Believe me, he may SEEMED to have listened but in reality he was rejecting everything Charlie said. He'll keep going on bitching and complaining about something that never happened to him and screaming for free shit like a four year old child. What this black man engaged in was HATE speech.
@@mica-i7l Yep. But they know damn well they won't get a dime from blacks and muslims. But whitey is another story. This opportunistic crap needs to stop.
@ronnieblackburn1976 they should go after the Dutch and Spanish slave traders or even better, the other tribes that captured them to sell to the slave traders to begin with. They're trying to collect from the wrong people.
At the start of the CIVIL WAR a black man Anton Andrew owned 269 slaves here in America and the MOORS who invaded the Iberian peninsula (SPAIN) took whites as slaves primarily white women for over 500 years before they the MOORS(BARBARY COAST) sold the first black to a white person
Oddly enough, if we pursue his "logic" to its ends... we are left with a big question: Whereas a large preponderance of criminal activity seems to arise from certain demographics... can we charge everyone who fits these descriptions with the crimes of others who just happen to look like them?
Money does not fix what happened hundreds of years ago. This is just greed, nothing else. Some of my ancestors were slaves, I don't expect anyone to give me or anyone in my family reparations. We were taught that we are responsible for our lives. Work hard and you'll succeed. You want reparations, take some of the African kings to court for the money, they are the ones who sold your ancestors first! Greed!
I worked with a Ɓlack guy who was always talking about reparations and how Black people were still slaves. One day when he was talking about reparations I asked him if any of his family had been slaves and he said a lot of them were slaves so I asked him to name 2 of them. He couldn't and proceeded to go to HR and try to get me fired for being a racist. I explained his statements and my question to HR and was told I should just go back to work and there was no problem...
"Racism is not dead but it is on life support; Kept alive by politicians, race hustlers, and people who get a sense of moral superiority by denouncing others as 'racists'." -Thomas Sowell
He cries victim to not be accountable for his own actions or lack of, he as an individual, has the the same or in a lot of cases more opportunities than a Caucasian.
That's something that I have always wondered about. Has anyone every found a letter, article, or mention of former slaves or their descendants thanking the families of the 300,000 + Union soldiers that died for their freedom. I have never seen such a thing.
Funny how that abhorrent practice is still happening but the reparation cheerleaders are only interested in what happened hundreds of years ago in the US and not any of the slavery in other areas of the world. Slavery is still common in Africa....where is the outrage?
My ancestors fought to end slavery (one died in the Civil War) and I am 1/4 Cherokee. I do not think I owe anything and I do not want to receive anything.
Charlie's greatest contribution to the US is to actually bring true discussion and debate back to the culture. These two were able to exchange ideas and listen to each other without hurling insults at each other. Charlie is the reason for this.
Let's face it, there's a good chance that if these people were still in their native country a lot of them would be living in slum areas or eking out a poor living in a hut miles away from a water supply waiting for 'the white man' to come and dig them a well. The girls wouldn't be in school, they would be uneducated and married off at a young age whether they liked it or not. Perhaps instead of whining they ought to be grateful that they are reaping all the benefits of what happened hundreds of years ago.
Why were Irish and Polish immigrants able to overcome their dire straights and not blacks as communities and individuals? Anybody that knows factual American history knows how bad the Irish had it not only in America but by their English masters before coming to America, Polish as well, Chinese didn’t have it so good either and the Barbary Slave Trade that America went to war over seems to be conveniently ignored. My ancestors came from Northern Ireland a 100 years before the European slave ships ever left African shores for America with slaves. They suffered no less before their arrival or after and fought in every single war and conflict since for “America”. The whole reparations thing and systemic oppression is absolute b.s. want evidence of systemic racism? Look at the acceptance charts for Universities and Colleges based on race and you’ll see where this systemic racism is really at.
You are a smart man! Subscribed today! Angela Davis even found out her ancestors came over on the Mayflower. LeVar Burton found out he had a gg grandfather who was white. Sunny Hostin found out her parents owned slaves. There is no way to determine who owes and who doesn’t. In America, we ALL mutts. 😮
This is political. It is to upset the country over something that ended 160 years ago and many Americans were not even here yet. A lot of immigrants came between 1880 and 1940, so why would they have to pay or even receive for slavery? This is racism even though every race was involved, only whites are the bad guys, the last to do it and the ones that cancelled it.
It really is that simple. Lazy people looking for handouts because of their race. And they know that if anyone speaks out against it they will just label them racists.
What? The Brits were the worst in enslaving people over time and they set up the slave trade with Africa. I understand you are relating this back to Caesar but let's get real about the UK and what they did.
I mean, it happened so many times that most people on the British Isles aren't even descended from the original Britons, or Picts, or Celts, or...who was there first, anyway?
Oh we don’t wanna talk about that it doesn’t fit the narrative… The narrative of lazy people every other immigrant coming to America has thrived every other immigrant coming to America has faced racism because of their last name of their skin color… Every civilization has had to endure being a slave… The term slave came from the Slavic‘s being the first actual slaves it seems like we do not want to remember historyOr even read about the facts that took place many many many years ago… Just get off your lazy ass and do something America is great
I can directly trace myself back to natives whom walked the trail of tears, whom had also been enslaved and genocided. I can also trace myself back to Irish slaves. Does America owe me anything? Truly I do not think so.
They don't deserve reperations from something that happened over 200 years ago and the sooner they get that though their thick heads the sooner we can move on with our lives.
When it comes to reparations for a certain group what happens regarding the over 3,700 black slave owners that existed back in the 1800s??? Who gets reparations in that case??
@@samuelschick8813That was the first one I know of that wasn't because of a crime. Life long servitude was common for criminals at that time and is still legal today. Originally it was to save money, instead of imprisonment. There were people of all races that fell into that category. Read the constitution. It's still legal to punish criminals in that way in the U.S.. It's just not normally done anymore. That's why chain gangs and other activities were legal. It's also why sentencing someone to public service is used and legal.
What about any white people that can trace their ancestry back to a slave??? Slavery withing someone's ancestry would have to be the qualifications......That number would nearly be as many as blacks that would qualify
1. Point of order. The Gentleman asking the question is not asking it in defense of the idea of reparations. He is presenting the subject to illicit a clear explanation of why it is invalid. A good technique for educating others.
Unfortunately, all through history people fighting for what they want often hurts the losers. Sad about the Indians? Certainly but what about the civil war where families fought against each other? Some lost that’s how war works.
I’m weary of it and have lost all respect, replaced with a suspicion I did not have and a resentment I’ve acquired over many years of watching DEI injustice. I’m tired of white kids being abused and disenfranchised. I’m tired of white kids killing themselves , because of this! For things they’ve never done but demonised for.
While slavery was terrible, it WAS legal at the time. And, there is not one descendant of a slave alive today, who is not better off for being a citizen of the United States of America.
Slavery was legal which is why reparations would come from the govt and not the individual citizens but what Hitler did was also legal in Germany but those people got reparations from Germany and still get it. They also get aid from other countries as well. What am I missing?
My great great great grandfather fought for the North and died in a prisoner of war camp in Georgia, he gave his life. Now some are stirring up other for political reasons and some want free money
Frankly I'm tired of a certain community culturally appropriating the word 'slave' from the generational trauma experienced by the Slavic peoples that were taken by Arab 'slave' traders. Think of another word that represents your not-so-collective experience.
I think if reparations *HAVE* to be issued, they should come in the form of plane tickets to the country their relatives were sold by their other relatives in. Help those "affected" return to the roots they care soooo much about and to escape this horrible country that "systemically holds them down".
What about the Huron people that were annihilated to a man by the Iroquois and the Sioux. That was a successful genocide. How do you fix that historical crime and apologize for it??
There is slavery happening today and you hit the nail on the head! Slavery is probably worse today than in the past since it is far more cruel. Please just google slavery today. Great channel and love the commentary.
Why don't they ask for reparations from Africa, it is the ancestors of those who live in Africa today who sold off their captive and enemies to the slave traders. The Muslims are still practiced slavery all the way up to today. It was the white man that first fought against slavery and England was that first nation to make it illegal to hold slaves. 360 000 union soldiers died to end the slavery, what about paying their descendants reparations. Frankley, If you are black in America today descendant from slavery, you are luckier than 99% of the world of black population, you should be thankful for the sacrifice your ancestors did for YOU! Kiss the dame ground you stand on.
If reparations at to be paid. Wouldn't it be best to have the ancestors of the first man to own a slave in the colonies be the ones that would need to pay them? Some blacks and whites were brought here in the early 1600's. They were indentured servants, not slaves. (Slave laws were passed in 1661 to which blacks became slaves.) After working off the cost of the transportation and such to come here. They were freed and given land to farm, normally 250 acres. In 1655, John Castor became the first black man that was legally indentured for life. He was owned by Anthony Johnson, a free black man. Short version. A back man was the first slave owner in America.
Reparations are inherently flawed. How do you put a monetary price on things which happened as much as hundreds of years ago? If we use the execuse of “Well it’s impacted my life today”, then a nah of cash isn’t going to change that person’s life, get them a better job, or stop racism from occurring. Putting a price on racism is inherently racist.
He should have ask him if blacks owed repetitions to their Irish slaves. Where there majority of Irish were worked to death or starved. Also in USA there were 2 black slave owners for each white slave owner. 3/4 of slaves were owned by black slave owners. The black slaves came from cages on shore for sale that other tribes captured and caged to sell. Africa economy was built on slave trade.
The USSC has ruled on several different occasions it is unconstitutional to take from one specific group of people to give solely to another specific group of people. Cities that have passed reparations legislation have sneaky slime balls for mayors and city council members. They skirt the USSC rulings, and thus, the US Constitution, by taking "reparations" out of EVERY paycheck, including working p.o.c. They will claim it goes to improve black neighborhoods, but scant little, if any at all, is used to improve black neighborhoods. It gets redistributed anywhere but where they claim the money is earmarked for, mostly into the personal bank accounts of these corrupt mayors and their city council cronies under "Administrative Fees." Exactly what they file a lot of the state & federal funding received, under - "Administrative Fees". They are using the term "reparations" as a sleazy, underhanded, sneaky, new term for "tax". It's just another TAX taken from EVERY worker and aimed toward nothing & NO ONE in particular but themselves. Although, they might sprinkle a little bit towards patching sidewalk cracks.They will fight an audit tooth & nail. I wish Mr. Kirk would bring up the USSC cases rulings, and shine a spotlight on these sleazy so called "reparations" city leaders. Maybe then, more folks will start demanding regular (key word = REGULAR) audits of their Mayors, City Council, and, for the sake of inclusivity, County Commissioners too!
Adding on to what Charlie said, where would we even draw the line for reparations? There’s not one race or religion that hasn’t suffered the same injustices people are saying they’re owed reparations for today. Slavery, inequality, attempts at or successful genocide im sure has happened more than once. What’s going to happen when the people demanding reparations are told who THEY owe either through history saying “you’re no better” or if they were told “you owe us $XX because of all the (insert crimes) this group of people committed 5 states over”? Either the reparations would come full circle, or one of those groups would refuse to pay back anything and we’re back at square one anyway, but more poor than before.
It's also racist by assuming all slaves were black. There were lilly white Irish slaves as well. The first 2 legal slaves in America were owned by a black man named Anthony Johnson, and the slaves were a black African and white Irishman....
If it ever looked like reparations were seriously going to be doled out, i would invest everything I had into starting a luxury car dealership and a combination Nike/Gucci shop and dispensary. Within six months, I'd be rolling in all of their money and they'd be right back where they started, except with a Mercedes parked on the street in front of their house, Jordans on their feet, and a Gucci bag to carry their baby daddy's weed in.
There is an even bigger issue really. Who owes this money? Is it the person/people who captured and sold the slave or the person who purchased, legally at the time, the slave. Then of course theres the fact that if you asked 1000 blacks who want reperations and you asked them for the name of the slave and the slave owner and documentation to prove you are a descendant, 1000 of them would not be able to do it.
My ancestors in America never owned slaves. Many of them fought in the civil war to end slavery and were pro-equal rights for all. The other side were treated as badly as black people, for instance, many of their ethnicity were 2nd only to blacks in being lynched in the south. So, my taxes should not go to reparations. Instead of paying reparations to people who were never slaves, we should be freeing current slaves trafficked and kept in this nation. That's where the money should go - current victims of slavery.
A point about systemic and generational trauma. If it's true that the generation of freed slaves were traumatized, in turn traumatized their children and their children, etc. Then, ONLY the first generation is entitled to reparation, the subsequent generations were traumatized by THEIR parents and THEIR parents were the criminal. Also, IF we are holding the children responsible for the crimes of their relatives, then we can hold relatives of criminals responsible for their relatives crimes? Can we sue the children of a rapist, murder, arsonist?
I never owned a slave and I never knew anyone who owned a slave. Also I have never known anyone who was a slave or anyone who knew someone who was a slave. In other words I've never been associated with slavery and I've never wanted to be associated with slavery in any way, shape or form so why should I pay anybody reparations?
Some people want free stuff and lastly yes there is a current slave trade going on out of Mexico and everything from the cartels women and children forced in as sex slaves it's absolutely horrific!
1:40 They’ve definitely gotten reparations from multiple European countries. Furthermore, the Native Americans received land, and the Japanese were granted reparations for being interned during WWII.
The Native Americans received land at that time and the Japanese who were interned at that time received compensation, not some ancestors from over a hundred fifty years after slavery.
The majority of slaves that came from Africa were captured and sold into slavery by their own people from other, stronger, tribes. Greed was the cause of slavery. Slavery was the result of greed. So, why do the descendants of slaves want reparations from the slave owner's descendants? Why do they not ask the descendants of the bl@ck African and Arabian tribes that first enslaved them and marched them to the slave ships? So many perished on those journeys, more than the ones that made it and were then chained inside the holds of ships, where more of them perished at sea before finally being sold on slave blocks in the countries of destination. For every slave sold this way, four or five had perished from cruelty and/or hunger on the journey from their village to the farms and fields of their new 'owners'. Their 'owners' at least fed, clothed and housed them.
Some people have been told to play the victim card and hold out their hand . the real way forward is to take advantage of all this country offers. Anyone can make it big here, especially if they don't believe those who say they are incapable.
As the subject of reparations keeps popping up surely the only reparation that perhaps should be considered, if indeed one needs consideration, is the actual injustice to the modern African American whose ancestors were brought to America as slaves, is these descendants who obviously have proof to claim relationship as their birth right to Africa ( hence the African before American description) and they surely have that right, if it is their choice, to be returned to their ancestral land, at the total expense of the American government and claim their rightful ancestral citizenship there then surely this should be an open choice. If this became a choice for all who wanted what could be accepted as correct and fair reparations, would many African Americans take up this offer ? Surely many descendants of that shocking slave trade era have made comfortable lifestyles, opportunities and become millionaires and leading Americans in all walks of life in the USA. Probably not many would prefer the alternative now.
The funny thing is, I’ve seen a couple of African Americans who did in fact move back to their ancestral lands and then… complained that they weren’t welcome back by these people with open arms. Because to the natives, they’re nothing but foreigners invading their land, regardless of them having a similar skin color. And then the African Americans in question just complained about how their “brothers and sisters” don’t want them either.
It is a sad thing to know that most that do such, enjoy the power it grants them as well as the feelings of superiority it gives. Greed and pride combined.
I'm all for reparations, any black person that can provide a birth certificate proving that they were born BEFORE... January 1st 1863 has the right to any reparations they want more power to you
@@MatthewSmith-f2sWhites were enslaved to and it's very likely at this point two of your ancestors married each other and one side of the family owned slaves and the other were slaves going back several generations.
What gets me are the people that are so hung up on slavery that happened long before they were born, but say nothing about the slavery that is still happening all over the world. So glad that you brought that point up, I think all rational people can agree that slavery is wrong regardless of what race the of the people enslaved.
One aspect of reparations has not been considered, to my understanding. If reparations are offered and accepted, then the account of slavery is settled in full. No further accommodation in this matter is owed. Where would Al Sharpton be then?
Sadly the problem is that they want everything handed to them. So many people are struggling, white, black, Mexican etc. We need to stop dividing and come together as one. Our Country needs healing.
Reparations is a tool for a much deeper division in America. Others say it’s just the opposite, which is totally wrong. If the reparations came from the actual person that owned the slave, then that would be part of their punishment for the crime, which would also include jail time. If you want to keep racism alive and division in our country, then reparations will do that. The citizens of today and many immigrants that have come to this country are not held accountable for what a dead person did over 150 years ago. Setting this kind of precedent is not something we should do, no one will win.
@ correct, but it is today, and those that think they deserve “justice” are those that are alive today, not the victims from 150 years ago. Reparations are not legal under these circumstances, descendants are not made to pay for the crimes of their ancestors. Ezekiel 18:20 - “The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; “ People get away with crimes all the time, but the innocent should not be made to pay the price.
I asked a girl why she believed she deserved reperations, and when she was done (two reasons later), I asked why Indigenous people shouldn't get reperations...she told me they DON'T need it. Indigenous people have gone through far more trauma than these people's ancestors were ever subject to. They deserve their sacred land back, not YOU.
My grandfather came to America in the early 1900's. Explain why I owe anyone anything? He came here with NOTHING but the shirt on his back as an Italian immigrant and built a family WITH NO GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS !!! He escaped from the ACTUAL oppressive government at the time.
My question is, at what generation does reparation stop?? Do we give reparation to every black child that is born? Or is it only for ones that are alive today? It makes zero sense.
Where do people think this money comes from to pay all these causes? this is why this country is in MASSIVE debt. The working class is tired of paying for handouts.
I am just glad the guy listened to him instead of yelling over him screaming racist over and over.
Believe me, he may SEEMED to have listened but in reality he was rejecting everything Charlie said. He'll keep going on bitching and complaining about something that never happened to him and screaming for free shit like a four year old child. What this black man engaged in was HATE speech.
They should go get reparations from the owners families that sold them out of Africa.
@@mica-i7l Yep. But they know damn well they won't get a dime from blacks and muslims. But whitey is another story. This opportunistic crap needs to stop.
@@mica-i7l Do you mean the Africans that abducted other Africans and sold them to the traders??
@@mica-i7l Indeed. The tribes that did that are the ones who REALLY owe them.
is he going to ask reparations from some of his ancestors who sold them into slavery in the first place.
And what about reparations from black slave owners.
@ronnieblackburn1976 they should go after the Dutch and Spanish slave traders or even better, the other tribes that captured them to sell to the slave traders to begin with. They're trying to collect from the wrong people.
We have already received reparations... it's called AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
At the start of the CIVIL WAR a black man Anton Andrew owned 269 slaves here in America and the MOORS who invaded the Iberian peninsula (SPAIN) took whites as slaves primarily white women for over 500 years before they the MOORS(BARBARY COAST) sold the first black to a white person
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 and apparently squandered it ...
Not sure who said it but "reparations are like paying child support for a child you didn't father to a woman you never met."
*who doesn’t have a child.
I saw a comedian/actor say something similar.
Rob Schneider
@@davidjoseftejada8360 thats the one thank you.
Oddly enough, if we pursue his "logic" to its ends... we are left with a big question: Whereas a large preponderance of criminal activity seems to arise from certain demographics... can we charge everyone who fits these descriptions with the crimes of others who just happen to look like them?
Money does not fix what happened hundreds of years ago. This is just greed, nothing else. Some of my ancestors were slaves, I don't expect anyone to give me or anyone in my family reparations. We were taught that we are responsible for our lives. Work hard and you'll succeed. You want reparations, take some of the African kings to court for the money, they are the ones who sold your ancestors first! Greed!
Your parents did a great job raising you, bless them❤
Actually, you are mostly wromg. Blacks sold,their own children, and it was the English, not african kings. History.
I worked with a Ɓlack guy who was always talking about reparations and how Black people were still slaves. One day when he was talking about reparations I asked him if any of his family had been slaves and he said a lot of them were slaves so I asked him to name 2 of them. He couldn't and proceeded to go to HR and try to get me fired for being a racist. I explained his statements and my question to HR and was told I should just go back to work and there was no problem...
"Racism is not dead but it is on life support; Kept alive by politicians, race hustlers, and people who get a sense of moral superiority by denouncing others as 'racists'." -Thomas Sowell
So HR knew he was talking b.s.
You should sue!
You should've asked him if any of those slave holders were black.
He cries victim to not be accountable for his own actions or lack of, he as an individual, has the the same or in a lot of cases more opportunities than a Caucasian.
My only ancestor who was in america back in 1800s fought to end slavery. I don't expect to be thanked for what he did.
Not by blks u won't be
That's something that I have always wondered about. Has anyone every found a letter, article, or mention of former slaves or their descendants thanking the families of the 300,000 + Union soldiers that died for their freedom. I have never seen such a thing.
They fought cause they were told to
@@loganhowlett01
Lmao 🤣
@loganhowlett01 as in every war u racist pos
The argument is "something happened in the past that negatively impacts people now." Well, that applies to everyone.
A very sensible presentation. Slavery is an abomination and we should be concentrating on the freeing of people who are being enslved today.
I’ve never once heard a black person speak publicly about this, no condemnation, no go finds. Nothing.
Every single person today is a slave. If you have a social security number , you are a slave. Seek,education
I agree. It doest make sense for a person to demand help from others while they themselves ignore the people who have less than them.
Funny how that abhorrent practice is still happening but the reparation cheerleaders are only interested in what happened hundreds of years ago in the US and not any of the slavery in other areas of the world. Slavery is still common in Africa....where is the outrage?
My ancestors fought to end slavery (one died in the Civil War) and I am 1/4 Cherokee. I do not think I owe anything and I do not want to receive anything.
I watch a lot of Charlie, but never seen this one, but its prob the best explanation for why reparations are totally illogical
Charlie's greatest contribution to the US is to actually bring true discussion and debate back to the culture. These two were able to exchange ideas and listen to each other without hurling insults at each other. Charlie is the reason for this.
The freedom of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are your reparations.
Let's face it, there's a good chance that if these people were still in their native country a lot of them would be living in slum areas or eking out a poor living in a hut miles away from a water supply waiting for 'the white man' to come and dig them a well. The girls wouldn't be in school, they would be uneducated and married off at a young age whether they liked it or not.
Perhaps instead of whining they ought to be grateful that they are reaping all the benefits of what happened hundreds of years ago.
Why were Irish and Polish immigrants able to overcome their dire straights and not blacks as communities and individuals? Anybody that knows factual American history knows how bad the Irish had it not only in America but by their English masters before coming to America, Polish as well, Chinese didn’t have it so good either and the Barbary Slave Trade that America went to war over seems to be conveniently ignored. My ancestors came from Northern Ireland a 100 years before the European slave ships ever left African shores for America with slaves. They suffered no less before their arrival or after and fought in every single war and conflict since for “America”. The whole reparations thing and systemic oppression is absolute b.s. want evidence of systemic racism? Look at the acceptance charts for Universities and Colleges based on race and you’ll see where this systemic racism is really at.
Dire straits…..
Thank you for that comment.
You are a smart man! Subscribed today!
Angela Davis even found out her ancestors came over on the Mayflower.
LeVar Burton found out he had a gg grandfather who was white.
Sunny Hostin found out her parents owned slaves.
There is no way to determine who owes and who doesn’t. In America, we ALL mutts. 😮
Kamala's family owned slaves big time, just like Sunny's.
This is political. It is to upset the country over something that ended 160 years ago and many Americans were not even here yet. A lot of immigrants came between 1880 and 1940, so why would they have to pay or even receive for slavery? This is racism even though every race was involved, only whites are the bad guys, the last to do it and the ones that cancelled it.
Great video.
Opportunity, not reparations.
Its just lazy people wanted more freebies
It really is that simple. Lazy people looking for handouts because of their race. And they know that if anyone speaks out against it they will just label them racists.
What about the Britons who were invaded by so many countries including Vikings and Romans, later the French???
What? The Brits were the worst in enslaving people over time and they set up the slave trade with Africa.
I understand you are relating this back to Caesar but let's get real about the UK and what they did.
I mean, it happened so many times that most people on the British Isles aren't even descended from the original Britons, or Picts, or Celts, or...who was there first, anyway?
Exactly...u won't hear anyone crying 24/7 but blks..pathetic
What about the people who were invaded by the Britons? There are so many layers to this we can keep going on and on.
Oh we don’t wanna talk about that it doesn’t fit the narrative… The narrative of lazy people every other immigrant coming to America has thrived every other immigrant coming to America has faced racism because of their last name of their skin color… Every civilization has had to endure being a slave… The term slave came from the Slavic‘s being the first actual slaves it seems like we do not want to remember historyOr even read about the facts that took place many many many years ago… Just get off your lazy ass and do something America is great
I can directly trace myself back to natives whom walked the trail of tears, whom had also been enslaved and genocided. I can also trace myself back to Irish slaves. Does America owe me anything? Truly I do not think so.
Using who when who is correct doesn't make you look smarter
They don't deserve reperations from something that happened over 200 years ago and the sooner they get that though their thick heads the sooner we can move on with our lives.
When it comes to reparations for a certain group what happens regarding the over 3,700 black slave owners that existed back in the 1800s??? Who gets reparations in that case??
The first person to legally own a slave in the USA was a black man named Anthony Johnson in the 1600's.
@@samuelschick8813 wiggle out of that one!!
@@xhaltsalute, Wiggle out of what?
@@samuelschick8813That was the first one I know of that wasn't because of a crime. Life long servitude was common for criminals at that time and is still legal today. Originally it was to save money, instead of imprisonment. There were people of all races that fell into that category.
Read the constitution. It's still legal to punish criminals in that way in the U.S.. It's just not normally done anymore. That's why chain gangs and other activities were legal. It's also why sentencing someone to public service is used and legal.
What about any white people that can trace their ancestry back to a slave??? Slavery withing someone's ancestry would have to be the qualifications......That number would nearly be as many as blacks that would qualify
1. Point of order. The Gentleman asking the question is not asking it in defense of the idea of reparations. He is presenting the subject to illicit a clear explanation of why it is invalid. A good technique for educating others.
Of course he doesn't know of Any other people who "deserve" reparations, typical. Someone should tell him about what Native Americans went through.
Or the Asia Americans that were put in camps when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.
and Irish and Italian Americans...
No such thing. There are no native hominid on the Americas :) DNa evidence show they came from the Steppes of Asia/lower Siberia :)
Unfortunately, all through history people fighting for what they want often hurts the losers. Sad about the Indians? Certainly but what about the civil war where families fought against each other? Some lost that’s how war works.
@@hirotakasugi4891and they were pretty brutal in their own right.
Well said young man!
Always looking for a handout. Always a victim.
I’m weary of it and have lost all respect, replaced with a suspicion I did not have and a resentment I’ve acquired over many years of watching DEI injustice. I’m tired of white kids being abused and disenfranchised. I’m tired of white kids killing themselves , because of this! For things they’ve never done but demonised for.
No Charlie "we" don't need to do anything "they" need to do something for their "community"🙄
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@marydelaney06 answer:we have coddled them enough
While slavery was terrible, it WAS legal at the time. And, there is not one descendant of a slave alive today, who is not better off for being a citizen of the United States of America.
Slavery was legal which is why reparations would come from the govt and not the individual citizens but what Hitler did was also legal in Germany but those people got reparations from Germany and still get it. They also get aid from other countries as well. What am I missing?
All of their people are LAWYERS????
Just living you get negatively affected by other people’s action. You just have to deal with it and get over it.
My great great great grandfather fought for the North and died in a prisoner of war camp in Georgia, he gave his life. Now some are stirring up other for political reasons and some want free money
Charlie is the GOAT with handling these conversations. And when him and Vivek do it together… 🔥
Reparations need to be paid by those that captured your ancestors and sold them into slavery.
Thank you!!!
People have lost the ability to use logic and critical thinking skills. Some things are just common sense but some people are just clueless.
Frankly I'm tired of a certain community culturally appropriating the word 'slave' from the generational trauma experienced by the Slavic peoples that were taken by Arab 'slave' traders. Think of another word that represents your not-so-collective experience.
Exactly
I think if reparations *HAVE* to be issued, they should come in the form of plane tickets to the country their relatives were sold by their other relatives in. Help those "affected" return to the roots they care soooo much about and to escape this horrible country that "systemically holds them down".
Yes and I will pitch in for that!
It's not about justice, it's about envy and resentment and animus and, above all else, the gibs...
Charlie respectfully and effectively made his point
You're so right ❤
What about the Huron people that were annihilated to a man by the Iroquois and the Sioux. That was a successful genocide.
How do you fix that historical crime and apologize for it??
There is slavery happening today and you hit the nail on the head!
Slavery is probably worse today than in the past since it is far more cruel.
Please just google slavery today.
Great channel and love the commentary.
But I have nothing whatsoever to do with that.
There are more slaves in the world today than at any time in history.
Why don't they ask for reparations from Africa, it is the ancestors of those who live in Africa today who sold off their captive and enemies to the slave traders. The Muslims are still practiced slavery all the way up to today. It was the white man that first fought against slavery and England was that first nation to make it illegal to hold slaves. 360 000 union soldiers died to end the slavery, what about paying their descendants reparations. Frankley, If you are black in America today descendant from slavery, you are luckier than 99% of the world of black population, you should be thankful for the sacrifice your ancestors did for YOU! Kiss the dame ground you stand on.
If reparations at to be paid. Wouldn't it be best to have the ancestors of the first man to own a slave in the colonies be the ones that would need to pay them? Some blacks and whites were brought here in the early 1600's. They were indentured servants, not slaves. (Slave laws were passed in 1661 to which blacks became slaves.) After working off the cost of the transportation and such to come here. They were freed and given land to farm, normally 250 acres. In 1655, John Castor became the first black man that was legally indentured for life. He was owned by Anthony Johnson, a free black man. Short version. A back man was the first slave owner in America.
Reperations were paid in blood. 750,000 men died in the War.
Do the descendants of the soldiers killed trying to stop slavery get reparations?
Not even going to listen to the argument. NOBODY IN THE USA DESERVES REPARATIONS.
Reparations are inherently flawed. How do you put a monetary price on things which happened as much as hundreds of years ago? If we use the execuse of “Well it’s impacted my life today”, then a nah of cash isn’t going to change that person’s life, get them a better job, or stop racism from occurring.
Putting a price on racism is inherently racist.
I like hearing the opinions of modern africans on american slavery, modern african americans, and the push for reparations
Empty talk that will never happen. Well go to war again over that. Slavery has never benefitted me or my family. So I owe no black person anything
Do we collect roars money from Native Americans? They were the last to own slaves.
He should have ask him if blacks owed repetitions to their Irish slaves.
Where there majority of Irish were worked to death or starved.
Also in USA there were 2 black slave owners for each white slave owner.
3/4 of slaves were owned by black slave owners.
The black slaves came from cages on shore for sale that other tribes captured and caged to sell.
Africa economy was built on slave trade.
If we had to give reparations we'd have to do it for natives (still being robbed), Japanese (internment camps), Irish, Germans, Jewish, ect!!!
Lol @ natives still getting robbed. Such a silly view of things.
Natives have more privilege than any other group in the US. How are they still getting robbed?
The USSC has ruled on several different occasions it is unconstitutional to take from one specific group of people to give solely to another specific group of people. Cities that have passed reparations legislation have sneaky slime balls for mayors and city council members. They skirt the USSC rulings, and thus, the US Constitution, by taking "reparations" out of EVERY paycheck, including working p.o.c. They will claim it goes to improve black neighborhoods, but scant little, if any at all, is used to improve black neighborhoods. It gets redistributed anywhere but where they claim the money is earmarked for, mostly into the personal bank accounts of these corrupt mayors and their city council cronies under "Administrative Fees." Exactly what they file a lot of the state & federal funding received, under - "Administrative Fees". They are using the term "reparations" as a sleazy, underhanded, sneaky, new term for "tax". It's just another TAX taken from EVERY worker and aimed toward nothing & NO ONE in particular but themselves. Although, they might sprinkle a little bit towards patching sidewalk cracks.They will fight an audit tooth & nail. I wish Mr. Kirk would bring up the USSC cases rulings, and shine a spotlight on these sleazy so called "reparations" city leaders. Maybe then, more folks will start demanding regular (key word = REGULAR) audits of their Mayors, City Council, and, for the sake of inclusivity, County Commissioners too!
Thank you for taking the time to educate people who otherwise wouldn’t even watch Charlie Kirk. Good man 👏🏼
That was a wonderful video.
Exactly it's nothing but nonsense
Adding on to what Charlie said, where would we even draw the line for reparations? There’s not one race or religion that hasn’t suffered the same injustices people are saying they’re owed reparations for today. Slavery, inequality, attempts at or successful genocide im sure has happened more than once. What’s going to happen when the people demanding reparations are told who THEY owe either through history saying “you’re no better” or if they were told “you owe us $XX because of all the (insert crimes) this group of people committed 5 states over”?
Either the reparations would come full circle, or one of those groups would refuse to pay back anything and we’re back at square one anyway, but more poor than before.
It's also racist by assuming all slaves were black. There were lilly white Irish slaves as well. The first 2 legal slaves in America were owned by a black man named Anthony Johnson, and the slaves were a black African and white Irishman....
There’s more slaves today then there was 2/300 years ago
If it ever looked like reparations were seriously going to be doled out, i would invest everything I had into starting a luxury car dealership and a combination Nike/Gucci shop and dispensary. Within six months, I'd be rolling in all of their money and they'd be right back where they started, except with a Mercedes parked on the street in front of their house, Jordans on their feet, and a Gucci bag to carry their baby daddy's weed in.
There is an even bigger issue really. Who owes this money? Is it the person/people who captured and sold the slave or the person who purchased, legally at the time, the slave. Then of course theres the fact that if you asked 1000 blacks who want reperations and you asked them for the name of the slave and the slave owner and documentation to prove you are a descendant, 1000 of them would not be able to do it.
My ancestors in America never owned slaves. Many of them fought in the civil war to end slavery and were pro-equal rights for all. The other side were treated as badly as black people, for instance, many of their ethnicity were 2nd only to blacks in being lynched in the south. So, my taxes should not go to reparations. Instead of paying reparations to people who were never slaves, we should be freeing current slaves trafficked and kept in this nation. That's where the money should go - current victims of slavery.
I never owned any slaves, my family never owned any slaves, why should i pay?
A point about systemic and generational trauma. If it's true that the generation of freed slaves were traumatized, in turn traumatized their children and their children, etc. Then, ONLY the first generation is entitled to reparation, the subsequent generations were traumatized by THEIR parents and THEIR parents were the criminal.
Also, IF we are holding the children responsible for the crimes of their relatives, then we can hold relatives of criminals responsible for their relatives crimes? Can we sue the children of a rapist, murder, arsonist?
I never owned a slave and I never knew anyone who owned a slave. Also I have never known anyone who was a slave or anyone who knew someone who was a slave. In other words I've never been associated with slavery and I've never wanted to be associated with slavery in any way, shape or form so why should I pay anybody reparations?
My brother is a slave to his wife
Some people want free stuff and lastly yes there is a current slave trade going on out of Mexico and everything from the cartels women and children forced in as sex slaves it's absolutely horrific!
1:40 They’ve definitely gotten reparations from multiple European countries.
Furthermore, the Native Americans received land, and the Japanese were granted reparations for being interned during WWII.
The Native Americans received land at that time and the Japanese who were interned at that time received compensation, not some ancestors from over a hundred fifty years after slavery.
Its not retroactive . No one alive today is affected by slavery. PERIOD. End of statement.
It's not my fault, and I owe no one for something an ancestor I couldn't even name did hundreds of years ago.
But the Japanese won’t pay reparations to the Asian women they forced into sexual slavery (comfort women)
The majority of slaves that came from Africa were captured and sold into slavery by their own people from other, stronger, tribes. Greed was the cause of slavery. Slavery was the result of greed. So, why do the descendants of slaves want reparations from the slave owner's descendants? Why do they not ask the descendants of the bl@ck African and Arabian tribes that first enslaved them and marched them to the slave ships? So many perished on those journeys, more than the ones that made it and were then chained inside the holds of ships, where more of them perished at sea before finally being sold on slave blocks in the countries of destination. For every slave sold this way, four or five had perished from cruelty and/or hunger on the journey from their village to the farms and fields of their new 'owners'. Their 'owners' at least fed, clothed and housed them.
Love a man speaking facts! God bless
Some people have been told to play the victim card and hold out their hand . the real way forward is to take advantage of all this country offers. Anyone can make it big here, especially if they don't believe those who say they are incapable.
Logic and clarity of thinking is a beautiful thing
As the subject of reparations keeps popping up surely the only reparation that perhaps should be considered, if indeed one needs consideration, is the actual injustice to the modern African American whose ancestors were brought to America as slaves, is these descendants who obviously have proof to claim relationship as their birth right to Africa ( hence the African before American description) and they surely have that right, if it is their choice, to be returned to their ancestral land, at the total expense of the American government and claim their rightful ancestral citizenship there then surely this should be an open choice. If this became a choice for all who wanted what could be accepted as correct and fair reparations, would many African Americans take up this offer ? Surely many descendants of that shocking slave trade era have made comfortable lifestyles, opportunities and become millionaires and leading Americans in all walks of life in the USA. Probably not many would prefer the alternative now.
The funny thing is, I’ve seen a couple of African Americans who did in fact move back to their ancestral lands and then… complained that they weren’t welcome back by these people with open arms. Because to the natives, they’re nothing but foreigners invading their land, regardless of them having a similar skin color. And then the African Americans in question just complained about how their “brothers and sisters” don’t want them either.
EXACTLY Mr. Kirk 😊
You are right on brother.
It is a sad thing to know that most that do such, enjoy the power it grants them as well as the feelings of superiority it gives. Greed and pride combined.
You are soooo Right!
Makes so much sense
I'm all for reparations, any black person that can provide a birth certificate proving that they were born BEFORE... January 1st 1863 has the right to any reparations they want more power to you
they sell them on eBay
Absolutely correct. And even then reparations would be 40 acres and a mule as designated by law.
Well I have ancestors from all over the world and if an ancestor I couldn't even name had slaves. It's not my fault.
@@MatthewSmith-f2sWhites were enslaved to and it's very likely at this point two of your ancestors married each other and one side of the family owned slaves and the other were slaves going back several generations.
What gets me are the people that are so hung up on slavery that happened long before they were born, but say nothing about the slavery that is still happening all over the world. So glad that you brought that point up, I think all rational people can agree that slavery is wrong regardless of what race the of the people enslaved.
Thank you for the video.
One aspect of reparations has not been considered, to my understanding. If reparations are offered
and accepted, then the account of slavery is settled in full. No further accommodation in this
matter is owed. Where would Al Sharpton be then?
Why should someone have money from me for something i didn't do ,for something they have gone through.
Thank you! Finally common sense
Love your channel x
Sadly the problem is that they want everything handed to them. So many people are struggling, white, black, Mexican etc. We need to stop dividing and come together as one. Our Country needs healing.
Reparations is a tool for a much deeper division in America. Others say it’s just the opposite, which is totally wrong. If the reparations came from the actual person that owned the slave, then that would be part of their punishment for the crime, which would also include jail time. If you want to keep racism alive and division in our country, then reparations will do that. The citizens of today and many immigrants that have come to this country are not held accountable for what a dead person did over 150 years ago. Setting this kind of precedent is not something we should do, no one will win.
Slavery wasn’t a crime
@ correct, but it is today, and those that think they deserve “justice” are those that are alive today, not the victims from 150 years ago. Reparations are not legal under these circumstances, descendants are not made to pay for the crimes of their ancestors.
Ezekiel 18:20 - “The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; “
People get away with crimes all the time, but the innocent should not be made to pay the price.
It's to keep us devided we are easier to conquer separated
If Charlie’s dad committed murder should Charlie be sent to prison for the rest of his life for that.
Was he riding in the car with him???
I asked a girl why she believed she deserved reperations, and when she was done (two reasons later), I asked why Indigenous people shouldn't get reperations...she told me they DON'T need it. Indigenous people have gone through far more trauma than these people's ancestors were ever subject to. They deserve their sacred land back, not YOU.
"Not so much how is it just..."
Yeah, we noticed.
Very good commentary thank you
My grandfather came to America in the early 1900's. Explain why I owe anyone anything?
He came here with NOTHING but the shirt on his back as an Italian immigrant and built a family WITH NO GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS !!!
He escaped from the ACTUAL oppressive government at the time.
My question is, at what generation does reparation stop?? Do we give reparation to every black child that is born? Or is it only for ones that are alive today? It makes zero sense.
Where do people think this money comes from to pay all these causes? this is why this country is in MASSIVE debt. The working class is tired of paying for handouts.
Is it just and moral to take something from one group to give to another? Of course not, everybody says.
What if they call it "taxes?"
He should ask him if he is going to get off Native American land after he gets his "reparations."
The biggest issue with reperations is that the cost of living would increase to the point a loaf of bread would cost $1000.
Another thing to think about is where and when or what coming generation do the reparations stop ?
They want money for Any reason. Period.
Like paying child support for a child you never met to a woman that you dont know or ever screwed
1/2 my family came over around 1914, the other 1/2 are descended from the Northern Cheyenne... I had nothing to do with any of this...
This reparation has to disappear like yesterday!!!
This Perseverance speaks common sense.
Charlie with the W.
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