🤬🤬 MASSIVE ARGUMENT!! WHY ARE YOU ACCEPTING FAILURE!? WHY WOULD WE SACK ARTETA NOW!?
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Egal come across with a fair argument 👍🏼big up to him for not getting bullied
He got absolutely roasted. Reduced to ''I dunno anything about why he did that'' and stammering over one of 2ndTeta's biggest signings (and Our waste of money - Havertz.) Get a clue?
@@netweed09 unfortunately, trying to get fans like egal to answer for Artetas crimes against this football club is like pulling teeth….these people live in a euphoric state of delusion they’re the reason why we’ve become such a banter club…smh
@@netweed09 Funny how yet fans like you don't credit Arteta for getting Delcan Rice in the club one of the best player in the league.
@@marshalkagami 💯% m8. 👍👍 I wish the other 98 or 99%(+)? of Our so-called 'fans' had a fraction of an ounce of your wisdom (and Fact delivery.)
My mistake actually. They're Arteta FC fans but still, your point stands. 😅😄
I rarely agree with Egal, but he made some valid points. I think we should wait until the end of the season to see who’s opinions are right, because there’s a long way to go yet. I’m not getting carried away after a 6-0 demolition of West Ham, because I could still say that we should have scored more as we missed a hatful of chances.
M8, We're not winning the League , 2ndTeta is simply not good enough. We got pipped by a managerless Spuds to 4th barely in 2022: 2ndTeta needed Joshes zillions just to get Us back into 2nd lol.
Egal won this one. He’s right. Fair play to him
Problem with 'High Standards FC' is they come up with shit solutions. Northside literally said he would sack Arteta for Conte. How can you sell yourself as having high standards with ideas like that?
What I don’t get is why everyone thinks they are right just enjoy it ffs there is more to worry about in life ..
North side Suzy ’, sound like my baby mum, always wining shhhhhh !!! And uncle jezza, the type off bloke that won’t throw ball back over the fence 😂
No, he does have all Our League trophies under his belt though.
You've seen ,, Odegaard holding a camera. Doing a Baywatch pose with some loony toon thinks he's won it all T-posing like some glitched NPC. Maybe will celebrate his next goal wearing a Firefighters costume. Well d0ne. 😂
hahahahahaha
We literally got a Claude replacement in this old geezer. "It's time to goooo" 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Northside reminds me of a spoilt 8 year old girl
Boy
@@Rosko_de_Soul girl
I just forward his rants. Deluded
That's unfair to girls
Crying
Just goes to show some people aren’t fans of Arsenal, but just fans of their own opinion. It doesn’t matter to them that Arsenal are enjoying their most consistent form in the PL since the Invincibles (we’ve not been involved in back to back title races since then), what matters most to them is that Arteta proved them wrong as a coach and that makes them miserable. They can be proved wrong for 90% of the season and then when it goes wrong for Arsenal they come out the woodwork eager to dunk on the team. I’d rather they just stop supporting the club. Muppets.
But are you any different, surely you are a supporter of your own opinions too?……Opinions are not facts, so no one on this topic are right or wrong. Trouble is, people can’t respect other people’s opinions. Jez has been a supporter of Arsenal before you or me was born, it’s incredibly disrespectful to claim that he isn’t a supporter on the basis that you don’t like his opinions. I don’t always agree with Jez or Egal, but I won’t claim they’re not genuine Arsenal supporters.
@@nickxcore74 when Arsenal make huge improvements 3 seasons in a row (20/21 to 22/23) going from back to back 8th placed finishes to leading the league for 90% of the season with the youngest team and manager in the league , to then challenging again the very next season, then if you’re of the opinion that he should be sacked if he doesn’t win 2 of the hardest trophies to win in world football, you’ve ignored a whole bunch of logic and rational to reach that conclusion. People can have opinions, fine, but when your opinion is extremely negative during one of the best periods in a clubs recent history then something has gone wrong in your thought process whether that be not evolving to the current times or supporting your opinion like a football team. The Arsenal fanbase have been in civil war since the Wenger days, which made sense, but for it to still be ongoing is ridiculous. Feels like they’re waiting for it to go wrong so they can be validated.
@@nickxcore74 also Jez condescendingly says things to Egal like “well seeing as you love your facts and stats so much..”, for me those are clear examples of him rubbishing good counter points made by Egal that are based in fact. Why should I respect someone’s opinion when they so clearly show a disregard for simple facts?
Hey brain!ac - that ''when it goes wrong for Arsenal'' is the most _important_ part - tripping up at the final hurdle.
Forget Arsenal - why do you even follow this Sport?? To have a fun happy ride? Cry more, you'll never come near to being an Arsenal fan next to proper veterans like Jez. You're just a small, angry child who's angry an Arsenal fan told your 2nd placed father figure 2ndTeta off. Crawl away down the Lane.
Northside has no sense, the players he is mentioning on cussing on Arsenal signing, Arsenal was not in a position to get top level players, Arteta has now got them in a position to get top level players and with that, I will question Havertz, but you cannot now say, he must be sacked because he does not win the title, take your baby emotional self and join Madrid as a fan as your a glory hunter, not a fan, you prob became an Arsenal fan when we won the title...like these spoilt Chelsea fans who don't know Chelsea before Abramovich
The problem is fans like u think Arteta is the only person who can take Arsenal forward. Over 700 mill spent and not a single major won. Those are the facts. If we don't win something in the next two years, players like Saliba, Saka and Martinelli are gonna bounce and we're back in the mess.
@@GhengisGoon 💯 Thank you. One of like, 3 actual Arsenal fans in this chat, well said brother. 👍👏
These fake fleece fans are clueless.
@@GhengisGoon and which manager guarantees you a PL league title?
Mind you, mourinho spent money as well with man utd and he’s said taking them 2nd behind city is his best career achievement and that he is someone who has won multiple titles and trophies. Nothing is ever guaranteed
The problem with fans like you, is you think bringing in another manager guarantees success, we've been here before when all these RUclipsrs told us, sack Wenger and we win the league, been there, done that, nothing changed until Arteta came in a raised the standards, the culture and the ability to win, carry on processing the way we are and the big trophies will come, that's just logical common sense, not based off a whime or hope that sacking Arteta fixes everything
So I guess when Arteta leaves. Ur gonna all stop supporting the club because no other manager can do what he's done. 🤡🤡 No one's gonna care in ten years, time if he changed the culture. The facts at the moment 700 mill spent and not a single major won.
North side getting schooled. He needs to do MUCH less.
How's he getting schooled. Egal talks like arteta is a great manager his words were he will win everything if he went to Barcelona or psg. So why can't he do it at arsenal.
Because Pep and Citeh exist
@@KefeAmanYet Klopp managed to win the Premier League with Pep at City, and he also managed to win the Champions League. Pep is a great manager, but he’s not invincible. Klopp has shown that you can beat City, but you cannot afford to drop many points and have to be pretty much flawless to do it. Not a dig at Arteta by the way, but there’s absolutely no excuses why he can’t beat Pep to the title. It won’t be easy, but it can be done.
@@ExpectedTrophies People like you say the weirdest things. You'll say he's no Pep but at the same time say there's no excuses for him not winning the league or Champions League. Make sense.
@@nickxcore74 So Klopp who everyone says is the second best manager only wins one Premier League, and yet Arteta who you don't rate as highly has to win a Premier League? Makes no sense unless you think Arteta is as good as Klopp, and you don't think that.
How is this jezz bloke getting on these podcasts 🤣🤣🤣🤯🤯🤯
Egal is right , these other guys are negative, don’t believe in their own club.
Proof once again that trying to reason and debate with an unreasonable person or persons is but an exercise in futility thus always doomed to abject failure.
In relation to the rather infantile, one dimensional logic of Northside in regards to the purchases Arteta has made that failed to become stellar or as yet have not embarked on the upward trajectory expected, is Harry Maguire still the most expensive defender in the world?
Couldn't everyone and their dog see that Chelsea recruiting Fernando Torres, Andreyiv Shevchenko along with the Spanish goalkeeper (record fee) and French central defender who's names escape me right now, were bad business that should never have happened?
Haven't Ferguson, Wenger, del Bosque, Guardiola, Conte, Ancelotti, Mourinho, Klopp, Allegri, Tuchel, Mancini, Zidane, Simeone all got a handful of players that flopped for them and they might even regret having purchased?
Exactly. Northside always seem to highlight the 'faliures' of Arteta but never seem to talk about successful transfers like Rice Trossard, White etc.
How negative this lots are? They must have terrible life. Got and support Manchester City. Egal well done being reasonable .
This is what gives this great team a bad name
@@bronniesboy 2nd ''great''??
You Ok?? 🤡
factsssssssssssssss
jesus christ... these lot are miserable... always negative...
fuck these guys.
Was it 43 pts from 45 that city achieved last season……that’s incredible
Imagine getting cooked by Egal because you’ve married yourself to infantile, contrarian opinions of 6-year olds.
''Opinions'??
So why haven't We (well, not you - you're a Spuds fan) won the league for the past 4 _and_ 16 before that years - brain!ac?? Love the voices in your head much?? Going give me those fake, jubbly excuses on a platter now? 🤡
@netweed09 does your tiny brain believe we could have won the title first two seasons after the mess wenger, emery and Raul left us? It's almost like we had to assemble a team
@@tuff_trooper755 And what did Ranieri ''inherit''?? What grade of excuse will you serve up for that Fact, medium rare? Well-done, eh chef??
Just get out of Our club you clueless b u m. The Lane is your Lane.
@@tuff_trooper755 The funny thing is: We still have more than enough pull to trigger you apparantly 'happy, cheery Arsenal fans' to constantly reply. Very poorly and cluelessly , filled with same old broken record deals like "yOung teaM" , "VAR" waffle etc etc - but you give Us Proper Arsenal fans your time in comments nonetheless: theres always anywhere like from 50 to 1000 of you lurkers (too scared to come on Camera off course) getting high with your little "raTio victories". 😂 Isn't that so strange? Don't you have a club to support already?
Boom! Roasted 😂 Well said Lexis 👍
Egal made some good points, he's not that toxic positive type like some say. Man's got hope is all, so do I. We were so bad before Arteta, we are at least competing again.
I am actually with Egal here. It seems Arteta has told the team to let loose now like last season. None of that control from the first part of the season. Let's just keep winning till when City and Liverpool face each other.
North side is tryna be a troopz from wish, thinks negativity gonna make him famous, thing is he’s bein negative at the WRONG TIME!!!
Troopz from wish 😂😂
It’s also wild how a football team can become a grown man’s life.
Wow Dan you need to level up this panel because that was poor.
easily Egals best performance on youtube I usually find him cringe cause he usually doesn't make sense but held his own
Men thinks Arsenal is Real madrid of England.. There are 19 managers who can't win the league sack em all? For the past 4 seasons actually 😂
Northside can't argue with the stat that we've scored more than we did last season. He's trying his best by moving the goalposts. It didn't work lol. He actually makes some good points. His problem is he has too many agendas that all lead to "Arteta Out" and they cloud his judgement. He also needs to fix up how disrespectful he is to anyone that doesn't share his opinions. Too rude.
Id rather trade those goals for 5 points we got less. Just sayin.
@@coachmhee2590 That wasn't his argument. His argument was that we have scored fewer goals. So the fewer points is a defensive issue, not a goalscoring one, apart from the first game against West Ham.
@@franklingoodwin so if we don't win the league again then we do need a striker
Him and Lee make way too many comments that are unbalanced where they can’t say much good about this team to the point where they make themselves look silly cause they make statements that contradict each other. Lee will credit Emery for signing Saliba for example but criticise Arteta for giving certain players new contracts, So Saliba isn’t an Arteta player now then being given a new contract by Arteta? Don’t think Emery was much involved with the recruitment then as well at the time cause he wanted Zaha.
@@ajbyatt1419 We need a striker anyway regardless of whether we win the league. Jesus isn't a top striker and is always injured and Eddie is Eddie (I don't need to get into that one). But again, Northside was saying we need a striker because we scored fewer goals than last season, rather than just saying we need a striker to outscore Man City and Liverpool.
Northside is making my ears bleed. Brain dead
Crazy how they’re all laughing at Egal on this panel, Dan included and he turns out to be the most sensible guy. Then he goes on Lee’s channel and handles himself well too. Great week for Egal, honestly.
Lee gunner let his dad out 😂😂
Jez thinking he’s making an amazing point about Arsenal winning the league by saying City are unstoppable and win every game. Fine - then surely by his own argument it shows just how hard it is to win the league whilst simultaneously complaining Arsenal haven’t won the league. Brain rot, seriously
Shows he has an agenda. If he thinks Man City are the overwhelming favourites then why should Arteta be fired if he finishes second? Dan needs to ask the question of Jez and Northside of where do they think we are compared to Man City and Liverpool. If they think both Liverpool and Man City are better than Arsenal, then finishing above 3rd is overachieving, and finishing 3rd would be achieving the level they think we're at. Now using that logic, the Arteta out talk should only be entertained if we finish 4th or lower.
But why should they be better, arsenal have spent as much in recent seasons, maybe they have better managers!?
@@teotibbs3627 since Artea been in a Job Only PSG Chelsea and Manchester United have Spent more than us
@@franklingoodwin As Four Artea 1 Trophy from a possible 16 and yes we definitely was in the race last season abd are definitely in this season he bin the league Cup and fa Cup two do it so i think if he doesn't win the prem or Chapion league that 1 from a possible 18 that proves he are Brendon Rogers and we say thank you four the fa Cup and go and find are Klopp
@@franklingoodwin u say Artea out should only be a Talk if we finsh 4th or lower what if we loss two Porto because four me if that happens Serious questions have 2 be asked at that point
Dan Potts - look at your comments man. No one is agreeing with North side and Jez. It is DELUDED how negative they are mate.
Northside is the DEFINITION of brain dead. If he loses the league on GOAL difference to arguably the greatest manager in football history and loses a Champions League final to 14 time winners Real Madrid. He should be sacked full stop?😂😂😂
These aren't "standards" that's just being delusional.😂
Edit: Jez is worse than Northside.😂😂😂. Old man is LOST.😂😂😂
You want to flex zero trophies like we re sprus disgrace. This is the season Arteta deliveries end off
1 Trophy from a possible 16
@@237active6 who's flexing 1 trophy? It's like you lot can't even read💀. Barring City and Liverpool who's won more than one trophy since Arteta has been here?
@@ajbyatt1419 Go on, name the clubs with better records?
@@ajbyatt1419 Still love the Arsenal. There's more to life
drop the agendas already, it's pathetic and embarrassing to be associated with grown(?) men behaving this way.
What annoys me with the negativity is they never apply context, they are still in the invincible mindset, not analysing realistically, football swings, no 1 team deserves to win 1 title between 20 teams, Arteta has taken Arsenal from being the joke banter club to now being taken seriously as a top club again, how can anyone want Arteta out, only those who live in a fantasy land will create the notion Arsenal should be winning...no Arsenal should be challenging, and what has Arteta got Arsenal doing...challenging...be logical not emotional, we are men...well suppose to be
? And you're doing the good Newport City fan mind mode of totally scrapping the elephant in the room that are League title finishes.
No one cares about you crying @ ''negativity'' - you ''enjoy the ride'' fans will never see the light. Because with your loser 'ethos': We're not winning Jack League titles.
1 Trophy from a possible 16
What on Earth was all that waffle, some cry from a jungle cave? What's Football even for, to make up the numbers like the bloated words in your nonsensical rant of a 'comment'?? Clueless!
And then as a fan, when u try to put context to a debate, all these dumb fans do is use the same buzz words, 4 years no trophy, 600m spent, bottled the league, won fa cup with emery team, sack him now, too many dumb fans who support RUclipsrs more than they're own club
@@ajbyatt1419 Your point exactly with this comment. zero context lol
Ayo this is the first time in my life agreeing with egal. Y’all need to chill fr. We’re an elite club but not an elite team like the old days. We have regressed to a cup winning team due to what we have won in the last 20 years. As much as you don’t like it arteta has brought us back to challenging with a very good side that needs more quality. Yes arteta made an howler with a few signings and decisions and I was one of the people calling to bring a more experienced manager. I just feel he deserves some respect for not making us a banter club anymore and should get more than the end of the season to being our manager.
i would be very surprised if Jez and Northside earn above an average wage. Both are utterly thick with little to no critical thinking skills
Jez is retired, he owned his own business..
Egal, why do you waste your time arguing with these instant success guys. Thanks Dan for subtly cutting off the steam so smoothly, I could see you hanging in there. Great editing
Northside is also deluded
Egal, Salah and Haaland have missed a lot of games so that's the goal difference is similar to Arsenal
And your excuse why Arsenal scored more than Liverpool last season is...?
M8, get out of here - Facts aren't allowed, remember?? 😅
Northside is so annoying, comparing Klopp's progression at Liverpool to Arteta who is in his first job? All managers have some signings.
KLOPP: Keïta-Arthur Melo-Ben Davies-Ozan Kabak-Steven Caulker-Loris Karius-Danny ings-Sepp Van den Berg-Marko Grujic-Solanke-Ben Doak-Fabio Carvalho-Adrian-Ragnar Klavan-Minamino-Shaqiri-Thiago-Oxlade
North side getting pegged by gunner lee the white lee☝️ nasty part of the fanbase
You were saying the same things too but couple of wins have swayed you now arteta is pegging you and your mother.
@@ExpectedTrophies stop talking out of your arsenal sounds like you’re the fellacio guy ☝️jog on
@@115ffpandthephantomtreble😂😂
@@115ffpandthephantomtreble cry about it mate. Your running your mouth about someone's opinion and now I do the same to you, you start crying 🤡🤡🤡🤡 cry more.
@@ExpectedTrophies stop playing with your sister it’s effecting you mentally you hermaphrodite 😁
Just look how fucking sad Northside looks all the time. He takes his bitterness out on everything around him. Tragic.
Yeah, and Egal looks very happy doesn't he?? 25:36
I always hear that Arteta won with Uni's team. If another manager comea in and wins, will they say they won with Arteta's team? Also, Kompany's Burnley plays very differently from Burnley of the past. Game by game guys. COYG!
Jez is out of his depth I love when people like him who talk smack on the Lee gunner channel comes against some one like egal lol
Northshite needs to lay off EA FC 24!
Big Up Egal for even going on that Panel because he knows that he would be fending off everybody else who is much more negative than him
he just named every signing under 20 Million and he thinks Arteta actually wanted those under 20 Million signings 😂 I genuinely think his playing a character and has to stay on character no matter what and fairs to him it's working
Egal sticking it on these bully boys. Got all 5 of them shouting him down and tryna mug him off. Should be doing better man
Gotta unsubscribe. I'm sorry. Wawwwwww. Northside smh.
I unsubscribed a while ago lol.
Did someone speak? Oh,, nah must've been the wind. 🤡
Didn't spot Brandon there... I'll go easy.
Only Egal getting behind the club... The rest are waiting for the team to fail...
... The manager they're all dreaming of I reckon isn't going to do much better.. It's like there's no chance for improvement.
Very odd.
Pipe down. How is demanding We win a League title ''waiting for failure''.
Oh ,, yes - and 2ndTeta the brain!ac signing Edd!e the Ball Boy to a new contract is 100% wanting to smash City to pieces and storm to the League title,, isn't it?? 🤡🤡 Voices in your head, stranger.
@@netweed09 - you're the clown my G...
... Demanding to win a title shows it.
Everything you said after that is instant nonsense.
Take your clowns back.... They're in your head.
Exactly Kenny!!
Let’s just keep it real here, Pep is a great manager but he isn’t invincible as Jurgen Klopp has shown. Arteta has got Arsenal playing well again, but he does need to have a strong finish to the season to prove his worth. Not saying that he isn’t a good manager, but he has only won one trophy with a team that he inherited from Emery. I won’t accept the money excuse because the club has backed him. What I will say is some of our signings haven’t been great, and I don’t understand why we are rewarding injury prone players with new contracts, as we cannot afford to keep players who are missing for half of the season or more. Much as I rate Thomas Partey and believe he is one of our best players, we have to let him go in the summer as he’s missing far too many games. I still believe that City and Liverpool have stronger squads, and that’s not solely down to money, it’s down to better player recruitment.
Northside is the worse. So fake; at least Lee Gunner is real
lee gunner is a wet yoghurt
🤓 Cry harder though.
NorthSide is literally the one crying everyday, everybody else is chilling and enjoying good football, its just sport m8, not politics
@@reisssato902 If its 'just Sport' why are you so wound up by just another guy saying stuff about just Sport? Hm? I thought you fake lot said you were happy with your Celebration Trophies and Oscar winning camera stunts? But you seem,, bothered. Very bothered, despite being 'the happy lot who feel We are not relevant'. Yet, you notice Us proper Arsenal fans and react - very badly. Is everything Ok?
@@netweed09 Lol, after scoring 11 goals in our last two games, conceding zero and fighting for the league, u really think I'm wound up! you really are a prized plum 😂🤣😂
Jez needed a glass of water
Some of the people on this show are clowns, what club has a hundred percent transfer success rate, you will always get some wrong or that just don’t work. We can’t sit here and reel off the players that have only been poor when there is also some bangers. I agree with some parts on both sides, but theres context….atm we are okay, lets see where we end up in may and how it ended before we talk about the manager.
Dan knew that when he invited them on that it was fireworks. I wonder if he had earplugs in for most of the steam
_''atm we are okay, lets see where we end up in may and how it ended before we talk about the manager.''_ ~ Were you even here last ssn?
Tell me what happened. No stories or b$ excuses now - just tell me what happened.
@@netweed09 last season, no1 expected what we did, yes it was a bottle job, but this season is the one, im saying if we don’t win anything then lets talk in may, seems pointless to talk about it atm.
Exactly, these are the type of guys that, Arsenal make 10 signings, 9 are successful, 1 flops, they wanna focus on that 1 flop and tell everybody that the recruitment was poor, they are vultures
Go on eagal love that optimism
😂
I bet you that Northside , Lee Gunner, Kenny and Jez wont go to the Emirates and hold a banner with "Arteta out".....i am not even an Arsenal fan but i can put money on it that they wont make it out the stadium in 1 piece.....the other fans will hit them😂😂😂😂😂😂......they can only talk virtually 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jez and his wife were attacked by other Arsenal fans about a year ago, pretty dispicible.
@@GingerPewbz that's just crazy....fans are taking the game too seriously
@@GingerPewbz the way he talks to other people I'm not surprised he got attacked . People are crazy out there
That's why they are so bitter, because they can't go to games anymore and enjoy what going on right now, they made they're bed and now have to lie in it, staying bitter for years to come
This northside is an utter bell who thinks that the leauge is a cakewalk like back in the day
Northside is dumb
Egal actually won this 😂😂😂 had Jezebel fumbling, nah I’m starting to rate him he holds his own, peps going to win every league game from now on so it’s impossible for us to win it apparently, if that’s true every manager in the world bar pep is a scrub, Real Madrid don’t win every single game so they’re scrubs same with Barca Bayern juventus anyone all scrubs with scrub managers who should all be be sacked according to jez logic 😂
I think Egal won a lot of people over just by being consistent in what he says … definitely his least deluded day
What are you even on about? 😂 Jez didn't even mention near half that nonsensical toss you just served up.
Sometimes you can agree on things and discuss properly. Jez and NS need to open up a bit. Im with Egal on this. Respectful discussions are good to watch
Every person who wants Arteta out is an absolute idiot. They're ppl who want to see Arsenal fail. Xhaka has never been a 6,he was always an 8 being used as a 6. He only scored 7 goals and Havertz already scored 5 and I guarantee he'll score 10 this season. Most fans are really clueless to the reality of the game.
Egal barely believes his own rhetoric. Give him an AFTV spot. He'll fit right in.
Thank God you man don’t own the club.
Give up Jez, chatting nonsense to get a hearing
Knows more than you though because he ain't chatting nonsense. He's been backed 4 and a half years 650m and won f all.
@@ExpectedTrophies He won the FA Cup 🤦
@@franklingoodwin Imagine piping up an egg cup that Wigan won. As a man's only triumph in _4 years._ The state of you; never an Arsenal fan. 🤦♂
If you can give me Xabi Alonso, then okay sack Arteta. I will only accept the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RSFF) products.
Why not Zidane, or Mancini?
22:21 there's the chest.
You're a Gabriel/Saliba injury away from failing again. Konate/Quansah have been doing well along side VVD. We haven't had a settled CB pairing for months lad.
Big call from you at this moment.
Ah bro he never learns you'll see him go into hiding in the summer. When arsenal and his beloved arteta win nothing again.
I Keep saying we need Anderson From Crystal Palace but I am told he not good enough
@@ExpectedTrophies 💯 this. Only Drama FC fans in the comms m8. (nearly all lol)
One last thing, regardless of what happens this season.... ARTETA WILL NOT BE SACKED!!!!
Jez go have a walk
How stupid dies he feel now after we slapped Burnley 5 nil. Im.pretty sure he won't show his face again.
I wonder if Kenny and Jez also was with Lee Gunner when he broke the stadium down😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Statistics = 0 major trophies in 20yrs.
Exactly. The only stat that matters as far as I’m concerned.
Northdumbside is clever
So funny to listen to Northside and this old guy 😂😂
We have to remember arsenal have only been good for less than two year
The striker issue has just been a stick and 16 in 4 proves it.
as a Liverpool fan Egal is factually incorrect. One CB injury and it's Gomez and Quansah next in line. Quansah has been almost faultless all season. Liverpool have lost 2 games in about 35 in the PL so I think this idea it's unsustainable just doesn't make sense. If Arsenal lose a CB they are in a similar position so that point makes no sense.
Wouldn't pay attention to him tbf, he didn't add to it aswell if Saka gets injured it will probably be Reiss Nelson replacing him, where we have like 5 good attackers 😂 he's a proper waffler.
@@Liamsmith1996if Arsenal lose a CB then Ben White, Tomiyasu and Kiwior can play there. So can Timber when he’s back soon
I mean. Ben White as never played CB for arsenal. & the point in the video was like good quality depth and I would argue them players u named aren't that good mate..
Sure but he was talking about Liverpools depth as being poor. They have Quansah and Gomez that can come in, Quansah has been excellent so far. @CC-wt5wh
Kenneth Ken with his AOL dial up still gotta rate it man mad passion
😂😂😂😂😂
We re 5 points worse than last season and got Liverpool to compete with.
But egal thinks we can still win it lool we was top for 93% last szn and still bottled it.
I hope we do win it because if we go trophyless Arteta and edu have failed and need to go.
The problem is they won't go if we don't win the prem or Chapion league
It would take us Losing to Porto and come 4th behind spurs four There even two be questions asked Sadly
Ok.. His tactics have only been better becouse your winning games.. What happens when you start losing games which will happen
@@kcmegaman.6547 ? You rattled much , kid?
Forget Our embarrassing L-sandwich vs ,, Fulham already?? Had Us down for a win in that game, didn't you? 🤡
Man City final 10 games of the season is the easiest run in of the Top 3! They have a tough run of fixtures coming up, but this is Man City. If they win their game in hand they will be 3pts clear of Arsenal. If Arsenal did beat them in at the Etihad and won all the remaining games it would come down to goal difference because Man City have accumulated the most points in the 2nd half of the season for the last 6 seasons.... Arsenal is going up against that!! Also the only team to win the Premier League title without a goal scorer was Man City in 2018/19 I think.... If Arsenal want to improve, they have to win the League Title this season otherwise the stats mean nothing!
Would u rather be a quitter who cries every hurdle in life. Or man up and accept shit aint easy and keep working ur ass off to be elite. I know what side of life id rather be on. Cowards quit, blame and keep agendas then project it as strength. From top 6 cup side to fighting for prem/ucl glory and u want to quit? Says it all
UCL glory we've never won it. We have no league in 20 years and no European trophy in 30 years
@@ryankavanghnew-in4fkexactly so why quit when we're closer to those goals then we've been in over a decade. Wtf? Lol it's the most self sabotage bs I've heard.
@@krystianhoover8089 we nearly won the league in 2016 we were champ and last. This is the closest we're 5 points worse off than last year on same games
@@ryankavanghnew-in4fkI'm not going around in circles. U want KSE to bring u de zerbi n u think we finish ahead of ange let alone pep? Then it's pure delusion bro don't know what else to say
@@krystianhoover8089 no I want a manager who's a proven winner that's all. Not a project man or a guy in his first job. At least ange has won somewhere. This manager won with someone else's team destroying it after building his own then winning nothing
Arteta loves Arsenal and is not just there for the millions! like most other managers. That ole guy is really bitter! Who else is out there to manager Arsenal with the love and commitment like Arteta. If he needs help then bring staff to assist with the recruitment and other aspects of managing a huge club like Arsenal.
Why are we even talking about this? Honestly, the only people really talking about this are the two miserable malcontent youtubers Lee Gunner and Northside. Of course, we want to win titles. But, if you consider that Man City have put together probably the best team in the world right now and Liverpool are also dam good. So many unrealistic fans and press expect us to be better than both those amazing teams. It is a little ambitious but not totally out of the question for us to win. But to EXPECT it, is just wrong.
Another reason that its unfair to judge at this point in time is that Arteta is a relatively new manager compared to Klopp and Pep who have been given so many tools to win with. I can see that Arteta is actually getting better as a manager as time goes by. I do think Arteta will be a top manager in years to come. If he was fired, we would regret it. How many new managers could actually have come in and done as good a job as Arteta has done? I think probably none. Not saying he hasnt made mistakes. He has. But every manager makes mistakes.
Look at the team Arteta has put together in 4 years. Compare this to what other managers have done with the similar or greater wage bill (wages courtesy of www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/ ).
last year (2022/23) the estimated wage bills were as follows: Chelsea £217m, Man Utd £212m, Man City £185m, Liverpool £160m, Spurs £112m, Arsenal £105m, West Ham £86m
This year (2023/24) a lot has changed: Man City £190m, Man Utd £180m, Arsenal £166m, Chelsea £150m, Liverpool £135m, Aston Villa £105m
Based on spend alone, we should be 2nd or 3rd which is exactly where we are this year. So, last year we hugely over achieved based on our wage bill. If we placed last year based on our wage bill then, we would have been 6th.
I think Egal is forgetting if liverpool win every game and Arsenal liverpool win. To think Atsenal is the only team that's not going to drop points is arrogant . So your wrong Egal
Egal is entertaining! When Arsenal don't win the League Title or Champions League he'll have excuses just like last seasons....
If Arsenal win all games and ManCity win all other games, it goes to goal difference... so that game means it is a MUST WIN
What about Liverpool who are points Infront of us ?
Let’s not forget Liverpool here, they have huge motivation to finish the season on a high for Klopp.
@@ryankavanghnew-in4fkExactly, we be idiots to write them off.
No no I completely agree, I was just responding to the math point
@@MienaSidhom Liverpool would be 1 point behind because City would beat them at Anfield.
While arteta needs to deliver,context needs to be applied it’s not as cut and dry as these guys make out.how can you call city the favourites and unstoppable but then say we need to win the league😂😂😂😂. Arteta is going up against 2 of the best managers in the last 10 years and is holding his own.
This aged like milk
Egal could tell me water is wet and the earth is round and I still wouldn't wanna hear it from him because something about his voice is too whiny and puts me to sleep. Doesn't help that Egal talks absolute nonsense. Arguing with him is like arguing with someone who speaks a completely different language than you do.
Water isn't wet
Arsenal have City, Spurs and United away still. Zero points from those games
Nice one Mystic Meg 😂
Let's compete to the end and cheer on the boys. Just put in a fight
Actual clown.
i cant stand egal sometimes but he was on top of this debate.
Where did they get that gay Northside?
To be fair . What Northside is saying was true before the Westham game , scoring 6 goals in one game doesn’t really change that unless we go on a ten game run
Wow im sorry but that Jez is living in the past and talks complete rubbish
Big up Kenny northside jez Brandon, Egal and his top Gooners will never ever learn
The more I listen to Northside, the dumber I get.
Think I've been mentally corrupted also
Skill issue.
Northside is a btech Lee Gunner... posturing for engagement
The good news is that this muppet has no say on the future of Arteta. There is no debate here. No amount of Arteta out can change the current structure at the Arsenal. God forbid Arsenal missed the Top 4, Arteta is still going no where. As it is now, Arteta is a pair of safe hand in Arsenal's coaching echelons.
egal well done you did great
This one jus one big egal bashing! No balance in this debate at all! 5 against 1 😂 and he still made better points than all of them put together. Wen egal is the voice of reason u kno theres a problem 😂
It was David Egal the Goliath's.
I think the mistake a lot of people like Jez, Northside and Potts make, is they think Arsenal won't win, so they assume changing it is the right thing to do, and if/when Arsenal don't win the league etc it makes them think they're 100% right and something MUST change. Its not true. Arsenal have been improving every year since Arteta arrived, you'd be an idiot to deny this, so where do you think we're going if not towards a trophy? This impatient pettulant viewpoint of "you just care about stats, i've been waiting 20 years for Arsenal to win!" So? You aren't entitled to anything just because you waited a long time. Its so single minded and ignorant. Get back down the pub mate where everyone thinks you're a football genius. Getting a new manager garuantees you absolutely nothing. If you've learnt anything from watching Man utd & Chelsea, yes Chelsea won a lot, because they did dodgy deals to buy all the best players, which we won't do, utd chopped and changed managers and they've been a mess. and now so are chelsea. I really don't understand why you're so desperate for instability when stability and progression is extrememly rare in football. Be careful what you wish for. Arteta is what Arsenal need but you are too impatient to see it.
Nice es$ay? All that fluff for a ''how long's a piece of string'' 'argument'. Well d0ne, lol give yourself a cookie. 🍪
You know what Sticking with what we’ve currently got that hasn’t won us anything going on 4 years now guarantees us? Absolutely nothing. We were so damn quick to demand emery be sacked after a season because he wasn’t good enough so why not keep that same energy for arteta?
@marshalkagami and now many of you lot regret it for some reason 🙄 funny how time changes things. I recall many people saying Arteta would NEVER get Arsenal back into the top 4 again no more than a year ago. All people are doing is guessing.
@@dre8463 _''I recall many people saying Arteta would NEVER get Arsenal back into the top 4 again''_
b$ it's about Winning the League over 4 years (like some Successful managers worth their salt do) anyways. Not the fairytales and bedtime stories some people want to hear.
@@dre8463 we will never win major honors with arteta as our manager. He’s not good enough. Never was. And no o don’t regret emery getting sacked. He was justifiably sacked. Poorly replaced.
This clown hasn't seen the schedule,city has a gauntlet to face I'm March.
Bunch of crybabies who wanted Arteta out SOOOOOO badly that they have to carry on their agenda when he's taken Arsenal to title contender level
Has he gotten us over the line? No. Enough said.
@@marshalkagami go support city if you want to be such a glory hunter
@@Xeno389 nah, go fuck yourself. I’m an arsenal fan. This club is where my heart is at. And I want the football club that I love and support to be successful and win major honors.