The monks were like, "I can fix him." Then they go, "IT BACKFIRED! He learned the Ultimate Technique that could only be achieved with a pure of heart, then becomes evil again. And now he can use the technique WHILE BEING EVIL!"
Okay. Let me get this straight: Heihachi was saved by some monk before getting splashed on a lava, then he has amnesia, then he went through some training with the “Tekken Monks”, then he endured on some trial, then he destroyed that giant meteor after the space battle between Jin and Kazuya, then Heihachi regained his memories, became evil once again, killed the Tekken Monks, defeated Yoshimitsu, Eddy, and Lidia, and finally, Heihachi began his path to his reign of terror once more, in hopes to bring the Mishima Zaibatsu back to its knees?! …This whole story is making my head hurt. I give up.
In tekken 7 we clearly see Heihachi die and fall into the volcano,you mean to tell me according "this game" That never happened or Kazuya is somehow blind,he couldn't see a monk jump into save his pops?
@@cmurphy0707 I suppose that's gonna be the answer, but that drop down to the volcano must be 8 billion feet high for Kazuya to have dropped him, waited a second and then said his "a fight is about line", THEN closed his eyes and THEN had Akuma interrupt him before Seiryu saves Heihachi. Idk why they couldn't have just made it so they resurrected him from hell
I let it slide when Kazuya, came back in T4 after being resurrected from being thrown in a volcano, I let it slide Jinpachi being resurrected after dying of starvation by a random spirit with absolutely no explanation of what that spirit is or where it came from, I let it slide when Heihachi survived an explosion by the Jack-4’s in Hon-Maru let it slide when Jin decided to start an unnecessary war to wake up Azazel & didn’t accomplish getting rid of the devil gene within him, I let it slide of Heihachi having random ass children with no explanation who their mothers are, BUT this storyline is just absolutely ridiculous.
I stopped trying to make sense of Tekken's plot shortly after I heard about it. This is the universe with kung fu bears, cute anime robot girls and a vampire in desperate need of coffee. Nothing makes sense.
@@mrghost3938 Bison is understandable if people actually paid attention to the story like they claim to. Bison has virtual immortality, he and psycho power are one in the same. As long as hatred and fear exists, psycho power will exist. As long as psycho power exists, Bison will always be there.
@@shirakani Same goes for Namco and Heihachi. He's too iconic. However, the the story surrounding him coming back in 8 is kinda lame. I would've preferred a resurrection arc instead, but this is still understandable due to the fact that us the viewers never saw Heihachi hit the lava, we are only led to believe that Kazuya witnessed the whole thing since the camera panned to him in the final moments. Who knows, Kazuya could've turned away the moment that monk saved Heihachi. Only time will tell.
@@shirakani I find it funny that most of these people care so much about a damn story yet have either no frame of reference to the story or only have surface level knowledge of the story. Goofy.
I can't be the only one that thinks the reasoning for his survival is a huge ass pull. It feels like Heihachi was a last minute inclusion to the roster and they had to think up a bullshit reason he survived 7
@@PATOfThePATForced to come back? 😂 It was probably planned that way before the game was released. Namco has gotten greedy as hell since the last few games.
@iitvoii I meant that I think Harada really didn't want to bring the character back ( Maybe because of the story, and he kept saying that the character's dead ) but was forced by higher-ups to do so, or he really doesn't have any control over who gets to be in the game.This is just a guess, so I could be wrong
@@PATOfThePATbro he literally always tells the fans don’t ask me for shet he obviously does what he wants and he brought heihachi by his own free will it’s just proves that harada is a bad writer that’s all😂
So in the episode menu we learn more about who Reina is. Apparently, she is the last daughter of the Hachijou clan (the same clan Kazumi was a part of), Heihachi after EWGF every Hachijou member for whatever reason, spared "a baby daughter" (most likely Reina) and trained her in secret before confronting Kazuya. So, in part she's a step sibling of Kazuya and Jin but her last name was Hachijou. Sadly, Heihachi didn't get busy with another random woman during his dementia.
You'd think Yoshimitsu wouldn't sign up for this knowing Bryan Fury, who was saved by Dr. Bosconovitch and his clan but attacked them instead out of fun. He would vehemently oppose this idea of rehabilitating Heihachi or at the very least, be very cautious of him.
Ending was bittersweet and made all the buildup and events he experienced throughout ultimately pointless. Why even have him do all the training, trials, self-reflection, and searching just to immediately discard it to go back to "I'm evil again, and will once again seek Kazuya for the upteenth time". Could've literally just started with him waking as evil for all that... character growth just said "fck it"
i guess the logic is that now he has the ultimate mishima technique so if kazuya is still somehow buffed after his fight with jin, Heihachi now has a story reason why he can match the both of them.
People need to remember Heihachi was never a good person The whole Tekken 7 ordeal is giving a why Heihachi has problem with the Devil genes or more specifically with Kazuya and Jin Heihachi is still the same old evil man
I think the reason ppl are upset, at least for me personally, is that I'm all good with Heihachi being evil and never having been good but it makes the entire story of his return in T8 pointless through and through. They could've straight up made him wake up on demon time, but they made all the events that were posed as character growth all just so he could get a technique he'd never have learned otherwise. Yes, he has the ultimate Mishima technique now but we can all definitively say him achieving it was one of the biggest asspulls in all of fiction. Why even invest time into the story if its literally gonna be the same thing again?
@@trillatsunset I will be really honest Heihachi coming back was a matter of time (or at least his moveset) However I was really hoping he came back as a robot Both as a silly and serious answer
Forreal, they spent an entire game trying to humanize their biggest antagonist in the franchise, just for him to pull a complete 180 and become evil again in the next game. Only this time he's locked behind a paywall alongside his stage (Which is sold separately).
@@JordanFanatic Real. What was even the point of trying to humanize Heihachi via amnesia if they're just going to have him be evil again. What a waste of time. I would rather have Heihachi just come out of the lava unscathed instead of being saved by a random monk and have amnesia.
This is the final nail in the coffin for Tekken's "story". Just when Harada had us all impressed, having the balls to kill off Heihachi in Tekken 7, only for him to bring him back in what was undoubtedly one of the laziest and stupidest manner possible. Remember when he said "Heihachi is completely dead"? Heihachi didn't progress at a character at all. Kazuya and Jin lost hte devil gene, only for us to find out that there are actually a number of carriers out there who also have the devil gene and Heihachi plans to awaken them. Looks like this franchise will never move past the Mishimas or have any meaningful progression in its story. What a joke.
@@sirlimen333 You know who's worse than Harada? The angry mob cabal inside the TK community like everyone on this asinine statement, they need to be ousted once and for all.
@@floatytoasty I can't even ask him to get hired if I can't ask him for shit. I'm a game designer and programer, and even I fear Harada wouldn't ever take shit from me.
@@floatytoastyWho would want to get hired by Harada lmao The only thing i would want is to let me write the stories(i have actually gotten a few licensed lessons in script writing and story telling,they were part of courses)
Tekkens story has always been batshit ridiculous but fun and this is the first time I feel like it’s just not good. Way too convenient to bring Heihachi back like this.
It honestly would have been better and more digestible for heihachi to literally be like. YOU THOUGHT LAVA COULD BEAT ME? NO! He survived the explosion in tekken 5. That's frankly much more impressive than the lava. The heat, impact, and major crash is harder to survive than a small lava bath tbh.
Well sometime we need a monster to defeated a monster,we need heihachi to put kazuya back to his place,also if we are the same pov as other people in tekken we would see jin and kazuya are the same since their devil power are threats for this world and heihachi is the only human who can beat these devils a**
@@nicholasnorman4179 just remember before this dude master his ki in current time,bro literally used brute strength and martial art to beat the sh*t out of azazel,jinpachi,jin and kazuya devil form and almost equal akuma the literally demon himself that can put a good fight with asura in asura wrath 💀
at this scene he was supposed to deflect it by his hands but doing a headbutt literally gave him back to his old side or he was just like that ever since then...
Shit like this makes me really despise the fact that the writer for tekken 4 was clearly never hired for another game again. There is genuinly some good ingredients here for a really cool story aspect to tekken but they just waste tf out of its potential.
That was 20 plus years ago. 4 is an outlier, the story of Tekken has been always like this. I'm ok with it. Also 4 sucked, it's probably with Tekken 1 the worst
@CYB3R2K the way tekken writing "has been" is straight dogshit and should be better. Being 20 years ago is irrelevant, tekken 4 is the best attempt at story in the franchise by a MILE.
@@CYB3R2K stop hating tekken 4 was a underrated pearl the music the stages (especially Hon-Maru) the costumes the select screen and the characters ending all was done good
lmao so stupid, Kazuya literally saw him fall into the lava You can see the ending in 7 how he takes a while to look away from where he dropped Heihachi
Good Heihachi was such a cool dude. Not only did the story get worse as a result of this version being destroyed the way it was, but we lost a potential amazing development for the character in possible future installments.
This story is so stupid. They should've just brought him back as a non-canon character like his wife Kazumi. Make him appear in flashbacks in story mode instead to justify bringing him back. Lmao.
...So no character growth? No making him see the light and actually be a good dude after all of those events? Should have just stayed dead. What a waste
Have u seen his reveal trailer and character trailer? All of his dialogues in both trailers just seem like old evil Heihachi to me. I don't know why you get the idea that he would change.
@@sakdavith6969They could have had evil Heihachi for the gameplay and character interactions, but redeemed Heihachi in the story mode. Kind of like how Devil Jin merges with Jin, forgives and embraces himself, getting angel wings in the process, but in gameplay he's still "haha I'm gonna kill everyone 🤪"
The growth would actually turn Heihachi fans down. I'm pretty sure the JP guys are expecting him to get back to his old self because it's what we know and love about him. xD
Something that I suspect is that Heihachi's line of Mishima were still assholes and that Jinpachi was not a good parent to Heihachi but regretted what he did after WW 2 and wanted peace and reformed the Mishima clan and style to become benevolent. but Heihachi wasn't having none of it and took the Zaibatsu for himself, Jinpachi didn't want to take any chances with Heihachi and got looked up in Honmaru as a result to die, which lead to Kazumi to enact her plan to kill Heihachi. Heihachi prior to regaining his memories is a nice guy and chill and since it's tied to his memories and he knows that was a terrible person, it's clear that Heihachi is a broken man who got even more broken because of his Wife's betrayal. Don't forget that Kazumi was willing to have Kazuya die if she died like most deranged mothers would do to deny their father having custody of their children, not to mention that the Hachijo clan are utter hypocrites. Tekken is a tale about how bad parenting and a cursed legacy can ruin anyone that don't have that one good parent to help them alongside friends to keep them from breaking bad. Jin the hero because he both had the character, luck and will to break the cycle of Mishima and Hachijo maliciousness, Kayuza his chance but failed, Heihachi had two chances and failed. In the end, they are bad because because of both nature and nurture thus they are irredeemable because of it.
Even with Heihachi being saved from the lava, Kazuya still stopped Heihachi heart before dropping him. I'm guessing that monk had a defibrillator on hand. 🙄
Its basically certain that him being saved is a lie. Heihachi after gaining back his memories implies he fell in lava,died,went to hell and was resurrected. Its an incomplete story. Thats how Tekken works,you need several games to find out crucial details. Like how we had to wait for this DLC to learn Reinas origin
End of Mishima saga? Lot of bullcrap. Because I feel in Tekken 9 it will probably still focused on Mishima family feud again considering Heihachi manage to be back from the dead.
My only hope is that Tekken 9 will instead focus on Lars and Heihachi instead of Kazuya or Jin. Let him be the one to throw his father into a volcano for once
@@odd-eyes6363 i don't think that this will happen, cus the story focus in the first place was to destroy the devil gene, which WAS heihacho's task before but now jin is trying to, and since reina is the only one left to have the gene. I think the developers will make the story about jin coming back to fight again as to destroy the gene once and for all, and also if you focus on jin's arm which has the devil gene's mark, you will find that it didn't vanish which means that jin also still has the devil gene, but it needs to be reactivated. This is my expectation for tekken 9 story continunity, i don't know about you
@@Waik94 the old reliable: if a big hit makes you forget your memories, hit yourself again. Heihachi is so savage that he restored his memories headbutting a meteor 🤣🤣🤣
The ending of Tekken 7 had such a huge emotional impact, decades in the making. Tons of fans, many of whom had been there since day one, saw a climactic conclusion to one of the biggest parts of the tekken storyline. And they ruined it... god damnit
Id be way more interested if after heihachi regained his memories he was still a good guy, and his new quest would be to try and make ammends with his family.
That would have been more interesting, although considering he tossing them off cliffs and into volcanoes and shoots them…I doubt he would have succeeded.
@@victoriamullakandova1594 but that would've made it awesome. Like he knows that no matter what he's already beyond redemption, but in his twilight years he tries to help Kazuya progress as a person and learn that absolute power might not be the end goal he wants. Jin is already on his redemption arc. Turning Heihachi into a zen Buddhist, or even a Taoist martial artist would've been a cool direction. But I guess he's back to being pure evil again.
@@ponsuwan6942 I guess Harada prefers him that way, I guarantee he’ll probably betray Reina in the future given his complete lack of affection for any of his kids or grandkids. His pet bears are the only ones he seems to actually care about.
@@victoriamullakandova1594 Heihachi has an interaction with Jin saying he is useless to him now. He also has an interaction with Reina saying that she IS useful to him. My instincts tell me there will be betrayal. Probably after managing to successfully steal the Devil Gene from her with his new Supermonk powers. I would have loved a Pop-pop Heihachi so much... 💔Jin would certainly forgive him if he reformed, although I'm not if sure Kazuya ever could. Perhaps only with Jun's influence. As preposterous as this story development is, I believe the most probable reason he's returned is because Reina is not quite as popular as they hoped she would be in terms of a "Heihachi replacement." They need to keep the balance of power shifting between at least three well liked characters, which is far easier to juggle and keep the story interesting, even if it sometimes lacks continuity. Since its possible Kazuya may become an antihero in the next installment and join up with Jin (or at least develop a more neutral relationship), they still need conflict for the story, so they bring back a "villain" that is considerably the most popular. Perhaps also in an attempt to increase Reina's backstory and likability. They may be testing the waters to see what people will prefer and also what will best sell: a redeemed Heihachi or the traditional villain. I still hope for the former someday but find it highly unlikely. I mean, the series is 30 years old. I'm sure it can be a challenge to constantly keep coming up with more ideas to keep both new and old players equally intrigued. That said: I would actually laugh if Kazuya ended up with his own amnesia redemption arc next... 😉
@@victoriamullakandova1594 Jin no longer hates the Mishimas, Lars and Lee (who also has put his past behind) may act like Lidia and Yoshimitsu in this video albeit Heihachi is known for being deceptive....
It's like an Indian drama serial, where a person died years ago suddenly appears and said that the body burned was not his body but another body with his face put on plastic surgically....hahahaha
Facts! I would have even loved an antihero neutral Heihachi, after all the Tekken Monks literally spoke about the importance of balance. He spent time as a pure-hearted man, conquered his inner darkness, and then faces his old memories which could make him balanced. Similar to how Akuma isn't a main antagonist, Heihachi could be a kinder but still brutal warrior seeking a new ultimate style that could surpass both the Devil and Angel. Then, seek out all dem damn kids to pass on said style. That's what I woulda done
It's not like we even needed him to be a villain anymore, isn't the whole point of Reina in Tekken 8 her taking the mantle of series villain? Have Heihachi move on from the world domination and her go "fine, I'll do it myself" and try to achieve the goal he abandoned. I hope they don't make Reina take a backseat to Heihachi
@@trillatsunsetYeah I was hoping Heihachi would become the wise, yet still badass version, like he is still crazy strong, but not as crazy evil. Like a lot of DBZ villains etc he is bad, but joins the good guys for awhile. Maybe he is conflicted because he may have to kill his favorite (apparently) offspring Reina who has the Devil Gene.
@@silenthero2795 That's never going to happen. It sucks because I want Asuka to have some relevance but sadly, I'm gonna have to accept that it's been 5 games since her debut and nothing of importance has happened with her since then and probably never will.
If they wanted to bring back Heihachi as a playable character, they should have gone for something else instead of this illogical resurrection arc. I liked that Reina had many of the same moves. Perhaps one of these monks could have carried on the style of Mishima-Karate, then Heihachi could have remained dead and we would have a Heihachi-esqe character to play with.
….so you’re telling me that Kazuya has good enough eyesight to snipe a satellite from space but not good enough to see a monk save his dad? Is that what we are led to believe?
Assuming Heihachi being saved isnt a lie by tye monks then yes,its impossible for Tekken 7 and this DLC to co exist. This is far beyond a "retcon". But i think its most likely they lied to him based on what Heihachi says in his intros with other characters
Don't worry, everyone. Maybe heihach is thinking that the monk saved him cause he didn't really have that much memories. Maybe he actually obtained the devil gene from the punch he got from kazuya.maybe the mark on his chest will unleash chaos😀
The way Kazuya was brought back to life by G corporation in T4. Heihachi was punched in the heart that it was stopped by Kazuya, and there's no foreshadowing that a monk coming to his rescue in a volcano while Kazuya was watching Heihachi fall into the lava and didn't see the monk rescue the dead body from going in the lava, and Heihachi came back to life with no details about how his heart is beating again after being stopped within a year after T7. I know this is TMI but the plot twist made no sense when it comes to this game's characters
Story-quality aside, I gotta say I freaking love the music of the final fight. It's a real good remix of his T2-theme with what sounds like his T3-theme sprinkled in. It conveys the feeling of "Hell yeah! Heihachi is back!" and "Oh no! Heihachi is back!" at the same time. Definitely boosts the feeling that you're playing as the final boss in this segment.
So now that both Jin and Kazuya don't have the Devil Gene, and Heihachi is even stronger while his daughter has awoken her Devil Gene, how in the world are they going to stop them? Jun better have some weird magic up her sleeve.
It's tekken. Nobody dies. I am sure they survived and will teach the secret Mishima technique either to Kaz or Jin to stop Heihachi. Tekken story can be guessed by a toddler at this point. People knew that jin will become angel against kaz even before T8 came out lol.
She didnt held her own at all. Gameplay isnt canon,only the cutscenes are or obligatory gameplay scenes. But whatever is in players control is non canon cause it depends on how well you play. They all likely lost in some seconds
Beat thing they could have done is make him playable but have him be in a flashback just like kazumi from 7 dont know why they felt like bringing him back to life
8:24 I remember in older tekkens that if either Devil Jin, Heihachi or Kazuya hit you with the stone head and then press 1+2 on a timing i forgot, you can actually counter it with another stone head, they can do the same, it can go on anf ok until either one's health bar dies out.
Yes, your thinking of Heihachi's 2nd stonehead throw which was FF1+4. He had it for awhile and if its used against any Male character, if you press/mash 1 you can headbutt him back, but Heihachi can do the same. It was called headbutt carnival. Edit: Despite it being more of a funny thing, it did actually give Heihachi a legit throw mixup because you don't know if he was going to do FF1+2 stonehead or FF1+4 version. The only indication visually was that one of the throws changed the camera, the other did not. This was made even funnier from T6 onwards where he got the DF2+3 headbutt throw as well, 3 headbutt throws! But that one wasn't cheesable since you could see the hand difference. Anna had a similar thing with one of her slaps, used against any Female character, they could slap her back. Nerd comment over :P
@@maligno1612 Well considering how this franchise is choosing to operate now , they are going to do an ass pull move to bring him back like they did with Heihachi in this game and they will do the same with Kazuya too in the future
harada missed a trick there (or several). firstly, heihachi turning good *permanently* would be a nice reverse parallel of kazuya, who turned evil permanently after tekken 1. it would also justify the whole "heihachi mishima is dead" thing (since the old him would technically be dead) and the "end of the mishima saga" as well since good heihachi wouldn't necessarily go after his progeny like the evil one does. here's an idea that would've worked if they'd stuck with kazuya making a faustian deal with the *actual* devil rather than having the "devil gene": at the moment of death, in another parallel with kazuya, heihachi makes that same bargain to be saved and given the power to beat kazuya, and he also gets the devil powers he's coveted for so long. devil heihachi basically. it'd definitely make his survival more believable if it was literally divine intervention, but since harada made the devils & angel more into creatures than supernatural beings you can't really do that. in any case, tekken's story has always been insane and underwhelming in equal measure, and this is no different sadly
Man, this is the same dude that bit a bullet at point blank, survived multiple bombs exploding in his face, and tanked a goddamn RAGING DEMON from Akuma. Of course he'd be alive. I don't think he would have died even if he HAD hit the lava.
@@CmlwhtHarada will explain later that Heihachi's secret evil brother is Reina's father, but he died decades ago of AIDs and everyone forgot about him.
@@Pynappuru Wait, wtf why would Heihachi adopt someone from there?? You're telling me he would throw his own kid off a cliff but adopt a kid with the devil gene?
All I can figure is the distortion and ringing sound as he falls in the volcano indicating that, maybe he died and was reborn in a new body or this story is not literal but Heihachi's personal hell, that he escapes to be reborn. Because finding an M. Bison clone in an alleyway is more graceful than this.
That story would have work if first Heihachi had learnt from its past, second if Kazuya wouldn't have seen him die and third if he wasn't on Tekken 8 but as a teaser at the end.
Look i love Heihachi , his legacy will always be undisputed but this , he , Bison and Frieza are nothing but Saturday morning Cartoon villains at this point , its ridiculuous
They wasted Akuma in 7 and Jun in 8, couldn’t figure out which side to put Jin on (from hero to war criminal now back to hero) and now what could have been an actual interesting take on Heihachi all to keep the tired Mishima feud going for probably another 4 games.
Harada realized that Reina sucks and had to bring Heihachi back using the first silly story (well, the whole T8 story is silly AF) that comes to his team's mind...
Damn the lava save for a second, they didn't even address his heart stopping after the patricide fist. He was dead as hell already, the lava was a double tap. How... nevermind.
I knew Heihachi was still alive. A man who takes a dozen exploding JACKs to the face isnt going to be bothered by that love tap Kazuya gave him, or a little bit of lava.
Pretty ignorant comment. First off Heihachi himself says he died in his special intros,the guy saw Hell and he is glowing red now. Second its not about what he can logically survive. Its about narrative importance,the explosion meant nothing cause it was never meant by the writers to kill him,they literally show him alive in the same game. Tekken 7 though very much meant to kill him. Also Kazuya>>>Jacks The Jacks are fodder It wasnt because of a "love tap" it was because at that point he has already gone through everything and didnt have anymore in him. In the Tekken 7continuity its undeniable he died. So no,he wasnt alive. They just brought him back in a DLC His ability to survive,like any character,depends on what the writer wants. Not "oh he survived that so this wont be a problem". He died because the writers wanted him to and they brought him back because thats what Harada wanted.
using story as an aspect to judge how good a tekken game is so silly. Thats like thinking a pro basketball player sucks because he hasn't thrown a touchdown in his career.
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The monks were like, "I can fix him."
Then they go, "IT BACKFIRED! He learned the Ultimate Technique that could only be achieved with a pure of heart, then becomes evil again. And now he can use the technique WHILE BEING EVIL!"
That's pure evil! Or pure unadulterated badass! Or pure unadulterated ego!
I can fix him and Mishimas just doesn't get along
Funny thing is majority of players thought he became good guy lol
Heihachi Mishima is an arsehole with wooden balls. Guy is like Communist 5.0 on Steroids.
Okay. Let me get this straight: Heihachi was saved by some monk before getting splashed on a lava, then he has amnesia, then he went through some training with the “Tekken Monks”, then he endured on some trial, then he destroyed that giant meteor after the space battle between Jin and Kazuya, then Heihachi regained his memories, became evil once again, killed the Tekken Monks, defeated Yoshimitsu, Eddy, and Lidia, and finally, Heihachi began his path to his reign of terror once more, in hopes to bring the Mishima Zaibatsu back to its knees?!
…This whole story is making my head hurt. I give up.
Classic Tekken 😂😂
summary: heihachi, not dead, SUPER evil, just got back from amnesia
If this gives you a headache then don't play any Shin megami tensei or kingdom hearts
@@asuratakehaya6884Or Metal Gear Solid 😂
I like how both SF and Tekken have their main villains with Amnesia only for both to waste it on and just have it go back to their ways.
In tekken 7 we clearly see Heihachi die and fall into the volcano,you mean to tell me according "this game" That never happened or Kazuya is somehow blind,he couldn't see a monk jump into save his pops?
Retcons man. It never happened.
i love how when tekken finally tries to explain the resurrection of a character, we’re more confused 💀
One, it was a high cliff. Two, Kazuya couldn’t see Heihachi land in the lava because he was preoccupied with fighting Akuma.
@@cmurphy0707 I suppose that's gonna be the answer, but that drop down to the volcano must be 8 billion feet high for Kazuya to have dropped him, waited a second and then said his "a fight is about line", THEN closed his eyes and THEN had Akuma interrupt him before Seiryu saves Heihachi.
Idk why they couldn't have just made it so they resurrected him from hell
Nonsense
I let it slide when Kazuya, came back in T4 after being resurrected from being thrown in a volcano, I let it slide Jinpachi being resurrected after dying of starvation by a random spirit with absolutely no explanation of what that spirit is or where it came from, I let it slide when Heihachi survived an explosion by the Jack-4’s in Hon-Maru let it slide when Jin decided to start an unnecessary war to wake up Azazel & didn’t accomplish getting rid of the devil gene within him, I let it slide of Heihachi having random ass children with no explanation who their mothers are, BUT this storyline is just absolutely ridiculous.
Hey, at least Kazuya skipped a whole game before being brought back
@@iskanderrg right! Exactly and T3 was a great game & a classic
Like the other events of the Tekken series aren't as ridiculous as this current story line lol
@@ribajum4190 no there all ridiculous bro, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying enough is enough already
I stopped trying to make sense of Tekken's plot shortly after I heard about it. This is the universe with kung fu bears, cute anime robot girls and a vampire in desperate need of coffee. Nothing makes sense.
This is somehow a bigger ass pull than Bison still being alive in SF6
At least Bison died technically and he’s back because soul power pullcrap.
@@mrghost3938 Bison is understandable if people actually paid attention to the story like they claim to. Bison has virtual immortality, he and psycho power are one in the same. As long as hatred and fear exists, psycho power will exist. As long as psycho power exists, Bison will always be there.
@@CGImpala Also known as Capcom know they cannot write any of the 12 OG World Warriors off, ever. They are the 'soul' of Street Fighter.
@@shirakani Same goes for Namco and Heihachi. He's too iconic. However, the the story surrounding him coming back in 8 is kinda lame. I would've preferred a resurrection arc instead, but this is still understandable due to the fact that us the viewers never saw Heihachi hit the lava, we are only led to believe that Kazuya witnessed the whole thing since the camera panned to him in the final moments. Who knows, Kazuya could've turned away the moment that monk saved Heihachi. Only time will tell.
@@shirakani I find it funny that most of these people care so much about a damn story yet have either no frame of reference to the story or only have surface level knowledge of the story. Goofy.
I can't be the only one that thinks the reasoning for his survival is a huge ass pull. It feels like Heihachi was a last minute inclusion to the roster and they had to think up a bullshit reason he survived 7
Anyone remember when Harada said that Heihachi can't be any more dead than he was in Tekken 7? Yeah, what a load of crap that was.
No no, he has a point. He can't be any more dead than he was after that.
Do you think they'll ever let him die more than they did then? Of course not.
Part of me actually believes he wants to keep him dead, but he was forced to bring him back because the company wants more money.
@@PATOfThePATForced to come back? 😂 It was probably planned that way before the game was released. Namco has gotten greedy as hell since the last few games.
@iitvoii I meant that I think Harada really didn't want to bring the character back ( Maybe because of the story, and he kept saying that the character's dead ) but was forced by higher-ups to do so, or he really doesn't have any control over who gets to be in the game.This is just a guess, so I could be wrong
@@PATOfThePATbro he literally always tells the fans don’t ask me for shet he obviously does what he wants and he brought heihachi by his own free will it’s just proves that harada is a bad writer that’s all😂
So in the episode menu we learn more about who Reina is. Apparently, she is the last daughter of the Hachijou clan (the same clan Kazumi was a part of), Heihachi after EWGF every Hachijou member for whatever reason, spared "a baby daughter" (most likely Reina) and trained her in secret before confronting Kazuya. So, in part she's a step sibling of Kazuya and Jin but her last name was Hachijou. Sadly, Heihachi didn't get busy with another random woman during his dementia.
So how then does she have Mishima lightning ??????? Ah fuck it I don't care anymore
@darth6129 At least she isn't a full blooded Mishima
@@darth6129Neither did the writers, apparently
Kazuya has a step-Imouto all along! "I couldn't believe my step-sister devil is this cute!"
@@silenthero2795Sweet home Alabama it is
You'd think Yoshimitsu wouldn't sign up for this knowing Bryan Fury, who was saved by Dr. Bosconovitch and his clan but attacked them instead out of fun. He would vehemently oppose this idea of rehabilitating Heihachi or at the very least, be very cautious of him.
Sealing memory is a failsafe attempt rather than Bryan one.
Ending was bittersweet and made all the buildup and events he experienced throughout ultimately pointless. Why even have him do all the training, trials, self-reflection, and searching just to immediately discard it to go back to "I'm evil again, and will once again seek Kazuya for the upteenth time". Could've literally just started with him waking as evil for all that... character growth just said "fck it"
i guess the logic is that now he has the ultimate mishima technique so if kazuya is still somehow buffed after his fight with jin, Heihachi now has a story reason why he can match the both of them.
The fans could've written a better story for heihachi.
we did in fanfics lol , there´s a lot
Yep, I kept him dead.😊
@@SAR-re1fx "and still, the developers only follows their own path"
Yeah, literally saw a comment that explained his return and Lidia's involvement better
@@RandomZsEdits dont worry i got my teleporter in my basement
*Saved by a random monk*
Okay.
And then got beaten up
😂😂😂😂😂
People need to remember Heihachi was never a good person
The whole Tekken 7 ordeal is giving a why Heihachi has problem with the Devil genes or more specifically with Kazuya and Jin
Heihachi is still the same old evil man
Right, he hasn't been a good person since he imprisoned Jinpachi beneath that temple and left him to starve to death. 😒
@@jamilahrazzaq8780 even in T7
He blows up the building Kazuya on, when Kazuya is focusing on Akuma
It's not implied the building was empty
@@kurozunakabuto9682the building was at least filled with tekken soldiers when he blew it up... and the rest of the city block they were in lmfao
I think the reason ppl are upset, at least for me personally, is that I'm all good with Heihachi being evil and never having been good but it makes the entire story of his return in T8 pointless through and through. They could've straight up made him wake up on demon time, but they made all the events that were posed as character growth all just so he could get a technique he'd never have learned otherwise.
Yes, he has the ultimate Mishima technique now but we can all definitively say him achieving it was one of the biggest asspulls in all of fiction. Why even invest time into the story if its literally gonna be the same thing again?
@@trillatsunset I will be really honest Heihachi coming back was a matter of time (or at least his moveset)
However I was really hoping he came back as a robot
Both as a silly and serious answer
The reason Heihachi is still alive is so so so bad, that I just can't stop laughing.
Bro legit, if you watch how Kazuya dropped him he looks at the lava for a good while, there is no way in hell Heihachi could have been rescued
Tekken storytelling in a nutshell under Harada's direction.
Forreal, they spent an entire game trying to humanize their biggest antagonist in the franchise, just for him to pull a complete 180 and become evil again in the next game. Only this time he's locked behind a paywall alongside his stage (Which is sold separately).
@@JordanFanatic Real. What was even the point of trying to humanize Heihachi via amnesia if they're just going to have him be evil again. What a waste of time.
I would rather have Heihachi just come out of the lava unscathed instead of being saved by a random monk and have amnesia.
@@JordanFanaticHarada's writing went downhill after Tekken 5 his writing went from bad to worse
This is the final nail in the coffin for Tekken's "story". Just when Harada had us all impressed, having the balls to kill off Heihachi in Tekken 7, only for him to bring him back in what was undoubtedly one of the laziest and stupidest manner possible. Remember when he said "Heihachi is completely dead"?
Heihachi didn't progress at a character at all. Kazuya and Jin lost hte devil gene, only for us to find out that there are actually a number of carriers out there who also have the devil gene and Heihachi plans to awaken them.
Looks like this franchise will never move past the Mishimas or have any meaningful progression in its story. What a joke.
I wholeheartedly fucking agree.
LOL Sarada it's just troll about heihachi dead & evry body knows this
@@garciasth217Harada has the intelligence of a toddler.
@@Misaka05050 Sicko
@@sirlimen333 You know who's worse than Harada? The angry mob cabal inside the TK community like everyone on this asinine statement, they need to be ousted once and for all.
Say whatever you want.
Don't ask Harada for shit ever again.
Heihachi is his prodigy, and he will toy with him.
Cool. Never buying a Tekken game again lmaoooo
He won't hire u brodie😂
@@floatytoasty I can't even ask him to get hired if I can't ask him for shit.
I'm a game designer and programer, and even I fear Harada wouldn't ever take shit from me.
@@floatytoastyWho would want to get hired by Harada lmao
The only thing i would want is to let me write the stories(i have actually gotten a few licensed lessons in script writing and story telling,they were part of courses)
Tekkens story has always been batshit ridiculous but fun and this is the first time I feel like it’s just not good. Way too convenient to bring Heihachi back like this.
It honestly would have been better and more digestible for heihachi to literally be like.
YOU THOUGHT LAVA COULD BEAT ME? NO!
He survived the explosion in tekken 5. That's frankly much more impressive than the lava. The heat, impact, and major crash is harder to survive than a small lava bath tbh.
heihachi will never change....
Yes but more ruthless than ever. Want rematch with Kazuya and Jin.
@@gumballdarwin2330well kaz out of the way once again up to jin
Well sometime we need a monster to defeated a monster,we need heihachi to put kazuya back to his place,also if we are the same pov as other people in tekken we would see jin and kazuya are the same since their devil power are threats for this world and heihachi is the only human who can beat these devils a**
@@nguyentridung5223 Lars a close second jin Lee Lars get ready heihcai going to get y'all
@@nicholasnorman4179 just remember before this dude master his ki in current time,bro literally used brute strength and martial art to beat the sh*t out of azazel,jinpachi,jin and kazuya devil form and almost equal akuma the literally demon himself that can put a good fight with asura in asura wrath 💀
Did he just headbutt a damn asteroid
Yes.............yes
And I thought Chris Redfield punching boulders was out of this world 😂
How the hell did Kazuya give this man amnesia.
@@aaroner5324being a Mishima allows you to do impossible feats 😂
at this scene he was supposed to deflect it by his hands but doing a headbutt literally gave him back to his old side or he was just like that ever since then...
Shit like this makes me really despise the fact that the writer for tekken 4 was clearly never hired for another game again. There is genuinly some good ingredients here for a really cool story aspect to tekken but they just waste tf out of its potential.
Well said, it’s infuriating. How can it be THIS bad with so many cool story beats?
That was 20 plus years ago. 4 is an outlier, the story of Tekken has been always like this. I'm ok with it. Also 4 sucked, it's probably with Tekken 1 the worst
@CYB3R2K the way tekken writing "has been" is straight dogshit and should be better. Being 20 years ago is irrelevant, tekken 4 is the best attempt at story in the franchise by a MILE.
Tekken 4 easily had the best story compared to the other games and its aesthetic fit perfectly the lore
@@CYB3R2K stop hating tekken 4 was a underrated pearl the music the stages (especially Hon-Maru) the costumes the select screen and the characters ending all was done good
lmao so stupid, Kazuya literally saw him fall into the lava
You can see the ending in 7 how he takes a while to look away from where he dropped Heihachi
No akuma fights him before he can finish watching heihachi fall😊
@@drew4252 YES, heihachi fell into the magma and kazuya had enough time to do a speech.
@@drew4252 blind wigga. Kazuya SAW Heihachi fall into the lava, heard the splash and made a one liner before Akuma showed up 💀
Well the same ending heiachi did to kazuya both survived but will he beat Jin and kazuya they are more powerful
remember the rule, if an important character "dies" offscreen, he/she doesn't
Good Heihachi was such a cool dude. Not only did the story get worse as a result of this version being destroyed the way it was, but we lost a potential amazing development for the character in possible future installments.
This story is so stupid. They should've just brought him back as a non-canon character like his wife Kazumi. Make him appear in flashbacks in story mode instead to justify bringing him back. Lmao.
God, you're an ignoramous. You looked in the mirror lately?
Tekken without Heihachi will never be the same...
Heihachi is the most attractive character in tekken
@@visualpref Real.
Kazuya fan-boy.
Heihachi could have appeared as some sort of a fighting spirit rather than “somehow he just returned like palpatine” kind of nonsense.
...So no character growth? No making him see the light and actually be a good dude after all of those events? Should have just stayed dead. What a waste
The Tekken Monks are completely wasted as well.
Have u seen his reveal trailer and character trailer? All of his dialogues in both trailers just seem like old evil Heihachi to me. I don't know why you get the idea that he would change.
@@sakdavith6969They could have had evil Heihachi for the gameplay and character interactions, but redeemed Heihachi in the story mode. Kind of like how Devil Jin merges with Jin, forgives and embraces himself, getting angel wings in the process, but in gameplay he's still "haha I'm gonna kill everyone 🤪"
The growth would actually turn Heihachi fans down.
I'm pretty sure the JP guys are expecting him to get back to his old self because it's what we know and love about him. xD
He saved the world from being destroyed…what more do you want?
Something that I suspect is that Heihachi's line of Mishima were still assholes and that Jinpachi was not a good parent to Heihachi but regretted what he did after WW 2 and wanted peace and reformed the Mishima clan and style to become benevolent. but Heihachi wasn't having none of it and took the Zaibatsu for himself, Jinpachi didn't want to take any chances with Heihachi and got looked up in Honmaru as a result to die, which lead to Kazumi to enact her plan to kill Heihachi.
Heihachi prior to regaining his memories is a nice guy and chill and since it's tied to his memories and he knows that was a terrible person, it's clear that Heihachi is a broken man who got even more broken because of his Wife's betrayal. Don't forget that Kazumi was willing to have Kazuya die if she died like most deranged mothers would do to deny their father having custody of their children, not to mention that the Hachijo clan are utter hypocrites.
Tekken is a tale about how bad parenting and a cursed legacy can ruin anyone that don't have that one good parent to help them alongside friends to keep them from breaking bad. Jin the hero because he both had the character, luck and will to break the cycle of Mishima and Hachijo maliciousness, Kayuza his chance but failed, Heihachi had two chances and failed. In the end, they are bad because because of both nature and nurture thus they are irredeemable because of it.
Even with Heihachi being saved from the lava, Kazuya still stopped Heihachi heart before dropping him. I'm guessing that monk had a defibrillator on hand. 🙄
😂😂😂😂
It's still possible to save someone when their heart stops beating, but it has to be quick.
Its basically certain that him being saved is a lie.
Heihachi after gaining back his memories implies he fell in lava,died,went to hell and was resurrected.
Its an incomplete story.
Thats how Tekken works,you need several games to find out crucial details.
Like how we had to wait for this DLC to learn Reinas origin
His heart never stopped, I guess. He was just tired after that punch
@@newhybrid101Reina's origin is anime 101
His heart is pure...
...pure, unadulterated, badass.
OLD MY GOD HE SO GOD DAM COOL
BUT THE STORY...IS SO DUMB
@@13Kr4zYAzN13 BUT HIS REALLY GOD DAM COOL
more like pure unadulterated ego
@@fernandoorozco5968you mean ultra ego
End of Mishima saga? Lot of bullcrap. Because I feel in Tekken 9 it will probably still focused on Mishima family feud again considering Heihachi manage to be back from the dead.
They should have just made heihachi a son like reina
Was still mishima regardless. Reina went full devil gene at the end and nobody can keep up with that besides current heihachi
Honestly my expectation is that jin will fight reina as to end the devil gene, and perhaps kazuya will join him
My only hope is that Tekken 9 will instead focus on Lars and Heihachi instead of Kazuya or Jin. Let him be the one to throw his father into a volcano for once
@@odd-eyes6363 i don't think that this will happen, cus the story focus in the first place was to destroy the devil gene, which WAS heihacho's task before but now jin is trying to, and since reina is the only one left to have the gene.
I think the developers will make the story about jin coming back to fight again as to destroy the gene once and for all, and also if you focus on jin's arm which has the devil gene's mark, you will find that it didn't vanish which means that jin also still has the devil gene, but it needs to be reactivated.
This is my expectation for tekken 9 story continunity, i don't know about you
Heihachi: It feels so great to be back!!
Bison: Right back at you!!!
Palpatine: "So are we back, guys?"
Bro got factory reset cause Kazuya Punch 😂😂😂
exactly LOL
And restored his OS with a headbutt😂
@@Waik94 the old reliable: if a big hit makes you forget your memories, hit yourself again.
Heihachi is so savage that he restored his memories headbutting a meteor 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂heihachi is not bad guy
But only he love fight with son 😂😂
@@marwanyousif7456 love his son like a punchy bag/ shack 🤣
The ending of Tekken 7 had such a huge emotional impact, decades in the making. Tons of fans, many of whom had been there since day one, saw a climactic conclusion to one of the biggest parts of the tekken storyline.
And they ruined it... god damnit
Id be way more interested if after heihachi regained his memories he was still a good guy, and his new quest would be to try and make ammends with his family.
That would have been more interesting, although considering he tossing them off cliffs and into volcanoes and shoots them…I doubt he would have succeeded.
@@victoriamullakandova1594 but that would've made it awesome. Like he knows that no matter what he's already beyond redemption, but in his twilight years he tries to help Kazuya progress as a person and learn that absolute power might not be the end goal he wants. Jin is already on his redemption arc. Turning Heihachi into a zen Buddhist, or even a Taoist martial artist would've been a cool direction. But I guess he's back to being pure evil again.
@@ponsuwan6942 I guess Harada prefers him that way, I guarantee he’ll probably betray Reina in the future given his complete lack of affection for any of his kids or grandkids. His pet bears are the only ones he seems to actually care about.
@@victoriamullakandova1594 Heihachi has an interaction with Jin saying he is useless to him now. He also has an interaction with Reina saying that she IS useful to him. My instincts tell me there will be betrayal. Probably after managing to successfully steal the Devil Gene from her with his new Supermonk powers. I would have loved a Pop-pop Heihachi so much... 💔Jin would certainly forgive him if he reformed, although I'm not if sure Kazuya ever could. Perhaps only with Jun's influence.
As preposterous as this story development is, I believe the most probable reason he's returned is because Reina is not quite as popular as they hoped she would be in terms of a "Heihachi replacement." They need to keep the balance of power shifting between at least three well liked characters, which is far easier to juggle and keep the story interesting, even if it sometimes lacks continuity. Since its possible Kazuya may become an antihero in the next installment and join up with Jin (or at least develop a more neutral relationship), they still need conflict for the story, so they bring back a "villain" that is considerably the most popular. Perhaps also in an attempt to increase Reina's backstory and likability. They may be testing the waters to see what people will prefer and also what will best sell: a redeemed Heihachi or the traditional villain. I still hope for the former someday but find it highly unlikely. I mean, the series is 30 years old. I'm sure it can be a challenge to constantly keep coming up with more ideas to keep both new and old players equally intrigued.
That said: I would actually laugh if Kazuya ended up with his own amnesia redemption arc next... 😉
@@victoriamullakandova1594 Jin no longer hates the Mishimas, Lars and Lee (who also has put his past behind) may act like Lidia and Yoshimitsu in this video albeit Heihachi is known for being deceptive....
It's like an Indian drama serial, where a person died years ago suddenly appears and said that the body burned was not his body but another body with his face put on plastic surgically....hahahaha
"Somehow Heihachi Mishima returned" - Panda
Roger.Jr: "I feel disturbance in the force"
Tekken 8: the rise of skywalker
Such lazy writing, the devs could've actually did something with a reformed/redeemed Heihachi.
They could've just made him non canon and added him for gameplay alone
Facts! I would have even loved an antihero neutral Heihachi, after all the Tekken Monks literally spoke about the importance of balance. He spent time as a pure-hearted man, conquered his inner darkness, and then faces his old memories which could make him balanced. Similar to how Akuma isn't a main antagonist, Heihachi could be a kinder but still brutal warrior seeking a new ultimate style that could surpass both the Devil and Angel. Then, seek out all dem damn kids to pass on said style. That's what I woulda done
It's not like we even needed him to be a villain anymore, isn't the whole point of Reina in Tekken 8 her taking the mantle of series villain? Have Heihachi move on from the world domination and her go "fine, I'll do it myself" and try to achieve the goal he abandoned. I hope they don't make Reina take a backseat to Heihachi
@@trillatsunsetYeah I was hoping Heihachi would become the wise, yet still badass version, like he is still crazy strong, but not as crazy evil. Like a lot of DBZ villains etc he is bad, but joins the good guys for awhile. Maybe he is conflicted because he may have to kill his favorite (apparently) offspring Reina who has the Devil Gene.
OOOOOOOOOOR just keep him “competery DED”.
18:58 WTF IT'S "A Fist For A Fist" FROM TEKKEN 4 !!!!!!!
You right XD
Exactly yeahhhh
FROM A WARMONGER TO A SHAOLIN MONK. NINJA WHAAT!??!?
🤣🤣🤣
AND THEN BACK TO A WARMONGER???
So is Tekken 9 built to be a tag team, Kazuya and Jin v. Heihachi and Reina… sounds like something Harada would do.
Now that would be interesting if kazuya teams up with jin.
Project Tekken Tag 3. What's next, Kazumi back from the dead?
Nah. I would rather Asuka to have a bigger role in the series other than be a foil to Lili.
@@silenthero2795 That's never going to happen.
It sucks because I want Asuka to have some relevance but sadly, I'm gonna have to accept that it's been 5 games since her debut and nothing of importance has happened with her since then and probably never will.
For T9 I see the final being Kazuya vs Heihachi again. But this time both characters will be alot stronger than before &
lol we clearly seen Hehachi body fall into the lava or was Kazyua so high he Hallucinated seeing Hehachi going into the lava 🤦♂️
Just a cliffhanger, no resolution what happens next for Tekken?
Nope 3/10
@@junk_bot_man6412it is a side story and we got archives
@@vikingfromnorth45 3/10 for a side story
S2 story DLC
@@SpardaSon20 still a cliffhanger
If they wanted to bring back Heihachi as a playable character, they should have gone for something else instead of this illogical resurrection arc. I liked that Reina had many of the same moves. Perhaps one of these monks could have carried on the style of Mishima-Karate, then Heihachi could have remained dead and we would have a Heihachi-esqe character to play with.
He could have been a flashback like Kazumi was in Tekken 7
@@SAR-re1fx Yep this too ! Exactly !
well this just ruined tekken 7 plot. but now that kazuya is out for now, they need another bad guy. this feels like a waste of his development.
There’s already another bad guy, or bad girl, and that’s Reina, Heihachi’s daughter.
You say that like Tekken 7's story wasn't already dogshit.
And now he has the ultimate technique - whatever that is
@@Hawkatana it gave a reason for his hate on kazuya and and Jin. And not just evil for the hell of it
@@DanteMishima a punch.
Love the bit where Heihachi heabutts a fuckin meteorite, class TV mate
Anyone else notice that Heihachi has seemingly deaged 5 years or so. His mustache is black
Another sign that things are exactly what they seem.
Majority: that's BS. He should stay dead.
Me: You're right, but I remember someone misses Heihachi ... I wonder ... who
….so you’re telling me that Kazuya has good enough eyesight to snipe a satellite from space but not good enough to see a monk save his dad? Is that what we are led to believe?
Assuming Heihachi being saved isnt a lie by tye monks then yes,its impossible for Tekken 7 and this DLC to co exist.
This is far beyond a "retcon".
But i think its most likely they lied to him based on what Heihachi says in his intros with other characters
I think we can all agree the story stopped being good at 5
Edit: 4 is goated
Yeah. 6 was bs. 7 was boring but had a great conclusion (even tho it got retconed now). And 8 is just mid. Not bad but not great
the story is all the same stuuupid
It peaked at 4
@@SuperFusionAJ93 facts
or should I say, '4' real
Couldn't they just say that he survived the lava like he couldn't be killed by lava it made what heihachi said to jin make sense
Don't worry, everyone. Maybe heihach is thinking that the monk saved him cause he didn't really have that much memories. Maybe he actually obtained the devil gene from the punch he got from kazuya.maybe the mark on his chest will unleash chaos😀
Him being saved seems like a lie based on Heihachis dialogue in the special intros.
Heihachi believes he died
Oh no Heihachi back to being evil as not like I have not seen this before
"You haven't changed at all! Your still evil, and when you're trying to be good, you're even more evil!"
Oh cool this new Heihachi is actually.....annnnndd he's gone. Never mind then. Urgh what a let down.
Pure heihachi with his hair down is drippy asf.. sucks we only had him for a short while.
I genuinely thought Heihachi had turned over a new leaf and was a formidable force for good...but ah well.
Old ways never die I guess.
24:13 DESTRUCTIVE FINISH!
So his hair turn back to normal from hitting a rock?
Nop is because he is back to his evil self
I really have nothing to say, at least it was better than Mortal Kombat DLC
Low bar but okay
@@junk_bot_man6412considering they are both fighting games, it makes sense to compare
@@nsgbranden8343 just saying that KR wasn’t that good
@@junk_bot_man6412 this is very true
LMFAOOOO over exaggerating
Id like to watch this again but with optimal combos
You telling me, he gave himself CTE and gained his memories back reverting back to evil Heihachi 😂😂 I swear this Tekken Lore be wild
It doesn't make any sense. How in God's did he got his old clothes back the one he had worn during his fight with Kazuya?
The way Kazuya was brought back to life by G corporation in T4. Heihachi was punched in the heart that it was stopped by Kazuya, and there's no foreshadowing that a monk coming to his rescue in a volcano while Kazuya was watching Heihachi fall into the lava and didn't see the monk rescue the dead body from going in the lava, and Heihachi came back to life with no details about how his heart is beating again after being stopped within a year after T7. I know this is TMI but the plot twist made no sense when it comes to this game's characters
Story-quality aside, I gotta say I freaking love the music of the final fight. It's a real good remix of his T2-theme with what sounds like his T3-theme sprinkled in. It conveys the feeling of "Hell yeah! Heihachi is back!" and "Oh no! Heihachi is back!" at the same time.
Definitely boosts the feeling that you're playing as the final boss in this segment.
So now that both Jin and Kazuya don't have the Devil Gene, and Heihachi is even stronger while his daughter has awoken her Devil Gene, how in the world are they going to stop them? Jun better have some weird magic up her sleeve.
I think Season 2 DLC will be all about making sense of the nonsense of this DLC
@@newhybrid101 Or making it even MORE nonsense.
at least those two monks wont be coming back from that cliff 😂
Seinryu was still grunting,he is most likely alive.
The other guy is propably gone
It's tekken. Nobody dies. I am sure they survived and will teach the secret Mishima technique either to Kaz or Jin to stop Heihachi. Tekken story can be guessed by a toddler at this point. People knew that jin will become angel against kaz even before T8 came out lol.
@@mikitadouHonestly i thought Jin was gonna use something like the Blood Venguence True form instead of a full angel
I like that Lidia actually held her own against this dude until he fucking obliterated her with that “ultimate technique”
She didnt held her own at all.
Gameplay isnt canon,only the cutscenes are or obligatory gameplay scenes.
But whatever is in players control is non canon cause it depends on how well you play.
They all likely lost in some seconds
@@newhybrid101 why can't she hold her own but lost at the end?
They could have just had heihachi as playable DLC with no story attached. This is just embarrassing
It's Not Embarrassing
Beat thing they could have done is make him playable but have him be in a flashback just like kazumi from 7 dont know why they felt like bringing him back to life
Harada be like: "Don't ask me for Sh*t because I can deliver it without any request"
8:24 I remember in older tekkens that if either Devil Jin, Heihachi or Kazuya hit you with the stone head and then press 1+2 on a timing i forgot, you can actually counter it with another stone head, they can do the same, it can go on anf ok until either one's health bar dies out.
Yes, your thinking of Heihachi's 2nd stonehead throw which was FF1+4. He had it for awhile and if its used against any Male character, if you press/mash 1 you can headbutt him back, but Heihachi can do the same. It was called headbutt carnival.
Edit: Despite it being more of a funny thing, it did actually give Heihachi a legit throw mixup because you don't know if he was going to do FF1+2 stonehead or FF1+4 version. The only indication visually was that one of the throws changed the camera, the other did not. This was made even funnier from T6 onwards where he got the DF2+3 headbutt throw as well, 3 headbutt throws! But that one wasn't cheesable since you could see the hand difference.
Anna had a similar thing with one of her slaps, used against any Female character, they could slap her back. Nerd comment over :P
Should have been the redemption arc post tekken 7 about him actually being a kinda good guy.
Man missed opportunity, was building up perfectly
In terms of story, this is the most stupid thing Bandai Namco has done with the franchise and that's saying a lot
Well, now we're back where we started. The NeverEnding feud between grandfather, Father, and son. The story will never progress
27:57 wait it can be that theme 😳😳
The Tekken 2 intro?
Nah it's tekken 7 story mode finally@@alviedoyuda4354
Tekken 7 right?
Desperate struggle from t7@@alviedoyuda4354
"Desperate struggle" of tekken 7
That Tekken 4 eerie intro being brought back in this so insane.
I thought Heihachi returns as the posthumous playable character that he would appear in the next season 2 storyline about the origin of Reina.
DID YOU KNOW....
That the T800 never died in Terminator 2? He was caught by a monk while lowered into the lava.
- Harada
Heihachi is pretty much Jason Vorhees at this point. You can't kill him.
Dude the ENTIRE Mishima family are Jason Vorhees
@@DiainvcgtsloverExcept Jinpachi, he is the only Mishima who dies 😂
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Well considering how this franchise is choosing to operate now , they are going to do an ass pull move to bring him back like they did with Heihachi in this game and they will do the same with Kazuya too in the future
harada missed a trick there (or several). firstly, heihachi turning good *permanently* would be a nice reverse parallel of kazuya, who turned evil permanently after tekken 1. it would also justify the whole "heihachi mishima is dead" thing (since the old him would technically be dead) and the "end of the mishima saga" as well since good heihachi wouldn't necessarily go after his progeny like the evil one does.
here's an idea that would've worked if they'd stuck with kazuya making a faustian deal with the *actual* devil rather than having the "devil gene": at the moment of death, in another parallel with kazuya, heihachi makes that same bargain to be saved and given the power to beat kazuya, and he also gets the devil powers he's coveted for so long. devil heihachi basically. it'd definitely make his survival more believable if it was literally divine intervention, but since harada made the devils & angel more into creatures than supernatural beings you can't really do that. in any case, tekken's story has always been insane and underwhelming in equal measure, and this is no different sadly
The best part of this story was yoshi getting his ass beat
And he only had 1 round...both Eddie and Lydia got 2...such disrespect
Man, this is the same dude that bit a bullet at point blank, survived multiple bombs exploding in his face, and tanked a goddamn RAGING DEMON from Akuma. Of course he'd be alive. I don't think he would have died even if he HAD hit the lava.
So Reina devil form doesn’t make no sense it’s not adding up
She is actually revealed to be the only remaining member from the "Hachijo Clan" when Heihachi killed all of them but adopted her.
How he adopted her . She has Mishima electrics
@@CmlwhtHarada will explain later that Heihachi's secret evil brother is Reina's father, but he died decades ago of AIDs and everyone forgot about him.
@@darth6129 Reina’s father would be gay?😂
@@Pynappuru Wait, wtf why would Heihachi adopt someone from there??
You're telling me he would throw his own kid off a cliff but adopt a kid with the devil gene?
All I can figure is the distortion and ringing sound as he falls in the volcano indicating that, maybe he died and was reborn in a new body or this story is not literal but Heihachi's personal hell, that he escapes to be reborn.
Because finding an M. Bison clone in an alleyway is more graceful than this.
this is such a nonsensical regression🤦🏽♂️wtf did they do to the story 💀
That story would have work if first Heihachi had learnt from its past, second if Kazuya wouldn't have seen him die and third if he wasn't on Tekken 8 but as a teaser at the end.
Tekken team still can't write for shit. Lmao
Harada is in charge of writing the storyline it's why story is BS not like in T4 were genuine story writers
@@ShaughnTorres the writers were different for T4?
Man the flashbacks at 27:32 was hype
Look i love Heihachi , his legacy will always be undisputed but this , he , Bison and Frieza are nothing but Saturday morning Cartoon villains at this point , its ridiculuous
It's Not Ridiculous
They wasted Akuma in 7 and Jun in 8, couldn’t figure out which side to put Jin on (from hero to war criminal now back to hero) and now what could have been an actual interesting take on Heihachi all to keep the tired Mishima feud going for probably another 4 games.
Harada realized that Reina sucks and had to bring Heihachi back using the first silly story (well, the whole T8 story is silly AF) that comes to his team's mind...
Damn the lava save for a second, they didn't even address his heart stopping after the patricide fist. He was dead as hell already, the lava was a double tap. How... nevermind.
Living long enough to see Tekken go deep in the "dogshit story and cynical cash grab" rabbit hole.
Same, is so sae
That's what happens when you milk the story out too long. You think there would be a time skip by at least T6 or T5.
Tekken is one of the funniest comedy games out there well done Harada
I don't know what is worse,this or the tekken movie live action plot.........perhaps.....I don't know :/
It’s just hitting me now. The average life expectancy in tekken universe must be 150
Behind the mask 🎭 is, i think jenpachi mishima
I knew Heihachi was still alive. A man who takes a dozen exploding JACKs to the face isnt going to be bothered by that love tap Kazuya gave him, or a little bit of lava.
Pretty ignorant comment.
First off Heihachi himself says he died in his special intros,the guy saw Hell and he is glowing red now.
Second its not about what he can logically survive.
Its about narrative importance,the explosion meant nothing cause it was never meant by the writers to kill him,they literally show him alive in the same game.
Tekken 7 though very much meant to kill him.
Also Kazuya>>>Jacks
The Jacks are fodder
It wasnt because of a "love tap" it was because at that point he has already gone through everything and didnt have anymore in him.
In the Tekken 7continuity its undeniable he died.
So no,he wasnt alive.
They just brought him back in a DLC
His ability to survive,like any character,depends on what the writer wants.
Not "oh he survived that so this wont be a problem".
He died because the writers wanted him to and they brought him back because thats what Harada wanted.
They should have just let Heihachi stay dead. Tekken 8 is just turning out to be a bad game.
I agree there will never be any kind of conclusion no peace
To top things off no jun waking up
using story as an aspect to judge how good a tekken game is so silly.
Thats like thinking a pro basketball player sucks because he hasn't thrown a touchdown in his career.
@@kumorizora2507 Terrible analogy
Bad story* aside from that is great 🤷🏽♂️
I love yoshimitsu having lots of air time on this release and being in a group
But Heihachi unintentionally curing his amnesia is so funny to me 😂😂😂