I'm watching this 2 days after Janja won her second Olympic Gold Medal. It is hard to see anyone taking her GOAT crown any time soon, but unlike many sports, I think most of us would cheer that climber along just as much. The Climbing Community is special that way. BTW, I just became the 100th Subscriber. Is there a prize for that?
@@jussyuchi5076 No he didn't. I realize he tends to overpronounce certain names a little bit in a fear to get it wrong, and it sounds differently when you just casually say those names in real life, but he didn't 'butcher' it.
I hate how (probably people who never were in sport claim that Ai is being 'bullied' because she sometimes can't reach boulder but its not she is 10inches shorter-and have many many things helping her because of statue. And ofc Janja is the villain for many because she is taller and stronger. I am Slovenian, love Ai s style, I am happy also when she wins but its not the case she is victim (I have feeling in 2020s vistim mentality is must be, and they projecting it thru Ai). But W girl, perfect for villain in this sport for many...I think she at 29 if only stays motivated can win Olympic medal, very possibly gold-we will see.
She won 🥇 today so making the case. Im Slovenian and she is so humble-probably she is very compettative inside but still humble-she cried after second O gold.
This is some JxmyHighroller shit and I'm here for it! :D Edit: Okay, feedback. 1. There were some inaccuracies, like calling Janja the "reigning Olympic gold medalist for Lead and Boulder combined". What's that supposed to mean? The format of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics was "Combined", comprised of Boulder, Lead *and* Speed. The format used in the 2024 Paris Olympics is called "Boulder & Lead". 2. Next, the IFSC World Championships take place every other year, not every year (you called them "a yearly standalone event"). 3. Inconsistent name order for Asian names. I'd say choose one and stick with it. 4. In Janja's medal breakdown, you could have separated medals by discipline. 5. It's clear you're taking heavy inspiration from JxmyHighroller (even down to the music), so it would've been nice to see some more care put into the stats and maybe to see some graphs, timelines etc. 6. Lastly, when posing the question whether there's "some new climber", we see footage of Franziska Sterrer and Ilaria Scolaris, both of them not very new to the sport. Erin McNeice or Zélia Avezou would've been more fitting, and maybe others. All in all, the video (and the channel, for that matter) do come across as very reliant on AI (channel logo is obviously AI generated, for example). Whether or not you used AI only you know, but it's definitely how much of it "feels".
Kinda strange, thought there would be more to it - like this person doesn't really know about climbing and just looked up Wikipedia or something. FWIW, In the soft rubber climbing shoe era there have been 3 males who moved the grades up over and over again - first the Gullich era, then the Sharma era, then the Ondra. It would be unfair not to give the nod to Ondra given not only his endless list of hard routes, ridiculously hard on-sites, boulders etc. And Silence is Still the hardest climb in the world with its rating confirmed - yet still unrepeated. Plus he killed in sport climbing when he actually showed up to do it for years. Is Janja even a discussion?
When Janja competes, she almost always wins. If you look at the 26 gold medals that the other climbers in the Olympics have, a lot of them came in events that Janja didn't compete in. For example, I think that 9 out of 10 of Natalia Grossman's bouldering golds came when Janja was taking time off or training for the Olympics (2021). Same for Brooke's gold in Hachioji last year (Janja injured). And Miho Nonaka won a bunch of her bouldering golds in 2018 when Janja skipped most of the bouldering season to complete high school. In recent years, only Ai Mori in lead has been able to go head to head with Janja and win a decent % of the time.
I remember when Ashima Shiraishi was winning in Youth comps and everyone was predicting, that she will dominate women climbing events. Everyone was eager to see her winning in IFSC comps but when she reach that age she didn't. So please, PLEASE stop predicting who will be a future star, let this young athletes develop at their own pace. Some may sacrifice their whole lives to the climbing, others may choose different paths in life.
While i do agree that Japan is the strongest Climbing Nation out there i would say that second Place is not as clear cut. If we look at the IFSC Team Rankings for Females (like you did in this video) in the Year 2024 the Top 5 for Boulder are: France, Slovenia, Japan, USA and Germany and for Lead it's: Japan, Slovenia, Austria, France and Korea. If we go back to 2023 we have for Boulder: USA, Japan, France, Slovenia and Germany. For lead it's: Slovenia, Japan, France, Korea, Austria (and USA on 6) It's true that the USA has a bigger talent pool than most other Nations but there a lot of Countries out there that come farther with less. Overall, at least of female comp climbing, i would argue that France is the second strongest.
Also it is awesome the ampunt of feelings these girls show, share (same feeling as men go thru-they just show them ☺️) also Brooke and Janja are good friends in real life. Rabeatau went to Slovenia in march to train together since Janja was qualified for Olympics and she wasnt-this is why Brooke was showing happy emotions even tho Janja "took" her gold medal..
Watched all bouldering in Innsbruck WC and its just a fact of life, Janja is levels better (didn't prove it at Olympics-but was at 85,90% at best-still won gold relatively easily
strongest Climbing nations: Japan and USA? What about Austria, South Korea, France and Italia? And Slovenia had very good climbers before Janja and has still a very strong team behind her.
Adam is for my money the greatest all around climber of all time if you had to choose one, although I would say it’s not a great way to look at climbing, as there are so many different disciplines and achievements that don’t need to be compared
Records are what matters impact on the sport way behind in importance And for records you have Wayne Gretzky on top of all others. Can Janja catch him YES she can but hasnt yet .Gretzky's 163 assists in 86 would be like an MLB player batting 600 in a season Wayne has 61 NHL records Jordan has less than 20 NBA records
no where in the video did you mention you were only going to talk about the women in comp climbing, but that's exactly what you did. great video but you've got to set the stage properly
Something you could have pointed out is that there is a significant chance for lead and bouldering to be separate disciplines in the next Olympics, which would mean the World Championship would drop the combined format too. And that means Janja will have a very big challenge, she is unbeatable in combined but if she tries to be the best in both bouldering and lead she'll have to face boulder and lead specialists who focus fully on their speciality. Ai Mori is already around the same level as Janja on lead, but can Janja win when she has to care about bouldering while Ai might just drop bouldering entirely ? From a spectator's standpoint it's hard to deny that following the men's competitions is more entertaining as it's more volatile without a heavy favorite dominating (unless it's a lead comp with Ai and Janja). Greatness is appreciated of course but I'm not gonna lie, women's bouldering was as it's best from a spectator's standpoint when Janja was hurt and every women tried to take the throne, with Nathalie, Brooke, Miho and Orianne winning a world cup each. But now women's competition climbing might become the best thing in competition for the next years ! Not to say the men's are boring, but you can't beat a GOAT being challenged to pursue higher greatness against a roster of more specialized, younger and hungry competitors.
If lead and boulder are separated Janja will still be goat. Because ai will place last in bouldering and maybe will be first in lead and Janja will be first in boulder and worst case scenario second in lead so there is still no comparison and nothing changes. She is GOaT. Another thing to point out is that the competitions would be on separate days so Janja would not be tired trying to do lead after spending all that time on Boulder. So she might actually come out much stronger after some rest. Cute to see all the ai fans spamming all these Janja posts.
look man, AI generated voice not cool, would be very cool if we could avoid it, as in the long term if this channel grows, chances are there would be next to no community or respect for a channel like this. interesting content and all, but like another comment said, more background research and getting the facts straight is definitely in order, as well as ideally some more human input, (assuming you are not actually reading the script or just using a voice generating program)
56 gold medals now, Janja is unstoppable.
55 in world cup and championships + 2 Olympic golds - he talked about 55 combined for championships and wc.. but yeah she is awesome
sadly goat can never be women
@@UrsantaHoHoHojust a terrible take I’m afraid
I'm watching this 2 days after Janja won her second Olympic Gold Medal.
It is hard to see anyone taking her GOAT crown any time soon, but unlike many sports, I think most of us would cheer that climber along just as much.
The Climbing Community is special that way.
BTW, I just became the 100th Subscriber. Is there a prize for that?
Definitely watching her climb in the Olympics. She's in her prime.
Hmm not at 100% at the Olympics this year yet she took the gold...she is amazing
I appreciate how you took the time to pronounce everyone's names correctly. Most people don't do that.
I really agree, First time I hear the names pronounced correctly!!! It always amazes me how commentators persistently ignore the right pronunciation🙄
still butchered the korean name though lol
true, but he really just miswrote oriane's last name while it was displayed on the video at 6:02
no, he completely butchered Seo Chaehyun’s name
@@jussyuchi5076 No he didn't. I realize he tends to overpronounce certain names a little bit in a fear to get it wrong, and it sounds differently when you just casually say those names in real life, but he didn't 'butcher' it.
I hate how (probably people who never were in sport claim that Ai is being 'bullied' because she sometimes can't reach boulder but its not she is 10inches shorter-and have many many things helping her because of statue. And ofc Janja is the villain for many because she is taller and stronger. I am Slovenian, love Ai s style, I am happy also when she wins but its not the case she is victim (I have feeling in 2020s vistim mentality is must be, and they projecting it thru Ai). But W girl, perfect for villain in this sport for many...I think she at 29 if only stays motivated can win Olympic medal, very possibly gold-we will see.
She just won the 2024 Paris Olympics too
She won 🥇 today so making the case. Im Slovenian and she is so humble-probably she is very compettative inside but still humble-she cried after second O gold.
This is some JxmyHighroller shit and I'm here for it! :D
Edit: Okay, feedback.
1. There were some inaccuracies, like calling Janja the "reigning Olympic gold medalist for Lead and Boulder combined". What's that supposed to mean? The format of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics was "Combined", comprised of Boulder, Lead *and* Speed. The format used in the 2024 Paris Olympics is called "Boulder & Lead".
2. Next, the IFSC World Championships take place every other year, not every year (you called them "a yearly standalone event").
3. Inconsistent name order for Asian names. I'd say choose one and stick with it.
4. In Janja's medal breakdown, you could have separated medals by discipline.
5. It's clear you're taking heavy inspiration from JxmyHighroller (even down to the music), so it would've been nice to see some more care put into the stats and maybe to see some graphs, timelines etc.
6. Lastly, when posing the question whether there's "some new climber", we see footage of Franziska Sterrer and Ilaria Scolaris, both of them not very new to the sport. Erin McNeice or Zélia Avezou would've been more fitting, and maybe others.
All in all, the video (and the channel, for that matter) do come across as very reliant on AI (channel logo is obviously AI generated, for example). Whether or not you used AI only you know, but it's definitely how much of it "feels".
Thank you so much for the feedback, there's some great points here, your completely right, we'll implement them on our next video.
should have mentioned her winning percentage
Kinda strange, thought there would be more to it - like this person doesn't really know about climbing and just looked up Wikipedia or something. FWIW, In the soft rubber climbing shoe era there have been 3 males who moved the grades up over and over again - first the Gullich era, then the Sharma era, then the Ondra. It would be unfair not to give the nod to Ondra given not only his endless list of hard routes, ridiculously hard on-sites, boulders etc. And Silence is Still the hardest climb in the world with its rating confirmed - yet still unrepeated. Plus he killed in sport climbing when he actually showed up to do it for years.
Is Janja even a discussion?
When Janja competes, she almost always wins. If you look at the 26 gold medals that the other climbers in the Olympics have, a lot of them came in events that Janja didn't compete in. For example, I think that 9 out of 10 of Natalia Grossman's bouldering golds came when Janja was taking time off or training for the Olympics (2021). Same for Brooke's gold in Hachioji last year (Janja injured). And Miho Nonaka won a bunch of her bouldering golds in 2018 when Janja skipped most of the bouldering season to complete high school. In recent years, only Ai Mori in lead has been able to go head to head with Janja and win a decent % of the time.
I remember when Ashima Shiraishi was winning in Youth comps and everyone was predicting, that she will dominate women climbing events. Everyone was eager to see her winning in IFSC comps but when she reach that age she didn't. So please, PLEASE stop predicting who will be a future star, let this young athletes develop at their own pace. Some may sacrifice their whole lives to the climbing, others may choose different paths in life.
Janja is the GOAT.
Wow. Really high quallity video, im impressed, and u got a subscriber!
Super appreciated!
Goat got another gold medal
While i do agree that Japan is the strongest Climbing Nation out there i would say that second Place is not as clear cut. If we look at the IFSC Team Rankings for Females (like you did in this video) in the Year 2024 the Top 5 for Boulder are: France, Slovenia, Japan, USA and Germany and for Lead it's: Japan, Slovenia, Austria, France and Korea.
If we go back to 2023 we have for Boulder: USA, Japan, France, Slovenia and Germany. For lead it's: Slovenia, Japan, France, Korea, Austria (and USA on 6)
It's true that the USA has a bigger talent pool than most other Nations but there a lot of Countries out there that come farther with less.
Overall, at least of female comp climbing, i would argue that France is the second strongest.
You can't compare half a continent ( usa) to Individual countries....
Also it is awesome the ampunt of feelings these girls show, share (same feeling as men go thru-they just show them ☺️) also Brooke and Janja are good friends in real life. Rabeatau went to Slovenia in march to train together since Janja was qualified for Olympics and she wasnt-this is why Brooke was showing happy emotions even tho Janja "took" her gold medal..
Watched all bouldering in Innsbruck WC and its just a fact of life, Janja is levels better (didn't prove it at Olympics-but was at 85,90% at best-still won gold relatively easily
strongest Climbing nations: Japan and USA? What about Austria, South Korea, France and Italia? And Slovenia had very good climbers before Janja and has still a very strong team behind her.
Great vid! I would love to know more about her
Adam is for my money the greatest all around climber of all time if you had to choose one, although I would say it’s not a great way to look at climbing, as there are so many different disciplines and achievements that don’t need to be compared
How many people are behind this channel?
Records are what matters impact on the sport way behind in importance And for records you have Wayne Gretzky on top of all others. Can Janja catch him YES she can but hasnt yet .Gretzky's 163 assists in 86 would be like an MLB player batting 600 in a season Wayne has 61 NHL records Jordan has less than 20 NBA records
Warren Harding, Royal Robbins, the pioneers?
It's a completely senseless discussion
I don't think Jacob understands the scale of hundreds and thousands of years haha.
You forgot to mention Hanna Meul of Germany
no where in the video did you mention you were only going to talk about the women in comp climbing, but that's exactly what you did. great video but you've got to set the stage properly
Alex huber was the first to climb 5.15
it should be a crime to make a video like this that does not mentioning josune bereziartu
Something you could have pointed out is that there is a significant chance for lead and bouldering to be separate disciplines in the next Olympics, which would mean the World Championship would drop the combined format too.
And that means Janja will have a very big challenge, she is unbeatable in combined but if she tries to be the best in both bouldering and lead she'll have to face boulder and lead specialists who focus fully on their speciality.
Ai Mori is already around the same level as Janja on lead, but can Janja win when she has to care about bouldering while Ai might just drop bouldering entirely ?
From a spectator's standpoint it's hard to deny that following the men's competitions is more entertaining as it's more volatile without a heavy favorite dominating (unless it's a lead comp with Ai and Janja). Greatness is appreciated of course but I'm not gonna lie, women's bouldering was as it's best from a spectator's standpoint when Janja was hurt and every women tried to take the throne, with Nathalie, Brooke, Miho and Orianne winning a world cup each.
But now women's competition climbing might become the best thing in competition for the next years ! Not to say the men's are boring, but you can't beat a GOAT being challenged to pursue higher greatness against a roster of more specialized, younger and hungry competitors.
If lead and boulder are separated Janja will still be goat. Because ai will place last in bouldering and maybe will be first in lead and Janja will be first in boulder and worst case scenario second in lead so there is still no comparison and nothing changes. She is GOaT. Another thing to point out is that the competitions would be on separate days so Janja would not be tired trying to do lead after spending all that time on Boulder. So she might actually come out much stronger after some rest. Cute to see all the ai fans spamming all these Janja posts.
Januar ist the GOAT..... 🙏❤
Probably should’ve waited a few days to make this video as she’s busy invalidating all these stats 😂.
Paul Preuss.
Whats five point fifteen? 😂
An indication of an automated voice reader 😆😂
Вы унижаете оригинальных исполнителей. Я с вами😂!!!
ai content is terrible
We didn't use AI tho, we're just new to this youtube thing, would appreciate constructive feedback on how we could improve
@@ClimbingPulse then who the hell verbally says five point fifteen??? you might as well call this channel gumby pulse
@@aloxl lol , you're right hired a V/O on fiverr who doesn't know much about climbing lingo.
She won, but Ai Mori was just a beast on the lead ❤ and the setters..didn't seem to do a good job
look man, AI generated voice not cool, would be very cool if we could avoid it, as in the long term if this channel grows, chances are there would be next to no community or respect for a channel like this. interesting content and all, but like another comment said, more background research and getting the facts straight is definitely in order, as well as ideally some more human input, (assuming you are not actually reading the script or just using a voice generating program)
I appreciate the feedback! we're working on a more well researched script, and this is actually a professional voice actor i paid on fiverr :/
Quit with the ai generated script brother, it's embarassing
who tf ever things of lebron as the greatest? :)) he got no rings though
He has 4 rings :) and playing great at 40 y/o , he's up there for sure :)
you don't know ball