New Exhaust and Seat Test + Trail Riding on the Honda CRF300L Rally
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The Honda CRF300L Rally is a great bike that can be made even better with a few performance and comfort mods. I recently added the Graves full stainless Honda CRF300L exhaust and a Seat Concepts Comfort XL seat to the bike and on this ride we're out doing some Honda CRF300L trail riding to put these new mods to the test.
Immediately I noticed a big difference with the new Honda CRF300L Rally Exhaust from Graves. Their website claims you can get 15% more horsepower with just the exhaust alone and based on the butt dyno readings, I'd say that's close to accurate. Speaking of my butt, the Seat Concepts Honda CRF300L Rally seat is a complete game changer in terms of comfort. This thing is so wide and offers all day comfort without giving up too much off road riding ability, as I tested by taking the Honda CRF300L trail riding in this video.
Riding the CRF300L off road is a dream under normal circumstances, and today's dual sport trail riding test was no exception. It was a fantastic test of the new 300L rally exhaust and seat and I have to say that both new CRF300L mods passed the test with flying colors today.
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Honda CRF300L Rally Mods:
Graves CRF300L Full Stainless Exhaust: www.gravesport.com/products/honda-crf300l-full-stainless-exhaust.html
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I agree with a few other comments...Dyno those 15% claims !!
Dyno chart on their website.
I want that exhaust but 90% of the riding I do is trespassing so i have to stick to my quiet little stock exhaust that sounds like a sewing machine sneaking through the forest.
😂😂😂😂 Maine = 95% private
Just started watching your 7 things i wish i knew before buying a adv bike. Yes i agree.
I came from riding offroad trails since i was 10 (24 now).
Started on a late 80's xr100. When i was 14 i got a 2006 crf230f. Then when i was 18 i got a 2004 yz250f, still have the yz but it has sat for a few years due to trucking taking up time, not having anyone to ride with and needing new valves.
Currently I have a 2018 250l with that i bought a few weeks before starting a trip with my 2010 Ford Ranger and camping gear (small lift, bumper, winch, stiffer leaf springs, rooftop tent, hitch carrier, fridge, stove, etc.) and the bike on the back, from Manitoba through ND, SD (Black hills roads are a ton of fun), NE, OK, TX, NM, AZ, NV, CA (redwoods were really cool), back through NV, now im in Utah.
Ive always worn motorcross boots when riding offroad, and now with the 250l i still do when i know im going to hit some trails that day. I've put about 750 miles on the bike so far, loving it. (Did oil and filter when i got it).
Part or my inspiration for the 250l was Noraly (Itchy Boots), found your channel about a week ago.
I really liked and was surprised riding my buddies 300L Rally. Good wind protection, great gas mileage, and surprisingly comfortable. Doesnt hurt it looks cool too. I was considering buying it.
Cons- at 215, the suspension is laughably under damped. It felt dangerous to me offroad (whihc likely wasnt helped by the stock tires). It would need minimum springs front and rear for my weight with gear and luggage.
While I would love to mod one, spending the money when my 890 ADV R does it all and is almost *done* mod wise doesnt make sense for me.
I will say this... its the best beginner ADV bike the market. Upgrade the suspension, protrction, maybe steel braid the brake lines, get rackless luggage and comfort mods and live your Itchy Boots fantasy.
You wont lose money buying it both due to the market and the fact its a beginner bike.
Looks and sounds really good! Nice upgrades!
After 10 years of not riding, I just bought myself a 300 Rally this weekend. Definitely, some upgrades in the near future. Awesome content brother!
I'm impressed you were able to find one ;)
@@DorkintheRoad Oh so was I!
I drove 6 hours one way to get it. Totally worth it!
I think what you're actually feeling is the torque increase that comes in around 3600 rpm. There is really no substantial increase in HP until 6500 rpm and you ride in the lower rev range. Hardly any trail riders that have one of those bikes is going to rev the bike enough to really get any advantage from the pipe.
Any street legal bike will benefit from an accessory exhaust. Factory pipes are restricted to minimize noise. You open the pipe and the bike can breathe properly but there is more noise. And the engine draws more air which makes the mixture leaner.
I think the 15% claim is optimistic and I wonder if the dyno numbers are measured with the spark arrestor installed. But, the pipe is no doubt lighter so that is a big advantage. I'd keep an eye on the fuel mixture.
I loved my 250l and now I have aT7 which I really enjoy on road and off. The one thing that I really miss is the weight difference between the T7 and the 250L which makes me want to sell my T7 and get a 300L.
me watching this video with my CRF1000L2
2-4 HP gain would not surprise me. Looks like a nice upgrade along with the Seat Concepts seat.
The exhaust sounds and looks great. Seat Concepts is worth every penny.
I put a 20 buck walmart seat cushion on mine with 10 cents of paracord .
Picking up my 2023 Rally for $5500! Already has a seat concepts seat and then after I Completely upgrade it with Rally Raid level 2 suspension, full Yoshi exhaust system, and a few other bits and pieces I’ll be in about $8,000. An absolute steal. I plan on keeping this bike for a very long time
As an owner of a KLX250, I like to keep the mirror on the left side and the camera on the right side. It give me a better perspective of vehicles passing me on the way to the trails,
Jeeze! I've got almost 4K in mods on my Rally already ! Now your going to make me spend another 1K which I swore I wouldn't do :-(
Which are your mods ?
I just found one myself and picking it up this weekend. Now we have 4 ponies in the stable. If I can only find time to ride now.
Great video! I wouldn't have believed it either but now I can. Keep up the Rally vids.
My seat concepts seat for my Gas Gas ES700 has finally shipped. I can't wait to sit on both ass checks at once instead of having to swap.
😂
Give the seat a thousand miles before you make a judgment call. It’s got to break in. You probably know this but just gonna say it anyways.
Thinking about getting one of those 300’s after a bit, still outfitting my 1250GSA.
It is amazing to see how you have improved with your riding skills since you start your chann. Way to go keep your content coming enjoy the camping as well.
Nice upgrades! See ya at the Giant Loop ride!! Gettin' stoked!!!
Watching on my phone while test camping a new tent and sleeping mat in the backyard 👍🏻
Seat looks really cool. Great area to ride in, so pretty
I have a Moto x v2 full pipe, performance air filter, 550 air box lid and 550 performance tune. Its a big difference. Way smoother faster and engine breaking is better.
Love your rally and all the mods! I put a new exhaust on my XT-250 and it made a noticeable difference in power and it sounds really cool too!
What exhaust did you put on the XT-250?
@bikesbabes4721 I put a FMF Powercore 4 Slip-on Exhaust on it. There wasn’t a huge difference in power but it was noticeable and there is a noticeable difference in the weight of it and it sounds cool 😂
Dude, love your videos. You got me sold on the Rally. Got my DRZ400 up for sale right now. One question, how tall are you? One reason thinking of changing bikes is wanted something a bit lower
That is a sexy bike sheesh I'm jealous, great vid dork !
There’s no consequence like getting more free product to review! That’s what I always say! 👍🏼
The exhaust sounds like you removed a stick from the bikes butt and it’s nuts dropped.
You have a Silky, this is the time of year you don't want to forget it. Trails need cleaned up after the winter, always carry your Silky in the spring. My buddy and I cut two good sized trees out of the road last week. If we wouldn't have had the Silky we wouldn't have been able to complete the loop.
I usually carry it on riding trips. Didn't really think about it for just screwing around testing a new exhaust in the woods.
I love my rally even though I had to wait like 7 months to get mine definitely worth the wait
Beautiful trail, definitely. Love your content
That 300 is starting to seem pretty BDR ready! 450 out....
Great video. good info. I will mod my exhaust to a Graves!!!
Man. That’s a good looking bike with those mods. Sometimes I wish I got the rally instead of the KLR
What an awesome trail bike!!
Great video!
Sweet! Mod expense adding up! Nice sound
I can't tell you how many times I have been up Shotgun for hunting and 4x4 fun. Probably not as many times as my kids have went to bonfires up there, but it was a lot. I am looking forward to riding up there next spring once I am able to get a bike.
Looks and sounds amazing great upgrade brother 👊
I'm pretty happy with it.
@@DorkintheRoad that's really what it's all about making it better for you but sharing with us all is just the icing on the cake
Man, I live in Albany and ride that way and would love to go for a ride with you some time. I'll call out to go for a ride any time! 😂 P. S. Our kids go to school together and I've been watching your vids for a long time and you got me where I am today... 2023 klx300 and a '23 Ducati Street scrambler nightshift. ❤
You're off road riding skill has really progressed. I'm impressed 👍 would you consider yourself an intermediate or professional off road rider at this point?
noob
Can’t decide between this and the KLX300
You’re gonna melt your turn signal. LOL. Sounds great
The 300 rally was my dream bike but impossible to find one or at 10K…..with my big butt it was 1500$ for suspensions…so more than 12K for a 300…nope.I finished with a new KLR base model for 6500 out of the door.
Klr300?
@@easternncbigfoot1288 no Honda CRF300L rally.
@@FrancoisTX1974 You just said you purchased a KLR, I was asking if it was the 300 lol.
@@easternncbigfoot1288 KLR 650
@@FrancoisTX1974 Ahh, ok. Nice!
"Graves sent me this because they liked the video I did in the 450l exhaust they sent me" says it all, free future products for future content.
I will say Graves makes quality products BUT as lean as these bikes come from the factory to pass EPA you may get away with a slip on without mapping changes but I do not believe in a true freer flowing full system that the engine is not running dangerously lean!
And the only way you can verify the HP increases of such a small amount because these bikes are such a low hp stock would be to dyno before and after install and even then usually if you get a higher rpm gain you will see a lower rpm torque loss.
The added noise is making your butt dyno think it is doing better than it actually is real world I would bet.
We have no ongoing agreement and I don't have any more bikes they make products for, but if you still want to believe I'm being dishonest, I guess that's your prerogative.
@@DorkintheRoad Difference is not saying you are dishonest only you have a reason to not badmouth their products as you make money off of the content you create.
I have always had more faith in reviews for all products that the reviewer actually bought and paid for out of their own pocket as there is then the removal of the very incentive I am talking about.
I have an extra Flatland skidplate for the rally if you are looking for one. I bought a B&B instead. I am in Tigard.
I tried buying a seat using the discount code, but Seat Concepts indicated that the limit has already been reached.
Same
@@robertschmeidler62 SAME here
Same
Super same
Did the exhaust make difference on the highway at highway speeds buddy
Just curious, do you have any future plans to flash the ECU? I did mine and it made a ton of difference, that along with an exhaust like this would really make the little bike come alive in my opinion. Great looking exhaust for sure.
... Wing, with the ECU re-flash, was there any "re-tuning" needed. I don't want to get into stuff like that.
Seeking all the power I can squeeze out of my 300 rally and keep the reliability. Exhaust first.
Thanks,
. Jeff .
I've been worndering when you were going to upgrade the seat. I rode about 120 street miles yesterday on the stock seat, and it was brutal. A seat concepts upgrade is def in my future. As for the exhaust, how do you get away without a tune too? The 300s run so lean from the factory, im surprised that you can get away with it. Are you going to do the 550 Performance or something similar in the future?
1100 USD for the exhaust so.... be damn sure you wanna keep this little bike
I came here to find a reason not to get one these bikes and now i want one more
Did you have to add a tuner and open up the air box? Why is your engine light on?
I have to agree with your power increase with the exhaust, mine is also stock and the exhaust made a noticeable increase like no other bike I have had. Some other bikes I have only sounded better but ran lean without other mods. Not so the 300l. I won’t modify the air filter or fuel mixture in any way runs perfect now.
... I looked at your videos and you have a FMF exhaust? Did you change TO the Graves or FROM the Graves or not have a Graves at all?
Thanks
@@240LTS Graves?
@@ianbray3580 Yes, Ben/Dork is talking about his Graves exhaust and you agreed with him on the power increase therefore anyone reading your reply would think you also had the same Graves exhaust.
Thank you.
@@240LTS I think any aftermarket exhaust will free it up the stock exhaust is so restrictive
@@ianbray3580 ... Thanks.
By opening up the exhaust are we leaning out the bike at all? Or would that only be a concern on an intake air restriction improvement? Nice. Nice mods but that stuff starts adding up so very fast….
Hi! Nice mods! And the trails look smooth, fun. Where is that? Please share a link and or suggestion.
Gee i ordered mine from Fox valley Honda in Aurora Illinois. No mark up at all , was during height of covid waited 2 months. Ask for Chuck
There no way that exhaust adds 15%! I’ve seen numerous exhaust videos where they actually dyno the bike before and after and I’ve never seen an exhaust even come close to 15%!
Dyno charts on their website.
chart shows about 4hp gain at ~8200 rpm, that's in the zone of 15%
@@DorkintheRoadStill seems too good to be true 🤷♂️
awesome video, where are you riding?
Dang it the seat concepts discount didn't work for me, either.
I emailed them. Hopefully they get it fixed.
Hi Jeff on my 300 crf 550 performance had the rear shock new spring for 100kg revalved yes it can be done revalved front shocks with new springs by sr moto
NZ $1200 clever guy home built exhaust with aliexpress muffler works great more power can pull away from my mates up hill that weigh 25 kg less than me bash plate Handel bar risers new Handel bars leaver guards Bike rack new leavers new tyres foot pegs dropped the tool box all up $2500 NZ dollars cheers keep staying upright ps Biker bits for Honda parts so cheap
You feeling power to weight ratio, that stock system weighs about 13 pounds
Been going back and forth between the Rally and the XR650L. I like the Rally's lighting, speedometer/odometer, windscreen and USB port. I like the XR's suspension, power and reputation (also the fact that it's still made in Japan). The XR is $500.00 more than the ABS Rally still with it's age and "antiqueness". How would you compare the two? Also, does your Rally have the ABS? I haven't read much about the pros/cons of this on reviews?
Carb vs fuel injection is a big difference. FI is easier to repair on the road and doesn't vary as much based on temp/altitude like carb. Rally has fuel gauge, does 650?
A technical question here: is a louder/noisy muffler the price that one has always to pay to have better performances?
I am wondering the same.
Sounds sweet! Speaking of - which editing suite are you using? I’m on Davinci and love it!
Disclaimer: No apologies given for dad jokes or puns. 😂
I just switched to premiere pro
@@DorkintheRoad My condolences 😆 But seriously - I came from Premiere. Great software. Just came down to the subscription fee for me.
@@advmike I still get my educator discount ;)
Dammit Dorkin', now I have to get a small dual sport like that. Looks too fun. Also, I saw a little leafy branch miss your eye by like an inch or so. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
I don’t like the fact that I have to sacrifice my stock heat shield for an aftermarket exhaust on this bike. I don’t like those small aftermarket heat shields that barely cover the exhaust. I will be trying to fabricate a way to retain the stock one.
I’m not shocked at all that every little thing I do to this bike I feel a difference, because it is so restricted! That 12lb exhaust you removed was chocking the heck out of this motor. You should get the ECU and air box mod, it helps in more ways than one... For $150 it’s worth every penny.
I put the GL heat shield on mine and it's great. You can hardly see it and the bag is nowhere near the hot exhaust. I'd suggest giving them a second look. So long as your bag isn't touching the exhaust directly, you're golden.
@@DorkintheRoad I’ll have to check those out.
That 15% increase is in your dream only, and the companies selling parts as well of course.
the exhaust sounds great, did it come with a spark arrestor?
No one really wants a loud bike, but extra torque is appreciated. Have you modded the suspension which I have read totally sucks? Does your bike have ABS:?
If you think thats good, wait untill you try one with the velocity stack/ecu/exhaust combo, different bike
Not a chance you get 15% with only an exhaust, maybe 3hp. Just to compare, a KLX250 punched out to 351cc with full exhaust and air box mod gained maybe 8hp.
The 300L has 27 horsepower in stock form. 3hp would be 11%. Not 15, but close.
Retail on a full Graves exhaust is $1,098 plus tax plus delivery so cont me out. Yoshi is about half that.
I added a 550 performance ecu better performance again and runs cooler cheers
... Howard, did you have to do anything else after the 550? Re-tune anything?
Thanks,
Jeff
Any impact of fuel economy? 🤔
Hey Dork ! Very very enjoyable video with super nice footage!
Some questions:
1. From an overall perspective what separates this bike or the normal 300L from the Himalayan... to the point of making you get this and not the Himi ?
2. Comparing to the 250 you had ... is this far more enjoyable?
I'm thinking about the 300LS... but it seems that although you look quite taller you aren't that tall... how tall are you?
Discount code for Seat Concepts doesn't work. Nice video, though.
where does the color of the exhaust match the blue color of the dekor?
Yay Shotgun! Glad to see it's dried out.
Have you used a Trail-Tail? Looking to get one for the KLR to pull a kayak.
Is that like some kind of sex thing? Never heard of it.
@@DorkintheRoad oh hun, if I was looking for that advise, I wouldn't come to you.
Nice upgrades! Any worry that the new exhaust may melt the turn signal?
I have absolutely no doubt he already did.
G'day from Oz did you do the suspension trying to work out the order of mods i do. I pick up my 300r rally in 3 weeks
"Dorky motorcycle shenanigans"
Hola amigo.
Have you noticed any additional fuel consumption or extra engine effort (higher RPMs) with this exhaust?
Greetings from Costa Rica!
I saw you and your wife this weekend in the produce section. Didn't want to bother ya since we all know men just wanna get in and out of the grocery store as fast as possible.
LOL too true. It's fine to say a quick hello, though.
I wish this was legal here in Sweden. Got a gazillion gravel roads though… 🤷
Mine was under 6000 bucks USA, Kawasaki bold new graphics only upgrade in 20 years?
$1000 for a thumper exhaust!? I’m in the wrong line of work.
I got one of seat concepts seats for my 300 Rally 1 year ago but there is no way in hell I can get the front tab under the seat to slip under, maybe after my complaint to them they widened the front edges of the seat because I think they were making them as if the 300L and the 300L rally were the same at that frontal area, which they are not. They wanted me to supply dimensions, really?
Amazing trails! I’d love to ride there. Where is this?
Oregon I believe.
Hey Buddy i bought the Graves full exhaust for the 300 rally after your review but i cant seem to fit the outback motortek crashbara with the bracket mount it sits almost right on the headers … how did you get the crashbars on there. I took it too a shop too and they said they didnt know either. Please let me know my man i would really appreciate it
Put a 550 tune in it now and give us a review dork
how do you compare iyho the late yamaha wr-250 enduro vs this 300L for dual sport? pawleeP
How'd you go getting the larger diameter Graves header pipe around the crash bar mounting bracket on the right hand side? I've ground the gusset out, but it looks like I'll have to take some meat out of it as well.
Any idea how it compares to the Yoshi exhaust ? In terms of power gains ?
... Same question I am seeking. I am leaning to a full exhaust system and only want to do it once.
This Graves is more expensive than the Yosh and others BUT, it is does make a noticeable difference I may spend the extra $$.
I DO NOT want to get into re-tuning, etc.
. Jeff .
@@240LTS Yeah. But in the meantime, I found out that it is quite a bit louder than the stock exhaust. I am now looking at the Moto X exhaust, but getting confused between the different versions.
Dork what's you height and weight?
👍👍👍
don't make an exhaust for the KLR....😪
Does this work for the crf 300l too or just the rally?
Regarding the Graves exhaust, obviously, noise in the middle of nowhere is not a big issue, but they state that it is, “For closed course use only”. I ride in a populated area. Would you not recommend it in that case? Seems lighter and more powerful that the Yosh.
All aftermarket exhausts say that. None of them are technically street legal. It's pretty loud for sure, though.
Maybe you've been asked this before, and perhaps not, but have you encountered anything slightly squatchy while you've been out on your adventures?
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They live and ride in prime Bigfoot country.
Travis, Explore Adventure Moto (#stayhairy 🤘) Ben's good friend, camps by himself in that wilderness. NOT ME!!!!
. Jeff .
Yeah the seat alone adds 5%
Will they ever produce a 300 for the US?
Had a Yoshi on my 300l and loved it. Did you swap out the ECU ? I had the 550 on mine and worked well.
Stock ECU so far.
@@DorkintheRoad look into the 550 it cleans a few things up and for the price I found it worth it.
@@scottsmith1897
1. Did you get the stock ECU one re-flashed or buy a new one?
2. Did anything else have to be done to the engine like a re-tune that I read so much about?
I totally do not understand any of it? What is actually re-tuned and who I could trust to do it.
I don't even want to start down that road.
3. 2021 300 Rally here. If it doesn't hurt the reliability (or MPG too much) I'd love to get the 550 and a full exhaust. What exhaust system though? I have no idea. It is down to the Yosh (Jake the Garden Snake) and Graves IF, IF, IF it actually helps the power.
Thank you,
. Jeff .
@@240LTS it was a 550 ECU from them. The guy I bought it from put it on and it worked well for me. Had the Yoshi full exhaust on it and loved it. Was a little loud for my old ass but hey have to re live your youth right.......... sold the bike and bought a 390 KTM as I needed a little speed on the road. Loved the 300 but freeways sucked getting from A to B
@@scottsmith1897 ... Thank you for replying.
. Jeff .