Agree with Caleb Williams - Aaron Rodgers comparison? | NFL | Speak
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- On Keyshawn Johnson's podcast All Facts No Breaks, NFL veteran Marcedes Lewis compared Bears rookie QB Caleb Williams to Aaron Rodgers saying he's 'a little Rodgers-esque'. Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, Joy Taylor and James Jones weigh in on the comparison and expectations for Caleb.
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I feel like if James wasn’t a cool dude. He’d be calling shady out about how he got his rings
That's how Skip Bayless ended his career, taking low blows at the person on the other side of the table, rather than attacking their opinion.
@@KennyGrinols I agree lucky James a good dude. But shady played the game the way he hanging on the value of rings he should understand that one player don’t win you a ring
Bro shady was a 10 times better player then James was who cares how he got his rings at the end of his career he was his teams main offensive focus when he was playing in his prime
@@almonjoseph4382 You ain’t gotta tell me nothing bout shady bro he was my favorite RB once upon a time. But who was better in their prime wasn’t the point, you clearly missed it.
But “ Who cares how he got his rings?” A lot of people. They were participation rings. That’s the point. He uses rings so much as the qualifier for who can and can’t sit at a table with who. Like he don’t realize you can be the best and not get a ring on the other hand you can do Little to nothing. In his case actually nothing and get a ring. His 2 rings hold no value compared to ARods 1 ring.
James should just tell Shady I wish you could’ve experienced being a key contributor in winning a Superbowl. Mic drop.
He won’t do that, it would humiliate McCoy, who’s already a clown btw🤣💀
And say to joy “and your brother never won a championship” because what they did was unnecessary asf. Like her bringing up Brady for no reason and what not like what?? I get if they think he’s overrated but now yall just act like yall hate the dude
Please oh please James. Please say that to Shady. Please ask him what his stats were in each Superbowl "win".
Yes he should. It would hurt his feelings and crush him. He won't even have a response after that. James would shut him down with that
@@MrAviam2010 cause shady talk about Rodgers 1 sb win like he was the reason he won either Super Bowl he was in. Notice shady says appearance now, not win. Media have their narratives they have to run with.
Shady McCoy how you get 2 Super Bowls Rings without even playing
Facts!!😂
He still got em🤷🏾♂️🤣
@@evileyevalaus I don’t even really put them behind his name like everybody knows he didn’t do anything he just has them to say I have one but he didn’t WIN one
I don't really hear Shady bragging about his rings though. Maybe I'm missing something. I feel like Acho brings them up way too much and puts a spotlight on that doesn't need to be there
Joy hops on whatever bs shady concocts she doesn’t have a thoughtful point ever
Why do shady and joy hate Rodgers so much?? Like it’s starting to get annoying
Shady hates Rodgers because he played with Tom. Joy hates Rodgers because Shady hates Rodgers.
@@omgerrrick5344💯😭
@@omgerrrick5344 he thinks hes overrated and joy says ar is 40 and had a previous injury, hope you enjoyed you're likes tho
@@omgerrrick5344 100%
@@sonseed7541 glazing everywhere you go 😂😂
Wait a Rodgers teammate not hating him? Hmmm I wonder what happened to all these narratives about Rodgers being a bad leader and person 😂
One out of how many???
@@Officially_Unofficial1how many are they?
@@Officially_Unofficial1it’s waaay more than 1. Good definitely outweighs the bad. Don’t be brainwashed by the media painting their narratives
@@Officially_Unofficial1 bud their are more people talking good about him than their ever were bad 🤣 you’re such a social media clown
You can like a person but that doesn't make them a good leader
How about Shady how did you get 2 rings and you didnt earn them at all?
hes a RB wheres barry sanders rings?🫣🫣
@@sonseed7541silly comparison
@@sonseed7541lol what? He was busy carrying a horrible franchise. While shady got two rings for SBs he didn't even play in. Totally the same....
SOOO TRUE!
@@zackhurwitz9441 You are so correct, but why do Stafford never get the same respect then? I know he had Megatron, but those teams where also bad bad.
The disrespect that Joy and Shady have for Aaron Rogers is insane. For Shady, reason Rogers only has one superbowl appearance is because Greenbay had the worst rated defense and special teams in the playoffs in the times they played. Brady had a defensive guru almost his whole career and people forget how many games were won off Adan Veneteri's leg
Bro I keep telling people the same thing. In bradys 22 or 23 year career, he had a top 10 defense 17 times. Rodgers had a top 10 defense just 3 times in his whole career. 1 of the 3 times he won a superbowl. Even mahomes has already had a top 10 defense 4 time's. Give rodgers a top 10 defense = superbowl
Rodgers had some of the most unlucky breaks of all time and Brady has had some of the most lucky breaks of all time
Who drove the team down the field for the kicker to make the field goals? Y’all hatred for certain quarterbacks is insane
@@TYreLL0416quit being defensive, multiple things can be true
@@navyglass1242 Wait a minute now, aside from last year, what other time has Mahomes had a top 10 defense? Don't just say things to say things.
Shady could have some good points if he took his emotions out of it a little and was more flexible with listening to others. And joy just does not know football. It’s mad cringe. If you replaced joy, I think this could be a special show.
Why does A-Rod only have 1 ring. Because it’s a team sport duhh tf? Back when the quote was “ Defense wins championship” and Tom had Arguably the best Defensive mind as his head coach. How many top 5 defenses is that through those 7 rings?
I bet you're one of those ppl that say Dak or Lamar are overrated
@@abezzzy121 Yea choose your bets wisely. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. How exactly did you come to that conclusion again? 🤔
@@1000youngstunnaPatriots have had a top 10 defense and Belichick the last 4 seasons that was suppose to be all you need to win Super Bowls I thought
I’m a Brady fan and I agree with you
@@davis2k1234 Even with a trash offense he was still kicking out top 10 defenses that alone says a lot but go ahead and discredit like Brady lit up every super bowls smh
This shows seems they upset he didn’t say Brady.
Only joy and shady cause they haters
@@ThatsCrazyBro3752I see that. They took a Caleb and Rodgers show made it about Brady. They just need to understand he’s not everybody’s favorite player or goat.
Why does Brady need to be brought up every time Rodgers is. Shady & Joy defending Brady when no one was hating on him. Acting like you can’t praise both Rodgers and Brady.
Aaron Rodgers’ talent can’t be taught. He, himself, is different.
What Joy and Shady are saying is you can teach someone to be Tom Brady 😏
Unfortunately, winning a Super Bowl is a team sport and as a Packer fan, it absolutely kills me that he doesn’t have more rings because HE deserved more.
@@ashhle_y I always felt his final years in Green Bay upper management set him up for failure. they were content being content they really didn't want him to win a championship that's why they never got more offensive weapons(Jones Adams n arod literally willed that team to what was is 3 consecutive13 win seasons n 2 NFC championship games) because they wanted to move on from him.
Facts
he doesnt deserve more, he didnt earn it LOL
How soon we forget how elite Aaron was in his prime. These guys are making it seem like he was bum his entire career 😂
Shady how you steal 2 Super Bowls Rings
Joy's and Shady's Brady worship is sickening smh. They're delusional about dude. Making the show unwatchable at times. Tom had the best situation of any QB ever. The coach the defense and the cheating included for 20yrs. Put all them guys in a draft where they go to any team with any coach and no one is taking Brady over at least 15 of the all time great QBs.
Does anyone ever wonder how Joy got her job?
Throat goat lol
you could ask that same question about mccoy, good player, too much of a clown for being in front of a camera...
@@alejandrogaray6684Joy ain’t going to let you hit lil bro.
Twins!!
@@yngaustinWhat are you talking about?
Mike Daniels former pro bowl DT for the Packers played for the Bengals in 2020 and he compared Burrow to Rodgers. He called him baby Aaron. And Joe liked that because Rodgers is great.
Guys, I know you have a show and you need to produce content, but it is really absurd to compare a player that has never played a down in the NFL with a QB who has proved his abilities for longer than a decade. Williams may surpass Rodgers. Nonetheless, you can't compare a 'hope' player with a proven player.
I agree and hope He does good!...But USC hasn't put out good quarterbacks for over 20 years. Bears need to be better about building their offense to be more consistent!
2:11
Do they ask you how you got 2 rings & didn't even check in the game 😅😅😅
The longer this show stays on the more it feels like an emotion show or an argument podcast. This is supposed to be a debate show respect others opinion and keep it moving.
Shady said that confetti dropping 7 times! I'm weak!!
Rodgers broke the mold for QBs. Everyone wanna be like Rodgers, extend the play and make those off platform throws into tight windows. I think I’ve heard more young QBs say they molded their game after Rodgers than other QBs
Shady about to go out like skip and shannon getting heated over brady
Ever since the Covid ordeal ESPN and fox have had it out for arod 😂 crazy how fast the narrative changed. Get over it
Shady is a bigger personality on this show and James knows it. Love or hate him, theres a pecking order so i think thats why he lets this ish slide. James could fold up Shady like a package and drop him on his head fr if it wasnt for this show and they was in the street😅
Please get rid of Joy
she is str8 stupid
Tom Brady is the Tim Duncan Of the NFL
Tom Brady is the Chef Boyardee of the NFL
Joy and shady working my nerves man 😭😭 what qb tape have they’ve been watching!
Aaron Rodgers didn’t start for a while to actually grow and learn with not too much pressure….caleb does not have that luxury most likely it will be the reason for his rocky career….most QBs can’t just hit the ground rolling with constant success in the NFL
2:12 lowkey outta pocket but shady hilarious 😂😂
What James need to tell Joy is how many superbowls have the Dolphins when her brother was playing or why do they keep saying Mike Tomlin wins with less. Tell me again when was his last Superbowl win?
Joy, this is why women talking about men atheltics gets weird. Tom was an athlete because he played an athletic sport. He was in no way athletic himself, thats why his dominance over atheltic OBs is so amazing
Shady talks a lot of super bowls as if you did anything for his 2. He played zero snaps lmao
I really hope rodgers balls out this season because Joy and Shady stay talking out of the side of their mouth about him .... they forgot how good he can be/is
Joy sitting back, enjoying the off-topic conversation she started lol
Tom wasn’t the prettiest thrower but he was a great leader and Iq
Tom had a great ball. Just because Aaron had the “prettiest” ball. Doesn’t mean Tom’s throws weren’t great.
Joy just be talking lol
Shady didn’t even play with Tom. he practiced with him.
Aaron Rogers had Brett Favre to learn from , Caleb Williams has Brett Rypien
They be hating on ARod, personally ARod is the truth!
Why is there always a need to compare players that haven’t played to players that have played?
It’s called play style and ceiling of what a play can be and looks like duh
@@Devin-lw7hv it's called being bored and having nothing else to talk about. They need to fill space somehow.
He played in college whachu mean lol
Cause most people copy players that they admire
@@tylerprince3496what should they talk about??
Ok, Joy and Shady we get it rodgers has one Super Bowl we and everybody who watch football know Tom Brady is the greatest QB ever. Like why do that? So now when every time somebody give Rodger’s a compliment we gotta throw 1 ring in his face we all know this. The media sucks the fun out of debates when we just skip to rings. Like 2 days ago when the player compared arod to mj and kobe which I think he was just talking from a talent perspective for years before Pat Mahomes we've been saying AROD is the greatest talent at the QB position we've ever seen. Now all of a sudden, we don't know what that means? This show love Caleb so much he even said his favorite player was Aaron Rodger’s so I don’t know why these show act surprised when players give him compliments. 😂 cant make this ish up 🤦🏼♂️
Brady stans are the most delusional i have ever seen.its easy to see what james jones tryna say but these guys are fanboying brady so hard
Why y'all don't understand it's a team sport.
Shady b talking like he won something??? He didn’t get no tic on cheifs or with bucs where his rings come from lol he ain’t contribute to those rings
Last episode Joy got away with saying talent is more than just physical, and none of the guys corrected her, and now today shes still trying to make this inccorect point.
Talent, in terms of athletes, is 100% physical and mental. Winning superbowls is not a talent, being able to rainbow a ball 70 yards in the air to the perfect spot needed to secure the game winning TD is. Rodgers has the most talented arm ever. Her effort to take that away from him by expanding the definition of talent to ambigous measureables like winning superbowls is so strange. Call Tom the GOAT all you want, do not call him the most talented; youll get laughted at by anyone whos played the game, like the boys were laughing at her last episode when she started this idea.
It’s actually funny cause JJ said the same thing about Carr when he was in Oakland. Called him Baby Rodgers.
I realized shady only reference winning when it comes to ARod but always glorify Josh Allen for his abilities and would always say he and Pat are the two best.
That’s a bar shady did “ just cuz you the most talented doesn’t mean your the best” say that for the people in the back
What is it that Joy doesn't understand about Brady? He was drafted in the 6th round to be a backup. He became Tom Brady. But going by his athleticism, if you didn't know what he ended up being, he would always be a late rounds pick. That's what gave him such a chip on his shoulder.
Yeah I listened to it perplexed that she couldn’t understand what they were saying as far as different talent levels not who is better.
He’s a 6 5 QB with a great arm. Yeah he slow. But who cares?
It’s literally unbearable how shady and joy can’t grasp the concept of what they mean by physical talent 😭 what they are saying that if Tom Brady‘s body was replaced with an Aaron Rodger’s body, or to make it more understandable, Josh Allen’s body, or any quarterback with desired physical attributes, Tom Brady probably would have won every single Super Bowl he went to, because he didn’t win the physical gifts lottery, which is why he was drafted so late and wasn’t any scouts first pick. that’s what they are saying about physical talent. Not Aaron Rodgers is the greatest of all time because he was more gifted physically.
Did Shady just compare Brady to Jesus???? 😂😂😂😂 the glaze is unbelievable
Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. of Nazareth
I talk fast to out of passion tell shady to take three deep breaths before it’s.. his take and I bet he light this show up!! He has the best takes!!
Does Shady ever lose an argument? 😄😄😄
I’m sorry but whenever there’s an Aaron Rodger’s topic. That guy on the end. I completely stop listening to anything he says. He completely incapable of being bias of Aaron aRodger. So as far as I’m concerned he can’t be taken seriously.
Yea shady is terrible
Hmmmm lets compare. One has 59,000 yards, 475 TDs to only 105 INTs, a 103.6 career passer rating and a Superbowl win on his way to being a unanimous first ballot HOFr and the other has never thrown a pass in the NFL..... YUP they are the same.
shady n joy make this show off brandish
It’s so sad what this show has become since Whitlock and Wiley left. Like wtf
It would be good to see them all together again.
"Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history just because he throws the prettiest spiral"!!!💯💯💯
4x mvp clown🤣🤣
🤡 💯
Pure arm talent, Jeff George would sleep Aaron Rogers...c'mon.
Joy gets me soo angryyy brooo, do you have eyessss brady PHYSICALLY IS NOT MAHOMES RODGERS ALLEN CLEARLY, and that's not a bad thing he's the GOAT
Shady’s “James jones needs to find Jesus aka Tom Brady and be saved” was one of the best TV moments ever man 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shady is a TV GOAT
Shady and Joy make these conversations so hard for no reason smh
I agree with Shady....but come on family....quit picking on James...😅
Apparently Joy is struggling to discern the difference between a football athlete and an “athletes” who plays football… 🤔
Shady on Rodgers nuts about superbowls. Shady wouldn’t have any rings if he wasn’t on the Bucs or chiefs with 2 of the greatest QBs in history. At least Rodgers and James contributed to their superbowl. Shady was a BENCH ROLE PLAYER
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t they doing this same type of stuff when Tebow was drafted ?
Joy was laying it on Thick for Brady. As if Brady needs more Slurp!!!! 😂
Okay shady i see dawg keeping the hair cut fresh after Monday, yall do look at the comments i see
Why is it never brought up that Brady had a phenomenal defense with him every year, a head coach who knew every trick in the book AND had an organization that completely supported him.
Mediocre QB's have won Superbowls with those added benefits.
Do people understand it's a team sport.
Literally you can have 2 replicas of tom.ans because of the circumstances in a career one is the goat ans the other is maybe just a pro bowler 2-3 times and maybe goes to the Superbowl.
If tom was dragted by a bad organization like the lions he probably doesn't win anything in his career.
I still don't understand why people think winning is the be and end all.
It's important but their are so many more factors in play that any single player can control
“I was lost now I’m found” 😂😂😂
James Jones has been a breath of fresh air and he's a true friend of Aaron Rodgers
I think Aaron’s problem was that he had so much talent that he actually crippled the players around him in a way I think that’s the problem
Shady you was benched for them two superbowls even the one with your Boy Brady 😂😂😂
I don't see your point😭🤣 does he or does he not have 2 rings?
@@evileyevalaus man shut up because everyone Ring is equal period if you didn’t play and was Benched you should not be talking about Championships the way he does..
@@moe3496 does he or does he not have 2 championship rings? Because that means he's a champion if he does which means he can talk about championships all he wants and you argued against yourself saying all rings are equal because then it wouldn't matter if he was on the bench for em or not😭🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@evileyevalaus i said not equal Dixk head
Somebody needs to remind Shady what his stats were in those “Super Bowl” he won… he can’t even hold one of Rodgers nuts.
Shady and Joy can’t say positive things about Aaron Rogers more than 5 secs 😂
If Joy was a man talking like that they would not keep him on the show.
I’ve seen people say he’s the next Mahomes so how is Aaron Rogers a bad the hate is crazy Joy and Shady are crazy
Ones a choke, the others a winner!
What are we talking about??!!
Brady is the greatest! We have Jones and Acho, mediocre players judging thee great!
Stop it!
What a joke. Compared a superbowl winner to a rookie. That was the most disrespect to Rodgers.
Saying the 7 time Super Bowl champ is the best isn’t glazing.
“You need to find Tom” 🤣
I hate how Joy try to act soooo clueless like she don’t know what they mean when it comes to talent and athletic ability when it come to Brady. Brady was different, he did it a different way. Tell her to ask her nephew if there’s anyone on his team that’s saying “yo I want to be athletic like Tom Brady”. Stop being slow.
Sometimes i love how Shady talks about those Super Bowls years he had with Mahomes and Brady.
Please show me his highlights in those post seasons. LOL.
He had 0 yards in those post seasons.
He always tells JJ try to play with good QB. Atleast JJ was a partof his Super Bowl. You should try that Shady.
Brady got a lot of Superbowl rings but that's earned by the organization
Rogers won more League MVPs than Brady that's earned by the player alone.
So when you compare players individually compare individual accomplishments not team accomplishments
Y’all forget those wins are team wins, MVPs are individual accomplishments. Some of those Patriots Superbowl wins were the defense especially against ATL. Patriots defense don’t get enough credit.
Thank you!!! I’m a falcons fan. We went into that superbowl as the the Number 1 offense and 29th defense. While the pats had a top 5 offense and top 3 defense smh. We get Brady is the GOAT of winning but there’s are a lot of people who can agree talent wise there are others more talented
No Wins are a QB stat according to the NFL only QB and HC gets W/L
MVPs are team accomplishments as well. Not as much as wins but you need a good team to win mvp
@@terronpenny3116 ehhh Not really Matt Ryan won MVP in 2016. And his defense was ranked 29th in the league 🤮. It took high scoring games and a couple game winning drives. As a team they weren’t good Offensively they were the best in the league led by the MVP. The team did I not get him MVP
@@1000youngstunna you think his stats would have been the same without Julio on the team? Or Kyle shanahan calling plays?
Shady looking like a sad hater
Someone ask Lesean Mccoy how many yards did he have combined in his superbowl appearances.
Only has 1 superbowl appearance cause his defense has given up 33.6 ppg in the playoffs. Did you know that McCoy?
All of a sudden everybody knows what "talented" means
I’m soooo fkn tired of shady and hot hating on GOAT Rodgers shii is fkn annoying 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I want Joy and Shady to stop being dense
Tom Brady was 6-4 and could throw a rocket with a 70 yard hang time in air plus he ja’s quick feet in the pocket . We gotta actually watch film and stop just thinking he did it on “intangibles “ . He was a beast at Michigan it’s only because of Lloyd Carr 2 OB system he fell in draft. Tom was like THAT! Look what he did with Randy and Gronk . Smh
If Tom Brady's defenses gave up 30, 40, and 50 points in the playoffs he would not have seven rings. Brady is the GOAT because of his leadership, but his defenses were the key to his seven rings. Aaron Rodgers' playoff stats look like an MVP season, but his defenses and special teams failed him repeatedly. It's bad faith to act like it's not true. It's so misleading.
Shady is halarious James and Acho as his straight men works
Shady wasn’t the guy when he got them super bowls along for the ride
Talent is not just physical thats only half of it tom was one of the most accurate passers period and the smartest thats just fact he also did not have offense like arron had in some of his superbowls
Brady progression as a QB is unnatural due to the fact bill groomed him through Spygate his first 7 seasons.
It would be crazy if Rodgers Mahomes,Joe burrow and Josh Allen were groom that way...They would be Peyton Manning'esqe in terms dissecting defenses.
Shady to being Shady. It's why Rodgers only have one Superbowl
Do anybody remember the jay cutler hype with a great arm for Chicago