Proven Method for Bigger Shoulders (EXPLODE Your Bench and Overhead Press!)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июн 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    0:37 Why I'm an Authority
    1:52 3 Biggest Reasons Your Shoulders Aren't Growing
    8:13 Rules for Growing Your Delts
    12:26 My Workout
    20:18 Other Approved Movements

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  • @AlexanderBromley
    @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +22

    BaseStrengthAI is more reliable than a coach, cheaper than an Excel template!👇👇👇
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    • @simpleboy3457
      @simpleboy3457 2 месяца назад

      Never commented on one of your videos after watching around 100 of them BUT I feel I should because the info you put out is just brilliant bud so much so I've lost 60lbs and almost fixed a long term shoulder injury which was holding me back for years.... and great videos and a pleasure to watch someone just do it with no fancy effects, in fact I think that's why Sam Sulik is so popular with his none flashy videos, we just want the info.

  • @MrSHOT321
    @MrSHOT321 Год назад +259

    thank you for justifying my inner bodybuilder

    • @igee1605
      @igee1605 Год назад +6

      Johnny bodybuilder

    • @D_Huckins
      @D_Huckins Год назад +49

      You don’t need justification. Just be a bodybuilder proudly and get big lifts

    • @utgardkraft1412
      @utgardkraft1412 Год назад +26

      Jamie Lewis, a guy historically most interested in strength and maximal work, has changed his philosophy quite a bit and now also talk a lot about bodybuilding.
      My point, I think we all need to cultivate our inner bodybuilder or simply indulge him if he is already there. Does a body good!

    • @buddlos
      @buddlos 3 месяца назад

      It's called enabling.

    • @philosophysique5419
      @philosophysique5419 2 месяца назад

      I think bodybuilders and strength guys can both learn a lot from each other

  • @adammeade2300
    @adammeade2300 9 месяцев назад +13

    Great advice. My "strength training" playlist is quickly becoming just the collected works of Alexander Bromley.

  • @elliotstarr687
    @elliotstarr687 Год назад +148

    Really wanna get a 60kg strict press for reps before the end of the year. Cheers Bromley. Definitely implementing these tips 💪

    • @Jdl223
      @Jdl223 Год назад +15

      You can do it! Try lots of volume, don't be afraid to drop the weight after your sets. Whatever you do for 5 take off 40 lbs or so and knock out a few sets of 10 after your working set(s). Works great. You can also try twice a week if your recovery allows it

    • @Pastor_Sempa
      @Pastor_Sempa Год назад +3

      that should be your warm up weight after 5 years of weight training

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied Год назад +111

      @@Pastor_Sempa lmao you have literally no idea what his circumstances are. Stop talking like there's some absolute standard of strength for every person on earth. Gatekeeping is for the insecure.

    • @davonod8573
      @davonod8573 Год назад

      @@Pastor_Sempa shut up

    • @e.c.9468
      @e.c.9468 Год назад +5

      Yeah buddy, lets goo 🙂same objective but in the incline (and I got it)

  • @nlproductions9215
    @nlproductions9215 Год назад +13

    Thanks man, I'm definitely going to try some of these movements and incorporate them into my next training block. Excellent training advice from a pro! Please keep these videos up!!!

  • @weavingthevaluess
    @weavingthevaluess Год назад +5

    dude i love that you shared the whole lift with us and got footage, awesome content man pls make more

  • @davidfillary
    @davidfillary Год назад +39

    I've been adding side raises as my first assistance movement. This is great as it gives my triceps a chance to rest a bit before being isolated and after working hard on the main movements. So side delts have become my go to focus when I need to rest other stuff within a workout.

  • @athefitz
    @athefitz Год назад +23

    Hi, Bromley. Your content has been getting better and better. I find myself impatiently waiting for your next drop. Thanks for everything you do for us.

  • @MrWazzasupgee
    @MrWazzasupgee Год назад +6

    Started doing seated pin ohp, str8 up felt the gains the next week when doing incline press. 3rd week in and went from 95x12 to 100x14

  • @SizzLorr217
    @SizzLorr217 Год назад +12

    Currently hit a ceiling with strict OHPs and damn this video truly opened my eyes on what I miss out on in terms of delt work :,D

  • @dansmith9724
    @dansmith9724 Год назад +1

    Crammed a stack of your videos of late. Good stuff.👍
    I found the power versions of the oly lifts really hit my delts. I remember concentrating on power clean and push press. It added roundness to my delts and strict pressing strength went through the rough.
    Something I found helpful for shoulder pain when benching was rope FacePulls where I pumped the crap out of them with high reps. Also improved rear delt size increased noticeably.

  • @jamespurchase4035
    @jamespurchase4035 7 месяцев назад +3

    What I found curious was that I was getting shoulder pain when using a seated o'head press machine. And then I switched to o'head barbell press and all was good. Perhaps I was starting too heavy on the machine vs starting fairly light for the bar. Anyway, for this newb, working the shoulders has been a revelation.
    Thanks again for the AB wisdom

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate Год назад +9

    I like BOM's 'oonga boonga' perspective. Sometimes you just gotta go ham on something simple. Machines may be fairly mindless in this regard, I definitely like them for a hypertrophy focus.

  • @mattduran3843
    @mattduran3843 Год назад +12

    Damn, this video is extremely helpful. I have been only doing strict OHP and I have not even thought about to switch it up to seated OHP. Also going to incorporate front raises. Will try this out for about a month, thank you

    • @frankwhite555
      @frankwhite555 Год назад

      Facts. I need to start this as well.

  • @MattFlyFisher
    @MattFlyFisher 6 месяцев назад

    Great info here. Excellent content as usual💯💪🏽

  • @ronvaughn6464
    @ronvaughn6464 Год назад +1

    I've been pressing train wheels and I have seem lots of improvements to my shoulders. I know not everyone has access to train wheels but if you do they are great for growing delts.

  • @DNO_Fitness
    @DNO_Fitness Год назад +14

    Great advice! This is my approach and after 30 years of lifting shoulders are healthy and strong. I was able to set a state record bench in my 30s and approaching a world record of 520 raw at 198lbs in my 40s.

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 9 дней назад

      Wow, that’s damn impressive…and humbling. I just about broke my shoulder patting myself on the back for 315 OHP. Thanks for adjusting my goals! You rock.

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 9 дней назад +1

      Oops, misread…or just assumed you were talking OHP. Still, that’s a kicking bench.

  • @boojon156
    @boojon156 Год назад +2

    Keep pushing 🙏🏾

  • @mynameisforrest
    @mynameisforrest 4 месяца назад

    Been training for about two years now, seated dumbell OHP have become my favorite exercise by far for shoulders

  • @GeohnsWorldWorship
    @GeohnsWorldWorship 3 месяца назад

    Smith machine presses have helped me a lot also…great content !

  • @ertugrulbae46
    @ertugrulbae46 Год назад +1

    For T bar rows...you can use an EZ bar compensate for the mobility thing (wrist).

  • @tonywiggins8560
    @tonywiggins8560 11 месяцев назад

    Great video. Very informative.

  • @grunt9950
    @grunt9950 Год назад +48

    Never prioritized the smaller muscles : shoulders, calves, bi/tris
    But I can tell it now hinges on my big 4 and my overall performances, keeping me from crushing some ceilings
    Been fixing the bi/tri for a few weeks and already feeling the differences, but man do I dislike training shoulders haha

    • @NunoAlexandreMB
      @NunoAlexandreMB Год назад +46

      And funny enough shoulders and triceps are one of the biggest muscles in the upper body

    • @alexwilliams5587
      @alexwilliams5587 Год назад +1

      @@NunoAlexandreMB ^

    • @victorgomez6330
      @victorgomez6330 Год назад +3

      Me neither, I just focus on big 4 like you. After my session I'm worn out and just want to go home, not stay longer to chase the pump in smaller muscles
      But my shoulders and calves are staying behind

    • @RevShifty
      @RevShifty Год назад +1

      It's often those muscles we hate training the most that need it the most. I know that has been true of my own training over the years, and I've most others I've known.

    • @kunxv15
      @kunxv15 11 месяцев назад +5

      bro shoulders ar big muscles, theyre not small

  • @metalrocks999
    @metalrocks999 Год назад +2

    Thank god for you making excellent content.

  • @maxdadax
    @maxdadax Год назад +1

    Thanks! I feel like I need to boost my delts, too

  • @tjcogger1974
    @tjcogger1974 Год назад +18

    This is off topic, but "Superior Deadlift" was fantastic. I've recommend it to a few people who were looking at taking their deadlift training more seriously. Do you have any plans to write something similar for squats or OHP?

    • @Cwillz303
      @Cwillz303 Год назад +1

      Amen to that. Got it with the 50% off bundle deal & I’m excited to hell to try the “reverse shrug” on deadlifts on my next workout. Been in the game a while now & I’ve never heard that cue until now!

    • @strawberryyogurt0
      @strawberryyogurt0 Год назад +3

      @@Cwillz303 … Heard about that ‘reverse6 shrug’ or ‘anti-shrug’ a couple months ago while watching an EliteFTS video.
      Dave Tate Fixes 6 Deadlifts AT ONCE | Train Your Ass Off: ruclips.net/video/EzJFKYn1Xf4/видео.html

    • @strawberryyogurt0
      @strawberryyogurt0 Год назад +3

      @@Cwillz303 … forgot time stamp: 4:30 to 5:10 mark in the EliteFTS video.

  • @aborigine777
    @aborigine777 9 месяцев назад

    I favor lots of bdywt pull-ups and chin-ups with a shoulder-width grip. Best exercises for rear-delts are high reps pull-ups/chin-ups. In my opinion rear delts help bench-pre$$e$. The rear delts take over bench when front delts tire out on flat bench.

  • @mastersironmantarmstrong7148
    @mastersironmantarmstrong7148 Год назад +1

    Good video as usual

  • @manicmandownup
    @manicmandownup Год назад

    Great video, thanks

  • @yushy5816
    @yushy5816 Год назад +1

    fantastic video

  • @jarredj5699
    @jarredj5699 10 месяцев назад

    That’s honestly why i dont have chest and shoulders the same day. I noticed that I prioritize my chest more since it goes first, then i half ass shoulders since its second. But now, i have them on separate days. I can always start fresh with my shoulders and can go all out without feeling the fatigue from doing chest. Im still not 100% sure if this is viable despite doing it for quite a bit now

  • @MartVaarpu-
    @MartVaarpu- 8 месяцев назад

    Thoughts about hang cleans instead of upright rows? I feel nice uperback, traps and forarms..

  • @israel8152
    @israel8152 Год назад

    awesome video 🔥 I've been seeing content from Ben Yanes all over Instagram lol

  • @Quick_and_Dirty
    @Quick_and_Dirty Год назад +1

    Had I had your channel 25 years ago, I would have been so much better off than learning from the early internet and "bro science" in the gym -- learn it here, folks, instead of learning it from the school of hard knocks -- this is the stuff of the gods.

  • @aleksadodic5102
    @aleksadodic5102 Год назад +1

    Watching the video, excited, it all makes sense...and then the first exercise the push press?! Why would you want to do push presses if you're trying to build your shoulders?! Very suboptimal way of overloading the delts. I would never do those (unless I'm strongman and I need to practice the movement).

  • @Nerdybdirty
    @Nerdybdirty 8 месяцев назад +2

    Front raising 135 like it's nothing 😅 strong dude right there!

  • @facundosimonetti5203
    @facundosimonetti5203 Год назад

    almost 3 years into training and i still cant ohp my own bodyweight, i need this video lmao

  • @yubnub3000
    @yubnub3000 Год назад +1

    Yeah I dig seated shoulder presses too! One of my favorite movements. Great video!!

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf Год назад

    Kickass video!!

  • @victorgomez6330
    @victorgomez6330 Год назад

    I called it, seated shoulder presses is the best shoulder builder that has direct carry over to OHP

  • @ANTN96
    @ANTN96 Год назад

    ok, so to see if i understand correctly. you can do front raises/side raises/upright rows/btn presses as a sort of warm up before you go into your heavy ohp work?

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 9 дней назад

    Ooh; pushing, punching, and throwing! Go, delts!

  • @obito1166
    @obito1166 Год назад +4

    Lol random collab with bob and brad but their channels actually pretty good, been watching them for a while

  • @MrWazzasupgee
    @MrWazzasupgee Год назад

    Tldr, a lot of pressing, seated, machine, front raises

  • @Veg-Power
    @Veg-Power 9 месяцев назад

    because I have no access to machines is why I like strict one arm dumbbell OH presses. For the first rep I focus on getting really tight and stable like if I were the machine itself so on all following up and down movements it feels like I just have to press in one direction. I get sore lower back, abdomen and legs after that though lol because they are supporting, bracing and stabilizing so damn much. With this technique I can do 50 kg for 15 reps per dumbbell instead of just 2-3 reps when I just casually press without the stated preperation. That's the thing about bent presses which takes this approach to the extreme. The whole body is acting as a stabilizatin FORTRESS, then we can press and stand up easily after that.

  • @Ayatollah123
    @Ayatollah123 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @eastwoodccj
    @eastwoodccj 11 месяцев назад

    Shots fired on Jay Vincent! 😂

  • @lefonwastaken3393
    @lefonwastaken3393 Год назад +5

    Guess I’ll be implementing front raises now!

    • @victorgomez6330
      @victorgomez6330 Год назад +1

      I never did front raises because I always heard that the front felt already got enough stimulus from pressing bench/OHP
      Now my front delts are nonexistent, they're lagging a lot
      I'll do them too

    • @lefonwastaken3393
      @lefonwastaken3393 Год назад

      @@victorgomez6330 same here. Always felt like my front delts lacked even with all the pressing. Maybe it comes down to your genetics? Idk. But yeah, I’ve started doing them

  • @jackedsouls
    @jackedsouls Год назад +2

    Johnny Bookworm getting called out. 💪

  • @mitasuomipolttaatanaan842
    @mitasuomipolttaatanaan842 Год назад +2

    I quit all over head press moves and do just bench and my front delts have grown more than ever. Were all different and for me this works and i can bench more frequently with well recovered shoulders now.

  • @thedisgust
    @thedisgust Год назад +1

    what about upright rows with dumbells?

  • @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
    @a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Год назад +1

    I seen a video wherein Asa Akira put one of them C2 massagers to excellent use. It was pretty good, ngl

  • @dannyb9209
    @dannyb9209 Год назад +7

    Love overhead pressing.. My favourite lift but I absolutely suck at it 😂
    Upto 87.5kg for a single... Chasing that 100kg ohp but the lift seems to build so slowly.. I'll try this workout and your tips.. Thanks

    • @e.c.9468
      @e.c.9468 Год назад +3

      The incline may be a good solution, with a variety of accessories as Alex said

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 Год назад

      Did you notice any relative size gain to your shoulders while increasing the strict ohp

    • @dannyb9209
      @dannyb9209 Год назад +2

      @@DOCFIT_09 my shoulders are definitely bigger , but the lift really doesn't want to go up..maybe if I actually trained that lift and specialized at it instead of trying to be that jack of all trades I could get it to where it goes faster... It's been 6 months now and I attempted a 90kg the other day and narrowly missed out on lockout...but after 6 months training to not land a PB was very demoralizing

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 Год назад +1

      @@dannyb9209 really man..i 100% agree that the lift is so so hard to progress but i think some minor progression of 5 pounds also makes a difference on your upper body on this lift!

    • @enderzebak2863
      @enderzebak2863 8 месяцев назад +3

      dude u acting like 87.5 strick press is average or something

  • @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002
    @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002 Год назад +9

    You know, when you say do the side delt raises before pressing, and the fly's before benching I have to wonder if they are fatiguing enough to actually interfere with higher rep sets.
    I do rows before benching, and it absolutely does not interfere with my benching. I do leg curls before squats, and I think it actually helps. Sometimes I warm up stiff legged deadlifts in between sets of front squats, and that seems to add too, not take away.
    I would wonder if a model could be put together that could show to what extent (if any) interference is occuring.
    Because as I see it now if whatever you do before isn't as taxing as a regular warm up then it might as well be looked at as a warm up. Or if it is significantly disruptive maybe you can expect some post activation potentiation.
    It might even have to do with the degree of surplus you are in because if you are flooded with calories you might have the same energy available for your next exercise as you did for the first.
    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    • @mariushager9983
      @mariushager9983 Год назад +1

      the flys before bench thing always confuses me as well. might try it out though. but your lateral delts recover pretty easily. shouldnt be an issue

    • @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002
      @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002 Год назад +1

      @@mariushager9983 especially during a front delt dominant exercise.

    • @Biggmofo
      @Biggmofo Год назад +3

      Lmao your name is hilarious.
      But my two cents...
      Just do whatever works for you. If you warm up with isolation, light rotation, pressure points (20 sec on pec minor f.e.) to relieve tightness or antagonistic muscle stimulation and you feel it's giving you good results keep on doing it. Priming a muscle for heavier work usually works great.

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool Год назад

      Your examples aren't good because pulling muscles aren't prime movers for bench press, or hamstrings for squats. But as others have said, just try stuff and see what happens.

    • @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002
      @leinekenugelvondoofenfocke1002 Год назад +3

      @@gracefool right.... They are critically important stabilizers that are highly active in the bench. People think that means it will interfere. In maximal work it surely does, but at the lower thresholds it isn't.

  • @RichL4899
    @RichL4899 Год назад

    Starting heavy with compound movements and moving to higher rep isolation work after is the best advice too. Ive seen too many people do tricep extensions and shoulders before benchpress it makes no sense but a lot of people don’t understand

    • @lukekenyon8662
      @lukekenyon8662 Год назад +3

      I would have generally agreed with you a while ago as a gradual pyramid down in intensity through the session makes the most sense. In terms of bodybuilding I know that Mike Isratel and a few natty guys like GVS and basement bodybuilding recommend prioritising lacking body parts at the start of a session which does make sense to me. If I need my arms to grow I don't want to be gassed after a session of compounds and not have full energy to push what needs the most work. So for example I started out on a minimalist routine years ago and generally grew alot on my torso but my arms were heavily lacking. Recently I've run a upper lower split with a chest and back primary focus to start on upper1 and arm/shoulder isolation to finish. Then on upper 2 I Will start the session with a 5-10 rep range barbell curl/5-10 range tricep pushdown superset, then move onto the compounds and again finish off with some more high rep isolation for arms but with different variations. I've made huge strength and size gains since changing it up to this as I never realised how far back my arms were keeping me from progressing some lifts. I think If you are going to use an isolation to start it is better to use a variation you can push for a higher weight with a low to moderate rep range. This is to ensure you can get a decent mix of all rep ranges for the best growth possible. What I agree wouldn't make sense from my experience is starting a session with some high rep "pump" isolation. I still belive that is best left after the higher weight/lower rep work is out the way. If you ARE going to add an isolation to the start of a session it may aswel be in an intensity/rep range you wouldn't otherwise be able to do as effectively post compounds.

  • @Ruudwardt
    @Ruudwardt 11 месяцев назад

    Started doing ohp just recently. Relative to my other feats the ohp is quite pathetic.
    It turns out that heavy weighted tips on rings and ohp in same workout lead to overuse markers in my shoulder.

  • @AndJusTIceForRob
    @AndJusTIceForRob Год назад

    I was wondering if you could clarify something. Around 8:00, you mentioned that we should start base phase workouts with lighter pump work and that starting with heavy lifts could in fact be detrimental. However, around 11:07, you appear to recommend the exact opposite. Can you help us understand the difference between these two recommendations?

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +2

      Yeah, I can see how that seems contradictory. The first part is just a reminder to set aside 'performance' as the absolute priority which is really hard for strength athletes to do. Hypertrophy focused workouts require a ton of reps and a ton of fatigue and that might entail restructuring exercises to optimize fatigue over load and it might entail dropping the weight to unimpressive levels in order to thoroughly exhaust yourself.
      The second part still stands as a very broad structure for whatever muscle takes priority that day, but it isn't set in stone.
      Example:
      I'm doing triceps 2x per week because they are a weak point for me, one day they are done before pecs, the other day they are done before delts. So I'm benching and overhead pressing after some 12-15 sets of tricep work, which is humbling since my working weight is below 50% on most sets. Pressing the most weight is not my priority; bringing up my weak points is.
      Now, with my tricep work I'm still starting out with a heavier variation like JM Presses or Dips; I'm opting to take most of my sets very close to failure and torching my triceps on a finesse movement would limit the load I could handle on the big movements. I feel like this is making the best use of each type of movement. Now, would it make a really big difference if I swapped the order? If I'm working hard and progressing workout to workout.... probably not.
      I wasn't really clear, but when I recommend 'pre-fatigue' with compound movements, like doing flys before benching, I'm not talking about 4-5 sets to failure. More of a warmup that drives blood into the joints, sneaks in some productive volume and won't impact performance too much after you've given some time to acclimate to it.

  • @mariushager9983
    @mariushager9983 Год назад +1

    saw seated shoulder presses on a video of alphadestiny. started doing them and absolutely love them

  • @johnharbour4936
    @johnharbour4936 Год назад +1

    Bob and Brad...the two most famous....physical therapist...on the Internet. That intro is gold son! Been watching them for awhile now!

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool Год назад +1

      Bob and Brad may sell a good massage gun but a lot of their advice is terrible, especially for people who train strength. They're of the ass-covering physio school that believes in bad exercises rather than training to increase mobility and turn them into good exercises.

  • @Major.Tom.1973
    @Major.Tom.1973 4 месяца назад

    "strength athlete" I like that !

  • @RawFitChris
    @RawFitChris Год назад +2

    I notice your range of motion on all exercises shown is quite shallow and limited. Just wondering if there's a reason for this? Are you going to full contraction of the intended muscle- that's the goal is it not? I've been training consistently for almost 45 years. I love your information and experienced tutoring. Compared to all others who give advice here on YT yours are the most serious and practical. Thanks.

  • @IsaacMorgan98
    @IsaacMorgan98 Год назад +1

    I got 1 rule to simplify things even more. Do way more heavy overhead work. Done

  • @jasondavids3895
    @jasondavids3895 Год назад +6

    Hi Bromley, just wondered your thoughts on calisthetics for helping to build the shoulders? Primarily things like the elevated pike press up or the wall supported handstand press up used after a main barbell movement.

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +14

      Problem with calisthenics is that they require a minimum amount of strength before you can use them effectively, and shoulder variations require a lot of strength. I don't have any reason to believe that calisthenic variations work better than standard gym equipment, and the gym equipment can be scaled and progressed much, much more easily. If you like doing calisthenics, great; any form of resistance training will grow muscle and strength. But they don't have any special feature that will favor growth beyond any other exercise you might do.

    • @jasondavids3895
      @jasondavids3895 Год назад +3

      @@AlexanderBromley thanks appericate the reply :)

    • @ajithsidhu7183
      @ajithsidhu7183 Год назад

      @@AlexanderBromley hi bormly for your advice my shoulders hurt alots front delts ,what can I do for.this
      How can I build some with weighted bodyweight excrises and how to get big for long limb lifters

  • @jimb4366
    @jimb4366 Год назад +1

    Hey Alex, I’ve never been able to do front raises because of anterior left shoulder pain , close to the ac joint but not actually the ac it’s deeper than that, it also stops me from benching too, so you think getting stronger at front raises could help this issue?

    • @etrephesm
      @etrephesm Месяц назад

      Try external and internal rotation excersises for shoulder with cables or bands. You should hold the handle at 90 degrees, upper arm to your side. use very lightweight. youll have to look it up for proper form

  • @saltypatriot1768
    @saltypatriot1768 Год назад +2

    I've always done my big lifts first, then my accessory work after so I would have more energy, but I will say this here lately I found it is best to do a little accessory work first... not all of it.. but I have really found it seems to grease everything, I just do better and most of all it is way easier for me to lock my back and keep good form on deadlifts or squat

  • @PauloBerni699
    @PauloBerni699 Год назад

    Sound advice.

  • @TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor
    @TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor Год назад +1

    Subbed! Video idea: How to periodize a year’s training for non-pros who seek advanced strength, conditioning and GPP.

  • @user-hf7sb9ot3d
    @user-hf7sb9ot3d 11 месяцев назад

    lol, I've also never finished worse than 3rd at any national events (never competed, but I'm not wrong). All jokes aside, I get what is meant by saying that and appreciate the credibility and wisdom.

  • @GiggleAndShit
    @GiggleAndShit 3 месяца назад

    -Strict Barbell OHP 4x5 (90% max 2 reps top set)
    -seated DB OHP 8x3
    -dip 10x3
    -single arm cable lateral raise 12x3
    -face pull 10x3
    What do you think?

  • @noalane3626
    @noalane3626 Год назад +1

    Hey Bromley what do you think about Matt wenning saying not to do military presses? Specifically not to do em that much but to mostly use iso movements for the delts…thanks

    • @patrickjulius7352
      @patrickjulius7352 Год назад

      there's a reason bromley regularly deals with shoulder pain and wenning never does.

    • @RevShifty
      @RevShifty Год назад +1

      ​@@patrickjulius7352But there's also a vast difference in their goals and competitions. Wenning is a powerlifter, so only using overhead work as an occasional accessory makes sense.
      Bromley is a competitive strongman, meaning without overhead work he stops being able to compete entirely. Or even call himself a strongman, in certain circles.
      People need to remember where the context of the advice they get comes from. They could both be correct, even if they give with wildly different answers to the same question.

    • @patrickjulius7352
      @patrickjulius7352 Год назад

      @@RevShifty Wenning trains competitive strongmen, one of whom won his division and broke a record in the leg press despite not regularly training military press week to week. says training it often is damaging and he can get him competitive without wearing out the joints.

  • @Benedict_Cypress_II
    @Benedict_Cypress_II Год назад +3

    at the end of the video where you're talking about triceps training you mention that you do 3-4 exercises per session, and then you added that you do a "minimum of five sets". Is that total set number for triceps that day, across all triceps exercises, or is it 5 sets per exercise (so 15-20 sets total)?

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +8

      5 per exercise. That's because arms are a weak point for me and most of my sets are shy of failure.

    • @Benedict_Cypress_II
      @Benedict_Cypress_II Год назад +1

      @@AlexanderBromley thank you!

  • @dlear85
    @dlear85 11 месяцев назад

    Only Neen lifting again for 8 weeks but already kinda stuck at a whopping 37.5kg for 8reps. Hopefully I can work past it 🤣

  • @EyeDriveATruck
    @EyeDriveATruck 10 месяцев назад

    Aren’t biceps being worked with upright rows? If back and biceps day is right after chest, shoulders, and triceps day, won’t the back and biceps suffer from the biceps being fatigued the day before?

  • @DE-GEN-ART
    @DE-GEN-ART Год назад

    how long did it take you to two plates?

  • @fyagent1337
    @fyagent1337 Год назад

    Wow, you do a ton of volume! Is all of that really beneficial? I find my muscles and nervous system fatigue pretty quickly, and it even builds up to where I have no energy ever until I take a week or two off. I've found 2-3 compounds and 3-5 isolation movements to be my sweet spot, but you've got me questioning my methods.

  • @NopeNotHere.
    @NopeNotHere. Год назад +1

    If you could only add in one movement to really push yourself with on shoulders / overhead strength, what would it be?

    • @drip369
      @drip369 Год назад +1

      Pin presses (regarding the strict press). If you wanna train your push presses, thrusters are a great awareness builder

  • @mattmilstead3733
    @mattmilstead3733 Год назад +3

    Good info since a lot of overhead events are my worst ones lol

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro Год назад +18

    I've tried to be stubborn and do the Rippetoe thing with overhead press, and I plateaued after four weight jumps. Couldn't add 2.5kg for very long, and that's the smallest weight jump I can do at my gym, sadly. Switched to dumbbells and 10+ reps, and shoulders exploded. Checked my OHP again, and although my core balance is absolute crap and nearly gets me killed, the sets of 5 starts to move up again. My shoulders definitely prefer the bodybuilding style, even if that high rep burn is utterly disgusting.

    • @shrexyboi1850
      @shrexyboi1850 Год назад

      My arnold press is going up but not my Ohp

  • @hypertrophydisciple
    @hypertrophydisciple Год назад +1

    When he said my best lifts include... I knew I was boutta get mogged

  • @philipph.3876
    @philipph.3876 Год назад +4

    people wondering why their delts stay small, well at some point OHP wont cut it. train your side delts and rear delts. your physique and bench press will thank u later.

  • @jfried6754
    @jfried6754 Год назад +1

    I am considering doing bench just once a week, no accessories and focusing on OHP for 3 months and seeing how big my OHP goes and how much my bench suffers, if at all.

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 Год назад +1

      Hey how is it going

    • @jfried6754
      @jfried6754 Год назад

      @@DOCFIT_09 I did 2 months of it. In kilos - my OHP went from 85 to 95kg. My bench stayed at 120 but my shoulders recovered better doing OHP than bench.

    • @DOCFIT_09
      @DOCFIT_09 Год назад

      @@jfried6754 10 kg increase in ohp in 2 months is crazy....did you notice any shoulder gains with it? And what about the calories during this time? Bulking or just maintaining?

    • @jfried6754
      @jfried6754 Год назад +1

      @@DOCFIT_09 sorry I am really bad at counting calories. I track protein and kind of carbs but have only a rough idea of my calorie intake. I was targeting 3200 calories throughout which is about maintenance but as I put 1kg on over the time I would have been a slight surplus. My shoulders definitely were bigger and more 'capped' looking. I did behind the neck work two days a week during this time period and I think that was the secret - the BTN work helped me get very balanced shoulders.

  • @cuckoldingstrengthandfitne9473
    @cuckoldingstrengthandfitne9473 Год назад +1

    Sight injecting my gear in them is my go to move

  • @CCSABCD
    @CCSABCD Год назад +1

    To grow my delts i have to use a massage gun, got it

  • @marahenao6417
    @marahenao6417 Год назад

    I tried that shoulder barbell move and i cld rarely do the bar LOL

  • @Qylzzi
    @Qylzzi 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have no idea how it happened but I can bench 80kg for 1 and military press 75 for 5. I always do bench press first (PPL twice a week). I also do chest flyes and lateral raises after those movements.

    • @jeremyc1034
      @jeremyc1034 8 дней назад

      can you tell me what your numbers are now? those numbers seem crazy

    • @Qylzzi
      @Qylzzi 8 дней назад

      @@jeremyc1034 Bench 100kgx3 last time I tried. Haven't done overhead pressing for a long time. It has been a learning experience.

  • @basssince6th114
    @basssince6th114 Год назад +1

    How can you tell if shoulders are the weak link in your bench?

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +1

      Compare your strict press to your bench. If you can strict press 75% of your bench, your ohp is damn strong relative to your bench (I stay around 70%) while 60% and under means they should be prioritized.

  • @therazorscooterkings
    @therazorscooterkings Год назад

    Is there a good shoulder program that you recommend?

  • @mikefoster732
    @mikefoster732 Год назад +1

    I’m 62 and just can’t seem to handle the volumes that you have here. What would you recommend for the older lifter here?

    • @Doxsein
      @Doxsein 11 месяцев назад

      Simply dial the volume back until ur work capacity improves, at which point u can introduce +1 sets on some or all of the lifts and then reassess from there

    • @joshuablair252
      @joshuablair252 10 месяцев назад

      Creatine. It'll double your workload and it's healthy.

  • @johnlawe4535
    @johnlawe4535 Год назад +1

    So your pulling work happens on leg day? Or do you train push pull legs?

    • @austindeshazo1428
      @austindeshazo1428 Год назад

      Curious about this too

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +6

      Right now, I have a separate back day scheduled. I'm doing Push - Legs - Pull (rowing) 2x per week for a 6-ish day split (I'll take rest days as needed so it doesn't fall cleanly in a week).
      I alternate OH and Bench along with Squat and Deadlift, so each main lift gets hit once every 7-9 days while isolation movements for arms/legs/back get hit twice in that time.
      I change my splits quite a bit, depending on what I think is a priority. The only real value in any one particular split is how it allows you to focus on your biggest priorities; aside from that, they all work well.

  • @BossFinale
    @BossFinale 4 месяца назад

    I want boulder shoulder.

  • @pretty_flaco
    @pretty_flaco Год назад +4

    damn bro(mley)… your bragging is almost on par with wenning and him constantly reminding people about his 1197.6 lbs equipped and 865 lbs raw squat world records 😂

    • @AlexanderBromley
      @AlexanderBromley  Год назад +9

      Lol trust me, I hear it. Talking about your own numbers is cringey but a certain amount of self promotion is necessary. I'm still working on finding the right intersection of humility and self-fellating.
      I've set a timer; you won't hear about my lifts again for another 9 videos.

    • @Adam-gn5kh
      @Adam-gn5kh 3 месяца назад

      Take a shot every time Matt mentions he has a masters degree and you won't survive the video.

  • @jnananinja7436
    @jnananinja7436 Год назад

    I always liked push pressing more than strict overheads, they feel more natural and functional and they still kill the shoulders. The CrossFit squat-press is pretty good exercise too.

  • @igee1605
    @igee1605 Год назад

    FULL

  • @itamaravraham4068
    @itamaravraham4068 Год назад

    Why doing so much exercise and volume? Isn't it causes you too much damage and raising cortisol very high and thus hurts recovery, getting stronger and bigger effectively?

  • @michelrood2966
    @michelrood2966 Год назад +7

    High reps for delts is where its at period. I am a Bodybuilder and train them once a week but intens. My delts are truly huge. I do alternate to lower reps , heavier weight when i feel its time. But my base is 20 ,25,even 30 reps. Fast twitch fibers. I always start with rear delts. TUT

    • @tylergooden2183
      @tylergooden2183 9 месяцев назад

      3 minutes each, light weight enough that you may need a paid halfway through, all four shoulder angles, steady but quick pace.

  • @Ouragland
    @Ouragland Год назад

    rithm

  • @andrewwehn6131
    @andrewwehn6131 8 месяцев назад

    your entire workout seemed prejudiced to the front delts. Makes sense from a pressing standpoint but you made it sound like you want to grow the whole delta so where were lateral raises in it?

  • @ProphetFear
    @ProphetFear Год назад +3

    They won't grow because aren't doing high tension exercises with a lot of stability. I have a plethora of lifts I do that give capped delts.

  • @JAMIE_ATKINS
    @JAMIE_ATKINS Год назад

    Lol...I love Bob and Brad!

  • @jb4326
    @jb4326 9 месяцев назад

    Me lift barbell overhead makes me happy 🏋️🦍