Could I survive a duel with Wild Bill Hickok? | black powder at long range

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  • @bigironbois
    @bigironbois  Год назад +18

    Filming this one was a little difficult as it started raining part way into filming. One day, I will have a truck and the dirt trails with a little rain won't be a problem lol
    Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed!

    • @abielbrantley4944
      @abielbrantley4944 Год назад

      I don’t know if you know this but the front sight on the navy
      Are small and that makes the gun shoot high so maybe if you aimed more down

    • @purpletothenurple9857
      @purpletothenurple9857 Год назад

      papi

    • @mistyqgaming5932
      @mistyqgaming5932 3 месяца назад

      Very good accuracy

  • @pokerspades2167
    @pokerspades2167 Год назад +71

    The “Cap and Bussy” is crazy

  • @StagFabulous
    @StagFabulous Год назад +41

    The shot patterning exercise was particularly enlightening. I did not realize that one shot could simultaneously place a projectile in the target's chest and a glob of hot grease in the target's eye. Very ungentlemanly. I would like one of these now.

  • @lc9072
    @lc9072 Год назад +3

    0:50 HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIIIS

  • @DK-gy7ll
    @DK-gy7ll Год назад +6

    While Hickok was known to be a very good shot I'm inclined to believe his fatal one-shot hit on Tutt was more a matter of luck than skill. I've seen a lot of GunTubers try this feat and it's nearly impossible to do on command, especially if drawing and firing within a couple seconds like Hickok did.

  • @sindento1942
    @sindento1942 Год назад +13

    I think Bill's success that day can be attributed mainly to luck. Sometimes being lucky is more effective than being good.

    • @johnmoore8067
      @johnmoore8067 Год назад +1

      I have heard a wise man say "I'll take lucky over good any day." and it's true. But being good is important. You won't always get lucky. "Luck favors the prepared."

    • @wis1024
      @wis1024 Год назад

      Im sure the distance was exaggerated, as was common in them days

    • @paulw3101
      @paulw3101 6 месяцев назад

      @@wis1024 And you know this because.........?

  • @ronalddunne3413
    @ronalddunne3413 Год назад +1

    Wild Bill Wm "Blind" Hickok couldnt SEE at 75 yards. Historical fact.

  • @axolotlauto
    @axolotlauto Год назад +6

    You're mighty proud of that "cap and bussy" comment.
    This is the best new gun channel in a long time. Likeable host, good topics, these jokes you should be ostracized from society for. Love it

    • @axolotlauto
      @axolotlauto Год назад

      Just finished it, "cap and bodied". This is my favorite gun channel with Lucky Gunner and Paul Harrell

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      @@axolotlautoit is an honor to be compared to those gentlemen ! Thanks for the comment

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 Год назад +4

    In 1999 i practiced this every Saturday for a year. I quit drinking and decided seeing if i could practice enough to make this shot was a construcive way to focuse my energy. Both can be done. I quickly learned swagged balls are your friend.

    • @FloridaCaptains
      @FloridaCaptains Год назад

      What is a swagged ball?

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад +1

      @@FloridaCaptains it's a ball that has been cold pressed from a solid bar of lead. It leads to a better bullet due to not having casting flaws. The more uniform the bullets the better the accuracy.

  • @abencherif
    @abencherif Год назад +1

    FIY the grease over the bullet is there to stop the possibilty of chainfire ie the sparks from the first shot igniting ALL the chambers at the same time. It was so common a practice with cap and ball that it was not mentioned.

  • @curtismarean6963
    @curtismarean6963 Год назад +4

    As one who has a colt navy, I can tell you that it takes time to get good with it. I was told by an old fellow that you need to go through at least a pound of powder to really get to know your gun.

  • @JazzForYourSoul
    @JazzForYourSoul Год назад +4

    I am truly blessed to have discovered this channel last week

  • @HighLordComedian
    @HighLordComedian Год назад +14

    Don't give this guy 5 minutes if you place him in a self defense situation

  • @paulbaker5920
    @paulbaker5920 Год назад +2

    I doubt the distance was 75 yards. I think it was more likely 75 feet. Supposedly both men were talking to each other across the square before the gunfight began. Have you ever tried talking to someone 75 yards away? It's pretty hard to do. Now try hitting a target that far away with a hand gun. That's even harder to do.

  • @martinlutz5446
    @martinlutz5446 Год назад +4

    75 yards is something that I would honestly have a hard time hitting even with a modern precision pistol, let alone an old west revolver. It miiiiight also be that no one actually took out a tape measure to see if it was actually 75 yards and some guy just went "yeah, that's about 75 yards" and everyone went with it for the legends sake.

    • @lipayy9852
      @lipayy9852 Год назад +1

      Imagine it was 25 ft and someone did the conversion to yards backwards lmao

  • @oregonoutback7779
    @oregonoutback7779 Год назад +3

    "I think that was a hit" ..... possible Bill Hickok quote.

  • @generalmalaise458
    @generalmalaise458 Год назад +1

    Why were they duelling at such a long distance? That could not have been common in the old west. I wouldn’t be able to tell for sure who I was shooting at at that range.

  • @carterlender
    @carterlender Год назад +3

    My man’s hasn’t missed once yet he’s 3 for 3

  • @johnbeck3270
    @johnbeck3270 Год назад +1

    This gives you some idea just how proficient these men like “Wild Bill” Hickok were with firearms. The one thing you didn’t mention, was the stance, these two were in what I would call a “dueling stance” slightly turned with the gun arm forward, this makes this a really amazing shot at the distance of 75 yards. This is the only real duel in the street Hollywood style shoot out.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot Год назад +1

      Or... it could be that the witnesses were unreliable and the account is extremely inaccurate.

  • @soldat7126
    @soldat7126 Год назад +1

    My son can hit 3 out of 6 regularly on a 12” square steel at 160yds with his 1851 in .38spl. And the 3 misses are right there. I used to laugh at the cowboy movies making 100yd pistol shots until I saw that.

  • @itsdestinie_
    @itsdestinie_ Год назад +3

    “A felony”😂😂😂

  • @garyruxton5226
    @garyruxton5226 3 месяца назад

    Dualist1954: "Making the Hickock Tutt Shot" video shows it isn't a problem making that shot on the first draw.

  • @Cobyba
    @Cobyba Год назад

    the sam reference had me in tears. great content man, keep it up!

  • @robertnewell5057
    @robertnewell5057 Год назад

    Extremely enjoyable. 75 yds (or 68 mtrs as they insist on saying nowadays here in the UK) is a long, long way to make a revolver shot. It is actually just under the length of my back yard, at which distance I can just recognise my cats.

  • @pontushaggstrom6261
    @pontushaggstrom6261 4 месяца назад

    "Shooting someone down in the street is what's commonly refered to as, uh, a felony"

  • @pendantblade6361
    @pendantblade6361 Год назад +1

    Commenting so the might algorythm bless this channel.

  • @dietpurple
    @dietpurple Год назад +4

    I hope these longer videos get more views! Appreciate your effort and production ☺️

  • @houardtredmond9112
    @houardtredmond9112 Год назад

    Okay, 'capn bussy' deserves a subscribe.

  • @Bogie3855
    @Bogie3855 Год назад +1

    I have a Pietta Single Action Army in 45LC and it is by far my fave pistol. Apparently according to Pietta it is a close enough copy that Colt parts will fit it. Always draws a crowd at the range and I have to bring some extra ammo cuz they ALWAYS want to shoot it. ALWAYS get a huge grin out of it and the ladies love it too.

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot Год назад

      I had to buy a sear/bolt spring for my 1st gen SAA (apparently they can wear out after 114 years), and it was listed as fitting in a few copies like the Pietta.
      Also have a '60s era German-produced 9/10 sized SAA clone in .22 with a .22 Mag cylinder and it's obvious they just scaled down the majority of working parts. They are SO CLOSE. In spite of the frame being zinc...
      So yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if a decently-built clone wouldn't have interchangeability with most or all of the parts from an original.

  • @geocentricism1106
    @geocentricism1106 Год назад +1

    “Cap and bodied me” 😂 so you’re Tut in this scenario

  • @BogeyTheBear
    @BogeyTheBear Год назад

    5:45 It's fairer to say that these are in fact 1860 Army revolvers, but fitted with the older style barrels from the 1851. The cylinder is longer than you find in a .36 caliber gun and is identical to the 1860 Army's cylinder. The forcing cone is shortened on that 1851-style barrel as a result, meaning it is impossible for you to fit that .44 caliber barrel onto an actual .36 Navy because there is too much of a gap between barrel and cylinder.

  • @zsmith62
    @zsmith62 Год назад

    On the square in downtown Springfield, MO, you can see the spots where each man stood.

  • @DontDoDaylight
    @DontDoDaylight Год назад +11

    Oh, man! No way… you’re combining historical events with comedy and extremely high production quality 👌 I’ve honestly never even considered using your forearm as a “rest”, haha! To be fair, most people couldn’t hit these shots with their everyday carry 🤷‍♂️ hits sound good! We can all use a little practice. Very cool video and shout-out to your buddy for helping film! I also had no clue that those handguns were designed for longer ranges… kinda reminds me of rifles back when that had sights adjustable to 1,000+ meters. Awesome!

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад +3

      Love your feedback as always my man! I imagine the long range was due to it being developed when Napoleonic tactics were still used, so if you were close enough for a standard pistol shot, then there could be 100 other people pointing rifles back at you. Best to engage from a safer distance lol. Using my arm as a rest didn't feel like it helped much, but I am sure that is all just my lack of practice. Thanks for checking in!

  • @sgtstedanko7186
    @sgtstedanko7186 Год назад +1

    Part of me thinks Wild Bill got lucky with his shot

  • @paulw3101
    @paulw3101 6 месяцев назад

    The cap'n ball Colts shot high. Need a taller front sight like seen on Wild Bill's actual Colt pistols.

  • @losonsrenoster
    @losonsrenoster Год назад

    The Colt 1851 Navy would have been the better choice at 75 yards, mine, with a ball and 20gr blackpowder load tends to shoot high at 15 yards, and (sort of) on target at 75 yards. But my 1858 Remington new army with a ball and 25gr blackpowder tends to consistently shoot about 40 inches low at 75 yards.

  • @ethankaryadi37
    @ethankaryadi37 Год назад

    A more preferable control item would be a Target style revolver chambered in .38 special imo.

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      When the ad money comes in and pays for it, no problem lol

  • @MegaDavyk
    @MegaDavyk Год назад +1

    Davis Tutt won that watch fair and square. Wild Bill killed him for wearing his new watch.

    • @johnwarren1445
      @johnwarren1445 Год назад

      Research before opening mouth,Tutt did not WIN the watch he took it as collateral for what he claimed was a past debt.

  • @losonsrenoster
    @losonsrenoster Год назад

    Also, it is interesting that you load all six cylinders on that Colt. Many people do not consider the shallow slot for resting the hammer between percussion caps a good enough safety feature, and prefer to load only 5. But I have been loading all six for 15 years now and never had anything close to a mishap,

    • @johnbeck3270
      @johnbeck3270 Год назад

      Remington has a very similar design feature, I don’t think the cylinder could ever move into firming position with the hammer in that slot and the combined pressure of the main spring. Really fun guns to shoot.

  • @jerimahmerritt4276
    @jerimahmerritt4276 Год назад

    " that ain't dodge city and you ain't Bill Hickock"

  • @History_with_Sirius
    @History_with_Sirius Год назад

    I just recently started getting into black powder, randomy got recommended this video, clicked on it because why not. Then the cap and bussy phrase was uttered and you have earned and instant sub 😂

  • @seabertotter4325
    @seabertotter4325 Год назад

    I think that Wild Bill was closer than 75 yds. Don't most legends become exaggerations? Same with Bass Reeves' 500 yard Winchester shot in the Arbuckle Mtns of Oklahoma killing a desperado.

  • @kaplox
    @kaplox Год назад

    Love your humor and content, dude! I'm definitely gonna stick around!

  • @Obviousalter
    @Obviousalter Год назад +1

    Think it, dream it, do it! But also tips for zeroing a 1860 army, i know its dumb but i think it would be really funny if it were actually accurate.

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад +1

      Think it, dream it, Do it!

    • @dudearlo
      @dudearlo Год назад

      they are actually quite accurate xD
      www.youtube.com/@oldranger3044
      this man will show you :]

  • @danielcurtis1434
    @danielcurtis1434 Год назад

    Hey I’m curious, try making the Billy Dixon shot. This is a 1,538 yard shot with a Sharps rifle (iron aperture sight) in .50-90 black powder? I’ve never heard of anyone attempting it. I believe it is arguably harder than the 2.2 mile shot with a scope and modern smokeless cartridge. It’s a round nose bullet maybe going 1,450 FPS at absolute maximum. Then consider it’s a round nose…

  • @blackhawk65589
    @blackhawk65589 Год назад +1

    I bet if you had more time shooting at that distance, you would be able to hit it more often. I'll be honest and say I don't practice that far with handguns. Wild Bill was a crack shot and I'm willing to bet he carried a Colt Navy in the Civil War, knowing how effective his pistol(s) was

  • @RCZM64
    @RCZM64 Год назад +1

    Nice shooting, sir.
    My absolute best with a black powder revolver, a Navy replica (old, by Armi San Marco), was one hit at third try at 50 meters can barely compare.

  • @johnsparling2625
    @johnsparling2625 Год назад

    The grease is also to prevent a "chain fire"

  • @danielcurtis1434
    @danielcurtis1434 Год назад

    Man I don’t get why anyone would buy an 1851 in .44??? The whole advantage of an 1860 is it’s a 1851 frame with a .44 cylinder. So instead of having a small frame for the gun you have instead made the frame bigger to make the proportions correct for an 1851. So you have a sized up 1851??? Why when you could go lighter handier and better in every way with a more common 1860??? The fact it’s not historically accurate is just the icing!!!
    I think I’d love a colt pocket navey!!! The best reproduction pocket gun I’ve seen. I understand some guns like the Lemat that came in .42 caliber with 18 gauge shotgun, it makes sense to turn it to the common .44 and 20 gauge (they actually made 20 gauge American models but French were usually 16-18). However an 1851 .44 is just a WTF situation!!!

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      Free market, free country bröther.

  • @PickleRick65
    @PickleRick65 Год назад +1

    You should have used a man-sized target. More realistic and might have got you more hits

  • @niclbicl
    @niclbicl Год назад

    Beautiful Video loved every Minute of it!

  • @Arariel3
    @Arariel3 Год назад

    Brilliant video!

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot Год назад

    How big was the gong? Depending on the size, 75 yards is a pretty respectable shot even with a modern defensive pistol... with iron sights.
    Slide mounted red dots are another story.

  • @jeffadams9807
    @jeffadams9807 Год назад

    I Think Wild Bill Made
    A "LUCKY" Shot On
    Dave Tutt !!!

  • @stevenbaker9327
    @stevenbaker9327 Год назад

    My 1851 shoots a foot high at 10 yds.! Should be close at 75...though I've never tried it!

  • @EverythingZen01
    @EverythingZen01 Год назад

    Its 2am im outside your apartment. And i have to defend myself

  • @PlayerSalt
    @PlayerSalt Год назад

    fun little video, shame so few views but it did pop up in recommended after a Johnny Johnson video so hopefully picking up

  • @ShellShock11C
    @ShellShock11C Год назад

    "Cap and bodied" lol

  • @Smooth-operations88
    @Smooth-operations88 Год назад

    Just subscribed, awesome content. Keep up the great work.

  • @wilmamcdermott3065
    @wilmamcdermott3065 Год назад

    I have done 75 yard shots 44 1860 army

  • @tmartin3151
    @tmartin3151 Год назад +2

    You gotta get in front of the camera more. You have great potential to be a big channel. Your content is gold!

  • @dave-d-grunt
    @dave-d-grunt Год назад

    I read the Colt .36 was factory zeroed at 75 yds. I don’t know if it’s true.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Год назад

    Great video...👍

  • @Conan117117
    @Conan117117 Год назад

    now the big question is can Wild Bill Hickok outshoot a modern boi with a roland special?

  • @tonyffessm233
    @tonyffessm233 Год назад

    Awseome ! Thanks for those old Black powder gun videos. Please do more Cap and ball videos. God bless you and best regards from France ! Tony

  • @BigSlurm
    @BigSlurm Год назад

    Love your vids homeboy. Super curious, do you use black powder or a substitute like pyrodex?

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      Black powder when I can get my hands on it, but this one was done using Pyrodex P

  • @alrandall5264
    @alrandall5264 Год назад

    How does the POA compare with the POI? Would WBH have had to hold over or hold under? I have seen a similar re-enactment that suggested that the shooter had to hold under. Why not put a large card behind the target to see the actual POI?

  • @marksprague1280
    @marksprague1280 Год назад

    You should have adjusted your firing point and target location to put the target against that dirt bank in the background. That way you could have observed your misses and learned the ballistics involved. You were just throwing lead downrange in a (very) slow version of spray and pray. 😁

  • @bryantb3391
    @bryantb3391 Год назад

    Man when I first started shooting pistols I couldn't hit a can 5 feet away I've hit a plate at 50 yards and even that was pretty difficult good shooting wish there was more cap and ball revolver stuff to watch maybe do some paper cartridge reloads

  • @rogerackert6573
    @rogerackert6573 Год назад

    Hickock didn't use a Colt Navy. That day he had a 44 Colt Dragoon. Also, original Colts were more acurate than todays repros because the rifling was slower. And, was it really 75 yards?

    • @johnwarren1445
      @johnwarren1445 Год назад +1

      Dont know where you get your info from.Eye witness accounts say he used an 1851 Colt Navy.

    • @zsmith62
      @zsmith62 Год назад +1

      You can see the spots where each man stood on the town square in downtown Springfield, MO.

  • @revengense7604
    @revengense7604 Год назад

    Sam hide sneaking down in the corner there lol

  • @Pinzul91
    @Pinzul91 Год назад

    Very cool video! Good shooting!

  • @robertrobert7924
    @robertrobert7924 Год назад

    I have been shooting BP guns since 1979. I really enjoy your channel. Next week when the weather clears up, I hope to shoot my Pietta Colt Army with attached shoulder stock @ 50 yards. I am part Cherokee(Eastern) and was wondering if you have a tribal affiliation ? I worked at the National Museum of the American Indian, Smithsonian, Washington, DC from 2000 - 2004.

  • @13lb
    @13lb Год назад

    you know what thay say practice makes perfict ... thay dont say how much practice you need..

  • @ShellShock11C
    @ShellShock11C Год назад

    Just bought a new 1860 Army to go with my Navy. Is that belt from Historical Emporium? Does it fit either model?

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад +2

      I actually got it used from a pile of old holsters at a gun shop. But it fits my Navy Sheriff and my full length navy well enough. Congrats on your new purchase!!

    • @ShellShock11C
      @ShellShock11C Год назад

      @@bigironbois Pew pew

  • @isaiahjohnson9905
    @isaiahjohnson9905 Год назад +2

    🤠

  • @matsnaslund5762
    @matsnaslund5762 Год назад

    Only proves Hickock was a better shooter then U!

  • @jeffshootsstuff
    @jeffshootsstuff Год назад +2

    Cool video. Subscribing. I seriously doubt Bill Hickok would have rested his gun on his forearm, particularly since witnesses said he drew and fired almost at once.

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the sub! I read that he had done that from a few places. Even some illustrations of it exist. I don’t practice with that stance much but honestly it didn’t seem to help much lol

  • @andrewprice1774
    @andrewprice1774 9 месяцев назад

    Colts shoot high!!!

  • @shilohpacheco48
    @shilohpacheco48 Год назад +3

    Is your pose purposely. Marty robbins.if so cool your awfully young to know bout him.

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад +2

      It is! Thanks for noticing! 🙂

  • @randyguapo7793
    @randyguapo7793 Год назад

    OKAY YOUR NOT WILD BILL WELL BYE !!!!

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      That’d be pretty weird if I was. I’d be like 185 years old making videos about dueling myself. 😂

  • @norgtube
    @norgtube Год назад

    NO EDITS

  • @jason60chev
    @jason60chev Год назад

    Maybe Hickok just got lucky?

  • @AaronKuo-tg5sw
    @AaronKuo-tg5sw Год назад

    Back old time, that guy who was gunned down by bill definitely need a glock. You got nice 6 shots with glock 19❤

  • @khester7397
    @khester7397 Год назад

    It's not an easy shot, and there are a lot of variables at play.
    How does the saying go? Something about fearing the man with just one gun, cause he knows how to use it?

  • @WV591
    @WV591 Год назад

    Gongs don't shoot back

    • @bigironbois
      @bigironbois  Год назад

      They do if you stand close enough 😉

  • @patrickfreeman8257
    @patrickfreeman8257 Год назад

    Is that YOU moving around like that or your camera man?

  • @jeffmorga7111
    @jeffmorga7111 Год назад

    Yeah... I could have taken out with a sling- shot..
    That longer barrel needs to be very clean..
    The consistancy of the lead, diffrent today.. = super clean bore..soft lead to hook up with bore better..
    The greese, hold the spark back..in the older revolver.. It tends to grime up the barrel ..
    My choice for that distance..
    .357 wetren marshall..
    Back in those days, we had nothing but time, to make these longer shots possable..
    and finding what made this easy... = spin that projectile..😮...

  • @rickhunt3183
    @rickhunt3183 Год назад +1

    No you would not have survived a duel with Wild Bill. Wild bill had experience facing another man with a gun and not shitting his pants. Shooting paper plates at the range does not prepare someone to face a man that's shooting back. In a real modern gunfight someone great at the range may fire 15 rounds from 15 feet and hit nothing. When someone is facing another man that's also shooting, it's a whole different story. Wild Bill had balls and wasn't afraid to die.

  • @rev.dr.davidcole8915
    @rev.dr.davidcole8915 Год назад

    Alec Baldwin can hit Halyna Hutchins from 75 yards.😢

  • @marktombazian6490
    @marktombazian6490 Год назад +1

    You didn't controll your breath...the gun was waving all over the place..breathe out, aim, squeeze....easy shot with that gun if you've practiced a lot. Wild Bill had practiced a lot....good at 100 yards if you know what you're doing...

  • @joeyhunter842
    @joeyhunter842 Год назад

    You are a crummy shot

  • @WillyBilly-pp6rj
    @WillyBilly-pp6rj Год назад

    I love ur vids please keep them up

  • @nagatouzumaki8227
    @nagatouzumaki8227 Год назад

    You not even holding it right