Part 1 - what's great about the Tesla Model Y: ruclips.net/video/v6TR6kcdE4k/видео.html After 16,000 kms & 6 months, learn from an owner what's not so good about Tesla's Model Y. In this episode I detail 10 things like ride quality, noise levels, trim, and more.
Thanks for an honest review. Tesla fans are very toxic so expect some negative comments coming down your way in the next few hours. It is rare to find a Tesla owner who is not a fanboy/fangirl and calls out the shortcomings for what they really are.
Rim rash needs to be designed out. Different tires, wheel covers that cover the lip of the rim or a changed rim design would help solve the problem. Tesla needs to change something to reduce this problem.
Imagine what someone from a distance would be thinking seeing you holding theoven grill/paper 5:21 not knowing what you were really doing LOL. I do enjoy your videos...
You failed to mention probably the most annoying thing about the Y, the auto wipers😂😂 and how erratic and over reactive they are. Latest software update addressed the auto headlight issue, works well but still gets fooled by reflective street signs. One more thing the chime when the traffic lights turn green doesn’t work for left or right turns. When the through light turns green it chimes even when your right hand indicator is on and the right turn light is red. Future software updates hopefully will nail that issue. Otherwise a simply fabulous car👍
Hi Chris, I've driven my M3LR since 2019 and completely agree with every point you have raised. Having said that, still love the car, but think Tesla needs to do better now that there is genuine competition in the market.
Agreed. Have a model y rwd. Ok with lfp battery charging speeds are fast enough for the very limited times I would need it. Also the supercharger network is one very good reason. Would rather working chargers than faster chargers which may not be working Would also argue the efficiency of the Tesla and its drive train is ahead of Hyundai still. Car play and android auto never coming sorry Tesla isn’t giving away data to Apple or google. Never had them before so nothing missed for me. My ideal car would be the outside of the Ioniq 5 with the Tesla minimal inside.
The latest update allows for different functions through long press on the left scroll wheel. Open glove box is one of those options. Personally I find the auto high beam to be really good. Wipers are ok, sometimes they'd turn on when the windscreen was dirty and autopilot was turned on. I clean it more regularly now and use rain x. On road trips this can be more difficult to manage. I test drove an early model Y and appart from the extra room, preferred the model 3 on many factors auch as ride comfort, handling and range. Would be happy to try another EV but it would have to have something as good as AP, OTA updates, safety, no service log book and acceleration 😊.
The update is good but the 2 to 3 second hold on the left steering wheel button isn't the same as a physical open button on the glove compartment. I reckon I can open it faster by tapping the two on screen buttons compared the recent multifunction addition. Will test and report back!
I own a 12/22 model 3. The A/C blows cold air onto my knees and legs even though the schematics on the screen show it blowing towards the sun visor. I complained to Tesla and they took it straight into the workshop and worked on it for 3 hours. Said they couldn’t fix it today and it needed new parts. 6 weeks later, technician came to my house and fitted an entire dash vent assembly. Exactly the same, said it is the design of the vents and it couldn’t be improved. He showed me how the top steering column shroud is flat and curved up to redirect the air up. He said in upcoming models this problem would be fixed. Oh well, I love my car so I have jammed 2 rags in the vent either side of the steering column. Maybe with winter coming on, warm air will be nice on my legs.
Disappointing isn't it? I have the same issue as you and I definitely don't use split air as it compounds the issue. My work around is to point the air direction at the drivers door, that way it doesn't get my legs.
A lot of people in hot climates in US buy a tint for high window. Some of these are more peeves than problems for me, but good to see what matters to people. Performance, handling, range, tech, autopilot would be the main reasons to settle for a Tesla imo, but good feedback for them.
Hi Chris, I think a lot of these criticisms are valid and I hope Tesla makes progress on these. I paid $8k for FSD 3.5 years ago and am still waiting for it. A couple of things you mentioned have improved with the last update. Firstly, you can now select British English for verbal commands. I know we don't really speak British English, but since switching to this, I have found that the car understands me much more frequently than it used to. Secondly, you can now select a function for push of the left scroll wheel. One of the options is the glove box, so you can now have a physical button for the glove box.
I find the new update with British English means that it takes twice as long to open the glovebox compared to pressing and holding the left multi function steering wheel button, or even pressing the onscreen buttons (controls > glove compartment). I'll shoot a software update video and demonstrate.
I'm old enough to remember Musk promising a zero interventions coast to coast US drive on Autopilot by 2017...IN 2017!!! Shows how little he knows, or how easily he lies, take your pick.
The ONLY thing I miss about my old car is Android Auto. Things like messaging access (who uses SMS these days), audible, decent weather and news access just by voice.
@@chrisvanderstock that's a real shame. My wife and I would like to see a voice control button added to the passenger side (either physical or touch screen) as there's things she struggles to do in the car with her vision impairment that we think voice could help with - were the recognition actually useful of course. I think Tesla could overcome most issues I have with the absence of Android Auto/CarPlay if they just worked on a 3rd party app store! All I really want is an audible integration, and some other messaging apps.
Thanks Chris. Agree with some, disagree on others. Economy? Seriously, you skipped that? Glass roof: I thought it was going to be hot, but driving over the top of the country it was fine. Rims: Curb rash incoming. AP is incredible. EAP nope. Charging: it’s fabulous. Noise? A bit loud. Ride? Too hard. Software? Wonderful, especially the new release!!! Supercharging? You didn’t mention that! 🤪 It’s going to be the best selling vehicle in the world for the next few years, and there’s a damn good reason for that - it’s the best all-rounder by far. Summary: Supercharging and AP vetoes anything other than a Tesla for me at this point. I love that we are getting some other options - I just hope people aren’t going to assume they can charge them easily. Thanks for all you do. ❤
Good criticism so far. But msny people get these cars for the performance and handling. Would think firm ride would be part of it. I'd probably prefer the firmer side but good thing they are giving those who want the comfortable family SUV feel what they want.
Thanks for a great pair of reviews, I agree with most of your points, but the only downside that has made me spend more money is the white dashboard reflecting in the door mirrors in summer. I have bought mat black $175 stick-ons to solve this safety issue. With standard Autopilot, my MYRWD doesn't have radar, and I get way too many false braking events. Bring back the radar!
Was that Moone ponds Super charger? Next time your super charging go into the service menu and look at the charging screen. It will give you Volts and Amps. But considering the LFP battery operates at a lower voltage than it could be an issue. I suspect being around 350V at 500A is only 175kW.
Indeed was Moonee Ponds (!), I tried Geelong where it's V3 and didn't go above 160. It's a known issue with them because of the LFP battery. One of the benefits of going with NCA instead.
@@chrisvanderstock Moone Ponds is max 135kW, I can get 170kW on V3 but at low SoC. I will check next time I DC charge at low SoC to see if low Volts and max Amps is the issue
I am not sure how Bluetooth is circa 1990 when it was not introduced into cars until the 2000s. Prior to my Y I had a Kia Niro EV with DB radio which was useless on big road trips because it quickly lost reception. Also, to open the glove box just press the right wheel button on the steering wheel and say ‘open glove box’.
RE BT, sure bit of an exageration. First units were circa 1994, and then 1997 more main stream - primarily for phone call use but some did do audio too. RE glove comparement - no thanks for voice assistant to open it. It's still bad even after this latest update with British English now added, plus takes way longer than having a physical latch on it. I''ll shot a software update video as the new version has the abiity to do long press on the left side steering wheel button, which again, is over complicating something that need not be.
What I tell most people who ask, is that my Model 3 is “A $40K car with a $30K battery fitted”. So don’t expect to find features/finish you would get in a $70K car. I agree with most of the pinch points you make. I fitted a set of aftermarket wheel covers ($200) to replace the aero covers. They cover the alloy rims and look much better than the stock ones. That’s the thing about the 3/Y. They are the “iPhone” of the EV world in that they have lots of aftermarket stuff available to alleviate their shortcomings. I wish Tesla would look at the aftermarket. Things like powered frunks, heads up display, driver’s display, upgraded audio and kick sensors that could be fitted at service centres at the owner’s expense. To me that would be a win/win. Owners get improvements that don’t get broken by software updates and Tesla gets another revenue stream without slowing the production line to include options. EAP is not worth it (IMO).
I can't even book an ioniq 5, i have stopped bothering going to Hyundai website. I have Hyundai Santa fe and love every bit of it except the service is expensive.
Most of the points were on the point, especially about the quality, fit and noise, but keep in mind that the engineering for some of these requested features are cutting edge technology. For Full Self Driving automakers are spending billions of dollars and have hundreds of engineers working around the clock on it. FSD beta is one the best implementations of neural network technology and Tesla are world leaders. So it’s a bit rich to complain you want to have it now in Australia when it does not even exist anywhere else. Especially given we drive on the left side of the road. Same goes for LFP batteries. You get the added benefit of long range, great power, a reduced price and additional safety, but complain that it takes too long to charge. In engineering design, some features are traded off for others. It’s impossible to get it all and easy to cherry pick features as being inferior to other products without considering the implications of what is traded off in its place.
No EV is perfect. I'm not a fanboy or part of the church of Elon but do appreciate what Tesla have done for the industry as a whole. I won't own one purely as they all look the same, just squished or stretched, plus I like at least some buttons for common items. If I fit in the Ioniq 5 it would be my car and I still love it even if I don't fit, being tall my head rubs the roof front and back when seat is adusted to my driving position. So I'm looking at things like BYD Atto 3, upcoming Cupra Tavascan(early 2025), maybe Renault Megane eTech as my next EV. Interesting points though.
A agree with most of your points but I think you position the car wrong. You said these things are missing for the money the car cost. The problem is not the missing features but the money the car cost. This car will cost 1/3 less than today in the future. With that price point the features it have made sense. At the moment you pay for the development of this car and it's groundbreaking technologies under the hood . For Musk it is all about market share and for this the price must come down. You can only produce cheaper cars if you produce lots of them. All these nice cars with loads of features are irrelevant in the future if they made a loss on any sale and you can't sell them for €20000 more than a Tesla.....
You can really see the jump to the side to leave the freeway with EAP and the bit of swerving it did in leaving the freeway. The article is very good and really shows the point that things need to improve, like ride as it is very rough, EAP very poor to dangerous as I still cannot use it when wife is in car as she screams when it jumps around. the noise in Model 3 is not to bad but have little rattles like yours in B pillar area, which they cannot find. Suspect it is the trim moving. We are looking at a sun shade for the roof presently for the next summer. Also to connect in the extra speakers not used, the A pillar and door speakers near side mirrors. Cannot get an upgrade to sound system as not a Tesla supplied part for Model 3 SR+/Rear Wheel drive, also no cut-out for rear Speakers in Parcel shelf. Another poor item is no Foot Well lights as locked in software and no path through Tesla to get them turned on.
No unfortunately. Supposedly you can order it from Tesla but I haven't seen one, however Tesla's product is the board sort, so would rather a retractable version (like a blind that retracts in and out of the housing).
Oh my gosh no! Even the new update with British English means that it takes twice as long as pressing and holding the left multi function steering wheel button, or even pressing the onscreen buttons (controls > glove compartment). I'll shoot a software update video and demonstrate.
@@chrisvanderstock Voice commands are the future. They may need to improve but they are the future. Don't think short term. In the long run voice commands will be as natural as speaking.
We have often heard 'tesla killer', but I think maybe cheap Chinese cars might finally be an alternative soon. It has occured to me that not only do I rarely venture further than Newcastle from Sydney in my car, but when I do it is to Melbourne or Brisbane. These routes are well covered even for non-tesla charging. So the really compelling reason (supercharging) for buying Tesla is becoming weaker. That said, for EVs Tesla are still the best in terms of quality for price at the moment. Also, the non-service schedule - that brings the price down towards the cheaper Chinese competition. I guess the EV market is beginning to heat up. I'm not in the market for a $50 or $60k car. Hey, are we getting later software updates than the Americans?
11 years into the Model S, and its infotainment barely changed. No 3rd party skins, no 3rd party apps. Let alone 3rd party driving aids. For a trillion dollar company...where's all the money going? Semi barely exists, Roadster years over due despite $50K deposits taken, Cybertruck years overdue and it was supposed to be the first electric pickup, now we have choices on some markets already. Still just TWO platforms, S/X and 3/Y. No wagon versions for 3 and S, because buyers might actually WANT THAT. If customers want a feature, it goes straight to the bottom of the list, unless Elon finds it on Twitter in his unlikely ample spare time (meaning, on the can).
Agree on all fronts, but I'm guessing making EVs at scale and building out factories is much harder than we give credit for. Supply chain delays, material shortages, lock downs and pushing innovation have blown out timelines. I don't think we'll see a roadster in the next 5 years and model S and X may not even be sent to RHD markets. What's important is scale and driving costs down to transition to sustainable transport. BYD and Tesla are the only players in this area, other manufacturers will compete in premium and luxury markets.
And Tesla recently removed Model S and X from the AU order page. I agree with your comments, and go on further to say, Tesla often forgets that other markets exist outside of the US. Very annoying experience for most of the world.
@@Spruce_Goose Tesla do OTA opdates all the time, though. That's pretty separate from the developing of factories. If they actually wanted to be the best they can, let alone serve customers, there are MANY opportunities you and I can list, that Tesla will likely pass on before hearing. WTH cares about what customers want, right? They should be happy with the 17" fart screen and all the promises we keep holding on to, even if they expire by 6 years or more (level 5 FSD, still at level 2 in 2023). An app store, wagon boots, that's low hanging fruits. They call themselves a software and car company, right? They have more car factories than car models, and that says more about their factories than models. System integration and drivetrain efficiency are exemplary, but after driving aids, those medals will also be taken from them. By Lucid for starters. How long will Lucid keep their tech to themselves?
@@Cloxxki I agree with you again. It's sad that if the customer wants a specific option/feature or even luxury they'll have to go elsewhere. I'm hoping the CT ànd it's accessories make it to AU, but would take a Rivian any day over it if it came here and could charge off all superchargers. Just curious who do you think could buy Lucids tech ? I would think it would be luxury makers only. Rimac might take a look but they have their own tech too.
Tesla’s biggest failing is in it’s CEO and his adoring fans who are totally incapable of rational broad based analysis of ALL aspects of marketing and sales. It’s a fundamental failure to imagine that updates are a Tesla thing …….OTA maybe, but all manufacturers do updates…and significantly more important - with appearance updates. Hyundai KIA the Chinese etc have been allowed to keep afloat because Tesla has become complacent. ADAS is going backwards in my experience.
The exterior look and the interior minimalistic drive me crazy, not to mention the horrendous seating fabrics. An electric car doesn't have to look so boring. Please learn from Lexus and mercedes abit will go along way. We need more buttons and more sofisticated look please....
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Part 1 - what's great about the Tesla Model Y: ruclips.net/video/v6TR6kcdE4k/видео.html
After 16,000 kms & 6 months, learn from an owner what's not so good about Tesla's Model Y. In this episode I detail 10 things like ride quality, noise levels, trim, and more.
Thanks for an honest review. Tesla fans are very toxic so expect some negative comments coming down your way in the next few hours. It is rare to find a Tesla owner who is not a fanboy/fangirl and calls out the shortcomings for what they really are.
Thanks, I try to remain neutral.
Thank you for your honesty. We're swamped by the blind cultists
Yeah I prefer warts and all reviews. More compelling
Rim rash needs to be designed out. Different tires, wheel covers that cover the lip of the rim or a changed rim design would help solve the problem. Tesla needs to change something to reduce this problem.
Imagine what someone from a distance would be thinking seeing you holding theoven grill/paper 5:21 not knowing what you were really doing LOL. I do enjoy your videos...
Yeah I was conscious of that too, LOL! Filmed at 4:30pm at a quiet football field.
You failed to mention probably the most annoying thing about the Y, the auto wipers😂😂 and how erratic and over reactive they are. Latest software update addressed the auto headlight issue, works well but still gets fooled by reflective street signs. One more thing the chime when the traffic lights turn green doesn’t work for left or right turns. When the through light turns green it chimes even when your right hand indicator is on and the right turn light is red. Future software updates hopefully will nail that issue. Otherwise a simply fabulous car👍
Hi Chris, I've driven my M3LR since 2019 and completely agree with every point you have raised. Having said that, still love the car, but think Tesla needs to do better now that there is genuine competition in the market.
Thanks Gerard, they're improving but need to do better for sure.
@@chrisvanderstock which year is that model y
Great honest review Chris.
As an Ioniq 5 owner I won't argue with your final comment 😉
It is the better car. I recently tested the mid level spec for a week and half, and its still better than my car! :-(
so i own i5 and m3 lol
Great video. As an owner of a MY RWD I agree with all of your comments.
Agreed. Have a model y rwd.
Ok with lfp battery charging speeds are fast enough for the very limited times I would need it. Also the supercharger network is one very good reason. Would rather working chargers than faster chargers which may not be working
Would also argue the efficiency of the Tesla and its drive train is ahead of Hyundai still.
Car play and android auto never coming sorry Tesla isn’t giving away data to Apple or google. Never had them before so nothing missed for me.
My ideal car would be the outside of the Ioniq 5 with the Tesla minimal inside.
The latest update allows for different functions through long press on the left scroll wheel. Open glove box is one of those options.
Personally I find the auto high beam to be really good. Wipers are ok, sometimes they'd turn on when the windscreen was dirty and autopilot was turned on. I clean it more regularly now and use rain x. On road trips this can be more difficult to manage.
I test drove an early model Y and appart from the extra room, preferred the model 3 on many factors auch as ride comfort, handling and range.
Would be happy to try another EV but it would have to have something as good as AP, OTA updates, safety, no service log book and acceleration 😊.
The update is good but the 2 to 3 second hold on the left steering wheel button isn't the same as a physical open button on the glove compartment. I reckon I can open it faster by tapping the two on screen buttons compared the recent multifunction addition. Will test and report back!
I own a 12/22 model 3. The A/C blows cold air onto my knees and legs even though the schematics on the screen show it blowing towards the sun visor. I complained to Tesla and they took it straight into the workshop and worked on it for 3 hours. Said they couldn’t fix it today and it needed new parts. 6 weeks later, technician came to my house and fitted an entire dash vent assembly. Exactly the same, said it is the design of the vents and it couldn’t be improved. He showed me how the top steering column shroud is flat and curved up to redirect the air up.
He said in upcoming models this problem would be fixed. Oh well, I love my car so I have jammed 2 rags in the vent either side of the steering column. Maybe with winter coming on, warm air will be nice on my legs.
Disappointing isn't it? I have the same issue as you and I definitely don't use split air as it compounds the issue. My work around is to point the air direction at the drivers door, that way it doesn't get my legs.
A lot of people in hot climates in US buy a tint for high window. Some of these are more peeves than problems for me, but good to see what matters to people. Performance, handling, range, tech, autopilot would be the main reasons to settle for a Tesla imo, but good feedback for them.
Proximity sensor opening for the boot is an interesting one that it doesn't have
Yeah its a great feature when you've got your hands full. See my Kia EV6 review for more info.
Hi Chris, I think a lot of these criticisms are valid and I hope Tesla makes progress on these. I paid $8k for FSD 3.5 years ago and am still waiting for it. A couple of things you mentioned have improved with the last update. Firstly, you can now select British English for verbal commands. I know we don't really speak British English, but since switching to this, I have found that the car understands me much more frequently than it used to. Secondly, you can now select a function for push of the left scroll wheel. One of the options is the glove box, so you can now have a physical button for the glove box.
I find the new update with British English means that it takes twice as long to open the glovebox compared to pressing and holding the left multi function steering wheel button, or even pressing the onscreen buttons (controls > glove compartment). I'll shoot a software update video and demonstrate.
I'm old enough to remember Musk promising a zero interventions coast to coast US drive on Autopilot by 2017...IN 2017!!!
Shows how little he knows, or how easily he lies, take your pick.
The ONLY thing I miss about my old car is Android Auto.
Things like messaging access (who uses SMS these days), audible, decent weather and news access just by voice.
Latest update with British English hasn't improved voice accuracy for me or my wife. :-(
@@chrisvanderstock that's a real shame. My wife and I would like to see a voice control button added to the passenger side (either physical or touch screen) as there's things she struggles to do in the car with her vision impairment that we think voice could help with - were the recognition actually useful of course.
I think Tesla could overcome most issues I have with the absence of Android Auto/CarPlay if they just worked on a 3rd party app store! All I really want is an audible integration, and some other messaging apps.
Thanks Chris. Agree with some, disagree on others.
Economy? Seriously, you skipped that? Glass roof: I thought it was going to be hot, but driving over the top of the country it was fine. Rims: Curb rash incoming. AP is incredible. EAP nope. Charging: it’s fabulous. Noise? A bit loud. Ride? Too hard. Software? Wonderful, especially the new release!!! Supercharging? You didn’t mention that! 🤪
It’s going to be the best selling vehicle in the world for the next few years, and there’s a damn good reason for that - it’s the best all-rounder by far.
Summary: Supercharging and AP vetoes anything other than a Tesla for me at this point. I love that we are getting some other options - I just hope people aren’t going to assume they can charge them easily.
Thanks for all you do. ❤
Thanks for the comments/suggestions. Be sure to check out part 1 where I cover a lot of what you noted above: ruclips.net/video/v6TR6kcdE4k/видео.html
Good criticism so far. But msny people get these cars for the performance and handling. Would think firm ride would be part of it. I'd probably prefer the firmer side but good thing they are giving those who want the comfortable family SUV feel what they want.
Thanks for a great pair of reviews, I agree with most of your points, but the only downside that has made me spend more money is the white dashboard reflecting in the door mirrors in summer. I have bought mat black $175 stick-ons to solve this safety issue. With standard Autopilot, my MYRWD doesn't have radar, and I get way too many false braking events. Bring back the radar!
Was that Moone ponds Super charger?
Next time your super charging go into the service menu and look at the charging screen. It will give you Volts and Amps. But considering the LFP battery operates at a lower voltage than it could be an issue.
I suspect being around 350V at 500A is only 175kW.
Indeed was Moonee Ponds (!), I tried Geelong where it's V3 and didn't go above 160. It's a known issue with them because of the LFP battery. One of the benefits of going with NCA instead.
@@chrisvanderstock Moone Ponds is max 135kW, I can get 170kW on V3 but at low SoC. I will check next time I DC charge at low SoC to see if low Volts and max Amps is the issue
Thanks for an Honest review
I try!
I am not sure how Bluetooth is circa 1990 when it was not introduced into cars until the 2000s. Prior to my Y I had a Kia Niro EV with DB radio which was useless on big road trips because it quickly lost reception. Also, to open the glove box just press the right wheel button on the steering wheel and say ‘open glove box’.
RE BT, sure bit of an exageration. First units were circa 1994, and then 1997 more main stream - primarily for phone call use but some did do audio too. RE glove comparement - no thanks for voice assistant to open it. It's still bad even after this latest update with British English now added, plus takes way longer than having a physical latch on it. I''ll shot a software update video as the new version has the abiity to do long press on the left side steering wheel button, which again, is over complicating something that need not be.
What I tell most people who ask, is that my Model 3 is “A $40K car with a $30K battery fitted”. So don’t expect to find features/finish you would get in a $70K car. I agree with most of the pinch points you make.
I fitted a set of aftermarket wheel covers ($200) to replace the aero covers. They cover the alloy rims and look much better than the stock ones. That’s the thing about the 3/Y. They are the “iPhone” of the EV world in that they have lots of aftermarket stuff available to alleviate their shortcomings.
I wish Tesla would look at the aftermarket. Things like powered frunks, heads up display, driver’s display, upgraded audio and kick sensors that could be fitted at service centres at the owner’s expense. To me that would be a win/win. Owners get improvements that don’t get broken by software updates and Tesla gets another revenue stream without slowing the production line to include options.
EAP is not worth it (IMO).
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I can't even book an ioniq 5, i have stopped bothering going to Hyundai website. I have Hyundai Santa fe and love every bit of it except the service is expensive.
Weird, last time I looked they had the entry level model available and high end one. Or do you mean, you can't get a test drive?
Most of the points were on the point, especially about the quality, fit and noise, but keep in mind that the engineering for some of these requested features are cutting edge technology. For Full Self Driving automakers are spending billions of dollars and have hundreds of engineers working around the clock on it. FSD beta is one the best implementations of neural network technology and Tesla are world leaders. So it’s a bit rich to complain you want to have it now in Australia when it does not even exist anywhere else. Especially given we drive on the left side of the road. Same goes for LFP batteries. You get the added benefit of long range, great power, a reduced price and additional safety, but complain that it takes too long to charge. In engineering design, some features are traded off for others. It’s impossible to get it all and easy to cherry pick features as being inferior to other products without considering the implications of what is traded off in its place.
No EV is perfect. I'm not a fanboy or part of the church of Elon but do appreciate what Tesla have done for the industry as a whole. I won't own one purely as they all look the same, just squished or stretched, plus I like at least some buttons for common items. If I fit in the Ioniq 5 it would be my car and I still love it even if I don't fit, being tall my head rubs the roof front and back when seat is adusted to my driving position. So I'm looking at things like BYD Atto 3, upcoming Cupra Tavascan(early 2025), maybe Renault Megane eTech as my next EV. Interesting points though.
A agree with most of your points but I think you position the car wrong. You said these things are missing for the money the car cost. The problem is not the missing features but the money the car cost. This car will cost 1/3 less than today in the future. With that price point the features it have made sense. At the moment you pay for the development of this car and it's groundbreaking technologies under the hood .
For Musk it is all about market share and for this the price must come down. You can only produce cheaper cars if you produce lots of them. All these nice cars with loads of features are irrelevant in the future if they made a loss on any sale and you can't sell them for €20000 more than a Tesla.....
You can really see the jump to the side to leave the freeway with EAP and the bit of swerving it did in leaving the freeway. The article is very good and really shows the point that things need to improve, like ride as it is very rough, EAP very poor to dangerous as I still cannot use it when wife is in car as she screams when it jumps around. the noise in Model 3 is not to bad but have little rattles like yours in B pillar area, which they cannot find. Suspect it is the trim moving. We are looking at a sun shade for the roof presently for the next summer. Also to connect in the extra speakers not used, the A pillar and door speakers near side mirrors. Cannot get an upgrade to sound system as not a Tesla supplied part for Model 3 SR+/Rear Wheel drive, also no cut-out for rear Speakers in Parcel shelf. Another poor item is no Foot Well lights as locked in software and no path through Tesla to get them turned on.
I thought the Australian my came with a cargo cover?
No unfortunately. Supposedly you can order it from Tesla but I haven't seen one, however Tesla's product is the board sort, so would rather a retractable version (like a blind that retracts in and out of the housing).
Use voice commands to open glove box and do many other functions.
Oh my gosh no! Even the new update with British English means that it takes twice as long as pressing and holding the left multi function steering wheel button, or even pressing the onscreen buttons (controls > glove compartment). I'll shoot a software update video and demonstrate.
@@chrisvanderstock Voice commands are the future. They may need to improve but they are the future. Don't think short term. In the long run voice commands will be as natural as speaking.
We have often heard 'tesla killer', but I think maybe cheap Chinese cars might finally be an alternative soon. It has occured to me that not only do I rarely venture further than Newcastle from Sydney in my car, but when I do it is to Melbourne or Brisbane. These routes are well covered even for non-tesla charging. So the really compelling reason (supercharging) for buying Tesla is becoming weaker.
That said, for EVs Tesla are still the best in terms of quality for price at the moment. Also, the non-service schedule - that brings the price down towards the cheaper Chinese competition. I guess the EV market is beginning to heat up. I'm not in the market for a $50 or $60k car.
Hey, are we getting later software updates than the Americans?
Who knows!? Supposedly Europe is next, then my guess, China, then UK... and maybe Australia!? My guess - 2 years at least.
I prefer the fanboy version.
Awesome video!
Thanks for an unbais review, brace yourself for the Tesla fan people complaining/hatred.
I had a huge smile on my face watching this video.
I think Tesla has gotten a bit comfortable. Hyundai Ioniq 5 is a much better vehicle.
11 years into the Model S, and its infotainment barely changed. No 3rd party skins, no 3rd party apps. Let alone 3rd party driving aids. For a trillion dollar company...where's all the money going? Semi barely exists, Roadster years over due despite $50K deposits taken, Cybertruck years overdue and it was supposed to be the first electric pickup, now we have choices on some markets already. Still just TWO platforms, S/X and 3/Y. No wagon versions for 3 and S, because buyers might actually WANT THAT. If customers want a feature, it goes straight to the bottom of the list, unless Elon finds it on Twitter in his unlikely ample spare time (meaning, on the can).
Agree on all fronts, but I'm guessing making EVs at scale and building out factories is much harder than we give credit for. Supply chain delays, material shortages, lock downs and pushing innovation have blown out timelines. I don't think we'll see a roadster in the next 5 years and model S and X may not even be sent to RHD markets. What's important is scale and driving costs down to transition to sustainable transport. BYD and Tesla are the only players in this area, other manufacturers will compete in premium and luxury markets.
And Tesla recently removed Model S and X from the AU order page. I agree with your comments, and go on further to say, Tesla often forgets that other markets exist outside of the US. Very annoying experience for most of the world.
@@Spruce_Goose Tesla do OTA opdates all the time, though. That's pretty separate from the developing of factories. If they actually wanted to be the best they can, let alone serve customers, there are MANY opportunities you and I can list, that Tesla will likely pass on before hearing. WTH cares about what customers want, right? They should be happy with the 17" fart screen and all the promises we keep holding on to, even if they expire by 6 years or more (level 5 FSD, still at level 2 in 2023).
An app store, wagon boots, that's low hanging fruits. They call themselves a software and car company, right? They have more car factories than car models, and that says more about their factories than models.
System integration and drivetrain efficiency are exemplary, but after driving aids, those medals will also be taken from them. By Lucid for starters. How long will Lucid keep their tech to themselves?
@@Cloxxki I agree with you again. It's sad that if the customer wants a specific option/feature or even luxury they'll have to go elsewhere. I'm hoping the CT ànd it's accessories make it to AU, but would take a Rivian any day over it if it came here and could charge off all superchargers.
Just curious who do you think could buy Lucids tech ? I would think it would be luxury makers only. Rimac might take a look but they have their own tech too.
Tesla’s biggest failing is in it’s CEO and his adoring fans who are totally incapable of rational broad based analysis of ALL aspects of marketing and sales. It’s a fundamental failure to imagine that updates are a Tesla thing …….OTA maybe, but all manufacturers do updates…and significantly more important - with appearance updates.
Hyundai KIA the Chinese etc have been allowed to keep afloat because Tesla has become complacent.
ADAS is going backwards in my experience.
The exterior look and the interior minimalistic drive me crazy, not to mention the horrendous seating fabrics. An electric car doesn't have to look so boring. Please learn from Lexus and mercedes abit will go along way. We need more buttons and more sofisticated look please....