Buddy from Australia. Stay Safe.
Awesome footage! Thanks!
Great footage, thanks for posting. Yeah, this was a good one. You were right on the money, lots of weight and momentum, when things go bad, lots of destruction in a hurry.
Thanks for the support David!
No doubt the most informative video so far! I really feel sorry for the people whose lawn is being torn up by those dump trucks but at least their property wasn't affected too badly!
Thats a huge operation to clear a derailment like this and a lot of well trained men doing what it takes great video!!!
Every case is different!
Wow that is dangerous. Thanks for sharing. You did a fantastic job with the video.
Thanks for the reporting, on the fly too...amazing what 20 seconds can do to freight trains
Certainly incredible
Thank you for sharing this.
Great work. Love seeing all that heavy equipment picking up heavy trains.
Thanks for sharing!
When you said - that is where the pin goes, --- that part is called the truck, it has the wheels and bearings , springs, and yes that is all that holds them on to the car, tanker, or what have you. Scary in a way, but it works, and its simple to fix. when putting a carback on the tracks! Grew up 500 yrds from the tracks. Loved hearing and seeing them go by. When I was about 9, I rode on the old train with the coal burning engine. and the old passenger cars! I still remember that! Thanks, again!
Dude ! You put out a badass video. Thank you.