Johan and friend are written as realistic manipulators. The only unbelievable thing about the characters is the opportunity awarded to them.. The reason they are realistic manipulators is because their character archetype of trickster and malevolent shadow enablers is based on real world psychoanalytic works.. the author understands human nature due to having read the foundational works of freud, Nietzsche and Carl Jung. You could see yourself being swayed by them because they are "human, all too human" I myself have used the tactics i have seen both employ. To use sowing seeds of doubt that eventually blossom into conflict, to create paranoia and distrust.. to lie with the truth.. (though this was for a specific goal of getting revenge on someone..) and it works.. thats why they are compelling characters.
@@Brawl_Moments45 Doofus Jerry is an ordinary villain with delusions of power and plot armor who died from a damn worm. He will not be able to oppose Johon and Friend. Evil Morty may be a great villain, but in the real world of Friend.
He has the freedom of writing seinen. Doesn’t have to put overused tropes like most shonen do to catch the children’s attention. But yeah even so he is an exceptionally good writer. 20th Century boys for example was inspired by real world things that happened in Japan (cult, modernisation etc.). And Monster has the same vibe as German detective shows (which I absolutely fuckin love 😂 I even live in Frankfurt, the city during the last few episodes). He’s really good at taking history and integrating problems of the places he chooses to use. I need to read more of his stuff.
fax. ayankoji is jsut a highshool kid who manipulates other kids. johan killed someone in front of the main character and never got caught. if johan was in cote ayanokji and the whole school are goign to be manipulated by johan
I have to say Kiyotaka is fairly-rated for his intellect and writing. And for Johan he's slightly underrated, although both get negged by Kiruma Souichi 🗣️🔥🔥💯
i like both Ayano and Johan Ayano would shit on Johan in hand to hand if they had a fight to the death if not Johan would simply configure Ayano's death easily.
@@an_ordinary_person11 akiyama takes most iq categories, even as low as mid diff for FRI related indexes. however, his manipulation feats simply aren’t up to par. i havent finished usogui, but baku is probably facts.
Kenjaku underrated manipulator from recent chapters. Literally been behind the scenes for thousands of years, playing world governments easily, threw Japan into chaos easily
Johan understands the reality of the world thus he made himself the true monster of manipulation his indecisive accuracy of manipulatve words can't be predictable by a genius. I will call his manipulation level "Godly Unpredictable Monster Manipulator"
@@BigBrain928 bro manipulated entire world Universe Made Fantasia Made a himself the god Tho i can understand we can't compare fictional character to realistic characters like Johan
@@NikoK2606he didint he wanted to follow his dream and he would do anything to reach his dream also he did manipulate foss just by looking in his eyes he realized that he is an easy target to manipulate
Yuichi isn't a bad manipulator. He doesn't desrve to be at the same rank as Ayano and Makima. He may not be as high as friend and johan but he's pretty close.
@@chrisdesfarges3257actually Kinderhiem torguo Is a place in germany where children were bought and tortured So there is a possibility that johan is between us
Well to be fair they wouldn't have made it that far in the series if it weren't for their ability. Their abilities are a big factor on their manipulating methods.
@@STEALTHGAMINGBGM shonen was like fantasy kid like imaginary stuff like one piece or mainstream anime, seinen was genre realistic and of course ITS genre adult because Its real
@@xbwu9732 Not really its just because he became some sort of weird demon god so it increased his natural charisma but nothing to compete with johan and friend
@@prime.14 Johan is not a normal human.he was born as the result of a eugenics experiment orchestrated by franz bonaparta .johan is not consider as a normal human.as normal human Ayanokoji,kira,L, yuuichi katagiri are smartest.
Griffith is not really in the same ball park as Johan or Friend, not to mention he's like Light, uses others power to get to his goal while Johan has only his intellect and still solos. Not sure about Friend but if they are by the same creator he must be insane as people say.
@@DarkKouji bit*h go nd watch some animes your so called ayanotard fighting over class for some points Meanwhile lelouch fighting over a nation and you are talking about light yagami lol atlast he failed and died bcz of trusting mikami and lelouch completed his wish by sacrificing himself
@@AdnanShaikh-yb3gs huh? By the way you saying class i know you don't know anything about him Atleast i watched Code geass and you didn't read LN so my opinion is more valiad than yours It's no by feats Sure lelouch got the best feat ever but that doesn't mean he has the most mental He was getting much help He won't be doing shit alone Ayanokoji and Light outsmarts him
@@DarkKouji Lelouch needs his Geass because he wanted to overthrow the biggest empire xd, I don't know how ayanokoji performs but I don't think he has a bigger goal than that
Manipulator ❌
Monster✅
Estoy de acuerdo con usted, mi estimado 🗿
@@thiagom9285joker 💀
Who tf are you?
😂❤
The crazy thing is both of them were created by the same person
No way, for real??
@@kirayoshikage595 ya 20th century boy and monster were created by Naoki Urasawa
@@AnAverageCommonMan Gahdamn, never knew that! Thanks gigachad
@@kirayoshikage595 why do i feel like you're being sarcastic
@@NotaPlagueDoctor300 why the fuck do you ask me?
how can one creator make two of the greatest villains in history
Both are THE GREATEST in animanga.
Anime names I'm interested
@@getsuga3946 Johan ( Monster)
Friend (20th century boys)
But 20th century boys doesn't have a anime adaptation
@@shaiii-chan bruh johan might be one of the greatest in all of fiction after the joker and Darth vader
Creator of breaking bad: "are you serious right now bro"
Sometimes it makes me wonder how a human can create such masterpieces. Naoki Urasawa is simply a genius.
Someone with either explicit or implicit understanding of the subconscious and conscious mind through psychoanalytoc works of Carl jung.
he is best manipulator because he's the writer
it's not that they are bad manipulators... It's just that johan and friend is on a whole different level
Anime?
@@Indianguy_ johan is from monster and friend's manga doesn't have an anime adaptation yet but the name is 20th century boys
@@Azrael_Kajiri bro you are good person wannna play chess?
More like the others aren’t bad it’s just the fact that Johan and the friend exist in general lol
Johan and friend are written as realistic manipulators. The only unbelievable thing about the characters is the opportunity awarded to them..
The reason they are realistic manipulators is because their character archetype of trickster and malevolent shadow enablers is based on real world psychoanalytic works.. the author understands human nature due to having read the foundational works of freud, Nietzsche and Carl Jung.
You could see yourself being swayed by them because they are "human, all too human"
I myself have used the tactics i have seen both employ. To use sowing seeds of doubt that eventually blossom into conflict, to create paranoia and distrust.. to lie with the truth.. (though this was for a specific goal of getting revenge on someone..) and it works.. thats why they are compelling characters.
Friend literally manipulated the whole damn world...
Evil Morty and Doofus Jerry > Friend
@@Brawl_Moments45 yes I agree
@@Brawl_Moments45 But Friend is better written tho
@@Brawl_Moments45 Doofus Jerry is an ordinary villain with delusions of power and plot armor who died from a damn worm. He will not be able to oppose Johon and Friend. Evil Morty may be a great villain, but in the real world of Friend.
Which one is the fourth one pls tell me🙏
Johan is the type of manipulator Who can Make Death note user Make him write his own name in The Death note.
Yup
But You can't die if you write your own name in the death note, right??
@@eh8778If you saw the anime, whoever human’s name here is written, shall die.
That includes writing its own name.
@@Intuitoh i read the manga, it said that you can't die if you write your own name. But it's been a long time...
@@eh8778 ah ah ah i caught you lying in 4k😆
Normal Manipulators:🙂
Manipulators with a different font:😎
johan is the best manipulator i have ever seen then goes like kira
@Hypnofullcombo yeah friend tio
Which one is the fourth one pls tell me🙏
@@srijankumar5114 I think
1.Johan
2.Friend
3.Kira
4.Aizen
5.Lelouch
It is my opinion don't take it seriously
@@LAWLIETEDITZ_ZS its not that....its just that he IS DOWN BAD 💀💀
Johan Libert 🗿🐐🔥
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Everyone : Server overload
Actually it sounds like wet fart 😳 to me.
@@WHYSOSERIOUS9718 ?
Omoshire orega zangtsu da gstsuga tensho
_baku enters the chat_ :
Everyone: Served crashed
@@WHYSOSERIOUS9718wth ?
"Makima is the best one here!"
- denji 🤓
Hello
"Makima is the best one here!"
-Tokyo🤓
@@smartxavier8906 I'm you but dumber
Mangareaders:ah shit
@@sulaimanaqeel9272 barbeque steak, ramen, And Fried rice Made out of Makima Cake and Clacker balls
this author draws truly masterpiece manga: Pluto, monster, boys of the 21st century, why are all his works so good?
He has the freedom of writing seinen. Doesn’t have to put overused tropes like most shonen do to catch the children’s attention. But yeah even so he is an exceptionally good writer. 20th Century boys for example was inspired by real world things that happened in Japan (cult, modernisation etc.). And Monster has the same vibe as German detective shows (which I absolutely fuckin love 😂 I even live in Frankfurt, the city during the last few episodes). He’s really good at taking history and integrating problems of the places he chooses to use. I need to read more of his stuff.
And i genuinely love his artstyle. IMO top tier mangaka and author
Kids now a day : Dude Ayanakoji is the best manipulator he is so cool.
Legends who know Johan libert exists : 😏😏
fax. ayankoji is jsut a highshool kid who manipulates other kids. johan killed someone in front of the main character and never got caught. if johan was in cote ayanokji and the whole school are goign to be manipulated by johan
I have to say Kiyotaka is fairly-rated for his intellect and writing.
And for Johan he's slightly underrated, although both get negged by Kiruma Souichi 🗣️🔥🔥💯
Baku = souichi
💯 percent souichi >Baku
Preparation time Baku > souichi
Baku with original heart> 💯 percent soichi
i like both Ayano and Johan Ayano would shit on Johan in hand to hand if they had a fight to the death if not Johan would simply configure Ayano's death easily.
Bro telling ayano is kid he is manipulating kids bro 😂 if Johan would be at his age he what about then he will not be knowing about manipulation
2 GOATS
lemme add one another "Moriarty"
what does "goat" mean in Russian?
@@chezahuinya3275 занимающие высшее место/лучшие
The real goat's naorki urasawa
@@chezahuinya3275 the "Greatest Of All Time"
Johan and friend is the greatest manipulator in manga and anime
Griffith >
@@an_ordinary_person11 akiyama takes most iq categories, even as low as mid diff for FRI related indexes. however, his manipulation feats simply aren’t up to par.
i havent finished usogui, but baku is probably facts.
@@RainlineX griffith isnt a manipulator he just chases his dreams and got manipulated by one of the godhand to accept the offer
@@NikoK2606 griffith manipulated the WORLD, people, the apostle, even the skull knight had dreams that a white "good" hawk, the messiah, would come
Kenjaku underrated manipulator from recent chapters. Literally been behind the scenes for thousands of years, playing world governments easily, threw Japan into chaos easily
These shit-tokers literally have no idea what they're talking about
To bad he's been getting packed up by 6 eyes thru the centuries
@@Dokgo22 yeah but tbf in JJK six eyes is essentially divine power, anyone in the verse gets packed by it except 20 finger sukuna
Literally taking a page from my boy aizen
Johan>friend(idk name)> aizen> lelouch>other manipulators
For me is Friend>=Johan>aizen>Yuuichi>ai>Lelouch>ayanokoji>=light>makima>eren>kisaki
Lelouch is fodder without geass in manupilation don't overrate him
@@zenxpq Ayano aint a manipulator
Johan>>>>>Friend
Friend>>> johan
Aizen : I planned everything but.. That man already know everything and chooses the best choices.
Naoki Urasawa went god mode when he is writing these mangas😈
Aizen should be on this list too he literally wrote a person's whole life
And… lost
@@Grusken19because of plot armor kiske's kido
@@Grusken19 aizen sama
No lol
@@Grusken19 Because it was part of the plan. He is the author of everything.💀
Bro did the coldest edit and thought we wouldn’t notice 🥶
The writer can take over the world whenever he wants to.
That's right, i'm friend, your true friend
~Friend~
Its not crazy that both of them were created by the same creator. What's crazy is just w.t.f was going on in his head when he wrote the two of them💀
Who is the other one?
@@clarence6956 guy with the eye is friend, guy with blonde hair is johan liebert (you didn't specify who the one you knew was so im listing both)
Maybe the creator was a real psycho
Billy bat is another amazing manipulator. I would even argue he is better than friend and johan
Naokai Urasawa is a genius
Aizen sama🗿
They're on God level.
Johan is meaningles. See in his eyes, he has no soul to be found, no abyss to fall into. He is the peak of chaos hidden in a facade of false solitude
only johan:no
only friend:no
johan+friend:yes
Johan understands the reality of the world thus he made himself the true monster of manipulation his indecisive accuracy of manipulatve words can't be predictable by a genius. I will call his manipulation level "Godly Unpredictable Monster Manipulator"
"Nameless and faceless"
☠️☠️☠️
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Too low for this list he's not a manipulator in any case though a lot interpret it in that way
@@BigBrain928 bro manipulated entire world
Universe
Made Fantasia
Made a himself the god
Tho i can understand we can't compare fictional character to realistic characters like Johan
@@BigBrain928 he putted aizen so low and geass
griffith isnt a manipulator bro. He just chases his dream also he was manipulated by one godhand to accept the offer
@@NikoK2606he didint he wanted to follow his dream and he would do anything to reach his dream also he did manipulate foss just by looking in his eyes he realized that he is an easy target to manipulate
Billy bat,Monster,20th century boys bruhhh the goat
pluto , yawara
Berserk
Absolute GOATS
Hannibal be like:🍷
The Nameless Monster 💀
The Faceless Monster 💀
Johan and Aizen 🗿🍷
Bro even kenjaku is better manipulator than aizen. Baku madarame>>johan>=friend>>> other manipulator
Number 42 🗿
Gila sih orang yg bikin tu anime
Music: Playa swaggin in the
partment (Slowed-Reverb)
Thank god for your existence
Man goat
GOAT
Johan and friend became very underrated
Aizen/Johan/Friend ❤️
No only Johan Friend
@@johnjustin2086 This is just your opinion
@@fengyunx you opinion lmao
Aizen is below
@@johanliebert3609 aaaand?
@@fengyunx just saying you aizen is not johan Or friend level
Your insulting both of them comparing to aizen 😏
FINALLY SOME FRIEND APPRECIATION
「You're a big liar, aren't you?」
now imagine junko and johan teaming up 💀
Yuichi isn't a bad manipulator. He doesn't desrve to be at the same rank as Ayano and Makima. He may not be as high as friend and johan but he's pretty close.
Kisaki should be in more than others because he was fighting a time traveller
Bro manipulated the whole of German
The fact that Johan Liebert is just a normal human without supernatural abilities terrifies me....
Friend to
@@chrisdesfarges3257actually
Kinderhiem torguo
Is a place in germany where children were bought and tortured
So there is a possibility that johan is between us
Bro doesn't need power to control everyone
FY >
Limitless >
Red Lotus >
Large etc of LN Characters...
Nice edit
Aizen is insane. Half of manga was his big plan
You writing this comment and me replying was a part of his plan.
@@euro_488 me replying to you is part of aizen sama plan
@@mihawks_pupil but me replying to you is a part of my great plan
Johan: All the manga was part of my plan
Johan can manipulate the viewer in believing that he is the greatest villain💀
That's why he is the greatest villian
Friend is more powerful in terms of manipulation here because he literally manipulated the whole goddamn world.
Its the fact that johan and friend don't use powers they have ruled over countries with simply using their essence alone
Song name?
No really, what's it called?
He ignored aizen and lelouch just because of their ability ✌️
oh alr then
Well to be fair they wouldn't have made it that far in the series if it weren't for their ability. Their abilities are a big factor on their manipulating methods.
abilities kinda make them less impressive. If I had aizens immortality and all I could rule the world easy, even when soul society exists
"Monster"
What’s a manipulator without any emotions
~johan libret
Shonen Manipulator : *overrated*
Seinen Manipulator : 🥵😈
Can you explain the difference between them ( sorry i am not that experience in anime )
@@STEALTHGAMINGBGM shonen was like fantasy kid like imaginary stuff like one piece or mainstream anime, seinen was genre realistic and of course ITS genre adult because Its real
J
monster fans are prob the most toxic fanbase I've ever seen
this whole comment section makes me feel Johan is overrated af lmao💀
And I Today finish monster anime 🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐
Bro This Word "Freind"
Always Used To manipulate this whole world
Naoki Kurasawa himself was a manipulator that's why he created them both
When I saw Aizen in mid I was like: WAIT, WHA... Oh, Johan and Friend in best, then I'm fine
Айзена занизили жестко, автор позер :/
Griffith too
Griffith is not a manipulator
@@has642 bruh
@@MysticalSkyisHere he manipulated a fkin demons or a kingdom i think
@@xbwu9732 Not really its just because he became some sort of weird demon god so it increased his natural charisma but nothing to compete with johan and friend
Bro these 2 were just built different , no hax and just play's with the world
"Let's play kenji👁️👆"
Naruto clutching with talk no jutsu
real
Naruto boutta destroy the entire leaf village after one conversation with Johan 💀😂
music name?
ruclips.net/video/cjTMYL3R2vw/видео.html
Naoki have god tier writing fr
One of the finest edit ever ❤️
Lelouch.... 1 man vs an entire emipre
Johan vs NATO (novel)
Friend vs the whole world
Second Friend vs THE AUTHOR
@@abdulkarimadi Lelouch took over the whole world and then created it anew 🤫
lelouch is underrated asf
its one of the best characters
(Crazy scientist (Rintaro) and Lelouch is my favourite characters🤧🤧)
@@Ben-.- With the help of Geass.
@@Ben-.- yes with geass without that nothing while Johan and friend without superpowers are on god tier manipulator
Monster deserves a modern Reboot by Studio Orange
Friend & Lelouch manipulating the world is just insane
And johan and friend are just kids infront of Rick, Evilmorty, fang yuan 😶
Aizen also bro
Bruh
No
@@Azrael_Kajiri yes
@@savanacheetah2562 Nah
@@Nandomo00 yeah
johan , friend , aizen > emotions
Yuuichi the goat imo (enjoyability wise)
Fun fact: The side characters were better at manipulating then some other animes.
He really put eren after yuichi💀☠️
U are allowed to get mad
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True. Johan is unique, actually.
Tanya from youjo senki: sometimes i can but sometimes i don't need to ☕
Johan > friend > aizen > yuuichi > light >/= eren > lelouch > others
Nah i beleive friend has more feats even though Johan is my fav charter
Absolutely fax.
Friend > johan > Light > Lelouch> aizen > others
W opinion
@@IQbatelle0832Lelouch > Light
Song?
what's the song anyone still found it yet?
@@baddyy1977 song - swaggin in the partment
Thank god he added friend too
And the fact that they were all written by naoki
give respect to Aizen.man this video was part of Aizen plans
He's not even a human while johan and friend are normal humans who uses pure manipulation alone
@@prime.14 Johan is not a normal human.he was born as the result of a eugenics experiment orchestrated by franz bonaparta .johan is not consider as a normal human.as normal human Ayanokoji,kira,L, yuuichi katagiri are smartest.
No💀
Griffith: left the chat💀
We don't talk about him....
Griffith is not really in the same ball park as Johan or Friend, not to mention he's like Light, uses others power to get to his goal while Johan has only his intellect and still solos. Not sure about Friend but if they are by the same creator he must be insane as people say.
Griffith and Valentina : hold my drinks🍷
Griffith ain’t even Manipulator, he’s just the best antagonist written
@@user-jx2rr3fe1o true
urasaw really knows how to make manipulators
friend, johan 🛐🛐
Can you make anos Vs Rimuru
Anos wins
Audio name?
swaggin in the apartment but extreme bass boosted and slowed
Johan liebert no competition ❤❤
Aizen smokes Johan and Friend 🍷🗿
Fanboy force 👶🏿
@@borquise fr literally
What a tard
Shonetard
who name person after johan?
Naruto talk no jutsu 😥
That’s plot armor manipulator
"Manipulator"❎
"Monster"✅
Can you make Ayanakoji vs Lelouch
Ayanokoji high diffs
Even light can beat lelouch
@@DarkKouji bit*h go nd watch some animes your so called ayanotard fighting over class for some points Meanwhile lelouch fighting over a nation and you are talking about light yagami lol atlast he failed and died bcz of trusting mikami and lelouch completed his wish by sacrificing himself
@@AdnanShaikh-yb3gs huh?
By the way you saying class i know you don't know anything about him
Atleast i watched Code geass and you didn't read LN so my opinion is more valiad than yours
It's no by feats
Sure lelouch got the best feat ever but that doesn't mean he has the most mental
He was getting much help
He won't be doing shit alone
Ayanokoji and Light outsmarts him
Ayanokoji solo
@@DarkKouji Lelouch needs his Geass because he wanted to overthrow the biggest empire xd, I don't know how ayanokoji performs but I don't think he has a bigger goal than that