Good repair. We have 12 ceiling fans, 2 tower fans, 2 box fans, 2 shop fans, and I just nabbed and fixed a Dyson AM01. Oh. We have 2 evaporative coolers for outside, too. I'm sure one of them will fail at some point!
That was a FANcy FAN fix by a FANatic. This was great, these are things you teach the average homeowner to do that does not have the electronics skills you have as a professional.
Here's a good tip for you when putting those types of motors back together and this is what I do any time that I take those kinda motors apart, Once it's back together and it feels that it's binding is to give the shaft as its spinning a sharp tap to reset and align the bearings...
Somewhere out there is a cesspool missing it's big fan.....NO CHIT ! By the way Dave, a while back I bought a HARLEY ceiling fan.... 5 black & chrome blades and light fixture that is a small tire / rim with 2 bulbs. It had 3 speeds & remote. When you turn it on or change the settings, it would make the sound of a HOG going through the shifting. Two of the speeds now don't respond....leaving only SLOW. If it quits, I will remove it from the ceiling mount and see if the circuit board is repairable. Shiny side up BRO.
The first time I ever stepped foot in a house in Canada (Toronto, summer 1978) I would be greeted by a couple of big 'ol metal "box fans" blowing air through the house. From what I can tell these have become less popular, with folks moving to central AC. However in my limited experience, central AC's effectiveness can vary greatly throughout a house, with some areas comfortably cool, others less so - ironically this can be helped with a fan or two ;-)
That's exactly Why I have a couple of fans kicking around even though I do have Central air it's because the fans help move the air through the house and provide better cooling and better heating.. In the winter for example I turn on my gas fireplace however that heats that room up red hot and the rest of the house is now Cold so I put a couple fans around to MOVE the warm air out of the room that's being heated and helped distribute it around the house that way the house stays warm and I Don't have to crank up the heat on the Central heat to rat heat up the rest of the house
Thank God for the pause & back step. That text was only a Few Frames AHAHAHAAHAHAH. I kept track of the Weight we took to Recycling in just the last few Years, Metal, Copper, Brass, Aluminum. I broke down Hundreds of Transformers and just the Metal was well over 2 tons HAHAH I had breaking down transformers almost to a science without using any power tools. There were a few that the Laminations were welded in certain places. An old 1/2" wood chisel and a Hammer were the tools of choice. and a 1/2' flat face punch to push out the wood wedge on most older Transformers. the Bigger they were the Easier they came apart. Thanks Dave... Long live the Breeze Machine... Mike M.
@@snakezdewiggle6084 Induction motors need a rotating magnetic field to start up and on single phase motors this is done with a phase shift. On the Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) motor there is an extra winding with a capacitor providing phase shift. On a shaded pole motor a ring of thick wire creates the phase shift.
Shaded pole is also called a squirrel cage motor. Its still an induction motor. A 3 phase motor has 3 windings and the natural rotation of the 3 phases creates a rotating magnetic field. On a single phase motor you still need a rotating field to spin the rotor. A capacitor is used to create a phase shift to power the second coil to create the rotation. A squirrel cage or shaded pole has only 1 coil. You will find a thick copper shorting bar on one end of the laminated core. The coil acts like the primary winding of a transformer and that heavy copper wire acts like a secondary that js shorted. Current is induced in this shorted winding which as the magnetic field collapse it created its own magnetic field that is delayed and in turn created the rotation that makes the rotor spin.
@@snakezdewiggle6084 I will chime in and add that a shaded pole motor is typically 15% efficient where the capacitor motor can reach up to 60% efficiency.
This is not an old fan. It's only a few years old. The cap went out when it was only about 6 months old. It actually wasn't the cap that was bad, it was the crimp where it had been connected.
Many years ago my mom bought a new fan from Kmart right out of the box it was dead box fan like you have their we liked the fan so rather then taking it back I opened it up and it was the same problem you gave hear the thermo coupler was bad I didn't have one so I jumped it but always put it on a fused and thermo protected power strip after Mom passed and the years went by I needed the power strip for other things eventually it disappeared I have run the fan for close to 30 years now no power strip and with the jump appreciate your reminder about the thermo cut off they will run a long time if you keep them well oiled and maybe just a very light touch of grease I still have a Wards dept store fan that my parents bought when they were first married it's over 50 years old and just needs a new switch but still runs and it ran in my brother's business all day long for years then it was given back to the family it's not crazy to repair that stuff if you can.
First you would never want to remove the thermal cut out on your fat and replace it with a fuse because a fuse will not blow if it overheats it will continue to supply current and the fan could catch fire. There's a reason for the thermal cut out and incidentally they are also a current fuse as well as a thermometer. If you remove it and your host went to burn down good luck collecting your insurance what's the fire inspector determined that the fan was the cause and they did a forensic Inspection only to find that the thermal cut out had been removed and bypassed. Back to the 60s my dad was a fire chief and I used to find that people would put pennies behind the fuse when it blew I don't wonder why the house burned down are there insurance company denied their claim because someone had bypassed the protection of the electrical system. If you have a thermal cut out in any device it fails it must be replaced with one of the same rating failure to do so could have catastrophic results
@@12voltvids I guess I better take a look at that , I sure remember growing up as well seeing all those penny's in the fuse boxes I always wondered how they would remove those without shutting down their power. I thought a power strip was enough protection on the fan ...... but I will do something with it.
Jeez. In the states, they are as cheap as $10 maybe $20 at most, and the city gives them to seniors for free during heat waves, but like you, I'll try to fix almost anything first.
I remember electric motors that had a glass thermal break, it has a bi-metal strip or piece that got too hot and would open the circuit when the motor cooled down it would close resetting itself and restoring the electrical connection. Sometimes it would change the cut out temperature and open below the safe operating temperature. Then they went with the thermal "one time" circuit opening and it would have to be "replaced" {isn't always easy because most times they are deep inside the coils} or bypassed all together. A fuse could be used in it's place however it should be a slow blow type fuse because of the in rush current the motor draws at start up.
In the summer here the average it 30c during the day from mid June thru Sept. Thats 86f average. I have a picture of myself on June 27 2021 holding a digital thermometer on my back yard 97.5F. So yes it gets hot here. Every year it get hotter but aparantly some believe that global warming isn't real. They also probably believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. Our winters never get that cold. Perhaps +25f in January. So yes i gets hot. That same day where it was 97.5 at my place 1 block from the beach the digital thermometer in my work truck read 117f at 64 Ave and 128 street in Surrey. I snapped a picture as I passed through a pocket of very hot air.
@@12voltvids - I asked it a little wrong. The reading I mentioned is of today. I remember you had there a giant heat wave in 2021, you filmed the town of Lytton that got erased from the face of the Earth by it.
Today it got to 68f at my house. I mentioned that I didn't need the air on today a few weeks ago ut was mid 70s outside and well over 80 in the shop. I had the ac running. Needed it in my edit suite today when I was editing. The computer and plasma got the room a little warm. The past week it has been wetter then normal. Summer here typically starts getting hot around the 2nd week of June and then it stays pretty warm throughout September. I'm on the water so it doesn't get as hot here as out in the valley. Stull glad I put in central air when I built the place in 02. Nothing nicer when it's 87 outside to cone i to 74 which is typically what I keep it at. Have central air and a second wall mounted unit in my office / edit suite. Now I have one in the work shop too which will be great once it gets hot.
I do remember "Nuts & Volts" magazine. Formerly Popular Electronics or Radio Electronics. Had to give up my subscription but the last few I read they were fighting over DTV standards.
I remember popular electronics and radio electronics as well. Never had a subscription to either but I used to find myself going up to the local 711 and standing in the magazine rack and reading them and finally after doing this for months maybe years the clerk got ticked off and told me to leave. We all used to do that I'm sure everybody used to stand at the magazine rack And flipped through the pages the problem at 711 however was we usually bought a circuit or something first and sat there and flipped through the pages and then the magazines got all sticky and the pages got stuck together. If I found one that had a good article I would generally buy it but sometimes there wasn't really anything of interest. I remember one that I did purchase was the 1 that had the circuit for a macrovision decoder this is way back in about 1981. Nuts and volts On the other hand was always a free rag so I always brought that 1 home with me.
Getting a wireless thermostat and putting the wireless sensor in one of the bedrooms might help. You should be able to balance the temperature so that both rooms have a decent temperature. The receiver just goes where the old thermostat was.
@@12voltvids That's still standard 24v contacts. Some of the Honeywell Redlink wireless thermostats support such a config. ecobee also works AFAIK. Of course using a wireless thermostat wouldn't do anything to help the temperature difference. But they often do support running the blower on a duty cycle which could help.
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@@12voltvids even better than mine
Just imagine how much money you’ve saved. I’m a fan totally when you fix your own stuff or someone else does .🤘😎🤘
Video was very helpful- enjoy learing about motors windings
Glad you liked it
Good repair. We have 12 ceiling fans, 2 tower fans, 2 box fans, 2 shop fans, and I just nabbed and fixed a Dyson AM01. Oh. We have 2 evaporative coolers for outside, too. I'm sure one of them will fail at some point!
That was a FANcy FAN fix by a FANatic.
This was great, these are things you teach the average homeowner to do that does not have the electronics skills you have as a professional.
Here's a good tip for you when putting those types of motors back together and this is what I do any time that I take those kinda motors apart, Once it's back together and it feels that it's binding is to give the shaft as its spinning a sharp tap to reset and align the bearings...
Thats pretty much what I did. Just tapped it on the bench.
Somewhere out there is a cesspool missing it's big fan.....NO CHIT ! By the way Dave, a while back I bought a HARLEY ceiling fan.... 5 black & chrome blades and light fixture that is a small tire / rim with 2 bulbs. It had 3 speeds & remote. When you turn it on or change the settings, it would make the sound of a HOG going through the shifting. Two of the speeds now don't respond....leaving only SLOW. If it quits, I will remove it from the ceiling mount and see if the circuit board is repairable. Shiny side up BRO.
It's always a nice feeling when you can repair stuff ,,insted off buying new !!
The problem with that is you always have old crap instead of new. There is a down side to that.
It's always good to recycle if you can sometimes you get lucky sometimes you don't but you don't know until you try 👍👍👍👍
I am a fan of fans. I worked on many. Mostly oscillating fans. Looking forward to watching this.
So people, we know how important it is to clean out your fans be a fan and clean your fans😎
The first time I ever stepped foot in a house in Canada (Toronto, summer 1978) I would be greeted by a couple of big 'ol metal "box fans" blowing air through the house. From what I can tell these have become less popular, with folks moving to central AC. However in my limited experience, central AC's effectiveness can vary greatly throughout a house, with some areas comfortably cool, others less so - ironically this can be helped with a fan or two ;-)
That's exactly Why I have a couple of fans kicking around even though I do have Central air it's because the fans help move the air through the house and provide better cooling and better heating.. In the winter for example I turn on my gas fireplace however that heats that room up red hot and the rest of the house is now Cold so I put a couple fans around to MOVE the warm air out of the room that's being heated and helped distribute it around the house that way the house stays warm and I Don't have to crank up the heat on the Central heat to rat heat up the rest of the house
Thank God for the pause & back step. That text was only a Few Frames AHAHAHAAHAHAH.
I kept track of the Weight we took to Recycling in just the last few Years, Metal, Copper, Brass, Aluminum.
I broke down Hundreds of Transformers and just the Metal was well over 2 tons HAHAH I had breaking down transformers almost to a science without using any power tools. There were a few that the Laminations were welded in certain places. An old 1/2" wood chisel and a Hammer were the tools of choice. and a 1/2' flat face punch to push out the wood wedge on most older Transformers. the Bigger they were the Easier they came apart.
Thanks Dave... Long live the Breeze Machine...
Mike M.
Its on its 3rd life now. First time was the cap that went open.
@@12voltvids I am still making My way through the Videos, have not seen that one yet...
I enjoy fixing fans and it's a good lourning time
Nice that it is a capacitor motor instead of shaded pole.
Capacitor motor js a little more efficient.
@@snakezdewiggle6084 Induction motors need a rotating magnetic field to start up and on single phase motors this is done with a phase shift. On the Permanent Split Capacitor (PSC) motor there is an extra winding with a capacitor providing phase shift. On a shaded pole motor a ring of thick wire creates the phase shift.
Shaded pole is also called a squirrel cage motor. Its still an induction motor. A 3 phase motor has 3 windings and the natural rotation of the 3 phases creates a rotating magnetic field. On a single phase motor you still need a rotating field to spin the rotor. A capacitor is used to create a phase shift to power the second coil to create the rotation. A squirrel cage or shaded pole has only 1 coil. You will find a thick copper shorting bar on one end of the laminated core. The coil acts like the primary winding of a transformer and that heavy copper wire acts like a secondary that js shorted. Current is induced in this shorted winding which as the magnetic field collapse it created its own magnetic field that is delayed and in turn created the rotation that makes the rotor spin.
@@snakezdewiggle6084 I will chime in and add that a shaded pole motor is typically 15% efficient where the capacitor motor can reach up to 60% efficiency.
And as the saying goes { They don't make them like that any more } Meaning where you can service it like you're doing there... That's FANtastic ...
This is not an old fan. It's only a few years old. The cap went out when it was only about 6 months old. It actually wasn't the cap that was bad, it was the crimp where it had been connected.
Many years ago my mom bought a new fan from Kmart right out of the box it was dead box fan like you have their we liked the fan so rather then taking it back I opened it up and it was the same problem you gave hear the thermo coupler was bad I didn't have one so I jumped it but always put it on a fused and thermo protected power strip after Mom passed and the years went by I needed the power strip for other things eventually it disappeared I have run the fan for close to 30 years now no power strip and with the jump appreciate your reminder about the thermo cut off they will run a long time if you keep them well oiled and maybe just a very light touch of grease I still have a Wards dept store fan that my parents bought when they were first married it's over 50 years old and just needs a new switch but still runs and it ran in my brother's business all day long for years then it was given back to the family it's not crazy to repair that stuff if you can.
First you would never want to remove the thermal cut out on your fat and replace it with a fuse because a fuse will not blow if it overheats it will continue to supply current and the fan could catch fire. There's a reason for the thermal cut out and incidentally they are also a current fuse as well as a thermometer. If you remove it and your host went to burn down good luck collecting your insurance what's the fire inspector determined that the fan was the cause and they did a forensic Inspection only to find that the thermal cut out had been removed and bypassed. Back to the 60s my dad was a fire chief and I used to find that people would put pennies behind the fuse when it blew I don't wonder why the house burned down are there insurance company denied their claim because someone had bypassed the protection of the electrical system. If you have a thermal cut out in any device it fails it must be replaced with one of the same rating failure to do so could have catastrophic results
@@12voltvids I guess I better take a look at that , I sure remember growing up as well seeing all those penny's in the fuse boxes I always wondered how they would remove those without shutting down their power. I thought a power strip was enough protection on the fan ...... but I will do something with it.
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Jeez. In the states, they are as cheap as $10 maybe $20 at most, and the city gives them to seniors for free during heat waves, but like you, I'll try to fix almost anything first.
The province gives air conditioners to seniors and low income here. Go on Amazon or to a store and these are 50 bucks.
Thermal fuses often fail just from aging having never reached their cutout temp. I've replaced way more then I care to remember.
Sure do. Stress failure. They also have s current rating as they operate as a regular fuse too so repeated power surges will over time take them out.
I remember electric motors that had a glass thermal break, it has a bi-metal strip or piece that got too hot and would open the circuit when the motor cooled down it would close resetting itself and restoring the electrical connection. Sometimes it would change the cut out temperature and open below the safe operating temperature. Then they went with the thermal "one time" circuit opening and it would have to be "replaced" {isn't always easy because most times they are deep inside the coils} or bypassed all together. A fuse could be used in it's place however it should be a slow blow type fuse because of the in rush current the motor draws at start up.
The old transformer nooooooooo😭😭
I remember that video when you did the capacitor
That was like 2016 I think. Awhile ago, same fan been running all those years.
Of course you could have cleaned the Blades before Reassembling!
Thats what the air compressor is for. Take it outside and blow the dust off outside.
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Temperatures only seem to go up to 55-60F in your area, I wouldn't call those particularly summer like, are these online readings accurate?
In the summer here the average it 30c during the day from mid June thru Sept. Thats 86f average. I have a picture of myself on June 27 2021 holding a digital thermometer on my back yard 97.5F.
So yes it gets hot here. Every year it get hotter but aparantly some believe that global warming isn't real. They also probably believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. Our winters never get that cold. Perhaps +25f in January. So yes i gets hot. That same day where it was 97.5 at my place 1 block from the beach the digital thermometer in my work truck read 117f at 64 Ave and 128 street in Surrey. I snapped a picture as I passed through a pocket of very hot air.
@@12voltvids - I asked it a little wrong. The reading I mentioned is of today. I remember you had there a giant heat wave in 2021, you filmed the town of Lytton that got erased from the face of the Earth by it.
Today it got to 68f at my house. I mentioned that I didn't need the air on today a few weeks ago ut was mid 70s outside and well over 80 in the shop. I had the ac running. Needed it in my edit suite today when I was editing. The computer and plasma got the room a little warm. The past week it has been wetter then normal. Summer here typically starts getting hot around the 2nd week of June and then it stays pretty warm throughout September. I'm on the water so it doesn't get as hot here as out in the valley. Stull glad I put in central air when I built the place in 02. Nothing nicer when it's 87 outside to cone i to 74 which is typically what I keep it at. Have central air and a second wall mounted unit in my office / edit suite. Now I have one in the work shop too which will be great once it gets hot.
I do remember "Nuts & Volts" magazine. Formerly Popular Electronics or Radio Electronics. Had to give up my subscription but the last few I read they were fighting over DTV standards.
I remember popular electronics and radio electronics as well. Never had a subscription to either but I used to find myself going up to the local 711 and standing in the magazine rack and reading them and finally after doing this for months maybe years the clerk got ticked off and told me to leave. We all used to do that I'm sure everybody used to stand at the magazine rack And flipped through the pages the problem at 711 however was we usually bought a circuit or something first and sat there and flipped through the pages and then the magazines got all sticky and the pages got stuck together. If I found one that had a good article I would generally buy it but sometimes there wasn't really anything of interest. I remember one that I did purchase was the 1 that had the circuit for a macrovision decoder this is way back in about 1981. Nuts and volts On the other hand was always a free rag so I always brought that 1 home with me.
Getting a wireless thermostat and putting the wireless sensor in one of the bedrooms might help. You should be able to balance the temperature so that both rooms have a decent temperature. The receiver just goes where the old thermostat was.
Except this is a fancy heat pump stat with 8 wires.
@@12voltvids That's still standard 24v contacts. Some of the Honeywell Redlink wireless thermostats support such a config. ecobee also works AFAIK.
Of course using a wireless thermostat wouldn't do anything to help the temperature difference. But they often do support running the blower on a duty cycle which could help.
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Don't get me started on therosats put in the wrong fkn place!!!! Dead hallway no airflow.. sorry but fans like that are $5 here.
50 bucks on Amazon for this exact fan right now. Canada tire has a smaller one for 40