The Dangerous P1Harmony Sasaeng Group
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
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chapters:
intro - 0:00
disclaimers - 0:36
sasaeng definition - 1:24
Introducing P1Harmony - 2:27
S2SeobS2 - 5:54
P1H_podocookie (waffleconezero7) - 28:22
choierrys2 (and a million other names) - 37:39
justyes71 - 41:46
y0831ntak - 42:46
ppeu_1H - 45:08
keeho_kr - 48:32
dramamamama - 50:57
where are they today? - 1:10:41
outro (where i've been) - 1:13:21
please do not send hate to the people mentioned in the video, only report them to FNC or block them at max please. these people obviously need either help or a reality check.
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hi guys, i’ve been made aware that something has happened that is not and will not ever be okay nor tolerated. a user took time out of their day to summarize this video for the people who didn’t want to watch this video, and they started getting attacked and getting hate, and even getting a death threat over mentioning the user ppeu_1H. this user is a MINOR and only did something to help their community, and i feel the need to speak out about this because this all came from my video.
both this user and i, multiple times, called PP an alleged sasaeng, but that they follow and even TRAVELED with S2SeobS2, the Jongseob sasaeng who followed him while he was a minor. i mention this in PP’s section, that i came across them because they were interacting with S2. PP was with S2 while in Mexico, and was very disrespectful to MY country and people, which is why i called it out.
also, PP *STILL* follows S2, both of Podo’s accounts, and someone who is harassing the user who summarized this video, if that is not telling of who this person surrounds themself with, idk what to say. DO NOT send death threats or harass ANYONE, doing that makes you a coward.
i’m sorry for being so serious with this, but this has made me so sad and angry that something so traumatizing could come out of my video. if the user who made the thread is reading this, i am so sorry that this came out of this, you deserve none of this.
s2seobs2 is nutty as hell, and i feel so bad for jongseob. hes been in the industry since like 12 and didnt really have a chance at a normal childhood, and to be stalked on top of that? hes just a teenager, and i cant imagine how scary that must be
plus, shes gotta be decently grown to be buying these tickets n these flights, which makes it miles creepier
@@vio3070she likes mid 20s honestly and noona is usually used for girls over 20s
@@rxmz2386 creepy as hell for her to be doin all that. itd be creepy even if she was 18 too, but its even worse knowing shes older than most of the members ☠️
@@vio3070 this is kinda a vent but I've had to stop trying to find predebut or debut clips of seob from fan accs but it's all just grown women in the comments talking about how handsome he's gonna be in the future or how he's their bf literal grown women
@@rxmz2386 stop thats actually so gross, and ive seen the same thing. especially with ygtb like- why were 20-some yr old women obsessing over literal 14 year olds. crazy stuff. i hope kpop stans start calling out this behaviour, cuz its insane
I never realized how many businesses papa has 😭😭😭
I once watched a video on the lore of it all and it was pretty entertaining
@@jdwil91by whoo
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i went to a kpop concert before and stayed at the same hotel as the group and i was so WERIDED OUT by it. my aunt works at the hotel and so she hooked me and my family up at a pretty expensive hotel but i just felt so odd being there since i saw them coming and going, eating breakfast like 2 tables away from me. i felt i saw a few things i SHOULDNT have saw. it was one day and i just could never do that again because i felt i was invading privacy even tho i never went up and talked to them or even got near them. idk how these people can go to the same hotels every concert stop AND the same exact flights. i would feel uncomfortable and i could only imagine the idols
bro i would be so weirded out too omg i guess that’s why i’m so confused by the mindsets of these people
What group? Because i also saw a group when staying at a hotel while visiting for an event 😭 i felt uncomfortable only because i was a fan of them
I'D BE FREAKING OUT
If I ever saw a group in public I would literally avoid even looking in their direction for fear that I would make them feel uncomfortable LOLLL. Sasaengs scare tf out of me because I don’t understand that kind of person’s mindset.
You didn't do anything wrong. Although artists go through a lot of shit, you deserve to be in the same space as them and you respected their privacy.
p1harmony sasaengs are so weird especially soul and seob ones like why are u as a grown woman following young boys to their hotels and pools.....
Because it’s normalized for male idols to have strange women fetishize them but when a male fan does something normal people flip out
The not wanting to be perceived by your idols yet at the same time wanting them to notice you is so real. Like yes, I idolize them but it's like if they notice me it's scary?? I want to stay as far away from them and cheer them from afar. At the same time, I want to talk to them, but if this were to actually happen I would probably run away lol.
Exactly, it’s like when you’ve a crush on someone in middle school lol
the way i'm not even halfway through the video; i'm only at the S2 part abt the polaroids. yall i just KNOW piwon was SICK of her ass like HUH?
TOTALLY
When I attended a fansign in my home country of NZ there were a few fansites there idk if any of these people were them but you could kinda tell that p1h were not shocked to see them being there which is kinda sad. They should be excited to see more fans from around the world but they’re just continuously seeing the same people
mhmm i also went to p1 in auckland and lemme tell you a lot of the crowd did not seem like kiwis... they were all probably pushing 30 and it just seemed like they just wanted interactions and not really the whole enjoy music experience :// i had lots of fun at the concert but some of the ppl there js seemed off to me yk
I unfortunately had an encounter with the group in mexico city she was asking me to help them and I didn't mind cause I speak english and spanish but then once I helped her I'm 99% sure she talked shit about me to her group in korean.
as someone who has been to all of p1harmonys tours and to multiple stops and other events/fansigns, you start to get to know a lot of the regular fans. and these sasaengs are absolutely ridiculous. they are literally everywhere😭 i once had the justyes71 person send me a court defamation summons through TWITTER after i tweeted about how insane she was. i sat behind her and the intak sasaeng at many concerts and they were absolutely ridiculous. podocookie is so cordial and nice in person so when I had became friends her last year i thought nothing of it until i was made aware of how crazy she was!!!! s2seob was getting bashed on korean p1ece twitter because they loaned her so much money and she refused to pay her back. when i was on my way to la for p1harmonys jingle ball performances, i was unaware that these SAME sasaengs were at their gate and terminal because they had the same flight. i say all of this to say that they’re never going to stop doing this 😭 even when they get called out it fuels them even more
God that’s horrifying
How old would you say they were?? I'm so curious about what kind of person a sasaeng is.
literally a week older than jongseob & the fact someone has been stalking him for SO LONG when he JUST turned into an adult (legally) is so scary.
can't imagine wanting to channel ur creativity into a longterm career and having SOOO many of ur lines crossed by these grown humans....
As a kpop fan since 2nd gen, I don't understand these people at all. Like, I have no interested to know any of my faves. I don't actually know them, I only know what their idol persona looks like and that's it, no matter how special you think you are you're not their friend. Dudes just wanna work, get paid and go home, they don't deserve this shit.
I remember running into ppeu_1H in Nashville, it was my first ever kpop concert and the fact that P1won is my ult group to, I was so excited😭🤞 but then me and my friend went to go take photos next to the stage (before the concert started) and we saw her. She kept giving us dirty looks and continued to give us a hard time 😭 like bruh it was our first ever kpop concert whyd she have to screw it up like that
jesus, i’m so sorry that she gave y’all such a hard time, especially at your first ever kpop concert! i hope y’all had a fun time tho, outside of her weird behaviors
@@duckypato besides our interaction with her the concert was super fun, and we are hopeful P1won come back to Nashville
I went to colombia’s concert and it was dystopic seeing some of them there, obviously they stand out cause they’re asian but also because how secure where they around the members, like they had a privilage, and they had all the packages and Polaroid tickets, it’s really weird how they can follow them through continents, and seeing them in all concert videos, you really feel a superiority complex from them, especially in latam they look down on you a lot! Even when I was kind to one of them who was lost lol
im still not over the fact sis is older than the idol himself and still thinks it's okay to follow him around like do you not have things to do..
BABE WAKE UP!!!!!! DUCK UPLOADEDD!!!!
i never had much experience with sasaengs but now i feel like every concert i go to they’re so noticeable now?? like i remember during piwon’s chicago show last year there was this one girl who pushed people to get to the front & security had to get involved cause she tried to steal someone’s seats so she could be seen by the members. then that same girl tried to touch intak during high touch or something. and when i went to enhypen there was this huge group of girls speaking korean & running around all sneaky with big ass cameras😭
coming to explain ppeu's tweet! in advance im not 100% fluent in korean but i'll try to give an alternative translation with context!
"the interesting thing is when i told them [piwon] that i would be going to mexico their reactions were all different. taeyang [theo] told me not to go there alone and was worried, jiung just liked it [in the sense of he was happy to hear that shes going i suppose], keeho, because i was worried, told me that its all places where people live [probably in the sense of it not being as dangerous as ppeu makes it out to be since theres people living there and being safe too, his wording sounds rather indifferent] ㅋㅋㅋ after jiung came back [she doesnt state from where] i showed him my travel pictures and he said he likes that its romantic [MAJOR AUTHORS NOTE: romantic is not in the sense of love, but rather in the sense of being idealistic or dreamy, like when a scenery looks romantic] ha... romantic... i had a hard time calling it that [romantic] but a while ago i showed my friend the same pictures and she also called it romantic. so i asked him [jiung] if thats [whatever was on the travel pics] was also on his bucket list and he said yes. [the next part seems like its in retrospect of the trip] though it was also on my bucket list... honestly it wasnt romantic but it became a memory that i wont be able to forget in my life!"
basically throughout the whole tweet shes just sh!ttalking mexico... im so sorry for yall sending love from europe xx
the way all of them cut in front of the line for jingle ball la for piwon's village performance during soundcheck i saw their asses run to the main entrances with all their big ass camera's
Lowkey was not expecting you to straight up name drop them but I'm glad you did 💕💕 thank you for covering this topic
I agree that it'd be treated differently if the genders were reversed, but you'd be surprised at what kpop stans give a pass - i can only speak on twice but i assume many ggs have similar fans. Twice members were on their survival show as young as 15, and have had adult male fans in their twenties and up following them religiously ever since & to this day (nowadays the fandom is mostly female though). Some of these fans (not naming but iykyk....) are big name fans who are well known in the fandom, but nobody seems to care or see a problem with their behaviour. Grown adult men have followed twice since they were FIFTEEN, attending every single show, event, fansign etc all over the world, and very few people see how creepy this is. The people who do this are praised as "real fans". This is an obsession miles beyond these piwon sasaengs and as a young woman, if i were in twice's position i'd be deeply uncomfortable constantly seeing these men everywhere, and yet these dudes get a pass because of how much money they put in jype's pockets
^ not to directly compare or diminish the seriousness of the video's topic!! Just wanted to share as a reflection of the type of behaviour that's normalised in kpop (that very much shouldn't be)
oh yes there's some that have been following twice since debut, some are creepy
i definitely think a lot of fans let things slide that they absolutely shouldn’t, and the weird fanboys of Twice and other girl groups who have minors always get on my nerves, like that weird shark guy who followed Loona. the point i was trying to make was that more people call that out (from what i could see) when male fans are creepy and overstepping boundaries, than when female fans do it, i should’ve clarified that a whole lot better. thank you for your insight! it really made me look back on the tough times Twice and other girl groups have had
@@duckypato More people do not call them out just because they are women. Twice is significantly more popular that P1Harmony, so that comparison is unfair. Twice and Stray Kids who are under the same label constantly have breaches of security and both Stays and Onces call out improper fan behavior.
@@mayathedreamgirl1357 I don’t know? Maybe in terms of the company doing anything but at least online I feel the sentiment is more aimed towards women because on a regular basis we hear more about them, probably one of the weirdest stories I’ve heard is of the EXO sasaengs who cross dressed and shaved their heads to get into the men’s bathroom 😭
honestly the more famous a group is the more female fans they have which is strange to say but groups like Idle and ReVe have over 60% female fans
omg i remember when they were doing their north american stops i kept seeing something about a like 30+ year old intak saesang going around to like every single stop 😭
i met some of them in the Bogotá concert and they were so entitled and gave us dirty looks in line, they even skipped line to be closer in the front row
i noticed that the word 보냈다 or 보내다 kept being translated as "to see" but it actually means "to send" so when waffle(?) is saying "just be honest, did u see it" shes actually asking if she truthfully did send it 😊
i always wonder why these sasengs don’t get blacklisted or have charges pressed against them. there’s so much proof but yet they get away with stalking then minors and still stalking them. if someone could explain that would really help
Probably because it gives the company more money when they go to multiple concerts
Hi, I'm brazilian and I would like to add something about the prices you mentioned in 23:20. The half price thing is offered to students, due to a law we have here. In order for you to get one of those tickets, you have to prove you are a student with a specific document/identification. This is to say that this person most likely paid full price for tickets
not even finished with the video but ugh even just seeing this pop up in my recommended got me so annoyed like rn piwon is the only group i stan but in general sasaengs/obsessive and stalker "fans" are so aggravating like omg.. the lengths these ppl will go just to be beyond weird, disrespectful and inappropriate to these idols is so genuinely insane man 🚶♂🚶♂
as much as i love p1harmony, i would NEVER spend more than $7,000 on them. i wouldn't go past the $500 mark and that's pretty high too
like good for them, you have a lot of money! but damn girl what the hell do you think youre doing FOLLOWING THEM AROUND?! stalking is literally a federal crime and that's just for crossing state borders. theyre crossing COUNTRY borders
I’m not really a K-pop person (only just started getting into p1harmony) so I really appreciate you going back over things and making sure we understand what u mean and what’s going on, very helpful for me lol! Congrats on getting ur first yt paycheck, happy new year 💕✨
of course! thank you so much, and i hope you have a lot of fun listening to P1Harmony!
I have some friends who worked as staffs in one of the shows in Brazil and this sasaengs attended the concert too, they're exactly as said in the posts, my friends got a hard time trying to protect the boys from this crazy sasaengs.
I went to one of their Brazil concerts and they were all there, they got the first row numbers even though they arrived late af and luckily i was one of the firsts in the queue so even though they pushed people around i stood still and got to stay at my place. I also saw one of them communicating with Jiung during the soundcheck (like friends), which was kinda weird to me since they were being stalked by these girls, but who knows 🤷♀️
i'd recommend using papago translator instead of google translate! it's much more reliable and gives a more accurate translation, though the best translation you'll get is from fluent speakers. also just some notes - sometimes korean will omit pronouns if the subject is obvious which makes it a lot harder to translate word for word when not given proper context. so sometimes "me" or "he/she" is added when using a translator to give context, but it's not always correct
thank you! i used to use Papago, but since my computer is old it sometimes doesn’t run the site lol, but i’ll try to start using it!!
@@duckypatono problem! great video by the way 🫶
Actually google translate gives you word for word. Or at least it use to. People don't like it because it looks like jibberish....but is exactly what being said because of the sentence structure is different from english. That alone destroys some of their Korean fetishizing. Korean literally reminds me of adult toddlers talking.
48:05 nahhhhh that point about being afraid of going to Mexico SPECIFICALLY rubbed me wrong too...... like I wouldn't wanna travel to ANY country I'm new to by myself (especially if I didn't know the language) but she wasn't afraid of the otherssssss???? like girl you could be taken advantage of anywhere especially with the way she be acting....
Right? Its giving racism and ignorance
Honestly the whole covering her face in the photo at the concert isn’t surprising. Fansites in general are all (for the most part) very protective of their identities. I went to a fansign in Korea and posted videos that didn’t include any of the peoples faces but I got a message from a fansite saying I needed to remove the videos because it has the BACK OF PEOPLES HEADS in it! Like wtf are yall so afraid of people recognizing you that you don’t even want the back of your head in a video at a fansign. After that I look at fansites with a lot of suspicion even the ones that don’t straight up stalk them because regardless the way I saw people yelling at members to do certain poses was weird and definitely gave me the “I spent money give me attention” that you talked about in the video. Literally one fansite told a member to puff out his cheeks and he said back that he didn’t want to because his cheeks are already “squishy enough” but she insisted and was basically yelling across the room so ended up just doing it, later I saw that picture and the urge to block her was so strong and this is one of the normal fansites like not a stalker and international fans would assume they’re a good person to follow. Side note she wasn’t the only one yelling or I guess talking loudly. There were multiple people doing it especially the ones who brought props for them to wear. Like they would tell them what poses to do. Also just taking pictures of the members outside as they walked into the venue of the fansign still felt odd to me. I felt like I shouldn’t have been there even though it was just a coincidence I was there because I was still trying to figure out how to get into the venue (it was underground and I was so confused while trying to find the entrance 🫠). So yeah idk in general I feel like the line between sasaeng and fansite is so minuscule because they interact with the members so regularly it may be hard for them to realize that they are just a fan because the members technically do know these people and will recognize them typically they members will even know their names.
Great video and I hope you continue covering sasaengs because there are so many and they deserve to be called out. Also looking forward to the studio pav video. I’ve been to many of their tours even went to vav’s tour a few weeks ago. I haven’t had any bad experiences but I am side eyeing them because of the price jumps like I have tickets to see onlyoneof but I will not be buying snapshots because a bury polaroid ain’t worth $80 (plus tax)
Also literally why are these fans that you mentioned not blacklisted? Why are they aloud into fansigns especially that person who took those pics you showed where he was looking annoyed/confused. Like they check your id and everything it would be easy to keep them away from concerts and fansigns at least in Korea
@@gummiehobi8032 a lot of them are rich/wealthy. They spend a LOT of money on these groups. The companies usually don't do anything about it (especially if the group isn't super popular).
@@mixievee true! Which kind of makes me conflicted because at this point its like do idols really have to be uncomfortable just so they can still make a living 😭 I wish companies would just blacklist all the weirdos and say to hell with it. But I know that’s not going to happen
it's true that many sasaengs take out loans just to afford their stalker behaviour of following idols around.... LIKE GORL use that money for a therapist or smth.....
you should do beomgyu’s sasaeng. Her name is fruity b but i don’t know that much about her i just know moas are always taking about her
Idk a lot of P1h, and I definitely didn't know how many minors are in the group, and it 100 percent makes the stalking even worse 😭 Like imagine being so self centered that you think you have the right to stalk a child because they are talented and fitting visual standards you have. Anyone who is obsessed with a child's looks is extremely sus, even if it's a fan of an artist like I hope someone stops them from profiting and following them.
This is interesting to watch as someone that was active during a time were many sasaengs were getting exposed...there even was a twitter space back then and a person that was accused to be a sasaengs had a panic attack? (It wasn't anyone mentioned in the video) it was really crazy bcs no one knew whats going on anymore, this video is so helpful tysm
I WAS THE HOST OF THE SPACE😭😭
even i didnt know what was going on half the time to be honest😭 i would add ppl to talk and most of then would just yap about irrelevant stuff☠️ legit it was my first time EVER making a twt space and i had no idea how to control and mute people and such. I never thought the space would get so big bc i only had like 300-400 followers😭the person who joined the space and had the panic attack was podocookie. it was such a shitty time for me bc i ended getting death threats for not knowing how to mute podo while she was having the panic attack. also i didnt think it would escalate so fast when creating that space😭 i just wanted to talk to my moots about the ssngs and try to clear things up because i was confused 😭 but it ended up making things worse. im not as active on p1ece twt bc it affected me so much 😭
OH MY GOD???
@p1hyuck that is so traumatizing oh my god?? i hope you’re okay now and people don’t send you such awful things, that’s just horrible. but, thank you for leaving it a comment, i had no clue about this
@@duckypato lol no problem! im all good now, but i had to distance myself from p1ece twt bc of it. i changed my user and profile and now im mostly on nct twt lol. it kinda sucks bc it kinda made me distance myself from piwon for a while. other than that i’m back to ulting them and staying tuned for their first album soon!
I personally don't think it's problematic to attend as many concerts as you can afford of your fave(s). If I had the money, I'd probably see my faves as much as i I could. That being said, it's pretty clear these people are stalking these groups based on their choices of accommodation, following them EVERYWHERE, gaming the system to take pictures of them etc.
Also just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. It's so unique and interesting and, a breath of fresh air compared to how bait heavy and clickbaity non-reaction kpop content tends to be on here.
Last note, I don't speak Spanish but, I like the bits you sprinkle in throughout your videos. Also, as an African kpop stan, my eyebrow definitely raised along with yours when that saesang said she was scared of going to Mexico. Many people tend to be very gross and xenophobic about South America and Africa.
bro i've been a friend of a ssg (dropped her when i found out) and it was fr crazy, we planned on going to see the group and she was in charge of buying the flights (bc we were going in a group multiple stops so we wanted to all sit together) and she got us first class on the same flight as the idols and we just had to pay her and we met up w her ssg fan from china and she came on the same flight as the idols my normal friends and i were SO pissed also full time ssgs that are fan sites can do it full time bc they make money off of the pics (and they usually come from money lol)
I truly love your videos and how even with a heavy subject matter you are always respectful while being entertaining. And congrats on the RUclips paycheck!!!!!!!!! The mic sounds great and you deserve all the moneys in the world from RUclips!!!! Most of all I hope you have an easy recovery ❤
awwww thank you so much!!! 🥹🫶
I SAW THESE GIRLS HERE IN BRAZIL dude i went to see piwon arriving at the airport on the second brazil stop, they all came in the same flight as them and there were so many they didnt stop coming wtf, i think all these girls in the video were there! and at the concert they got there like right in the time for the vvip stuff and all the fans in the line were booing at them (as we should), honestly was so disgusting seeing all of those girls, they really follow them everywhere...
I personally vote for papa's bakeria but I'm biased bc it's what I play while you talk hehe! So glad you're back I hope the rest of your healing process goes by without too much trouble!!
when you did the math on S2 I hade to clutch my pearls for a hot minute. cause girl WHAT!?!?!
Kpop has a serioussss problem with parasociality that leads to this behavior. I know that every genre has its stalkers, but in kpop it seems like there is way too much representation of them in the general population. Makes me wonder how many “regular” fans would turn into saesangs if they had the money because emotionally they’re already there.
The company is also absolutely at fault because they could block ticket sales to these stalkers, have security prevent them from entering events/concerts, charter private jets, and institute other safety measures, but they don’t cuz they want the money smh
there was sm saesangs at the p1harmony hello82 event in atl it wasn't even funny!! it was like a whole group of them
HALF THE PPL U NAMED WERE THERE I JUST REALIZED
love your vids! let’s spread awareness
s2seobs has me blocked 😭😭
big flex
Are you hungry? Because you literally ATE with this video
i agree with others saying papago is better for korean translations!! also abt the translation with the “chinese people” i went through the text multiple times and chinese or chinese people arent mentioned at all,,,,, it could be a context based addition by the person doing the translation if it was a known context of the people being talked abt being chinese but,,,,, yeah,,,, just based on the text alone i dont think theres any reason to add it in?????
piwon deserves so much better
i can’t remember if any of the accs mentioned are who I’m thinking, but there was also an intak sasaeng that had been going to like every usa stop and they were at the Nashville concert i went to and while i was still outside in the line, some of my friends were already inside the venue and they were texting in the gc abt how that sasaeng was in front row and had gotten into it with security right in front of them, which says a lot.
Why has everyone seen them???? My gosh this is horrifying 😭
OMGGGGG GRACIAS POR ESTE VIDEO TE AMOO ya estaba confundida con todo esto y ya ni sabia quienes eran sasaengs y quienes no 😓😓😓 recuerdo haber visto uno de tus videos anteriormente pero despues me olvide como se llamaba tu canal y eso pero ver q hiciste un video de mi grupo favorito y sobre el tema q ps es mas preocupante para la mayoria de p1eces me sorprendio !!! felicidades por tu pago y porfi cuidate y sube mas videos k los amo 🫶🫶🩷🩷
Omg.. I've been a fan of kpop music for approximately 6 years, just listening to it and watching my fav groups' shows once in a while, but never actually following the news and stuff like that. But since discovering p1harmony I became a huge fan and want to support them as much as I can in my free time, gathering votes in voting apps, posting about their comeback on social media etc, because they literally saved my live at some point (so cliché, I know). So when I saw the title I got so frustrated and clicked to watch so quickly to see what happened. that's the first time I actually watch something like this... Want to thank you for the research, I'm kind of naive and often can't read between the lines, so your perception showed me a lot.
So glad you’re back! Thank you for the new video & your hard work (as well as the others mentioned). Sorry about your accident, I’m glad you’re well now. Happy new year! 💜🪷🏊♀️
thank you so much!! 💜 happy new year to you too~
2Seob did not mention 'Chinese people' @54:40 the tweet roughly translates to [ note - I'm an intermediate level Korean learner] "Throughout the tour, I could not say/tell to my Korean friends, unni said not to say anything...they knew that their actions were not justified and when they did not meet only their favorite member ((I think they met other members, but NOT their bias)) they were annoyed. One friend said that he didn't take/bring his phone ((I'm assuming to take photos of a member with?)) and told me to bring my phone with to the next city. ((I am not sure what they meant by saying things that were difficult for him to say...not entirely sure how to translate it)) I followed the members to the accommodations only including swimming pool and gym."
I have been a kpop stan for the last 14 years and honestly, this has been going on for a long time for so many groups.. Im just glad now people are vocal to voice out things that aren’t right and are already beyond normalised.
as a p1ece it enrages me that the boys and fans had to go thruh hella bs cause of these people. they are the reason why people hate fan sites as every single one i’ve seen has talked shit about other members or has been disrespectful to staff and other fans i really hope they’re company takes actions against them
Thank you for covering this! But also, I HAVENT PLAYED PAPA GAMES IN FOREVER THEY BRING BACK SO MANY FUN MEMORIES. Anyways thank you so much for doing this!
by the way in korean it says tamra and not Tamara. She is not mentioning the girls name but saying tamra witch actually is a short form for saying timeline in korean. She is prob referring to the twitter timeline haha
thank you for making a very good informative video about these weirdo!!! please play mocharic next video.
This video was so good, tanhk you for the info!! I feel so sorry for piwon. Me habría encantado saber esto cuando estuvieron en Chile 😠😠
the joblessness is insane ngl, what exactly do they get from stalking?
i love your vids so much omd
off topic but like the way you comment on stuff is so entertaining
I love your videos!!
It took me 10 minutes to realize LATAM meant Latin America 😭😭
Bestie back 🎉 with the papa + kpop grind 😂
I think a lot of the media portraying Mexico/ South America mainly focuses on the drug/crime scene and that girl is most likely saying she's scared due to the overgeneralisation of the entire continent -_-. I think colourism comes into play because there are freaks in the UK, Australia (I live there so trust, I know 💀) and Korea, but because those countries are assumed to have a higher white/korean population, people will deem it as more 'safe'. She's probably thinking of the racist stereotypes of POC, mainly black, brown, and latinx people being aggressive, criminals, scary etc.
i always think about the amount of money they spent, what i ould buy that could go to better use. i crochet and the amount of yarn i'd buy
i think about how the fuck they get all this money...
@@dprskxt there's no way they have regular jobs like imagine the amount of leaves they take and the length? what boss will be okay with that. i also heard somewhere that they might sell their (some) pictures, info they obtain for a higher price. like idols numbers, info etc. but still then, what do their parents think? what excuse do they give their parents? how much does twitter pay them
@@avyluant9416 right! theres no way, but omg how many infos of their idols do they sell to get this much money? 😨
honestly crazy
i COULD be wrong (i'm 90% sure i'm correct on this tho) butttt when kr folk on twt say what gets translated to "tamra" i'm pretty sure they're just abbreviating timeline into 'tl' like how we do but just in korean! -insert nerd emoji here-
moreover.. altho idk more than a damn about p1h i really enjoyed this vid
Oh my god I'm so tuned in
yay!! new video
탐라 (tamra) is short for 타임라인 (timeline) so she means twitter feed. She’s apologizing for bringing drama into the twitter timeline
Everytime you talk about the amount of money S2 or the other sasaengs spent on, I couldn't help but think of the Vine boom sound effect. Yeah it's their money and they could do whatever they want with it, but.....is it really worth it? I also couldn't help but laugh when you said "The screen isn't going anywhere." when choierrys2 brought in a big ass camera and multiple lenses to the cinema. It's just the absurdity bringing such an item to a cinema when they could've just used their phone. The quality would've still been good and it doesn't need to be 100% HD.
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hello! i'm a p1ece who have always preferred not to join the community if i join a fandom (basically: i'm a p1ece and i didn't know this ) and this has always caused me to not get portions of crucial informations and even if i get them, i get them the latest. the thing is this preference was for my mental health, but at the same time as a fan, knowing which media i can pick to consume or even which photographers to support to when providing pictures for me, can contribute to whether or not i support p1harmony's mental health and wellbeing and also the p1ece affected... makes me feel "wary". the least we can do is not to support these sasaengs, make it more difficult for them to affect other's wellbeing and good time whether it is reporting their account from afar or reporting them if you see them in a venue. i just wanna say thank you for the great video for informing me and help me understand better what's happening!
thank you for your insight! i also like to know what kind of photographers to support so i definitely get where you’re coming from. and i know that for some touring agencies, especially ones that work with kpop groups/idols, they say that if you see someone with a bunch of cameras and who looks suspicious, to let them know and they will deal with them, but i know that this has also caused some regular fans (mainly asian ones) getting wrongly accused of being a sasaeng. i hope there is a better way of these sasaengs not being able to get close to the people they stalk, like a company blacklist or something. anyway, thank you for watching and for commenting, it means a lot! ☺️
I just can’t imagine having the money and the time to be doing this kind of thing. lol constantly taking flights and booking hotel rooms to follow them. It sounds exhausting. These people must either have some very rich parents or they’re living penny to penny to keep this going.
welcome back! the mic quality is amazing! thank u for this video. do u have any plans to start a podcast? i would love to hear u speak forever TT
Where do they even get the MONEYYYYY??
i dont have anyth abt p1harmony, but i can comment abt papa!
im more familiar with the pc/flash games than the to-go versions, but i think mocharia if you want another dessert based one, but if you want a savory one either wingeria or cheeseria.
FINALLY a good video to watch whilst eating
Recuerdo que en la parada de Monterrey me sorprendió ver a varios asiáticos ahí intentaba no pensar mal pero me fue difícil la verdad justo porque es bien sabido que hay sasaengs que hacen de todo para viajar y estarlos persiguiendo me parece un comportamiento terrible deberían poner prohibiciones para esas personas sobre todo sobre su asistencia en cosas del grupo fuera de su país o algo así porque intentan asistir a la mayoría de sus paradas y acceder a todas esas actividades con ellos con ese comportamiento tan cuestionable y a veces siendo también tan irrespetuosos con fans y staff como ya paso con una ssg de baekhyun en el kamp monterrey saber que también van en sus vuelos y hoteles es todavía más aterrador deben protegerlos
its pretty standard for fansites to post photos from the airpost. of idols sleeping, just standing around etc. i don't think its that weird unless the photo is taken very close by, but most fansites cover up how zoomed their photos are (the sneaky bastards)
I really appreciate the work on this video but the amount of ads on this video is killing me god damn
I attended a stop on P1harmony’s first ever world tour and the stop I was at apparently a Sasaeng was there and they were escorted out by security.
My friend and I were confused about what was going on because neither of us knew what was happening or who the Sasaeng was because we weren’t on stan Twitter but other fans who were around us knew and were like “it’s okay don’t give them the attention on Twitter just know they’re crazy and need to leave” and we were both like oh…. Okay😂
Not P1harmony related but their company senior SF9 also did a world tour not that long ago. I attended their show in the same city as I did the P1 show and they had a whole group of Sasaengs from Korea there also😭 only one girl had a ticket to the show the other four kept walking back and forth by the gates to try and sneak in. The one Sasaeng who had a ticket kept trying to get into the building before we were allowed to by telling the worker at the door they were cold and needed to go inside and that they needed to go to the bathroom so the worker should let her in to which they said no. After soundcheck we had to get out and she kept asking the worker inside to let her stay inside the building since it’s too cold outside and they had to continuously tell her to get out because she wouldn’t leave. Sasaengs are so crazy and for what?😭💀
I had always liked their posts esp the jiung's fansites. And i had always weird and wonder how the fansites were always there when piwon do concerts in oversea. Turns out they actually following piwon around and are a sasaengs. I'm quite dissapointed honestly. Piwon members deserve their privacy!
Same here. I thought they're part of company staff. Or working part-time for it. Never know they are this creepy 😮
the atlanta event was an hello82 play82 event! it was around $130! i went and i don’t remember seeing sasaengs..that’s crazy..i actually do remember seeing potential sasaengs at piwon’s second tour in Atlanta…they were breaking the line and i can’t remember exactly what happened but they definitely got sent to the back of the line cuz we snitched that they broke in line..but yeah, they’re so freaking weird
The concert at 42:13 isn't Korea but a festival in London with other artists which makes it even more insane. And it also means I could of seen them and I never knew 🤡
This has nothing to be with the craziness of the group of stalkers but I was wondering what’s the name of the cupcake game? 😂
the amount of polaroids she got compared to u is CRAZYYY WHAT
when i just started stanning piwon 😫
I hope you make a vid about how 3 SSG followed RIIZE'S Anton home back to the states.....IS SO FREAKING WEIRD
im only 19 minutes in but i feel horrible for jongseob that poor boy had to take all those pics with that lady 💀💀
I absolutely love your videos even tho I am not a K-pop fan. I would really appreciate it if you could translate what you say in Spanish to English as a subtitle. Thank you for your amazing videos and vibes and I can't wait to see more !!! :}
thank you! i’m working on subtitles for my vids, new vids will now have subtitles on screen for when i switch languages 🫶
@@duckypato thanks so much! I want to learn more Spanish as well!
Happy new year Bestie!!! It’s been a while here!
Nah because the cost of that one girls Polaroids on the one tour was about the same as the cost for my three week language school across the world 😭😭
Idk how these sasaengs afford this, but it’s not only creepy, but idols that have these obsessive fans should take legal action. Like imagine seeing a fan at a concert, then a fansign, then your hotel, AND on your flights?!? Nah man I could never. I get it, I’ve been called obsessive by my friends (who aren’t kpop fans) and by some family (obsessive like always thinking about them), but I wouldn’t even go close to these lengths. The most I would do is go to concerts and a few fansigns.
Seob getting into the #2 queue is crazy!!!? Imagine this time around for P1harmony tour..
i have a feeling that 탐라 (tamra) could be like an abbreviation of timeline (which is something that Korean’s use quite often in texts)
I could be wrong as Korean isn’t my native tongue but it’s just something that feels like it’d make sense in the context of the tweet. “I’m sorry for disturbing [your] timelines (tamra) because of these little things”. I could be wrong but i feel like it fits!
탐라 =?= 타임라인
Tamra =?= Timeline
Anyway doesn’t matter i just know these people are actually sick in the head regardless ☝️
papas freezeria 🔛🔝