Ultimate Arena Offense Guide - Summoners War
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- With Arena Rush becoming more interesting due to LD pieces being added to the rewards. A guide like this is at the right time! Hope you enjoy! Discord: / discord
Ultimate Defense Guide: • Ultimate Arena Defense...
Timestamps:
0:00 - Why to rush & why you should focus on AO rather than AD
2:30 - What every AO needs
5:00 - Typical Eshir style teams
9:20 - Anti Tian lang style offs
12:00 - F2p AO best options
16:00 - Countering high SPD defenses
19:30 - Safe clearing high RNG defenses and best bomber example
26:30 - Single Target ignore def offenses and other TL counters
29:40 - Uncommon att booster which is strong with Tiana!
32:05 - Moore-style offenses vs Triton
34:50 - Leo offenses
42:20 - Amber offenses
44:30 - Tablo offenses
46:00 - Chloe offenses
49:30 - Common offenses p2w & f2p
51:00 - Closing notes + how to build the units
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Thank you for this Video. My goal for 2024 is to be C3 Both RTA and Arena. Your video and Sean B's video are a lifesaver!
This is a very well done video. Thank you for your effort
Thanks a lot Seii !
Saw this Video and went from C1 to C3 (with a bit of luck tbh). 🙌🏼🎉
I had like the most of the Teams and didnt know about it 😆
Another really good slow cleave with christina is with a slow tiana instead of delphoi(so leo tiana galleone christina). You basically sacrifice a bit of failsafe and oblivion/cd increase for a safe strip, so you can also hit defs with buffs
Excited to watch this !
Very good and informative video im still kinda new to the whole pvp thing sadly i dont have many basic units to build most of the teams
Here we go for the LD's. Thanks!!
I came for good offenses cuz I have only 2 half decent teams and wish to learn from a master. Commenting this as someone who’s only started the video: I highly doubt I’ll be disappointed.
Edit: was not disappointed in any capacity, found this to be a deeply fascinating and enlightening video. Going to adjust my Arena teams with what I’ve learned from this in mind.
Great video!!!
Love the video, thanks for all the great ideas. Hit G1 with just one staple team (chiwu, bastet, truffle, dark samurai) and been looking for ways to climb higher with different teams... Especially after pulling Leo.
I'm about 80% done with the video so I'm not sure if you call this out later but I'm surprised no mention of dark and light samurai. Assuming you were here for either hoh, they are one of the strongest AOE f2p damage (considering the free s4 after s3).
they aren't bad but animation is also slowwww. butyea they can work :)
@@Seiishizo agreed but in my position, beggars can't be choosers! Lol
Now that you say that though, I do think it's funny how long the screen stays on sige while waiting for the other side to resurrect, BR dismount etc... I think I counted up to 7-8 seconds before.
Also thanks to your video I started toying with leo Aaliyah. No feng so I'm resorting to tractor and windy lol. It's almost auto win though, just takes time. Maybe I'll try fire Panda
Goddam wanted 10 years for this lmao Thanks so much
Slight correction needed trufle on s3 gives def break and atk bar pushback and thats huge
I mainly use tiana , galleon, zaiross ,kaki. Most of the time the defenses are cleared but i only have problem with halphas and ahmduat.
Used to run Alicia Tiana gally cheonpung offence for longest time
An Arena Offense I like to use is Psamathe(L)[despair] Triton[Swift] Bellenus[despair] Zaiross[Despair] squishy teams die often to the defens ebreak and zaiross breath and non squishies have a good chance of being despair stunned
I use a weird team with destroy runes that is leo tractor deff buffer and either copper or bulldozer and use tractor to tank and just clean one by one but is very slow mostly good for server batle
So when making an offense should i be speed turned to a couple of a monsters so that i can also interchange them if i need to? or just make completely different teams?
i got 35 spd vio slot 1 with cr,cd,acc sub which one i should gem out? planning to use the rune for vermion
the problem i am on C2 see a lot exept of camilas ! is helpas\kinki\\and multi lifes like perna\psamat\vanessa\beast riders etc basicly i AO with zerath but when he use s3 he get half hp left so all those revives units all target his ( grogen would be good but is rare to get ) i also have light art master but his dmg are not enough to clear the enemy even he cancel they passive but its so hard to make him work i need seiishizo runes for that + deborah
I’m new to SW, I have no idea about matchups, and my runes are god awful in comparison, but I’ve made found a way to beat defenses relatively easily with a CC comp with belial to clean up stall units. 😂
Truffle (dark cookie) also does atb decrease, so you can use slower damage dealers with him.
But he doesnt push as much as for instance CheonPung. So its way more rng to go with a slower dd
What about Luer? cant glance, 105 base speed. 2 turn def break with 50% push back.
Completely agree with AO is underrated a lot... I was also thinking i am not gonna be even g1 without better arena defense then i summoned lucifer and G3 almost whenever i want 😅
I need a lucifer bad 😅😅😅
how do you hit tanky HP defs, Kinki Defs and how do you deal with obvious Nemesis-Runes? I have Lucifer too, but seem to struggle against all those listed above (haven't seen the video yet)
@@merlinbroich3530 Generally kinki is not a problem you have enough damage than kinki handles. When It comes to nem runes you should learn who to hit with Leo who not to hit. For example don't hit the Triton or any stripper in case if they have nem runes it becomes instant lose,. Lets say there is an abellio on defense my turn order is Leo->Miriam->Luci then Lushen, make sure if you re gonna proc to passive of abellio, you should proc with Lucifer 2nd skill, So in this case abellio provides %20 atack bar bu Luci provides 20 + proportional to damage so Abellio can heal but they are not gonna cut you, After heal Lushen can easily finish them. That's how I play and mostly works. Btw I have will runes on every unit except Leo that also helps a lot.
Would be great a similra video for ad. Thanks for your work as always
will be released in a few minutes
@@Seiishizo you really are the sw goat man
im a big fan of luer. 105 base, skill 3 cant glance, aoe 2 turn def break and 50% atb push back.
Chiwu, bastet, luer, then damage dealer of your choice. Pung, zaiross, light KFG, Seige
I use the leo, christina galleon team, but my cleanser is Pater, not delphoi, though the amount of times the stripper fails to strip pater and not proc his passive is infuriating
10:25 Beth is a good option to push back :3
Can i use psama lora gally and ongiyoki offense?? looks good what should i change . No tiana btw
arena offense sometime can be so depressing when the vio proc from enemy defense goin crazy 🗿
you'r really the best content creator for sw such a good guide
Kekw trinity doesnt even make the list, the council of buff trinity aproves.
haha forgot about her, but her only thing is kinda 3x fight style
Hit G1 a month ago for the first time and been able to for every week since . Tho I've only got one AO and not being able to hit a lot of defences is a pain + a lot of attacks on chance it's annoying
Been dying for frr and this vid comes out right before it perfect timing so hopefully I can get a few more teams to have a bigger variety of defences I can hit maybe even get to G2 or higher
Nice video !
Btw do you have any idea for good AO with Asima?
I’ve been trying to build some AO teams around her (as she’s my only Ld5*) but none of them is really decent😢
asima can work like truffle as best armorbreaker or as 15cr unit in the rica spot at rica amber.
I really glad that i have lucifer
I know a lot of people say it but I was in g1 in rush then 2 mins later c3 I need to work on AD I will say AO is something really important though
So what I learned from this is that I really need to pull a Leo :I
it gives many options yea
Hi Seii! Triton or Woonsa for the Amber offense?
Thanks for the work, help a lot 💪🏼
triton in case they have 0 will
Could have put Manannan in the decent aoe damage, as a M owner it is a cheat code if well runed
I just use pretty simple Teams xD
Oberon/Psama Kabilla Teon Fatlushen
Zaiross/Charlotte Tiana Galle Verad
Oberon Odin Bastet Eleanor
Sadly no Chiwu yet to do some other stuff
Chiwu Eshir galleon light kfg is my current AO and its work well.
Its works well in c1-3?
i finished g1 so yes it works@@xiaoyao2111
What about the auto teams? I don't have feng or molly so i was hoping you had some alternatives listed out at the end for the slow auto AO teams they go into.
tractor/windy aliyah leo or something maybe?
I dont have aliyah, I have abellio, woosa, amelia, artamiel, kinki, and amarna. I tried Arta all light and it wasnt great, tried WMK, leo, abellio, woosa and it is okay but is far from being able to auto most comps i can't cleave or CC.@@Seiishizo
God shit bro 🎉
Can your mix Amber and high dmg Bael? He has anticlanse and he got a Buff and he make a lot of dots
never tried, but can be possible
Haven't finished the video but what about Praline? Attack/Crit buff and speed lead!!!
Thought the same, can make runing single target nukers pretty easy too.
true true, forgot about that one, but its a good unit.
Plan on doing AD video ? I don't have camilla, vanessa or karnal so i struggle to find a good AD for G3. Would Psa Triton Nora Amduat be good ?
yep video coming in a few min
Alicia is pretty good too. She just needs to kill/freeze one unit to get a turn instantly. That way she guarantees crit on skill two against Kinki and other wind units. One such team that consistently gets me to G1 during rush on Asia is Alicia (L), Zaiross, Tiana and Galleon. This works pretty much always if I know that I can outspeed the defense. You have strip, cool time increase, potential freeze ( if you didn't kill already) and an absurd amount of damage.
correct i kinda forgot to mention her.
I have all of the Units, but how do you clear SPD defenses? Or do you Just skip them
@@Max_W02 Definitely not skip. Like Sei said, I have been using a variation of Chiwu offense for defenses with a 33 lead minus a high base speed unit (Triton, Woonsa etc).
Example - If the defense is rocking a Psama lead with Clara, Savannah plus X or something similar in general, I would pretty much always use Chiwu, Eshir, Galleon and Pungbaek.
Pungbaek so because his damage on Psama is about 60 to 70kish (he prevents the revive passive too) and the splash is more than enough to wipe the rest. The Eshir laps and ends up cleaning up the dismounted rider. You could use something else instead of Pungbaek too but then you get hit by Psama passive.
Another example -
If the defense is based on Vanessa variations, this becomes tricky as the monsters there are generally somewhat bruiserish and Pungbaek S3 is often not enough. Let's say they have a Vanessa, Triana, Camilla plus X or something similar. I would pretty much always use a single target snipe team.
My preferences for such defenses without strips is Alicia lead with double Odin + support ( Nana, Ganymede etc). I personally use a dark Kassandra for the four slot.
This team is similar to Sei's double Sonia team but with a lot of synergy and the ability to constantly ignore defense through the Odins. If you do not have Odin, you may be able to get away with Nem builds on Fire Kassandra, Fire Battle Angel or something else that ignores defense and has some survivability; feel free to experiment a little my friend.
For defenses with outspeedable strip like Nora, Juno etc I run a variation of the same team as above except with a speed lead ( Dark Kassandra) but you could very well use Vanessa or the Wind Madeline Cookie. Snipe the annoying unit first (Triana, Manon, Vanessa, Nora) and continue from there. Again Nana is somewhat key for fail safe-ing in these teams.
If you have Sonia, run something similar to Sei's team.
Hope this helps!
What about the Nigong, Geldnir,Molly,Audrey defenses? Wish he would have covered how to counter the heavy LD defenses more than the regular ones
hmm no strip, little rng. not a great def i'd say
Would Chiwu Eshir Galleon Hanwul work in g1? He did so low dmg when i tried him
its hard to give him enough dmg on that spd yea
Im Testing this talisman offens
Do you see any AO I can use with dark eivor? She has a pretty good ATB Boost and ATK Buff
as mentioned, he's too rng and might trigger abelio/psama passive. might as well take a bastet for atb boost + att buff in AO
im autoing everything with leo aliyah feng fermion
"The whole shabang of annoying shit".. proceeds to pick abellio. That shit was fuckin hilarious.
@Seiishizo What do you think about Trinity Lushen Craig Frigate AO? 90% AoE ATBar Boost and enemy team loses 30% max HP before Trinity and Lushen dmg comes in..
Btw: you completely forgot about Trinity as 33% SPD lead and AoE DD
true forgot about trinity she can be okay, but I've never seen her do something a psama can't. but maybe the people that have her didn't try enough :p
@@Seiishizo My AO mentioned above with Craig and Trinity works really good. You can play 0 SPD because of SPD Buff and 90% Push and enemy loses 30% max HP (15% Craig, 15% Trinity).
Psama only does about equal dmg when he dies. Single Psama S2 is pretty weak tbh
hey seishizo i have vancliffe jaara sigrid and beezlebub any reccomendations for those units
i use sigrid instead of bastet btw
not really AO units
Can Zen (wind shadowcaster) be a good monster in an attack arena team?
nah he's a bad stripper.
What would you say are the speeds required for punisher and guardian 1?
I'm asking to know what I can sort of "expect" to be able to climb to to not set my expectations too high. Never really did Arena
no X number of speed is equal to X number of rank, it depends on more factors than that.
Hi Seii
I have a tian lang, Lucifer and Leo and was wondering if this is usable as a defense? I saw an example it in a Reddit post from a while ago but don't know if it's effective or still works. I am also wondering what a good 4th unit would be. I have been using abbelio but he is not great with tian lang. I also have stuff like Camilla, Nora and Woosa
defense video is coming in a few minutes, i recommend checking that :)
@@Seiishizo thanks :)
any good AO against halphas tianlang nyx celia?
nasty one, i'd say sonia + beth pure vanilla cookie kinda style
@@Seiishizo forgot beth exists, but still risky as celia has higher base spd
Hey Sei, what you think is a Good Tian Lang Defense 😂
What about trinity as a speed lead?
can do, but isn't great
I just saw this and realized I am doing it all wrong? I only use Psama, Bastet, Lushen +1
No leo moment
What would a team with lucifer look like?
Leo, Lucifer, Mariam, Lushen as long as there's no TL/Amduat or stuff like that.
@@fearfulclone5486thx
Isnt asima quite great for ao?
yep she is, she's same as truffle but better, and great on the rica amber spot instead of rica
Where is Lucifer and u didnt talk about maxi
my hanwul hits arnd 49-55k
Clutch timing. Haven’t touched arena in like 5 years but can’t pass up on a free ld scroll every week
Next Video for defense?
correct
@@Seiishizo oh nice, thank you
miles-douman-woosa-racuni, eat tank def arena
sure, if you want to spend 8 business days clearing
As a douman owner, i just couldnt be bothered using her in AO.
trinity,hanwul crying in the corner
u need a video of practice for perfect this lerning
running giants all day every day to get mayabe one usable swift rune is literally bullshit and makes me hate this game so much.
are you in b10 or something? Not getting anything crazy is normal but you definitely should get more than a few usable runes farming for days on end