It was a act... to think of it... damon knew Kathrine would never let stefen find happiness without her... so he brought her back just to get in the way with stefen and elena
This is one of my favourite episodes of the season simply because it’s Klaus and Rebekah terrorising the Mystic Falls gang for like 40 minutes straight 😭😭😭
Stefan is GOATED for fighting Klaus’s compulsion. Not only to bite Elena, but he had to specifically be compelled to turn his humanity off after fighting Klaus’s order to do it twice.
@@packedentertainment2866 very true but I believe bill Forbes could resist compulsion based on years of hypnosis training. I’m sure he confirmed it or he does confirm it at somepoint.
"The only thing stronger than your craving for blood is your love for this one girl" is one of my favourite quotes ever. Stefan fought right until the end so NO ONE can say that he doesn't love Elena. He literally had to be FORCEFULLY compelled by the strongest vampire/only hybrid in existence to turn his humanity off so he would feed on Elena. Again, Paul Wesley's acting is absolutely incredible. This remains one of my absolute favourite Stelena moments and one of the best episodes of the show. Also, can we stop the Matt hate train and appreciate what he did? If he hadn't, Klaus would have without a doubt killed Elena. And yeah, he wanted to see his sister too but who wouldn't? The way he did it was just a little extreme 😂
That scene will always remind me why I'm team Stelena. And you're right about Paul's acting. He portrays the humanity switch so well. The whole casting of this show is a 10/10
Idk. Matt put the responsibility for his survival on Bonnie when he didn't have to. That's super shitty towards her, imagine if he had died it would have been horrible for her :(
i hate how it’s stefan who has to suffer. we forget stefan’s only here for DAMON. and it’s almost never his fault when his humanity gets turned off. yet he has to deal with the consequences of what comes with it. and he’s the character with the most guilt over the pain he causes :(
And Damon got his werewolf bite trying to save Caroline and Tyler and Elena from Klaus and his silly sacrifice. And I recall just a few episodes ago, Damon offered himself up to Klaus as a replacement for Stefan, but Klaus had too much of a man crush on Stefan and was nostalgic about all the evil fun Klaus and Stefan had together back in the day. Yes, Stefan is in this mess because of his love for Damon, but Damon is trying to make it right because he loves his brother too. Sorry, I just like both characters, and the fact they each have good and bad qualities makes them more interesting. I have a hard time picking one over the other..
@@leeanngouttiere9077 yea damon loves his brother so much that he’s constantly flirting with his girl while he’s gone 😭 and damon was only trying to save caroline and tyler because HE fucked up. damon offering himself up isn’t some noble act just basic decency. he literally says to elena “ before i go to hell trying to being my brother back for you. i want u to remeber how u felt when he was gone “ like dude you should be fighting to get ur brother back because u love him. not bc elena does. and STOP TRYING TO GET IN HIS GF PANTS.
Not sure how Maddox taking Caroline and Tyler for the sacrifice had anything to do with Damon. And Damon had been tracking Stefan all summer without telling Elena and keeping his distance from her. Yeah, he loves his brother. I guess we just disagree on this.
@@lilly50821You are wrong, Damon isn’t the reason that Caroline and Tyler were be taken wym by that (In any case he is the reason that Jenna was taken since he already save Tylwr and Caroline and Klaus had Jules so he needed only a vampire and use Jenna for that) but actually Damon have nothing to do with Caroline and Tyler being the sacrifies, he just save them not because he own them something so yes that was a good thing
@@lilly50821 (and the other Stefan apologists) SPOILERS I want to start by saying that I love Stefan's character, but Elena is NOT Stefan's girl. He does not have ownership on her life. I'm tired of having to repeat that Stefan literally Broke up with Elena during episode 3 (I don't want to see you, I don't want to be with you, etc...) and I don't want to hear that it was not his fault. The fact is that Elena and him are NOT together at this point. Furthermore, whether Stefan is in his ""ripper mode"" or NOT in (meaning it will be the same way after Klaus gives him his freedom to act back) he is going to treat people around him like shit, and mentally torture/threaten Elena's life during episode 11, giving her the immensely traumatic experience of being led to her death on the SAME bridge her parents died. Stefan also started later in the season to go on a selfish and childish revenge path over Klaus, threatening everyone's safety, culminating in Jeremy being killed by Klaus who will want to send him a message. He clearly values his revenge over Elena, her friends, and his supposed being a "better man than Damon". Stefan has NO respect for his brother (even though he saved his life, so yeah, he has respect for his brother's life, but not in Damon Salvatore). It can be seen when he repeatedly treats him like shit all the way between season 3 to , especially season 4. He's always acting as if Damon doesn't deserve anything or is an extremely bad person, even though Damon has just been handling him in a selfish-rampage mode for 70+ years. and Damon acting normal - mostly - and was just wanting to be with his brother until around 50 years ago when Damon finally turned it off, with Enzo). Just a few episodes ago Stefan killed Andie (which distraught Damon, since he had no one and enjoyed her company, even if she was compelled to shut up), and I didn't hear Stefan fans say anything about that => Stefan is always excused for his heinous acts. There's always an "excuse". The dude killed tens of thousands of people as a ripper over the years and never made an effort to get used to drinking human blood (little by little) except for a few measly weeks... which condemned thousands of people to die by his teeth whenever he went off the wagon. He is NOT better than Damon. However, I want to say that he IS a good person, and very selfless when he wants also, especially at the end of the show where he shows his best self.
Paul Wesley's acting in this episode was on another level, Stefan fought so hard for Elena even willing to end his own life just to not hurt her. This episode was so good, one of my favorites this season.
Tyler being a hybrid when he got introduced at the beginning of the show wasn’t something I think anyone could predict at least he’s more interesting now
"TURN IT OFF!" My absolute fav scene in the entire series! I'll never forget the first time i watched it, the intense emotions, and so many different emotions all at once. Sent chills through my whole body.
5:40 I just love the collective oohs that Bryce, zuff, and rob gave when damon rejected Katherine by saying, "the truth is, you just don't do it for my anymore." damon pushing Katherine's advances away, amuses me every time. Klaus slapping Elena is so messed up omg, I feel so bad for Elena, she literally almost got killed by Stefan, even though he was compelled to, tortured by Rebekah and almost got killed by Klaus again. she's been through so much in this episode omg.
Thank you ! And she's going to go through much more during the whole season :(. Im happy to see people who notice Elena has to go through really horrible stuff, it's rare.
That conversation in the gym when the clock is running, that's some of Paul's BEST Stefan work. I know the first time around I watched the show I did not really appreciate this episode. But somewhere along the road I found myself realizing it's one of the best episodes, surely of the season at least. There's so much in it. One, I think this is some of the sexiest you'll see of Klaus. The smile on his face after he kills Tyler... ❤️💦💀⚰️ And what gives him his big bad villain juice for me in this episode requires remembering something Rose said in season 2 which I think a lot of people forget. SHE SAYS "there's no switch you can turn. Sure when you're a newbie but after a couple of hundred years… you just have to pretend". So when Klaus compels Stefan to turn his emotion off, it is.... A spanking. It's something that Klaus has evolved so far beyond. It's the kind of punishment you enact on a child, yet he likes to think of Stefan as a friend. It's an action I think about a lot when I think of the number one personality adjective for Klaus, which over the years of rewatching I've long seen that "insecure" fits the best. And that doesn't make him any less of a real villainy villain. It's a perfect episode to look around and see the evidence of the bad he can bring.
I watched this episode live & lemme tell you, I was on the edge of my seat for the entire hour!!!! The commercial breaks were testing my sanity. The tl on twitter was ON FIRE!!! Good times
Poor, Elena lol people be hating on her and I admit, she gets on my nerves sometimes, but she's a literal teenager and these grown ass vamps be taking advantage of her 😂
Exactly! Caroline gets on my nerves way more times than Elena and people doesn’t even say a word when it happen but with Elena you see the hate in every video. From all the things that I see in the show people what Caroline did in season 5 is the most fucked thing that I see in the show and she taking that easy and that fandom is more absurd, and then I laugh that a lot of the same people who defend her are the same that hate Damon and don’t try to recognize any redemption that the character have had but they pray Caroline lol (at least Bonnie is way more constant character and way more forward in her actions, her annoying time was in season 1 but after that Bonnie is great
@@JeanPierre-hb9mv Jean-Pierre, t'es le meilleur ! Wow ! Even rarer to get Caroline-realists than no- Elena-haters. 10/10 comment, everything is right !
@@tarukaja8 did you know that I’m learning English? I try to understand your comment but I can’t, maybe you misspell some thing but I really didn’t get what you was saying
@@JeanPierre-hb9mv Sorry ! I used made-up expressions (made up with understandable words, but it's okay...). What I meant is that I completely agree with you. It's very rare to read comments of people who are realistic about Caroline (who admit that she can be very annoying and selfish), even rarer than reading comments about people who don't hate Elena. And I was thanking you for that comment ;).
V@@tarukaja8 Right ? I can never understand the Elena hate either. I mean ,all are going on and on about poor Stefan in this episode. And no thought about what that poor girl is made to undergo ???? Seriouly ???? And it makes me mad that Stefan fans say he's much too good for her and that she doesnt deserve him. 🙄🙄 He's lucky that she still loved him enough after everything he put her through , starting with how he struck up a friendship with her under false pretenses Could never stand Caroline either. She gets worse as the seasons progress. Always interfering and judgemental.
Stefan’s love for elena is so pure She doesn’t deserve him!! If u guys still don’t realise this no point in watching further Btw paul wesley acting in this episode 👏
Ok let’s go..the only thing supreme about Stefan is how syco he is, he literally rips people apart and puts them back together..and let’s not forget killing children on Christmas Eve..smh
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfya your right he was a psycho I mean his is a vampire but as we seen he takes accountability and feels the guilt he learned that he is a I guess blood addict and he doesn’t drink human blood anymore not excusing his action because that was terrible and psychotic but he’s changed he had his character development already just like Damon had his in the middle of the show Stefan had his been many decades ago
"why are they in the dark?". I kid you not I asked myself that question every time I've seen this episode (a lot). And just now it clicked that it's because Matt was creeping up on the classroom so they probably thought it was a staff member coming to bust them and hid. 😅😂
I just love Stefan. And Elena is so annoying like girl Stefan done gave everything for you and she still complain how could you look at his brother got comfort …
@@gitanastanciauskaite3893I didn’t say I didn’t like her she’s just annoying at time when she get mad at Stefan for certain things he literally does to save her life
This was another great plan from the witches! They told him that in order to break the hybrid curse so he can be both a vampire and a werewolf he has to make that ritual: kill a vampire, kill a werewolf, destroy the moonstone and kill the doppelgänger by drinking her blood but here was the trap! Klaus didn’t had to kill the doppelgänger, he had just to drink from her blood because he would need the blood of the doppelgänger to create his hybrids! The witches told him that lie so when he kills the doppelgänger he wouldn’t be able to create more Hybrids! The blood of the doppelgänger was the key for his hybrids to survive the transition but the witches lied telling him that killing the doppelgänger was part of the ritual to break the curse!
Zuff I know you're chomping at the bit for Delena but show some compassion and respect for Stefan. He fought that compulsion so hard. And being a ripper is bad enough. But being one with your humanity turned off? 😞 If he ever is able to turn it back on, imagine his unbelievable guilt.
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfhow the fuck is Stefan a hypocrite? And why is that somehow worse than all the fucked up things Damon has done? You damon stans are insufferable 🙄
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfhow is Stefan a hypocrite?? And why is that somehow worse than all the fucked up shit Damon has done?? You damon stans are insufferable 🙄
@@ironisa imo Damon is real and Stefan is fake…from the very beginning of the show Stefan painted Damon as a Monster,but not telling anyone he used to be a monster too ( and had wiped out a whole village women and children) but because Stefan cries and says I’m sorry he always gets a pass..he never volunteered the truth about himself until he got caught and had to…HYPOCRITE…
They did a really good job with Matt’s character because it would be depressing af to loose all your close friends and your sister and mom pretty much, like yea he still has his friends around at times but in season 1 Matt was always seen hanging out with someone mostly Tyler and he lost that
Poor Elena....feel terrible for her. She went through soo much in this episode. That too , not very long after being literally sacrificed in the ritual last season.
I tried to save this one until you guys posted the next because I knew what was gonna happen. I couldn’t help myself though these TVD reactions are self care lol
That scene in the end ,with Damon and Elena....the way she looks at him !!!! What is often criminally overlooked, is that Damon offers to compel Elena's bad memories of Stefan away....so that she would never remember the terrible things Stefan did to her here or indeed any of his ripper activities ,so that all she would remember would be the nice Stefan of their early relationship. And she could go back to that. Because he knows that Elena still loves Stefan. Knowing fully well that this would jeopardize his chances ,IF AT ALL, with Elena. Also , he brought her back the necklace because he knew it was a symbol of her unbreakable bond with Stefan. Quite selfless of him, I'd think. All of this pretty much shows that Damon loves both . Elena AND Stefan . And he has been trying to get his baby bro back ,not just for Elena but because he loves him too. Its another matter that Elena rejects both his offer to help her forget ,and the necklace.
I freaking laughed so much when Klaus literally stretched Elena's hand and taking her into the college. It was just like my parents are screaming on me just because I've failed in my exams😭😂❤🔥
The worst thing about Damon is actually SOME of his crazy fans. They have bullied reactors into quitting posting reactions because they were critical of Damon.
Have you all tried Paul & Ian's Brother's Bond Bourbon in real life? They're still best friends & started their own bourbon company in 2020 & its been super successful 🥃🥃
I had forgotten that Damon promised to never leave Elena in this one- it makes me even more bitter about a certain someone (left unnamed for spoiler reasons) trying to later force him to leave her and that character's fans treating them as noble. As to Bryce wondering why Vicki is treated as the "bad" ghost with a darkness- as we see in this episode, she's in contact with the Original Witch. I'm not saying the Original Witch is necessarily evil, but her first communication with any of the Mystic Falls Gang is to say that Elena needs to die- which runs contrary to our protagonists' motivations, never mind that it's a lie on top that would have permanently killed not just Elena, but Tyler. At this point, the Witch is very much proof that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not necessarily true.
This episode is DRAMA. I love Klaus, he makes people attack their loved ones and threatens or offs everyone in sight, and then feels lonely because no one likes him ROFL
Realistically, Klaus would've still killed Damon there, but plot armor lol. ESPECIALLY AFTER NAME DROPPING Mikeal, he would kill anyone who knew about him. Damon constantly tries to prove that he wouldn't do the things for Katherine like he does for Elena, but he literally died for her and spent 150yrs obsessed with her trying to open the tomb. Strong episode for Stelena actually despite the ending. Just goes to show how much Stefan truly loves Elena. He sacrificed his relationship with her and his life for Damon, just for him to spend all this time still trying to get into Elena's pants.
i think that was the only time matt had something close to an interesting arc, when he almost died just to see vicki it made me cry a little ngl, just wish they went further with that plot
This ghost stuff is goofy ****I'm literally sitting here hand on temple, shaking my head watching Matt jump in a pool with weights tied to him. Like WTF AM I WATCHING RIGHT NOW??????😂😂😂😂😂😂
Seriously ? Do you want Delena fans over to rewind all over the show where Damon did selfless things for Elena and Stefan did selfish things ? He did less immediately obvious things, less in-your-face, but he simply doesn't like to have an audience for his selfless acts, unlike Stefan. SLIGHT SPOILER Stefan is no better than Damon, In just a few episodes Stefan is going to prove that (just in a few episodes...), he's going to be a threat to Elena and her close ones many times during and after that.... The only thing I can't deny is the show's ending, obviously.
@@tarukaja8stefan is better than damon in that sense. don’t even try. SPOILER whatever he does, he does with humanity off or when he’s just off the bender of his humanity being off. whatever damon does is out of his own will and desire. stefan isn’t like damon. and you say he’s going to be a threat to her as if he wants to be or as if he’s doing so intentionally. context is important.
I love the moment where damon said, I’ll promise. I’ll never leave you again.” To elena, it was so sweet, and showed how much he loves her. I love how relieved Elena was when she heard damon’s words. They trust each other and have such a deep connection. I also loved how Damon rescued elena from the hospital and carried her home. he is a true hero, always saving Elena every time she's in trouble. Damon’s growth is so beautiful to watch develop in the show so far. delena moments never fail to make me smile every time.
Meanwhile Stefan is fighting compulsion for Elena gave his life for his brother and his gf and brother are making soul ties …..I love Damon but not so much delena
Actually while Damon does do bad things, he is usually up front and honest about his actions and doesn’t make excuses for himself, so I think he basically keeps his word. I think Damon loves Elena every bit as much as Stefan does, and while he and Elena have been thrown together in their quest to bring Stefan home, Damon has not been taking advantage of Stefan’s absence by making a move on Elena. The whole situation is beyond messed up, but I believe as much as Stefan is not the villain here, Damon isn’t either.
@@leeanngouttiere9077 I agree. If there’s one thing that everyone can agree on, is that damon is trustworthy, especially when it comes to saving Elena’s life. He will never turn her back on her no matter what. He’s also reliable when it matters when they come up with plans to stop the bad guys too. He’s developed and changed so much from season 1, I love watching his progress. He’s not the villain anymore, I consider him more of an anti-hero.
@@leeanngouttiere9077 "He has not made moves on Elena"?... What? are you not remembering the early episodes of the season, or literally a couple of episodes ago with his whole speech about how Elena has to consider what he has done for her and her feelings for him while Stefan is away; or how he (once again) keeps breaking into her room and getting into bed with her... Not to mention the fact that he has been making moves on Elena since day 1 of the show (showing up naked to her, invading her personal space, going thru her underwear, and, oh, literally attempting to kiss her twice already and one of in one of those occasions he literally forced himself on her, and that was, in the shows time, just a few months ago) Also, this idea that Damon doesn't make excuses for himself is a little bit of a weak argument, because he does excuse himself... What he actually doesn't do it's say that anything he does is morally right, but he 100% excuses and defends his actions... He has always defended his actions with the "I'm a vampire, this is what I do" argument... he doesn't say it is morally right, but he 100% says that it is the way he is supposed to behave... He has never said that what he did to Caroline or Vicky or Andie was wrong, in fact, he excuses it as "something that vampires do"; same with most of the killing that he does and the hurt he inflicts on others... Like i said, Damon doesn't say that it's morally correct, but he often says that he is right in doing what he is doing because that's what "a vampire is supposed to do"
Klaus Is just a vampire in the books. The books and show are drastically different. The majority of what happens in the show doesn't happen in the books
@@yasminemixon9340 That, about it being completely diffrent than the books, I knew besides the fact that he is only a vamp. Cool good to know! But was I right about Care being a werewolf and not a vamp in the books?
@@Choicesstorieslover17 Book spoilers: It has been a long time since I read the books, so maybe? I remember they had another friend named Meredith, Bonnie was of Celtic druid ancestry, instead of Salem witch ancestry, I think? Instead of Jeremy, there was a little kid sister of Elena's. I think Elena goes from human to vamp to dead to ghost to angel (but like a baby angel, so she has to relearn everything from scratch) and Stefan is creepily dating her while simultaneously raising her from mental/emotional infancy. Then, there are sentient pine needle demons living in the trees that start attacking people who are trapped in a car after an accident? In other words, the books are really messed up and that's about where I stopped reading them entirely 😅🙈
@@Choicesstorieslover17 omg right!? It makes me so mad that the author (L.J.Smith) invested time in that crap when she also has a legit amazing series called Night World that she never bothered writing the final book for 😭 how ppl feel about A Song of Ice and Fire not being finished, is how I feel about Night World. And yet instead we get tree demons 😅😭🤷 no thanks! Also the book that made me stop reading the series is called "The Vampire Diaries - The Return: Nightfall" And I just looked at the wiki to refresh my memory, it was even weirder than I remembered and now I wanna bleach my brain 🤣😭
and it was here that the series proved that stefan and elena are the greatest love story on tvd, the ONLY thing stronger than bloodlust was his love for her. imagine having a couple who fight for each other to the point of resisting the compulsion of an original vampire and still thinking that any scene with Delena is better than that.
@@MZBUBLEZUDIGSpoilers. . . . . Elena can’t help who she loves especially considerating that she know him first and was more compelled towards him that Stefan and Stefan was for her a safe end, yes she still love him but I don’t think she love him as one endgame ship completly, later in this season we find out that Elena was more into Stefan for the fact that she will not lose him bc he is inmortal so it was not the same that she think about Damon in their first meeting bc her parents was not dead yet and she feel genuine good alround him and compelling to forget was the reason why she didn’t remember but in the same episode she was talking with her parents about why Matt was not the right call and most of that was bc Matt was very boring as an boyfriend to Elena and wasn’t compelling and it will have been Damon if she didn’t forget or at least recall her feeling or how she felt alround him in the first interaction, so I will not say that Delena fans are deliusional when they show itself it’s shows thing like that, and especially when the show decide to make a love triangule about it and in the end delena are endgame, it will be delusional being saying that if in the show Stefan and Elena are endgame and delena fans are saying that then it will be dilusional, I don’t have any reason why to call a stelena shipper delusional, I don’t know why you think you should, in any case the writters are delusional bc they did the storyline, fans or people watching just go with it, if they show us why Elena feel better with Damon or why she chose Damon we just go with it, for examples The Originals in their tv show, did you really think that any of the Mikaelson deserve any redemption if we go with logic? Of course not but as a fan of the characters we just go with it, so it’s not delusional bc if we really go that deep then you also should say that Stefan is also not a good option to her, he had already taken so many lives by this point and not all of them by humanity switch, so if we really go into it, the Salvatore’s are neither good for her, Matt or some other human should be way better option for her than the Salvatore’s or almost any vampires in the show
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Stefan with his humanity off is basically just Paul Wesley, he’s a menace and so funny 😂
Paul was fr just playing himself when he was no humanity Stefan and ***** 💀
This!! 😆
damon saying he wouldn’t have done that for kathrine is so funny like he didn’t spend 150 years doing everything he could to open the tomb
Right? So glad someone caught that 😂
It was a act... to think of it... damon knew Kathrine would never let stefen find happiness without her... so he brought her back just to get in the way with stefen and elena
Literally he would have
he literally died for her lmaoo
Yeah I’m Delena all the way but he so would have at his height of love for Katherine. Damon would do anything for the woman he loves.
This is one of my favourite episodes of the season simply because it’s Klaus and Rebekah terrorising the Mystic Falls gang for like 40 minutes straight 😭😭😭
just those super ancient beings beefing with a couple of teenagers lmaoo
“Why is that doppelgänger b**** wearing my necklace?” Is truly one of the best lines of the series. Really up there with “hello John, Goodbye John”
Stefan is GOATED for fighting Klaus’s compulsion. Not only to bite Elena, but he had to specifically be compelled to turn his humanity off after fighting Klaus’s order to do it twice.
he got the power of PLOT lmao..
@@Droidd1993 yup😅
@@Droidd1993the power of love. We just saw Bill Forbes do something similar the previous episode with compulsion
I’m so proud of him
@@packedentertainment2866 very true but I believe bill Forbes could resist compulsion based on years of hypnosis training. I’m sure he confirmed it or he does confirm it at somepoint.
klaus is psychotic but he's so charismatic and funny i cant help but love him plsssss🤭🤭
That’s crazy. I’m right there with ya😂🙂↔️
"The only thing stronger than your craving for blood is your love for this one girl" is one of my favourite quotes ever. Stefan fought right until the end so NO ONE can say that he doesn't love Elena. He literally had to be FORCEFULLY compelled by the strongest vampire/only hybrid in existence to turn his humanity off so he would feed on Elena. Again, Paul Wesley's acting is absolutely incredible. This remains one of my absolute favourite Stelena moments and one of the best episodes of the show.
Also, can we stop the Matt hate train and appreciate what he did? If he hadn't, Klaus would have without a doubt killed Elena. And yeah, he wanted to see his sister too but who wouldn't? The way he did it was just a little extreme 😂
That scene will always remind me why I'm team Stelena. And you're right about Paul's acting. He portrays the humanity switch so well. The whole casting of this show is a 10/10
That is the reason I have and will always be team Stelena❤ Also I never understood Matt hate either 😂
Idk. Matt put the responsibility for his survival on Bonnie when he didn't have to. That's super shitty towards her, imagine if he had died it would have been horrible for her :(
Paul Wesley acting was so good in this ep
When Stef was fighting the compulsion...One of the reason why he will always be my favoritre brother!
Exactly idk how anyone can choose Damon over Stefan
Cause Damon is The Better Man
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfhe's not, not a better man not a better brother not a better friend
@@MZBUBLEZUDIG Thank you! Just Ignore the other idiots the replied here 😂
@@marc_27 Damon doesn’t talk bad about Stefan, Damon has way more friends than Stefan does = Better Man…
"The only thing stronger than yur lust for blood is your love for this one girl". Yep, even big bad Klaus sees it
i hate how it’s stefan who has to suffer. we forget stefan’s only here for DAMON. and it’s almost never his fault when his humanity gets turned off. yet he has to deal with the consequences of what comes with it. and he’s the character with the most guilt over the pain he causes :(
And Damon got his werewolf bite trying to save Caroline and Tyler and Elena from Klaus and his silly sacrifice. And I recall just a few episodes ago, Damon offered himself up to Klaus as a replacement for Stefan, but Klaus had too much of a man crush on Stefan and was nostalgic about all the evil fun Klaus and Stefan had together back in the day. Yes, Stefan is in this mess because of his love for Damon, but Damon is trying to make it right because he loves his brother too. Sorry, I just like both characters, and the fact they each have good and bad qualities makes them more interesting. I have a hard time picking one over the other..
@@leeanngouttiere9077 yea damon loves his brother so much that he’s constantly flirting with his girl while he’s gone 😭 and damon was only trying to save caroline and tyler because HE fucked up. damon offering himself up isn’t some noble act just basic decency. he literally says to elena “ before i go to hell trying to being my brother back for you. i want u to remeber how u felt when he was gone “ like dude you should be fighting to get ur brother back because u love him. not bc elena does. and STOP TRYING TO GET IN HIS GF PANTS.
Not sure how Maddox taking Caroline and Tyler for the sacrifice had anything to do with Damon. And Damon had been tracking Stefan all summer without telling Elena and keeping his distance from her. Yeah, he loves his brother. I guess we just disagree on this.
@@lilly50821You are wrong, Damon isn’t the reason that Caroline and Tyler were be taken wym by that (In any case he is the reason that Jenna was taken since he already save Tylwr and Caroline and Klaus had Jules so he needed only a vampire and use Jenna for that) but actually Damon have nothing to do with Caroline and Tyler being the sacrifies, he just save them not because he own them something so yes that was a good thing
@@lilly50821 (and the other Stefan apologists)
SPOILERS
I want to start by saying that I love Stefan's character, but Elena is NOT Stefan's girl. He does not have ownership on her life. I'm tired of having to repeat that Stefan literally Broke up with Elena during episode 3 (I don't want to see you, I don't want to be with you, etc...) and I don't want to hear that it was not his fault. The fact is that Elena and him are NOT together at this point.
Furthermore, whether Stefan is in his ""ripper mode"" or NOT in (meaning it will be the same way after Klaus gives him his freedom to act back) he is going to treat people around him like shit, and mentally torture/threaten Elena's life during episode 11, giving her the immensely traumatic experience of being led to her death on the SAME bridge her parents died.
Stefan also started later in the season to go on a selfish and childish revenge path over Klaus, threatening everyone's safety, culminating in Jeremy being killed by Klaus who will want to send him a message. He clearly values his revenge over Elena, her friends, and his supposed being a "better man than Damon". Stefan has NO respect for his brother (even though he saved his life, so yeah, he has respect for his brother's life, but not in Damon Salvatore). It can be seen when he repeatedly treats him like shit all the way between season 3 to , especially season 4.
He's always acting as if Damon doesn't deserve anything or is an extremely bad person, even though Damon has just been handling him in a selfish-rampage mode for 70+ years. and Damon acting normal - mostly - and was just wanting to be with his brother until around 50 years ago when Damon finally turned it off, with Enzo).
Just a few episodes ago Stefan killed Andie (which distraught Damon, since he had no one and enjoyed her company, even if she was compelled to shut up), and I didn't hear Stefan fans say anything about that => Stefan is always excused for his heinous acts. There's always an "excuse". The dude killed tens of thousands of people as a ripper over the years and never made an effort to get used to drinking human blood (little by little) except for a few measly weeks... which condemned thousands of people to die by his teeth whenever he went off the wagon. He is NOT better than Damon. However, I want to say that he IS a good person, and very selfless when he wants also, especially at the end of the show where he shows his best self.
Paul Wesley's acting in this episode was on another level, Stefan fought so hard for Elena even willing to end his own life just to not hurt her. This episode was so good, one of my favorites this season.
Tyler being a hybrid when he got introduced at the beginning of the show wasn’t something I think anyone could predict at least he’s more interesting now
years later and this is still one of the best TVD episodes.
This episode is iconic
STELENNNAAAAAA. i just feel so bad for stefan. he truly loves elena. yet everything keeps pulling them apart.
thats why stefan will be always superior, his love is pure af
LOL
Damon's a loser dating his bro ex... 😂😂😂
@@cognacyang9342literally I agree
why i was always team stefan
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"TURN IT OFF!"
My absolute fav scene in the entire series!
I'll never forget the first time i watched it, the intense emotions, and so many different emotions all at once. Sent chills through my whole body.
Paul’s acting deserves a special mention in this episode. Same goes for Joseph but that’s damn near every episode for him.
Matt was so overlooked in this she’s show, he said let me unalive myself to get some attention.
10:55 Elena got slapped like there was no tomorrow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not okay to laugh🙄
@@gitanastanciauskaite3893 it was hilarious though
@@packedentertainment2866 How......
@@gitanastanciauskaite3893 I guess comedy is subjective …
@@packedentertainment2866 You don't even have a sense of humor so.... :)
I love no humanity Stefan, he's so sarcastic and iconic hahaha
5:40 I just love the collective oohs that Bryce, zuff, and rob gave when damon rejected Katherine by saying, "the truth is, you just don't do it for my anymore." damon pushing Katherine's advances away, amuses me every time. Klaus slapping Elena is so messed up omg, I feel so bad for Elena, she literally almost got killed by Stefan, even though he was compelled to, tortured by Rebekah and almost got killed by Klaus again. she's been through so much in this episode omg.
Thank you ! And she's going to go through much more during the whole season :(. Im happy to see people who notice Elena has to go through really horrible stuff, it's rare.
That conversation in the gym when the clock is running, that's some of Paul's BEST Stefan work. I know the first time around I watched the show I did not really appreciate this episode. But somewhere along the road I found myself realizing it's one of the best episodes, surely of the season at least. There's so much in it.
One, I think this is some of the sexiest you'll see of Klaus. The smile on his face after he kills Tyler... ❤️💦💀⚰️ And what gives him his big bad villain juice for me in this episode requires remembering something Rose said in season 2 which I think a lot of people forget. SHE SAYS "there's no switch you can turn. Sure when you're a newbie but after a couple of hundred years… you just have to pretend". So when Klaus compels Stefan to turn his emotion off, it is.... A spanking. It's something that Klaus has evolved so far beyond. It's the kind of punishment you enact on a child, yet he likes to think of Stefan as a friend. It's an action I think about a lot when I think of the number one personality adjective for Klaus, which over the years of rewatching I've long seen that "insecure" fits the best. And that doesn't make him any less of a real villainy villain. It's a perfect episode to look around and see the evidence of the bad he can bring.
Stefan was always my favorite
12:00 i’ve never noticed that dana was a recurring character😭
I watched this episode live & lemme tell you, I was on the edge of my seat for the entire hour!!!! The commercial breaks were testing my sanity. The tl on twitter was ON FIRE!!! Good times
“Always something convenient with Bonnie, right” - Bryce, speaking for us all 🙌
My favorite episodes of the session love how sefan fight for elena. That crazy
Poor, Elena lol people be hating on her and I admit, she gets on my nerves sometimes, but she's a literal teenager and these grown ass vamps be taking advantage of her 😂
Exactly! Caroline gets on my nerves way more times than Elena and people doesn’t even say a word when it happen but with Elena you see the hate in every video. From all the things that I see in the show people what Caroline did in season 5 is the most fucked thing that I see in the show and she taking that easy and that fandom is more absurd, and then I laugh that a lot of the same people who defend her are the same that hate Damon and don’t try to recognize any redemption that the character have had but they pray Caroline lol (at least Bonnie is way more constant character and way more forward in her actions, her annoying time was in season 1 but after that Bonnie is great
@@JeanPierre-hb9mv Jean-Pierre, t'es le meilleur !
Wow ! Even rarer to get Caroline-realists than no- Elena-haters. 10/10 comment, everything is right !
@@tarukaja8 did you know that I’m learning English? I try to understand your comment but I can’t, maybe you misspell some thing but I really didn’t get what you was saying
@@JeanPierre-hb9mv Sorry ! I used made-up expressions (made up with understandable words, but it's okay...).
What I meant is that I completely agree with you. It's very rare to read comments of people who are realistic about Caroline (who admit that she can be very annoying and selfish), even rarer than reading comments about people who don't hate Elena. And I was thanking you for that comment ;).
V@@tarukaja8 Right ?
I can never understand the Elena hate either.
I mean ,all are going on and on about poor Stefan in this episode. And no thought about what that poor girl is made to undergo ????
Seriouly ????
And it makes me mad that Stefan fans say he's much too good for her and that she doesnt deserve him. 🙄🙄
He's lucky that she still loved him enough after everything he put her through , starting with how he struck up a friendship with her under false pretenses
Could never stand Caroline either.
She gets worse as the seasons progress.
Always interfering and judgemental.
A vampire who hunts other vampires? Should be interesting indeed to see where that goes.
Stefan’s love for elena is so pure
She doesn’t deserve him!!
If u guys still don’t realise this no point in watching further
Btw paul wesley acting in this episode 👏
You said it!!! people are just blind
Literally idk how ppl can choose delena over stelena
Stefan gave his life for Elena meanwhile Elena is getting cozy with his brother 😭
@@MZBUBLEZUDIG I know it pisses me off like he sacrificed so much because of her and in the end all they gave him is death
Agree with you. I always say that Elena doesn't deserve Stefan. Damon and her deserve each other.
Stefan Supremacy 🧎🏽♀️
Yes we love stef🧎🏽♀️I’m ready to argue with all the delena fans and stefan haters 🤺
Ok let’s go..the only thing supreme about Stefan is how syco he is, he literally rips people apart and puts them back together..and let’s not forget killing children on Christmas Eve..smh
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfya your right he was a psycho I mean his is a vampire but as we seen he takes accountability and feels the guilt he learned that he is a I guess blood addict and he doesn’t drink human blood anymore not excusing his action because that was terrible and psychotic but he’s changed he had his character development already just like Damon had his in the middle of the show Stefan had his been many decades ago
"why are they in the dark?". I kid you not I asked myself that question every time I've seen this episode (a lot). And just now it clicked that it's because Matt was creeping up on the classroom so they probably thought it was a staff member coming to bust them and hid. 😅😂
Stefan is in his paul skin lol
Stefan will always be the superior brother.
To watch this show for the first time again 😭 this episode is such a turning point ugh I’m so excited
this is legit my favorite tvd episode ever! so excited!
I think Rob has succumbed to some pier pressure from the Stefan fans
klaus is so fucking him bro it’s insane
I just love Stefan. And Elena is so annoying like girl Stefan done gave everything for you and she still complain how could you look at his brother got comfort …
so what about damon?
We get it: You don't like Elena, but You are the only one, so byeeeee
@@gitanastanciauskaite3893I didn’t say I didn’t like her she’s just annoying at time when she get mad at Stefan for certain things he literally does to save her life
@@gitanastanciauskaite3893and many ppl don’t like Elena lol
@@siaahale13I love Damon too I just love Stefan more
watching this makes me so excited for s4 lol
This is one of my favorite episodes of the entire series
This was another great plan from the witches!
They told him that in order to break the hybrid curse so he can be both a vampire and a werewolf he has to make that ritual: kill a vampire, kill a werewolf, destroy the moonstone and kill the doppelgänger by drinking her blood but here was the trap!
Klaus didn’t had to kill the doppelgänger, he had just to drink from her blood because he would need the blood of the doppelgänger to create his hybrids!
The witches told him that lie so when he kills the doppelgänger he wouldn’t be able to create more Hybrids!
The blood of the doppelgänger was the key for his hybrids to survive the transition but the witches lied telling him that killing the doppelgänger was part of the ritual to break the curse!
I think he did have to kill but if she dies he could’ve make hybrids. That was the fail safe. John giving his love for Elena worked in klaus favor.
I actually love no humanity Stefan over regular Stefan 😂😂 Always have lol.
Zuff I know you're chomping at the bit for Delena but show some compassion and respect for Stefan. He fought that compulsion so hard. And being a ripper is bad enough. But being one with your humanity turned off? 😞 If he ever is able to turn it back on, imagine his unbelievable guilt.
He is just biased towards Dmon. Dont expect him to ever respect Stefan
It’s ok Zuff I think Stefan is a self righteous hypocrite
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfhow the fuck is Stefan a hypocrite? And why is that somehow worse than all the fucked up things Damon has done? You damon stans are insufferable 🙄
@@DellaMcgee-mc4rfhow is Stefan a hypocrite?? And why is that somehow worse than all the fucked up shit Damon has done?? You damon stans are insufferable 🙄
@@ironisa imo Damon is real and Stefan is fake…from the very beginning of the show Stefan painted Damon as a Monster,but not telling anyone he used to be a monster too ( and had wiped out a whole village women and children) but because Stefan cries and says I’m sorry he always gets a pass..he never volunteered the truth about himself until he got caught and had to…HYPOCRITE…
Fun fact: there’s people who ship Jeremy with Katherine 💀
How weird would it be for your girlfriend to be a literal copy of your sister
@@samuel-nq6he extremely weird
That is messed up!
There's also people who ship Klaus with Rebekah 🤷
@@sorchamiana no
I can’t help myself when these reactions come out I’m staying up to watch this rn cuz I love the tvd reactions so much!
One of my favorite episodes ❤
Thank you the great reaction to one of my favourite episodes everrrr
12:51 this line is iconic. One of the best lines of the whole series
They did a really good job with Matt’s character because it would be depressing af to loose all your close friends and your sister and mom pretty much, like yea he still has his friends around at times but in season 1 Matt was always seen hanging out with someone mostly Tyler and he lost that
One of my top 3 favorite episodes of all 8 seasons!!
Poor Elena....feel terrible for her.
She went through soo much in this episode.
That too , not very long after being literally sacrificed in the ritual last season.
This episode is way crazier than I remember.
Elena being used as a blood bag is messed up
in my opinion, being a hybrid is the best thing that happened to Tyler
I think I had that exact phone when I was younger and it does have touch screen!
I tried to save this one until you guys posted the next because I knew what was gonna happen. I couldn’t help myself though these TVD reactions are self care lol
OMG so glad I discovered you guys ! Im so exited for you to watch the rest AND then The Originals !!
I just found out that Steven R. McQueen (Jeremy), his second cousin, is Enrique Iglesias!!!
Who knew... not me. 😦
Really? Never heard that in 15 years. Steven is technically Hollywood royalty with who his grandfather was as a famous actor.
@@Alicia-u5f8f Yes!
I fucking loved this episode and I loved where they took Tyler and (separately) the story with the Originals. Idk s3 is just absolutely goated
That scene in the end ,with Damon and Elena....the way she looks at him !!!!
What is often criminally overlooked, is that Damon offers to compel Elena's bad memories of Stefan away....so that she would never remember the terrible things Stefan did to her here or indeed any of his ripper activities ,so that all she would remember would be the nice Stefan of their early relationship. And she could go back to that. Because he knows that Elena still loves Stefan.
Knowing fully well that this would jeopardize his chances ,IF AT ALL, with Elena.
Also , he brought her back the necklace because he knew it was a symbol of her unbreakable bond with Stefan.
Quite selfless of him, I'd think.
All of this pretty much shows that Damon loves both . Elena AND Stefan . And he has been trying to get his baby bro back ,not just for Elena but because he loves him too.
Its another matter that Elena rejects both his offer to help her forget ,and the necklace.
I‘m calling it now, 3x11 might me my fav ep in this season
This is my favorite all-time episode besides the sacrifice where Jenna died
its about to go down
Side note, Klaus looked so hot this episode
Mikael is here… 👀
Delena and Stelena were cute this episode, and Klaus is aways a menace (and I love it).
This season is so good, keep going guys. ❤
I freaking laughed so much when Klaus literally stretched Elena's hand and taking her into the college. It was just like my parents are screaming on me just because I've failed in my exams😭😂❤🔥
This is one of those episodes ......can't wait to watch. (grin)
The worst thing about Damon is actually SOME of his crazy fans. They have bullied reactors into quitting posting reactions because they were critical of Damon.
Have you all tried Paul & Ian's Brother's Bond Bourbon in real life? They're still best friends & started their own bourbon company in 2020 & its been super successful 🥃🥃
Thank you, Bryce! Thank you, Rob! Thank you, Zuff! 🧛♀ John Behring directed this episode.
u guys making fun of the way jeremy talks is always so funny lmao
13:50 absolutely ❤️🔥💙
this is my favorite episode of the whole show🤩
the way you can tell which ship is endgame and which one isn't by these comment sections lol
one of the best episodes of tvd… also can’t wait for you guys to see the storyline with the Original Family
It’s just going to get better, then the originals is just perfection too. Klaus is the best
The best stefan to come
I had forgotten that Damon promised to never leave Elena in this one- it makes me even more bitter about a certain someone (left unnamed for spoiler reasons) trying to later force him to leave her and that character's fans treating them as noble.
As to Bryce wondering why Vicki is treated as the "bad" ghost with a darkness- as we see in this episode, she's in contact with the Original Witch. I'm not saying the Original Witch is necessarily evil, but her first communication with any of the Mystic Falls Gang is to say that Elena needs to die- which runs contrary to our protagonists' motivations, never mind that it's a lie on top that would have permanently killed not just Elena, but Tyler. At this point, the Witch is very much proof that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not necessarily true.
You guys should watch pretty little liars or gossip girl
This episode is DRAMA.
I love Klaus, he makes people attack their loved ones and threatens or offs everyone in sight, and then feels lonely because no one likes him ROFL
Realistically, Klaus would've still killed Damon there, but plot armor lol. ESPECIALLY AFTER NAME DROPPING Mikeal, he would kill anyone who knew about him.
Damon constantly tries to prove that he wouldn't do the things for Katherine like he does for Elena, but he literally died for her and spent 150yrs obsessed with her trying to open the tomb.
Strong episode for Stelena actually despite the ending. Just goes to show how much Stefan truly loves Elena. He sacrificed his relationship with her and his life for Damon, just for him to spend all this time still trying to get into Elena's pants.
Time for Paul Wesley to be Paul Wesley, no humanity Stefan 💀
i think that was the only time matt had something close to an interesting arc, when he almost died just to see vicki it made me cry a little ngl, just wish they went further with that plot
You guys are all so hot. But Bryce: I cook, I clean, I shut up.
This ghost stuff is goofy
****I'm literally sitting here hand on temple, shaking my head watching Matt jump in a pool with weights tied to him. Like WTF AM I WATCHING RIGHT NOW??????😂😂😂😂😂😂
off topic but I cannot wait for yall to react to the originals
you guys this one is wildddd 🤣🤣 one of my fav fav
Damon could NEVER do this for Elena, ever!
Seriously ? Do you want Delena fans over to rewind all over the show where Damon did selfless things for Elena and Stefan did selfish things ? He did less immediately obvious things, less in-your-face, but he simply doesn't like to have an audience for his selfless acts, unlike Stefan.
SLIGHT SPOILER
Stefan is no better than Damon, In just a few episodes Stefan is going to prove that (just in a few episodes...), he's going to be a threat to Elena and her close ones many times during and after that.... The only thing I can't deny is the show's ending, obviously.
@@tarukaja8stefan is better than damon in that sense. don’t even try.
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whatever he does, he does with humanity off or when he’s just off the bender of his humanity being off. whatever damon does is out of his own will and desire. stefan isn’t like damon. and you say he’s going to be a threat to her as if he wants to be or as if he’s doing so intentionally. context is important.
9:43 I love this line BHAHAHAHAHA
My Favorite episode
Bros getting so suspicious about this episode and the phone lmaoo
I love the moment where damon said, I’ll promise. I’ll never leave you again.” To elena, it was so sweet, and showed how much he loves her. I love how relieved Elena was when she heard damon’s words. They trust each other and have such a deep connection. I also loved how Damon rescued elena from the hospital and carried her home. he is a true hero, always saving Elena every time she's in trouble. Damon’s growth is so beautiful to watch develop in the show so far. delena moments never fail to make me smile every time.
I mean it's no spoiler that he will. Damon's word isn't really worth much. I appreciate that he's such a smart character. But trusting him..
Meanwhile Stefan is fighting compulsion for Elena gave his life for his brother and his gf and brother are making soul ties …..I love Damon but not so much delena
Actually while Damon does do bad things, he is usually up front and honest about his actions and doesn’t make excuses for himself, so I think he basically keeps his word. I think Damon loves Elena every bit as much as Stefan does, and while he and Elena have been thrown together in their quest to bring Stefan home, Damon has not been taking advantage of Stefan’s absence by making a move on Elena. The whole situation is beyond messed up, but I believe as much as Stefan is not the villain here, Damon isn’t either.
@@leeanngouttiere9077 I agree. If there’s one thing that everyone can agree on, is that damon is trustworthy, especially when it comes to saving Elena’s life. He will never turn her back on her no matter what. He’s also reliable when it matters when they come up with plans to stop the bad guys too. He’s developed and changed so much from season 1, I love watching his progress. He’s not the villain anymore, I consider him more of an anti-hero.
@@leeanngouttiere9077 "He has not made moves on Elena"?... What? are you not remembering the early episodes of the season, or literally a couple of episodes ago with his whole speech about how Elena has to consider what he has done for her and her feelings for him while Stefan is away; or how he (once again) keeps breaking into her room and getting into bed with her... Not to mention the fact that he has been making moves on Elena since day 1 of the show (showing up naked to her, invading her personal space, going thru her underwear, and, oh, literally attempting to kiss her twice already and one of in one of those occasions he literally forced himself on her, and that was, in the shows time, just a few months ago)
Also, this idea that Damon doesn't make excuses for himself is a little bit of a weak argument, because he does excuse himself... What he actually doesn't do it's say that anything he does is morally right, but he 100% excuses and defends his actions... He has always defended his actions with the "I'm a vampire, this is what I do" argument... he doesn't say it is morally right, but he 100% says that it is the way he is supposed to behave... He has never said that what he did to Caroline or Vicky or Andie was wrong, in fact, he excuses it as "something that vampires do"; same with most of the killing that he does and the hurt he inflicts on others... Like i said, Damon doesn't say that it's morally correct, but he often says that he is right in doing what he is doing because that's what "a vampire is supposed to do"
I need yall to react to blades of glory 😭
Matt gives Elena a run for her money as a reckless human. I guess we sometimes need him 😅
But I stand by my assessment that he's mostly useless.
I chould be wrong but I got told Care was Klaus' first Hybrid in the books since she is a werewolf in the books!
Klaus Is just a vampire in the books. The books and show are drastically different. The majority of what happens in the show doesn't happen in the books
@@yasminemixon9340 That, about it being completely diffrent than the books, I knew besides the fact that he is only a vamp. Cool good to know! But was I right about Care being a werewolf and not a vamp in the books?
@@Choicesstorieslover17
Book spoilers:
It has been a long time since I read the books, so maybe?
I remember they had another friend named Meredith, Bonnie was of Celtic druid ancestry, instead of Salem witch ancestry, I think?
Instead of Jeremy, there was a little kid sister of Elena's.
I think Elena goes from human to vamp to dead to ghost to angel (but like a baby angel, so she has to relearn everything from scratch) and Stefan is creepily dating her while simultaneously raising her from mental/emotional infancy.
Then, there are sentient pine needle demons living in the trees that start attacking people who are trapped in a car after an accident?
In other words, the books are really messed up and that's about where I stopped reading them entirely 😅🙈
@@sorchamiana wtf? That all seems messed up 😂 I'll pass!
@@Choicesstorieslover17 omg right!?
It makes me so mad that the author (L.J.Smith) invested time in that crap when she also has a legit amazing series called Night World that she never bothered writing the final book for 😭 how ppl feel about A Song of Ice and Fire not being finished, is how I feel about Night World. And yet instead we get tree demons 😅😭🤷 no thanks!
Also the book that made me stop reading the series is called "The Vampire Diaries - The Return: Nightfall"
And I just looked at the wiki to refresh my memory, it was even weirder than I remembered and now I wanna bleach my brain 🤣😭
and it was here that the series proved that stefan and elena are the greatest love story on tvd, the ONLY thing stronger than bloodlust was his love for her. imagine having a couple who fight for each other to the point of resisting the compulsion of an original vampire and still thinking that any scene with Delena is better than that.
Literally these delena fans are delusional Elena and Damon love is just weird bro that’s your brother gf Elena that’s your bf brother 😭
Stefan giving his life away for Elena and damn meanwhile Damon and Elena are getting cozy
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What you mean?😂 Damon do exactly the same in season 8 and with out Elena being alround (just her presence)
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Elena can’t help who she loves especially considerating that she know him first and was more compelled towards him that Stefan and Stefan was for her a safe end, yes she still love him but I don’t think she love him as one endgame ship completly, later in this season we find out that Elena was more into Stefan for the fact that she will not lose him bc he is inmortal so it was not the same that she think about Damon in their first meeting bc her parents was not dead yet and she feel genuine good alround him and compelling to forget was the reason why she didn’t remember but in the same episode she was talking with her parents about why Matt was not the right call and most of that was bc Matt was very boring as an boyfriend to Elena and wasn’t compelling and it will have been Damon if she didn’t forget or at least recall her feeling or how she felt alround him in the first interaction, so I will not say that Delena fans are deliusional when they show itself it’s shows thing like that, and especially when the show decide to make a love triangule about it and in the end delena are endgame, it will be delusional being saying that if in the show Stefan and Elena are endgame and delena fans are saying that then it will be dilusional, I don’t have any reason why to call a stelena shipper delusional, I don’t know why you think you should, in any case the writters are delusional bc they did the storyline, fans or people watching just go with it, if they show us why Elena feel better with Damon or why she chose Damon we just go with it, for examples The Originals in their tv show, did you really think that any of the Mikaelson deserve any redemption if we go with logic? Of course not but as a fan of the characters we just go with it, so it’s not delusional bc if we really go that deep then you also should say that Stefan is also not a good option to her, he had already taken so many lives by this point and not all of them by humanity switch, so if we really go into it, the Salvatore’s are neither good for her, Matt or some other human should be way better option for her than the Salvatore’s or almost any vampires in the show
But…Delena won every single award for 8years…clearly the greatest love story on tvd…with a way bigger fan base…