Metropolitan Police officer found guilty of assault for manhandling woman on bus
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- A Metropolitan Police officer who “manhandled” and wrongly arrested a woman for bus fare evasion in front of her young son has been found guilty of assault.
Pc Perry Lathwood, 50, of Norman’s Bay, East Sussex, grabbed Jocelyn Agyemang by the arm, causing bruising injuries during the arrest on July 21 last year in Whitehorse Road, Croydon, south London.
Ms Agyemang was dropping her son off at her mother’s house before heading to an appointment in Marylebone scheduled for 12.30pm.
Police officers were helping ticket inspectors on a bus in Croydon at the time.
After she and her son disembarked the bus at around 11am, she was asked to show she had paid her fare by a bus inspector.
At Westminster Magistrates’ Court, Deputy Senior District Judge Tan Ikram ruled it was “not necessary” for Lathwood to “grab the woman’s arm, arrest her and handcuff her”.
The police watchdog said it will now liaise with the force to progress disciplinary proceedings for the officer.
Lathwood, who is attached to the Metropolitan Police’s Road Traffic Policing Command, will be sentenced at the same court on June 14.
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I just want to remind everyone in the comments she was found to have actually paid for the bus
And it doesn’t take as long as he was taking to get cuffs off. Telling her to calm down was unnecessary and was purposefully dragging it on.
@@davidboat8467glad I’m not the only one who knows and noticed this! I can’t believe they ganged up on her knowing she has a kid… poor kid was worried his mom was gonna be taken away. I find it incredibly cruel for police to behave in that manner especially infront of a child and a parent 😔
@@marekohampton8477In that case, why did they immediately start grabbing and accusing? Don’t play dumb. If someone grabs at you, you probably aren’t going to want to be helpful.
@@marekohampton8477 she is the victim dummy
M 0 R 0 N@@marekohampton8477
Back in the 80's myself and three friends were returning home after a night out on the town. We made our way to an underground subway that took us to the other side of some train tracks. As we exited the subway we were met by a police van and about 6 officers, including a police dog. They immediately pounced on us. There wasn't any explanation, but I was thrown against a wall, then thrown to the floor and handcuffed. During this time I had bitten my tongue so bad it was bleeding, I was so angry because we had literally done nothing wrong. We were taken to the police station and as we were escorted to the cells I was telling the officer that had thrown me to the ground I was going to sue him for assault. He just laughed and said "That's not assault" but then as he led me through a doorway, handcuffed, he violently shoved me against the doorpost and simply said "Oops, mind the door"! They said we had caused some commotion at a Kebab Takeaway, but none of us had been there and we were simply making our way home. The following morning we were all released with a "Police Warning" for being drunk and disorderly. The arresting officers weren't present and we never saw them again. Since then I have never trusted or had faith in the Metropolitan Police. I'm so thankful that these days so much of their thuggery is caught on camera
I had always disliked the police they are on a power trip mostly and do not handle true crimes rather they waste their times on petty ordeals. Now being a police is nothing they are slow, stupid and incompetent and these are the people who are meant to uphold the law whom do not follow it themselves. Also, they do not catch thieves who are on the lose more and more robberies occur now in daylight the law is almost non-existent. If you beat up a criminal it is assault even if they are the ones committing a crime you will be thrown in the cell for "assaulting" them. My personal belief is if you are robbing someone you have thrown away you rights whatever happens next if you get kicked, thrown or attacked is your own fault and the police should not defend you.
With all respect, policing in the 80's is very different to today. Policing nowadays isn't the same as it was back then. I don't understand what the officer in this situation is meant to do?
If the police officer does not do his job properly - the public complain. The fare paying passengers may well complain and he will be investigated.
So he asks to see the ticket and she does not show it to him, there is some suggestion to him that she has not paid for her ticket, and is now attempting to walk off.... so in order to prevent that he arrests her.
Now he is found guilty of assault and will lose his job as a result??? What's he supposed to do in that situation?
If he allows her to walk off everyone would complain he didn't do his job (as it wouldn't come to light that she had in fact bought a ticket) and if someone complained he would be investigated....
I don't know why she didn't just show a ticket.... it literally takes seconds and avoids a whole scene like this. How people think they have the right to get on some form of transport, not show a ticket and that nobody should be allowed to escort them off or deal with them is beyond me...
Do you think a passenger getting on a plane without a ticket would just be let on their way.... ?
It is not only the metropolitan police they're like that all over the country, and they are supplied with the cheapest bodycams because its amazing how often there turns out to be no footage.
@@WS-ij1fu The bodycams are supplied by Axon. They work well enough but aren't brilliant.
Contrary to popular belief the footage can't be deleted by an officer. A camera gets "docked" and charges up and whilst it's charging it uploads the footage to the cloud. When officers/supervisors want to view the footage or to use it evidentially they login to a website and can view it and download the clips.
Clips that are "Saved" for evidential purposes are retained for 6 years I believe it is.
Any clip not categorised as "evidence" remains there for 30 days and is then automatically deleted as I understand... no doubt people will tell me i'm wrong (i'm not) but there is no "delete" button on any of the footage that anyone can click on, you simply have to wait 30 days.
Sometimes in a violent struggle where you are using perhaps two hands, you aren't able to activate the recording on your camera, as this requires a hand.
The cameras are usually on "buffer mode" so they basically record 1 minute prior to the camera button being activated but without audio - this is why the first part of the clip has no sound - because the "buffer" part has no audio. Once the camera is set to record by the officer or a colleague it starts recording audio as well.
Sometimes the batteries in a camera don't last a whole shift, especially if it's a 14-18 hour shift.
@@thefiestaguy8831 Exactly the officers have to be honest enough to start it recording - which they are not.
Those officers that stood by and watched while this woman and her very little boy were abused and terrorised should be held accountable too.
Don't be ridiculous. The woman needed to comply. It's simple. She put her own son through an ordeal over nothing.
Agreed!
@@M_C_O.G73
"Ridiculous?!"
Are you even aware of the facts and all that happened on the bus before it got to the road?! If you are - then God have mercy on you for what you wrote! If you think this was okay, then I hope the same happens to you! because sometimes that is the only way people learn to have compassion. What happened on the bus was unfair! now THIS?! Highly unfair.
What has happened to having simple humanity?
I pray she and her child receive Healing for the trauma and shock!
All that happened there should not have happened and could or should have been handled differently and WITH COMPASSION! Hope you get some! I wonder if you would say the same if that were your daughter, sister, wife, family member of friend.
I guess the little traumatised crying baby also allegedly means nothing to you?!
By the way - I am a qualified Lawyer myself - I am glad the Courts came to the right decision. Normally our Courts are always criticised but thankfully the Courts saw through it all. Hope one day, you have that approach as well to your fellow man/woman.
Yes we are all taught to respect the man/woman in uniform but it also goes both ways. They are meant to serve the community not this...It saddens me and you should feel the same way and don't wait until the same happens to you or someone close to you, before you realise that what all of us observed was unfair. As for the Bus Conductor - I hope she feels bad when she sees all that she caused - she could have handled it differently and it would NEVER have escalated to this
They can’t comprehend that when they scare people, they’re less likely to comply not more. The idea that they couldn’t have got her to tap her card without doing all this is a joke.
@@M_C_O.G73 needed to comply?.WTF are you wittering on about?
Well done police. That child will grow to hate men in uniform of authority
And all because she refused to cooperate and thinks she is above the law.
The child would have been raised like that regardless of this incident
I don't know why you are blaming the police, it's the feral "mother" who is to blame. 🙄😜🤪😂🤣
@@SarthorShe got found guilty in a court of law, idiot.
Yh she overreacted but the police should be trained to de-escalate.
Surrounding her making her feel threatened over a fuggin train ticket.
Understandable if she was an actual threat to the public, no need to surround her she ain't out running you with a kid.
Police could have been much more tactful
Now her kids gonna grow up with a justified fear and hatred of the police !
And all because of the way their mother was acting and refusing to cooperate. You think she only acted like that this once? Those kids are screwed with a mother like that.
they want to be hated
@@jeffbarbato1504 who?
If they’d simply said she was being detained while they investigate I’d maybe give them the benefit of the doubt but they went straight to an arrest ! You have a right to be pissed when youre being unlawfully manhandled by an inept costumed muppet
@@hughjanus7311👈🤡I think you will find that the police were in the right. There was a bit more to this story while she was on the bus. All she had to do was show the ticket or card which she is required to do so by law, when asked by the revenue inspection officers. She made something out of nothing. I'm surprised she didn't pull the race card. The officers were actually cleared.
All them officers to check bus tickets? This has got to be a joke! So when your house gets burgled and you dial 999 and they say theres nobody immediately available as they are dealing with more serious crime, this is where they are. Harrassing women with children for a bus ticket.
The police don't get given a choice about this.
They will send you a crime number and to never to hear them again.
@@patrickcoyle682 is the number 666 666 666
@@justynmatlock8873 They have a choice to use discretion or use brute force on awoman while her child is watching traumatised and all over a bus ticket, they have time for this but not available for serious crime incidents
@@justynmatlock8873ok there following orders to be there, that doesn't explain there behaviour.
See when my son and his mates got robbed at knife point, with 100s of witnesses and CCTV the police didn't even bother to turn up. Yet an army turn up for bus fair. Same as if someone's evicted, there's something very wrong with our country. These police should be sacked, I cannot believe what they did in front of the poor woman's child
SOME OF THESE PIGS THINK THEY ABOVE THE LAW
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
@@goldfinga786able na
@@penguinnipshow can you love cats but dislike your fellow human? if your pet was there would you be happy?
@@penguinnips it will one day no matter what
Disgusting. That poor child will never forget this. What a bully. All over a bus ticket. The modern day police force is a disgrace
One wonders if the officers dare to give the same treatment to a bloke. All these officers are quick to response for light incidents for their target quota. When it comes to stolen property or any that require more paper or leg work, they'll either disregard or delay the investigation process.
All she had to do is show the ticket
Trust me im no lover of police
All that shouting upset the little one ❤
There’s no ticket it’s an Oyster card! Which she was showing them.
The fact all of them stood and watched him assault a woman in the street is disgusting. It shows they do not see anything wrong in this, in fact, it’s how they roll.
@@rodneybelton2944 did she not clearly indicate her oyster?? THAT'S her ticket.
Also, there is STILL grey area in the court system...it gets confusing on public transport networks, but (depending on POV) fare evasion is a civil matter.
If someone is using a service they claim to have paid for, and the supplier claims they have not paid for...
i think the fact that this pig has been found guilty should be all the data we need. you are a bootlicker.
They only do the fare checks in more deprived areas, you'll never see that happening in Hampstead where the actual criminals live
Love it, the more money you have the bigger the criminal.
The role of police is to suppress the populace for the ruling class. The poor are fed to police in order to ensure they maintain their bulldogish manner.
Cops attend mob handed for a trifling offence and they tell her to calm down? That’s the absolute height of irony.
They always expect victims to be calm while assaulted. They will stack up the charges if not. Resisting, assault on officer etc etc.
There is no situation that cant be made worse just by the police being present.
They wont touch burglers or shoplifters , but will swarm a bus just to harrass and assault a woman with her child , they must be so proud of themselves
Get your facts right. They didn't swarm the bus. In certain parts of London, the dishonest practice of ticket evasion is very high (and affects the price you and I have to pay for a ticket). Sadly, ticket inspectors doing their job quite often get abused and assaulted, so in certain areas police are needed for support. In most instances, their presence is enough for most people to do the right thing and show their ticket, even if they haven't paid most will own up. It was a normal situation where this lady was asked to show her ticket so that it could be verified that she had paid for her journey. It would only have taken a matter of seconds and she would have been on her but she walked away and ignored the collector and police despite repeated requests to comply. She could have shown her child an example of being civil and law abiding but instead acted suspiciously by trying to walk away as though she was above the law; she then escalated the situation by using raising her voice, creating a scene and using her child as an excuse all because she wouldn't show her ticket when asked (which is what numerous other passengers would have cooperatively been doing before her). Moral of the story: when given a normal, simple request, cooperate instead of making a mountain out of a molehill and trying to turn it into fictional 'police brutality'. If the policeman hadn't touched her she would have continued to walk away, is he supposed to allow anyone who refuses to comply to merely walk away do just that? How was he or the ticket collector/inspector supposed to know that she had a valued ticket if she wouldn't answer their simple question or allow them to check her ticket?
@@ppullman5470 oh you are one of them , I didnt bother reading
@@steve10Tbf maybe you should. If what he’s saying is accurate it’s pretty hard to argue with
@@ppullman5470She didn’t assault or abuse the ticket inspector, and she’d paid for her ticket. There was zero reason for the police to manhandle her. Roughing up women for no reason seems to be a bit of a habit with the Met Police.
@@steve10oh you are one of them. I bet you’re never wrong. That’s because you can’t be reasoned with by facts or evidence, can never lose an argument because you just drop your two pence worth in then can’t respond when some facts are thrown your way.
The child must have been devastated.
Devastated his mum couldn’t follow simple questions
Shut up @@DJ-qo3ml
@DJ you must've devastated your family by being a nitwit
@@Av1on1cs I’m devastated at your lame response
Police should be sued for traumatising the child
242,824 violent or sexual crimes reported in London last year.
I guess we've got officers to spare for bus tickets have we.
Quite a few of those sexual assaults are perpetrated by police officers !
Don't forget TV licence fraudsters!
The internet won't police itself.
how many of the sex crimes were committed by serving officers?
@@cardigan3000very few. Your point?
Over the past year, the Metropolitan Police paid out approximately £36 million in compensation. This amount includes claims related to public liability, such as wrongful arrests, personal injuries, and misconduct by officers, as well as vehicle-related claims from road traffic accidents. Notable payouts included £22,500 for a botched stop and search and £30,000 for an unlawful stop involving a chokehold. These figures reflect the Met's position as the UK police force with the highest compensation payouts (Byline Times).
To all those people that defend that unstable mother, saying that she paid the ticket, I remember that she refused to show it. Refusing to show the tickets is the same to don’t pay it. She tried to walk away from a police officer. An honest person cooperate with a police officer. This sentence is disturbing.
I phoned the police to report a group of feral youths smoking weed,drinking, and setting fire to household dustbins but unfortunately no officers could attend on this occasion 😳
I’m going to tell the police they HAVE’NT paid their bus fare next time they decide to pay our street a visit.!! There’ll be police all over the place.? Helicopters will be up.? road blocks.? armed swat.? dog handlers? CID.? riot vans.?
They’re scared until they see a vulnerable person or minority.
Very true
Tell the police it’s a group of pensioners waving a bible and preaching about Jesus the entire police force will be there in seconds
Ry true, if you read true the the lines of the bible, then u can see that the police are enemies of us, bunch of pigs and rats and wrong aliens who are close to fascism and nazism
oh no, not the devils lettuce!
She was already off the bus when she was approached and asked for her ticket, you only have to show your ticket when actually on the bus. The lady was in the right and did not have to show her pass. Her pass was later checked and she had paid her fare hence she hasnt been charged and the officer involved has been convicted. This could just of easily been your family member and people should remember that when they're defending these types of police officer.
Wrong.
Thanks for your honest comment. People excusing this because they don't think it could happen to them or their family.
Is that fact or assumption?
This is literally how tfl and the police check for tickets now, once you get off the bus, same with trains, the inspectors will wait in the ticket lobby.
So you are claiming you can just ignore them as you aren't on the mode of transport anymore!?
@@eyesodd They need to take into account that people have other things to do. You can check people's tickets while on the bus. I would be quite impatient if I was stopped while getting off a bus because most likely I have places to be at a specific time or I have a connection to make and I'll end up missing it while standing around talking to you about something that should have been checked on the bus. It would be like checking my boarding pass after I get off a flight.
@@eyesoddYou've obviously never actually been on a bus before. Nobody gets their tickets checked when leaving the bus, that's absurd. People only get their tickets checked when entering the bus.
The fact all the other officers present did NOT step in and tell this bully to release the INNOCENT woman,in other words they would all do the same,F the police!!
you are a clown, shes in the wrong, hes just holding her arm to stop her escaping, which she is trying to do
Check out the case of Jaffer and Lewis.
How many shoplifters and crack fiends were probably on that bus on the way to the city to cause distress and rob and steal more than what i earn in a month. And this poor woman gets manhandled over a bus ticket on her way to an appointment in front of her young child this made me feel sick to my stomach.the world is finished.
Public funded private army for the corporate and corrupt
I think people are being intentionally dense but here’s me hoping for the best, in beginning you can see her walking away with her child (likely bc its ridiculous for 5 officers to be present for fare evasion), then when cornered by the officer wearing the bodycam we can see her remove her oyster card from her jean jacket pocket 0:07 , then she goes to grab her son and moves her oyster towards the scanner around 0:30 but the shock from the officers arm causes her to be distracted from the scanner and we can hear her distress about being manhandled, then when asked “where’s your card” she says 1:01 “my card is here”, then he starts DRAGGING HER 1:09 till 1:14 by 1:26 she’s on the floor, clearly not being moved on her own will, whilst another officer focuses on her behaviour and her screaming, when his colleague is behaving inappropriately, at 1:37 she’s back up and another officer is trying to deescalate the situation 1:36 , but she is clearly struggling w someone twisting her arm.
At 2:11 untill 2:17 , i personally start to feel sick, he VERY clearly is mishandling her arm, by this point she has made it very clear that she has an appointment - none of the officers have even attempted asking what for(a common diffusion tactic). at 2:22 her braids are pulled by this officer, if he was genuine about this, her safety(especially for a petty offence) would be prioritised, even if she did commit fare evasion(which the court later proved she didn’t) it would still be well within her right to charge for some form of deliberate assault. by this point 2:33 , she seems exhausted by her own fear response and clearly would prefer if any of the other officers detained her atp, its not about “why am i being arrested” it’s about “ let anyone but him arrest me”. FINALLY at 3:31 someone just forcibly takes her card from her, in my personal opinion that would be the preferred crime - i would rather get judged for taking someone’s belongings by force than get sacked and prosecuted for assaulting a woman (who hasnt even been asked if she has any disabilities mental or physical which may explain why she’s so adamant about not being arrested). Its also at this point where she clearly and calmly states her issues. finally at 4:38 they remove the cuffs and she explicitly states her issues with the officer wearing the cam, then when she moves away from him he calls her a “daft cow” - clearly unprofessional, clearly shows his rudeness, i have no sympathy for him.
My final analysis, this is clearly an officer that has conformed to his expectations of what an officer should be instead of actually doing his due diligence in making the streets a safer place, the other officers are also a part of this issue - instead of removing the antagonistic officer away from this woman, they proceeded to ask condescending questions like “whats the problem, talk to me” when she has clearly stated that her issue is with HIM. This is a woman who has an appointment for her son (i believe) has to carry his scooter and make sure he comes with her - she’s in a rush but clearly isnt going to dash off like some young teenager, even if she did, she’s SURROUNDED by officers, one of which is holding onto her son - she isn’t going to leave. Officers tend to forget that meeting them, especially in a situation where they can revoke your rights at any moment is a traumatic experience, especially for mena and black people where there is a recent history of abuse and false detainments. officers represent eachother and when one acts like this, it further diminishes the trust the general public has for ALL of them.
great analysis. the people criticising her and defending the cop are showing their true colours.
@@josephfoulger9628 thank you, i find it strange that they’re defending this officer so hard when the court already reached a verdict that this behaviour was inappropriate and unprofessional, glad to know someone else thinks the same!
Great analysis, however please use paragraphs...my poor eyes..
@@mrt-ji9qg cool my bad, i wrote it when i just woke up 😭
That is a very well constructed analysis of the situation
I also thought that as the handcuffs were coming off, she had calmed down, as another officer had stepped in, yet as the cuff was released the arresting officer still maintained his firm grip on her causing her to start resisting yet again. Like you're taking the cuff off so why do you still have this need to hold o to me. and then he gave his reason as trying to stop her from moving into the road and followed that up by calling her a daft cow.
A very badly handled situation all round by the Police Officers.
I've witnessed police do far worse to a white women of whom just questioned the sergeant, literally thrown her down stairs and she hit her head on the pavement, it went to court and the judges were in favour of the offending sergeant. It's on my video list on my channel.
What’s that got to do with this exact video
Because the exact video's subject is excessive force used by the police?
Not speaking for them... Just posing an obvious, possible answer. 😂
@barb6725 Well, that's a silly question: Is it not? The comment is identifying that this is regular behaviour by the police no matter who you are.
@@barb6725 The race-baiter mob are making this out to be the new Rosa Parks
Oh and if you don’t think it’s all about colours and privileges look up the judge Tan Ikram who found this copper guilty of assault, the same judge who sends a white police man to jail for sharing racial jokes in a private WhatsApp group whilst giving a discharge to the three brown women who publicly glorified the Hamas terrorists who slaughtered innocent Jewish civilians on October 7th
Oh and who publicly likes Anti-Israel LinkedIn posts
@@Cerberus101You realise how tragic of a human someone has to be to expect reparations. SMH
I hope she filed a lawsuit.
There is a crime committed here. The extortionate bus fares.
Learn to pay attention..
She had actually paid for the "ticket " tfl agent.
Just like in the states. Total overreaction. Simple instruction, comply and show your ticket ffs
Always the victim.
She showed her ticket.
She was able to prove in court that she paid.
He didn’t have the points to prove an arrest, and arrested anyway.
Overuse of force as well.
I don’t think she overreacted at all.
Additionally, she has an appointment and a child too.
The officer that grabbed her is not very smart at all
Officer who 'manhandled' and wrongly arrested woman for bus fare evasion guilty of assault
Jocelyn Agyemang told the court she felt "violated" by the wrongful arrest. "I just felt a bit degraded because I had not done anything wrong," she said.
A Met Police officer who "manhandled" and wrongly arrested a woman for bus fare evasion has been found guilty of assault.
Perry Lathwood, 50, of East Sussex, assaulted a woman in front of her young son in Croydon, south London, on 21 July last year.
Jocelyn Agyemang was dropping her son off at her mother's house when the incident took place.
Police officers were helping ticket inspectors and after Ms Agyemang got off the bus, she was asked to show she had paid for her journey.
Ms Agyemang said she told the inspector to walk with her as she was in a hurry. Lathwood then walked over and grabbed her to stop her.
At Westminster Magistrates' Court, Deputy Senior District Judge Tan Ikram ruled it was "not necessary" for Lathwood to "grab the woman's arm, arrest her and handcuff her".
He continued: "She was difficult… but there were not reasonable grounds to suggest arrest was necessary.
Works both ways and i am not a copper
In the old days, if you hadn't done anything wrong, you would co-operate until the matter was cleared up and then just be on your way, knowing that police had a job to do, and ultimately, be glad of them doing so. But that was back in the day of respect and basic law and order!
M@@Gill-pc9nm ➡️Couzens➡️Carrick
@@lennyrobinson7321no but you're not the brightest
She walked away from the ticket operator when he nicely asked for her to show her card - then the cop asked and she kept walking away… She wanted to start a problem.
0:30 "mummy stop"
1:00 "mummy show him your card"
The kid knows exactly whats going on
You do know she provided evidence in court of her trying to show she did pay but police were just being incredibly difficult. if the police did nothing wrong then maybe one of them would still have their job. but because of the way he handled her she was basically trying to show him her buss card to prove she did pay which she provided evidence for in court. They’re bothering people for no reason whilst there’s actual crimes being committed that’s way worse.
@InfiniteCookie3-jo2bb If I was late for something, I'd just cooperate.
@@sloppynumber12cooperate? Get questioned and likely miss the appointment when you’ve done nothing wrong. Get arrested and manhandled??
You can still delete this comment. How embarrassing.
Sad for all parties involved.
Absolute joke.
Simply show the ticket as you’re required to do, officers used their powers here perfectly and now being stuck on
Seeing this child go throughthis breaks my heart ❤️
Yeah she should have the child removed after causing him so much distress
@@whiskeywarlord9425stop drinking ya clot
EXACTLY. NOW ANOTHER BLACK CHILD WITH LIFELONG TRAUMA, UNNECESSARILY 🤷🏽♀️🇬🇧
This behaviour is why they grow up to be just as problematic as their parent.
She put herself in this situation it’s her own fault but because she’s black there’s a issue 🤔🤔
Wtf were they doing? Why is there so many officers for a woman and her child just over a bus pass? Thats ridiculous yet police wont come when actual crimes are reported.
This is why the public have turned against them.
I’ve seen FULL police cars in bus stops twice. Got worried thinking a bad crime had happened…NO. They were checking if ppl paid their bus fare & no mercy for the EVIL crime of skipping a sorry @ss £1.75 fare 🤡🤦♀️ what the fk .,,,
They were looking for people to predate on. To keep their bulldog senses sharp. This is by design.
CPS should take that child off her, absolute joke.
Again, there is no situation that a cop can’t make worse. 🤬 The Met Police handling all the ‘big crimes’ and incapable of even doing that.
Bus Pass, is this not a Civil matter?
OMG we've found the one thing that isn't a civil matter to the police! this is big news!
@@KX36It's pretty much a civil matter.
@@micklyons8858seen this argument before it's civil yes but can be regarded as theft. Eg going to restraunt and not paying
@@WilliamFairfield-qq2tq "Theft". Should the Bus Company not first make the allegation doing so formally?
@@paulirving2986 I imagine they did so when they called the police
Tackling real crime. Police always protecting corporations rather than the public. Wonder why public have negative perception of policing.
They don't understand our rules, a normal native would just comply and be on their way, this could've led to someone getting injured or worse.
This actually looks like he's trying to provoke her into assaulting him, it is illegal for him to put hands on her without reading her rights first, she wasn't under arrest or trying to run, other than trying to pull her arm out of his grip, she didn't retaliate at all, not even with foul language, so how could she be resiting arrest.
Wait so you think police officers chase down robbers and quickly read the rights out BEFORE restraining them everytime? Telling someone their rights is just a requirement before legal proceedings mate.
@@fozza3232 she is not running he is assaulting her.
Wrong
@@y_strikes2770 she attempted to push by him so yes in the eyes of the law she was evading. doesn't matter if we like it or not her actions are and were silly. like i get being annoyed as i was not long ago when arrested... get woken up to riot police and shit handcuffed for threatening text's i went mental cause i haven't had a phone in a while.
once they said it was 2 weeks before i got rid of it i had to kinda shut up, or the time before that i hear the police scoping round back and few riot vans outside so i go outside the back where i see the heads...
hands up right now or we'll spray... Fuck off, cunts. what are you here for, well that was the words i was uttering as they sprayed me.
stood there asking them to keep repeating the charges against me cause i was generally mortified.
i'm stood there not resisting but like "so tell me again what am i getting arrested for?"... hold up.... say that again" But how? when? i'm lost"
Never shouted nor kicked up a fuss was generally surprised they nicked me for said crime.
bail in 10 days for calling my Ex a fat bitch lol 😂 😂
@@y_strikes2770 yea I get that she's not running. In particular I'm responding to the "it's illegal to put hands on someone if you've not read their rights first". If this were true (which it's not) then police would be required to: for example, recite a legal paragraph in clear english, whilst engaging in a foot pursuit before apprehending a fleeing criminal.
She had paid FFS! People are being attacked and robbed while these public servants are pissing around wasting our taxes.
Then all she had to do was show her oyster.
Exactly, how undignified and humiliating to be treated as a criminal when she has paid her way via self service. no longer self service if they stop everyone to check their ticket .
You know this how?
At that moment noone knew it, because she refused to get her card checked (you can see it at 0:26 in the video).
"3.2.5 Duty to show your Oyster card, smartcard or contactless payment card. You must show your Oyster card (and supporting photocard, where needed), Oyster photocard, smartcard or contactless payment card on each journey, whenever we ask you to do so. If you fail to do so, you may be liable to pay a penalty fare or you may be prosecuted. See also Section 7. If you wear a face covering, you must remove it if asked to do so by police officers or staff for the purposes of identification."
This is from the T&Cs you sign when you use the services.
So why not just allow her card to be scanned to prove she had paid? This was an ugly scene, but rather like legally buying your shopping in Tesco then refusing to show your receipt to the security guard when a theft tag had been left on. Some people just like to cause a scene
The biggest issue I can see, having only seen this for the first time, is really poor communication by the Officer, and at no time does he mention the reason for the arrest. Just saying you're under arrest, twice, minutes apart, with little to no instruction or explanation isn't good enough. Difficult to justify why arrest was necessary or even warranted.
When watching it a second time, I can barely make out some attempt to caution her, but given this is his body camera, it's shocking that we can barely hear him.
What are police supposed to do when you have a non compliant person accused of a crime and the police want to confirm whether or not a crime has been committed.
It seems the more screaming and struggling they do, especially brown skinned suspected offenders, they get compensated for their unruly and loud behaviour.
Maybe the training the police should get is if the suspect has been accused of or seen to commit an unlawful act, if they shout don’t touch me, leave me alone, the police must immediately release them and walk away.
Give it a trial, see how that goes.
“The police acted appropriately. Instead of showing her ticket, this woman was screaming hysterically, which unfortunately escalated the situation. It’s truly remarkable what the police have to endure.”
Why didn't she just show her ticket ?
She was trying to
She asked for the inspector to take a few steps with her while scanning the card, he refused to do so.
Disgusting behavior by a policeman who has been recorded before check out to plod or not to plod this vile officer thought he was above the law
What’s with all the screaming, shouting and drama? Why can’t she have a civil exchange with the officers? They just wanted to talk to her, to get to the bottom of whatever issue. Yell yell yell, get off me, get off me, get off me, pull pull pull, tug tug tug. Her head is on constant send and never receiving. Continuous erratic behaviour from her from the start and throughout. ‘She’ is upsetting her child by ‘her’ behaviour. You ain’t fooling me or the silent majority who are watching this.
This seems normal to me? She isnt providing a ticket and is arguing, shouting, trying to walk away/push through police - her own choices, she ends up detained as a result.
Someone being "polite" while being held is Plan A for most people so that should largely be ignored & not sympathised with.
So all i see is an awful example of parenting, her actions have scared her child for life and those scars are the seeds for he himself having issues with the police in later life & theres a cop whose been scape goated due to optics, no wonder people are hesitant to join the police force.
But the most shocking thing here is the police pressence for a bus ticket meanwhile i can see a dozen crimes a day at my local shopping centre and except for maybe a police car grabbing lunch from maccy d ill never see one.
Problem is, when they have no authority to do so.
@@loumc8610 Plus.. she DID present her ticket TWICE to the machine, at 0.21 when she says "TICKET" and reaches for the machine... and again at 0:28 when she says "TOUCH". It is funny how people lie to support their prejudices, when the facts are in front of them. But you are right, the police should not be involved before there is reasonable suspicion of an offence. So the whole method of swooping on all the passengers is unlawful.
Bullies
Can't believe this, i lived with a young police officer in training and i found him to be a horrible person, only going to continue.
This is what they mean about black people been over policed, All this over a bus ticket when you've got people being stabbed on the streets daily, maybe they should prioritise what calls to respond to.
Terrorism in plain sight.
I swear it's always that exact women shouting and holding up the bus.
The court decided to rule in her favour, so I guess your opinion means absolutely nothing like the rest of your life.😂
Racist fool
But she had paid for the ticket. So I’m guessing the bus driver or another passenger were the ones holding up the bus by calling the police for no reason…
@@lazra4321 yes she did. So why not just show them the ticket? Why do they have to escalate everything to become a ridiculous situation? Even the little kid had to say to him mum to just show them the ticket. The reason they do this is because they want it to escalate so she can become a victim and get a payout.
@@louisee782 calm down love why are you so angry?
This article was on the Sun Newspaper, it was later found out that she did ACTUALLY pay for her bus fare and it was the police who were overzealous hence the reason one of the officers was charged with assault in court.
Even if she hadn't paid the bus fare its still over zealous......
> Police officers were helping ticket inspectors on a bus in Croydon at the time.
Huh? Sounds like a civil matter.
Why didn't she just show em the ticket? It's not hard, then go cry victim. If it was me I'd ask what was the problem officer then show my ticket card etc. That being said its not exactly crime of the century is it. I see these Palestine protesters getting away with much MUCH worse.
Free Palestine
What like protesting against the genocide? I think you would have a different view if you and your family members was subjected to such oppression. If you have no empathy for human suffering, it shows your lack of humanity. You cannot claim to be civilised if you have no humanity.
White people always come up with the‘ compliance ‘… angle. Just do as the officer says and it’ll be alright. Like every officer is just and honest. Her civil rights were violated by him. Thats why he’s been convicted. Why’s he grabbing her? She’s not escaping from custody. Walk a mile in a dark persons shoes past officers in London and you’ll see why we don’t ‘comply’ when being terrorised by these bullies in police uniforms.
@@SaddamHussein726 Free (incert current thing) Why don't their Muslim brothers in Egypt etc help em out. Even they don't want to know. Just gets me thinking is all.
This country has become a police state, disgusting behaviour by these so called representatives of law.
I hope she brings a further lawsuit against them.
Even though cops were a bit excessive, she could’ve easily cooperated for the sake of her child, clearly shows where her priorities are
Poor little boy this is heartbreaking 💔
Why didn't the police officer just get off her and let her validate her card?
Why was she already walking away?
@@FrankieWilde2021 She didn't "walk away". Which video are you seeing?
@@icystrangers5482 The video where no one was grabbing her and she walked away...
LITEALLY THE START OF THE VIDEO
@@FrankieWilde2021 That's what you do when you get off a bus. You walk away from the bus stop.
Then we see her being stopped by a police officer in a cordon.
@@icystrangers5482 At the start of the video officer in front of her trying to stop her and she keeps waking.
Go be stupid else where.
Idiot. I'm done with you.
Honestly who would do this job, what an utterly unreasonable woman, and to act this way in front of her child too, I'm no lover of the Old Bill but come on. Police can't even hold someone by the arm now, what is wrong with these people? If the police asked me to show my ticket I would politely show my ticket, grown woman acting with the maturity of a small child. These are the types of people to refuse to show a receipt if asked for it, it is inconvenient of course but show a bit of decency and maturity if only for your own dignity.
Why do they have inspectors on buses Nothing to do with poleglass
Police can't even hold someone by the arm now 😅
Do u not see that she is saying u are hurting me? U must be a man or that u have not experienced just how such kind of a man grab can be hurtful to a women. If she said u are hurting me enough time why continue? She is not going anywhere. She is with her kid. Why let z women hold her? Stop blaming the victim.
Plus stop treating everybody as guilty unless they are proven too. Worse what about the kid? Not following this simple low in the presence of the kid makes it worse and crazy. She is not forced to show her tickets if he is not treating her as innocent and be respectful. Let him come up with z evidence he is accusing her of.
met police biggest gang of bullies and thugs
Disgusting. Poor mother and her child. ❤
Her poor child, that’s absolutely horrendous!!!
It's defentity over dramatised by the women!
Did they think she would run? Why were they physically holding her? Did they really think she would abandon her child and flee the police? Over a possible fare violation? Seems excessive and extreme over response.
They were holding her in order to dominate and exercise control. With no lawful purpose. Just because they think that they can.
She verbally abused the TFL Ticket Inspector who had the audacity of asking to see her ticket. They clearly suspected she had committed the crime of ticket evasion, she wouldn't give details, so they arrested her. Then she decided once she realises she IS going to be arrest, to co-operate... yet the Police Officer is found guilty of Assault. Yep this country is F*CKED! For everyone saying "The Police didn't show up to my petty irritation in the shit hole I live in"... they sure as shit aren't turning up now.
Why didnt she just show her ticket when asked?
Stereotypes become a thing for a reason. If you dont want to be seen as one, don't act like one.
Exactly
She was getting off the bus and was trying to get to an urgent appointment,she knew she had paid so didn't have to prove it to anyone,there always has to be a prat like you in these comments.
If she was in the wrong why wasn't she fined?
@@SaddamHussein726another prat
@@GRAMDAVNO1
I think you'll find that you have to show your ticket when asked on public transport.
If she was in such a hurry, why didn't she just show her ticket? It would have been far quicker.
We both know that she's acting true to form for her demographic; "nobody is telling ME what to do" and NEVER pass an opportunity for gob off at someone who you see as being in a position of authority.
Her own lousy attitude created this situation.
Those coppers should never work on the force. Absolute disgrace
They are precisely the way the system wants them.
That poor little lad 😢 This is traumatic for a child to watch. There are some things you don’t do when confronted by police. You don’t start shouting, try to walk off, try to resist. She could’ve just shown the card instead of kicking off and yelling. But it can be difficult for a woman when surrounded and boxed in by men. It’s very intimidating and I wouldn’t blame her for panicking.
But the officer should not have put his hands on her unless she was being arrested so it is assault. And the poor little boy saw it all.
Very unprofessional.
she has every right to get angry and emotional whilst being assaulted.
She did show her card,r u blind and deaf? Fool
@@josephfoulger9628not if you’re a responsible parent
Did you not hear him read her her rights, she WAS being arrested.
That's what people forget it can be very intimidating for a woman especially in a minority being surrounded by men. Why do male officers do that? It should of been the policewoman interacting with her instead. Maybe it could of stopped it escalating.
All in front of the baby?!?!?!? 😣😣😣 This is sickening ❗❗❗
Can't believe this nonsense is still taking place in London.
And literally none of it needed to happen if she showed her ticket 😂 great parenting.
Your time will also come 😊@Hearyehearye515
@@Hearyehearye515exactly
Here's my pass officer.
Thank you. You are free to go
I'd get upset over all the murders if I were you, not bus tickets. omg.
I drove the 159, 35, 101, 343, 49, 59, 319 and more. Then drove in Scotland for 2 years. I got more BS in the first half of any shift in London than in 2 years in Scotland. This brat is part of the problem.
The other officers present now need to be charged too. They stood by and allowed an assault to take place, essentially cooperating with the offence. They could easily have stopped the main offender and moved him away. Thank God they weren't armed police officers.
Poor Child 😥😡
he hears worse from her everyday
she is resisting, police officers stated multiple times to calm down and she refused.. clearly not an upstanding citizen of the community.
You are resisting common sense
Ok “Krish”
Resisting what? She is not under arrest, this is disgusting behaviour by the police…Guilty of assault & not that it makes a difference in this excessive use of force, but she actually paid her bus fare!
Yes your right, the police officer is NOT an upstanding citizen
Now go get your booster Jab Krish
Tommy Robinson Resist arrests
@@gobshyteguru2695 She wasn't under arrest... She was being detained so that police could investigate accusations that she didn't pay the fare. You can't just walk away when you are being detained for investigation. "That's called resisting arrest"
She just had to show the ticket inspector that she had paid, but decided that she was too good to do that. Why do some people refuse to obey a simple request, and then scream and struggle instead of complying? My sympathy is with the police office4, not that vile, hysterical woman, and anyone who believes that this was a racist incident is a moron.
She had paid which they checked nothing wrong what the woman did it was the officer who was in the wrong for trying to have her kidnapped in front of her child utter joke they waste their time with this sending half a dozen police to an incident like this when we have people stabbed killed shot houses being burgled children being raped and women etc being raped yet they are nowhere to be seen when that happens
@@SebastianEisenberg-qf4eb
We know that she paid, but why didn’t she let the inspector check her Oyster card like any normal, sane, civilised person would have done? What made her so special that she thought that she could behave like that and not be challenged? Some people are just up themselves, they want to cause a fuss, and that’s exactly what she did. There was no reason for it to kick off, but she brought it on herself.
All police and little boys who got bullied at school 😂
welcome to the hotel dysfunctional...you can check in any time you like.. but you can never leave
They should have all been sacked and locked up for that. 🇬🇧
Imagine being a police officer in London. Woman refuses to show her ticket until like 4 cops are around. Get's detained for breaking the law. Everyone crowding round making it their business demanding an explanation. hardest job in the world
That poor baby, he's so traumatised.
Police break the law and assults her and people just think she should do as she is told? WTF what is next?
Your assessment of what happened is warped. The police did their job.
You are very ignorant if you resist when an officer is doing his job requesting to see a ticket then you’re wasting police time and not following instructions of course they will hold you until they see the ticket it’s not hard to understand. She just acted like a crazy bitch and said the same thing about 200 times she is not in the right here😂
@jamiewoods7733 That's funny if he had done his job why was he found guilty of a crime, do you think its the police job to break the law.
@@jamiewoods7733Daft liar hiding on anonymous accounts...
well said. thank you.
Just show the damn card
servile sheep..... She had it in her hand the whole time. Waste of skin right here👆
Racist claptrap
@@reefnreeferpoor kid. Already has more sense than his mum
The card was in her hand
So simple
These delusional adults all she had to do was just listen
🇬🇧... Typical black woman.. she put her child through that rather than show she'd bought a ticket.. Rwanda 👽
Strange how people seem to think that they know better than a Senior District Judge who clearly identified the excessive unnecessary force that was applied by this police officer.
Yes, exactly, that's what I was thinking. What part of being found guilty don't these people understand.
It was judges that sent the Post Masters to prison, guess they were correct then?
Is he the same judge who lets people off for spraying paint on buildings?
😂😂😂 Fruits of “ Social Media
Judges can't be wrong ? Ever ?
First of all, for those who seem to have missed the headline, the officer was found GUILTY of assault.
Second of all, if you are not under arrest and are not endangering yourself or others, police officers have NO RIGHT to put their hands on you.
No matter what you feel about the bus ticket, this is an important and fundamental rule of a free and civilised society. We cannot have little thugs going round assaulting people.
Today it was this woman, another day it could be your wife or child. The laws are there for a reason, don't be so quick to throw them away.
*EDIT
For clarity, in this particular case the woman had already paid, with the judge stating, "There were not reasonable grounds to suggest arrest was necessary".
So how were they to stop her just walking away?
Not strictly true, police have powers to stop and search or stop and account, you can be lawfully“detained” for those purposes and if you attempt to resist police may use reasonable force to prevent you, force used however must be proportionate and necessary, I’m not saying the force used in this case was either of the two for a bus fare inspection
@@SeanieVoiceOver
Yes, stop and search applies to prohibited materials like drugs or firearms and is unlawful if the reasons for the search are not stated.
To be fair what you said is not wrong but this in this context we are talking about a bus ticket and it just doesn't apply.
@@issimondias
Lawfully detain her for a crime.
@@saffire301 the officer only needs reasonable suspicion of a crime to justify a stop and search, a stop and account doesn’t even need that, “May I see your ticket” would be stop and account, you’re not obliged to say anything in this scenario but refusing to show your ticket would give the reasonable suspicion grounds to escalate to stop & search, I.e. search for the ticket, Obviously the force used in this case was unnecessary, I’m not defending the Po-Po but the hysterical reaction of the lady didn’t help her
You left the poor child traumatic for his whole life
If she wasn’t storming around shouting and maybe talk to them instead of getting her child wound up by dragging it by the arm while shouting “don’t touch me” 😅 it blows my mind why people react like this when confronted by police. If you’ve done nothing wrong then what is the problem? This all wouldn’t of happened if she just spoke to them like a normal person with common sense.
I hate to break this to you but she had done nothing wrong. She had a perfectly valid ticket for her journey. Still didn't stop her getting ragged about by the Met over the price of a bus ticket.
Couldn't think of ANYTHING worse than being a Metropolitan Police officer. That little child saying "mummy show him your card" 😢💔 But problem with these small clips is non of us (unless you were there) saw what happened in theh beginning
The begining was the bus Company revenue protection officers checking everybodies cards and her refusing to show hers like the entitled little madam she is.
@@justynmatlock8873I don’t know the story but I have philosophical objections to rent a cops and choccos having the right to demand they see anything. The same with parking enforcement officers. I agree to the social contract that a duly sworn police officer has this right, not some choad with a cap and a clipboard. It’s more privatisation BS. Commercial businesses with the right, as given through bye-laws art by barely elected councillors, to demand you provide information. Unacceptable in my book.
Precise that
they get a race card at birth, the cub already has his own card
@@justynmatlock8873Bootlicker
Unfortunate situation. But no reason to shout , scream and being aggressive.
Just show your ticket and you are on your way. Hands up for small boy with common sense.
It is the officer being aggressive! Good job that she was loud enough to be heard clearly on the video
She's trying. to show her ticket....it's in her hand.
Well a British court of law found that the officer assaulted the lady. Your opinion is next to worthless. You evaluation is complete twaddle.
Don't you get it - A BRiTISH COURT RULED IT
Now eat that.
CONSTABLE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY DELUSIONAL
It is funny how you only see what you want to see . She had the right to shout, and was not aggressive one bit, but the police was more aggressive than she was, because she was the one that got hurt . 🤡
That little boy must have been so scared 😭 all over a couple of quid bus ticket?
If this had been a man none of these cowards would have gone near him.
police bully boy got his just reward. Didn't think police bothered with any misdemeanors under £200 (shop lifting). The lady actually was calm and respectful, during the time she was being assaulted by the officer.
exactly, she didn't even swear until late on
Hope you all know she provided evidence in court of her trying to show she did pay but police were just being incredibly difficult. if the police did nothing wrong then maybe one of them would still have their job. but because of the way he handled her she was basically trying to show him her buss card to prove she did pay which she provided evidence for in court. They’re bothering people for no reason whilst there’s actual crimes being committed that’s way worse.
If you’re claiming she didn’t then you need to clearly read into the story a little bit more instead of being so quick to judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t know all the details but how awful for those poor young children
Disgusting behaviour by the police. The child had more sense than her by saying, just show them the card. It didn't have to get that far. Still, the police had no rights to manhandle her like that.
Wicked bullies 😮😮😮😮
Do you see the trauma being caused to the child and how calm they are are in causing harm.
I see nothing wrong with what the police is doing here. This woman is out of her mind. I bet her child will be worse, when anyone will try to do anything about it he will cry RACISM. I’m so tired of this sh**t.
I'm black and I agree. She's literally walking away from the police. Are they meant to wave her goodbye? I would never act up like this in front of my kids, not even to make a point.
We don’t support our police officers. That policeman should get an award for standing up to appalling behaviour
his behaviour was appaling too, he lost control of his emotions, which is a no-no, especially if the other part is escalating. it's the job description. you can see the other officers trying to calm him down on the video. if you can't keep your emotions in check during a stressful event like this you can't be an officer sadly. the ability to keep your composure is paramount for any job where you have to interact with the public. it isn't even just a police thing, the service industry is the same.
Luckily the people in power don't agree with your lack of logic. Pretty obvious your education stopped in secondary school.
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h change the people in power to get back respect for the police
@@catiasantos9470 if I behaved like that as a white man I would be beaten and no one careless. She got off very lightly after appalling behaviour
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h replace the woke misandrists with decent people who support the police.
I didn't think that fare evasion was an arrestable offence
This video Doesn't show what happend on the bus, we cant judge, what did she do on the bus, this video is one sided.
And only shows one narritive, so dont belive this video, thank you,
This situation could have been avoided if the woman stopped shouting and acting like a victim! This ain't America
Do you expect her smile when she is assaulted and twisted unfairly? Her rescuing is according to stress. Fair enough
Next time they will showl into your ass and I want to see you are staying calmed down!