Hey go ahead and figure it out, then record your own video, edit it, and upload it to RUclips! Let's not worry about people needed to make a living, how ridiculous!
shot 300 rounds with glock 43x non mos with holosun 507k and i had zero issues 0 failore to load or jams. so i got lucky. i use the s15+5 extensions i got 2 of em both with extensions. they work amazing for me 20+1 in a cc iwb is just insane
It’s not the platform. Measure the opening of the magazine. You want the front on a metal magazine to be around one to two thousandths larger than the rear of the opening. The malfunction is caused by the follower getting caught or dragging as it reaches the top of the magazine. You see this a lot in race guns. There’s always a little tuning required to make everything play nice together. Great video. Keep up the great work.
This is exactly the issue I’m having with my gen 3 magazine, I actually took it apart and carefully sanded the front left side of the grey plastic follower and they are now working perfectly. Annoying that it’s the 3rd gen of these and still problems.
@@Redsox3600Doubt that would work: spring tension (if you use the glock spring and follower), follower not fitting the SA spring or glock follower not fitting sa mag at all.
I have three Gen 3, changed the mag release to the one that came with the mags, have fired hundreds through all three, no issues at all since the start. FMJ of four types including +P military, Federal HST 124gr +P. All 100%. I have left the mags loaded for months at a time with no changes.
That was supposed to come out april of 2022. PSA always takes forever to release stuff and there quality can be questionable. The design also looks like a nightmare and the only thing that was shown was a prototype. Is there gonna be a lip where the metal and polymer meet? Its not like a factory mag where the plastic forms a complete structure. Gonna be hard to form them together in such a limited space for 15 and having space for the depth of the oem catch. That's not considering the tolerances of the 2 parts. All that potential for issues just to be able to run the factory mags also? Thats not the main problem. Ill be waiting and waiting for them to come out, reliability being field tested without any ftf in any production mags. But im not holding my breath.
I did swap out to a metal mag release which works perfectly w/ the Shield Arms. I did notice the original Glock 43X polymer mags now don't run as smoothly, but that's ok since I'm not going back to them. @@juanellis4044
The gen 2's I bought were single shot mags and sat for about 16-17 months in a closet until shield swapped them for the gen 3 mags. I ran 50 through all three and one ran perfect, one a single failure, one had two. All three failures were what you showed with the round just not quite going in. A slap on the bottom and all three jams cleared. I'll be testing more but already better than my single shot jam o matic gen 2's. OEM for the win for 100% but so far the gen 3 is promising compared to the gen 2.
It makes me wonder if the surface finish is causing the issue. I've not picked up the g3 but it appears to be less slick which could mean that the same spring tension won't push the follower up as fast. This would also be consistent with the break in period as the inside of the mag would be rubbed and smoothed out a little. The fact that the follower can't be made tall enough to be "anti-tilt" also means that spring pressure is extra important. Without adequate force pushing on the front of the follower, a nosedive is definitely possible
I have the SA mags, PSA and ETS mags for the Glock 48. All have work flawless. I have more of the SA mags than than the other two, and the SA mags are my main mags I use in my 48.
I've had my SA and PSA mags fail on me (even have a video of the latter), so I can't for the life of me understand the lack of consistency each have between different people
i trust my s15 gen 2s. switching mags takes the mag and like 100 rounds of ammo at the least for me to trust it so i ain switching shit cuz i dont got the ammo for all that shit😂
@@CoolKid-mg9bo PSA actually addresses the issues whenever customers have problems. Not send the issue back to you and tell you they worked fine for them. Then re-release a 3rd gen and change the design and manufacture. Plus I’ve already wasted over $200 in mags and ammo w/ SA how much worst can it get? Which 15rd mags are you referring to, the MAGPUL Glock mags??
@@ProactiveDefenseLLC man I hear you still don’t guarantee they won’t have issues lol and obviously shield arms is addressing their issues if they’ve created 3 versions of this mag.
Thanks but I'll probably skip the gen 3's and wait for their gen 15's to come out before I decide to try them. Maybe by then it will be a 10 round steel lined polymer mag that actually works. 😏
I found the problem to be as the round is brought forward by the slide, the bullet's casing at the neck where the bullet sits gets caught on the front edge of the Shield Arms S15 magazine. This leads to the fact that after shooting many rounds through the firearm the S15 magazine front edge will wear down from repeatedly striking the casing's edge. I can repeat this. I filed my front edge down.
Psa micro dagger mags are coming hear they are more reliable a employee put 700 rounds through it no jams so far and you can use the factory mag release
Whenever I buy new pistol magazines I take them apart oil the inside of them and use a brass brush and scrub them clean. Then I degrease them and then use them. Small guns don’t need all those aftermarket upgrades, people are trying to go cheap using upgrades designed for full size pistols. My S15 magazines haven’t given me any issues weather the gen2 or gen3 version I was hang up free.
THIS. Lemme tell you, I’ve a ton invested in the Glock slimline platform and I carry OEM mags because of the absolute garbage rep S15’s have. Just not worth replacing OEM parts, like the mag catch, to carry mags that should be relegated to range day fun.
@@Dixieland1859 the reliability is there. These S15 gen2 mags have probably been the most reliable I’ve had in any mag cartridge. 100%! Just put in the correct STEEL mag catch. My gen2 mags seat perfectly every time in the mag well because I’ve had the correct STEEL mag catch in from the start.
@@michaelhodges8312 worth a shot but looks like all the Gen 2’s are sold out and will probably be back filled by the 3’s. Plan on picking a couple up to test (with the steel release) but I’m going to need some flawless runs before I consider for carry.
@@Dixieland1859 well, good luck on that. I can just say the premium latest SA steel mag catch is the answer for the SA gen2 mags. Based on the experience I’ve had, the SA gen2 mags are awesome in my 43X. Glad I got 4 of them.
That is why I would opt for the P365 or Shield Plus over the 43X. If you have to put in more aftermarket parts on a sub- compact carry, I would not even bother getting it.
The Sig P365 XMACRO has made the shield mag + 43X obsolete in my opinion. You can carry 17 rounds in the same size gun, but you don't sacrifice any reliability. During the summer months when you need a smaller gun, you can just swap the grip frame to the standard p365 one.
I'll tell you what- The glock 43X is one of the top carry pistols and if they can get this 15 round mag working - it will be arguably the best. But the Springfield Hellcat will still be the #1 choice for me since it is smaller, feels solid, and holds more rounds from factory and with smaller mag options. If you can, buy them both :)
Dudes, I just can’t. I’ve never purchased not one S15 mag, but because all I’ve seen/heard they have been a no go for me since I started carrying my 43X/48 MOS’. And believe me, I’d do anything for more rounds. I took Fieldcraft’s Pistol course (effin garbage course) with the 43x and got so tired of reloading and reloading. This has caused me to change my edc to my G19/17/34’s. I hope Glock ends up coming out with an OEM solution for more rounds in that platform, but until then I’ll have to sacrifice concealability for more rounds carried.
Hell, I’m still using my Gen 1s cause I haven’t had any issues with them. I had them since December 2020. I have a Gen 2 I have yet to open and try out
My gen 1's have been flawless for years now, I had wanted to get more but noticed that many people seem to behaving issues so waiting to see what happens. Thanks for the review
I have almost 2000 rounds through them, i have heard that many people said if you use a suppressor with the pistol it jams easier..... i have had no issues with 4 different mags....
I’m having the same fail to feed issue with my Gen 2’s. Disappointed to say the least. I don’t want to go back to factory round capacity but I don’t trust the s15 mags.
Great information👍🏻 I still not convinced about 95% efficacy -approx 1.4 malfunctions every other 15 rd magazine- very far from Glock Perfection Standards. Agree about waiting for S15 Gen 4 release.
Sorry man they kinda fell by the wayside haha I may do more tests but it’s hard to even say anything because they are so unpredictable. They may not work in my build but they might work perfect in yours so it’s a toss up 😮💨🫠 it’s almost worth buying them just to see
@@GUNMENusa haha you're good. and yeah you're right about buying just to see. i will probably end up doing so, but on the other hand, i would probably be constantly plagued by worries of issues no matter how many rounds i got through clean. have you used the psa 15 round mag? cant remember.
@@adamfarag9971haha yeah I did try them and I actually really like them but I did run into only a couple jams that made me worried haha. But I need to do more tests on those too 🫠
seems like similar comments coming from many reviewers/users on youtube/reddit for gen3 as much as gen2.. even though they changed manufacturer maybe there's still QC issues going on where some people win the lottery and others don't. I'm getting gen3 on my g43x mos and will be trying out at least 1k rounds to see if it's worth carrying. if there's any issues, not worth risking my life on it for +5 cap. if it jams once that could mean death
Can you do a review on the PSA micro 15 round mags that supposedly work with the 43x? I know PSA has a… not so great… reputation and I’m skeptical. But so far I’ve only heard good things. Plus they’re cheap and don’t require an aftermarket metal mag release. Could be the 15 round 43x magazine solution we have all been hoping for.
Just got my Gen 3 starter kit with 3 mags and a metal release. Swapped out the release… popped in a new mag with hollow points. Failed to battery… second mag failed to battery… third mag with FMJ’s worked fine. I’m kind of freaked out right now and wondering if I just leave them sitting fully loaded they will break in after a few trips to the range.
The main problem people have with them can be fixed, from what i've seen, by simply loosening the screws on your optic. I've heard they can cause issued with feeding if it's on too tight.
Thankfully I have not had any issues with my Gen 2s. I haven't used my Gen 2 with the 5 round mag extension yet, but I'm trying to be optimistic. I believe it could be the possibility of them using a new US manufacturer and the new tooling they said has been added.
The gen ones would give me a nose dive malfunction once every 200 rounds or so.The Gen twos have worked perfect through almost 4000 rounds. I have 10 to 12 or more gen twos. I have no interest in the GEN threes at all.
Having the same issue. After several hundred round break in with FMJ's with minor issues I proceeded to load up my carry hollow points consisting of Speer Gold Dots and Hornady FTX. Inserting a full mag into the pistol and proceeding to chamber a round it jams every time on the feed ramp, almost like the follower is too flat. My guess it that they corrected the "play" in the mag with the bumps on the back which may have pitched the mag slightly forward, if they kept the same follower angle as the previous gens I could see where it would nose the round down slightly. I think if they could pay specific attention to the follower angle and make a correction these could be great mags. All 3 of my gen 3 mags are going back to Shield Arms. Will post an update when I know something more. I do have the metal mag release as well, my G48 and 43X are stock, issue with both guns and all 3 mags.
Buy PSA micro dagger mags you don’t have to modify your pistol to use them and they are cheaper. But if you have a RUclips channel like GUNMEN does shield will give you mags and pay you to use and show off their mags. A working man who doesn’t get paid should use PSA
Because the M&P Shield Plus and the P365 are using stack-and-a-half magazines out of the box. They already do what Shield Arms is doing in these mags for Glocks that are single stack OEM.
I use it since day 1, not a single issue, about 600+ rounds. about 250 from that number were HSTs 124 P+ from federal I have only gen 1 & 2 mags I see how the issue could happen, you literally have to push magazine slowly and under specific angle to make it happen, so the round remains/sits under the slide. It can be done, but you literally must put an effort. Any slight movement and round slides in a front of the slide removing the issue by itself. it seems like they tried to eliminate that in gen 3 with bulging/bumps at the back.... but f.. up something else :) I see they changed geometry of the feeding lips in gen3 causing the round to "dive", but this probably unintentional change done by the contractor like it happened with a lot of guns going to a diff. manufacturer Anyway, non professional work btw you MUST use "PREMIUM" magazine button, which is made of steel. The aluminum one will get sheared by magazine making it another point for a problem. The NO-go with plastic(OEM) for sure in my case, if I knew about SIG 365 XMACRO before I upgraded from 43x to 43x MOS, I would go to SIG for sure (even thought I didn't have any firing issues at all). I consider required magazine release change as an issue :)s
I bought 4 of the GEN 2s and really hated them. Then, I replaced the mag release button with a shield button. Since then, the mags are flawless and I am happy I have them. Next, I would like to find a holster for the Safariland qls lock system.
@@KhanTrav You aren't out of the clear yet. The source of the Shield mag malfunctions isn't the mag catch. Its the thiness of the mag tube itself. The Glock mags cause cartridges to sit further forward, so they are property picked up by the slide. The cartridges sit too far back on the Shield mags, so they butt up against the slide.
Just don’t cut corners when upgrading your Glock 43x. Use the S15 metal mag catch. If you’re running a red dot, make sure your bolt/screw on the right of the dot does not come in contact with the extractor plunger. Most importantly, the don’t treat the 43x like a Glock 19.
Hey y’all! I’m not speaking on behalf of anyone with this comment. But this channel is incredibly technical, way more than other channels out there. A LOT goes into making these videos. These videos are also not monetized (you can imagine why, but it starts with g and ends with s ). So the Patreon is a way to help offset the lack of RUclips monetization so he can keep bringing us amazing content. Cheers y’all and have a great day🤘🏻
@@Lemur_Charlie exactly. I like his show but I'm old and have a hard enough time with getting this RUclips on this phone. Good luck to the young fellow anyway
The PSA mags are likely to have the same issues the shield mags do in the g43x/g48. I don’t understand why both of these companies have chosen to try and locate/restrain the magazine differently than Glock does. Glock mags all have a shelf on them on the upper left side that interfaces with the frame and forces the mag into the correct position. Neither shield arms nor PSA have that on their mags.
@@bma8013 thanks for the info. I didn’t know about the shelf thing. I had a gen 2 s15 mag that was nothing but trouble from the first time I used it in my 43x MOS. I’m still gonna give the psa a try and hope they are good to go. 🤞
@Bma801 interesting. The little I have seen on the psa mags has been a quick shot in a video. Looks like a hybrid with polymer in the front half and steel in the rear. The polymer section interfaces with the mag release without allowing the mag release to interfere with the magazine spring unlike the shield mags. Still interested to see how they will perform if ever released...
I really hope someone gets these figured out cause only jams occasionally is not exactly great ,at Sig mag prices too even though the sig is alot more expensive all round in my neck of the woods i either gonna have get a 43x and run oem glock mags or save for a 365 xl or something and pay the extra for Sig stuff 😂
Obviously the problem was their magazines, regardless of variations with Glock frames. Glocks work with OEM magazines, reliably. Shield Arms can make any excuse they want, but if they were serious about solving the problem, they would have matched OEM spec instead of adding ugly rivets that are going to wear away at your plastic frame over time & cause another problem. They just want to push another product for us to waste money on before PSA drops their micro-dagger magazines and takes over their market share.
After 35 years and thousands of rounds through various Glock pistols, the Glock platform is my go-to defensive carry firearm. I love firearms of many types so not a "fanboy". But for serious purposes my experience has always brought me back to one Glosck or another over the years. NEVER had a mag related malfunction with stock Glock mags. I had high hopes for the S15 mags. On paper, they sound great after all. However, after a couple of mag related malfunctions with the S15 mags I'm a HARD no-go with them. And while the capacity advantage of the Shield mags looks awesome on paper, ANY decrease in reliability of my defensive firearms is unacceptable. I paid way too much for two S15 mags that are now just paperweights. Fine for range use, but who needs expensive mags for range use?? Good for stoppage clearance drills I suppose... I'd NEVER trust my life to ANY aftermarket Glock mag. Magazines are the heart of any semiautomatic firearm. Factory Glock mags are the most reliable I have ever used in any firearm in well over 45 years of shooting. In my experience, deviating from a proven design for unnecessary capacity considerations is just not worth it. There is a reason that Glock made the G48 with 10 rounds rather than 15... The tolerances and physics just aren't there in the 48 grip's dimensions for that capacity AND still provide 100% reliability. RELIABILITY is what Glock has been about for damn near 40 years... Change their designs at your own risk. In the real world, if you can't handle a situation with 10-11 rounds, do you really think 5 more will make a substantial difference? Are you willing to sacrifice the stock 100% reliability to gain the dubious advantages provided by the few additional rounds? Not me...
Honestly, Glock is so far behind the industry with this stuff. It's enough to make me switch from Glock, which I've been a Glock shooter my entire life, to another brand. Capacity is the name of the game in CC right now and Glock just doesn't seem to be making effort to keep up. I hope Shield arms gets this figured out, but we shouldn't need aftermarket companies to fix a design limitation.
I’m interested in seeing what goes on shield arms wants me to send them my gen 2 mags in return they send me gen 3 mags I’m curious my gen 2 have been flawless
New gun gen5 new S15 gen3 brass steel case nickel case hollow point low enforcement p+++ or so mixed all together in one mag ZERO NON issues. Sorry all of you guys your glocks are broken or just will not work with that one specific magazine you have. I noticed a lot of problems especially with machines when I did reenactment we shared magazines some didn’t work with my MPs but worked on my friend
The shield arms saga continues. They try so hard and yet... Mine work though, but do not work in one of my 43x's reliably. The one they don't work 100% in has an aftermarket slide...they work with the oem slide on that same frame.
“I did find the cure to that issue which the answer can be found on my Patreon”
Thanks for giving me an early red flag.
Hey go ahead and figure it out, then record your own video, edit it, and upload it to RUclips! Let's not worry about people needed to make a living, how ridiculous!
shot 300 rounds with glock 43x non mos with holosun 507k and i had zero issues 0 failore to load or jams. so i got lucky. i use the s15+5 extensions i got 2 of em both with extensions. they work amazing for me 20+1 in a cc iwb is just insane
It’s not the platform. Measure the opening of the magazine. You want the front on a metal magazine to be around one to two thousandths larger than the rear of the opening. The malfunction is caused by the follower getting caught or dragging as it reaches the top of the magazine. You see this a lot in race guns. There’s always a little tuning required to make everything play nice together. Great video. Keep up the great work.
This is exactly the issue I’m having with my gen 3 magazine, I actually took it apart and carefully sanded the front left side of the grey plastic follower and they are now working perfectly. Annoying that it’s the 3rd gen of these and still problems.
Could you just put the Glock follower on the Shield mags to prevent that from being an issue?
@@Redsox3600Doubt that would work: spring tension (if you use the glock spring and follower), follower not fitting the SA spring or glock follower not fitting sa mag at all.
I have three Gen 3, changed the mag release to the one that came with the mags, have fired hundreds through all three, no issues at all since the start. FMJ of four types including +P military, Federal HST 124gr +P. All 100%. I have left the mags loaded for months at a time with no changes.
Wtf is +p military? 😂
I'm waiting for PSA's 15 rnd mag solution. It's a hybrid polymer/metal mag that doesn't require you to swap out your mag release.
so basically a glock mag limited to 10rds due to internal structure?
@@DillIshOn No. look it up. I’m also pretty sure I said 15 not 10.
@@DillIshOn idiot he said 15
That was supposed to come out april of 2022. PSA always takes forever to release stuff and there quality can be questionable. The design also looks like a nightmare and the only thing that was shown was a prototype. Is there gonna be a lip where the metal and polymer meet?
Its not like a factory mag where the plastic forms a complete structure. Gonna be hard to form them together in such a limited space for 15 and having space for the depth of the oem catch. That's not considering the tolerances of the 2 parts.
All that potential for issues just to be able to run the factory mags also? Thats not the main problem.
Ill be waiting and waiting for them to come out, reliability being field tested without any ftf in any production mags. But im not holding my breath.
@@taz4100 I have 3 on order and so far all the reviews are positive.
I have two gen 3 s15 mags and they've run flawlessly
Me too
I run shield arms gen 3 exclusively in the 43x. Threw the Glock mags in the trash. Swapped out the mag release for shields. Flawless!!!
Swapped out my mag release to a metal one on my 43X and I've had absolutely no issues with the two SA mags I bought. Runs all ammo just fine.
Is swapping out mag release mandatory or keeping it won’t be that big of a deal with the S15
I did swap out to a metal mag release which works perfectly w/ the Shield Arms. I did notice the original Glock 43X polymer mags now don't run as smoothly, but that's ok since I'm not going back to them. @@juanellis4044
And although it's slight, you will notice a difference in weight w/ your EDC going to 15 rounds from 10. @@juanellis4044
@@juanellis4044The OEM plastic release will get chewed up by the metal SA magazines over time.
I really hope they get this figured out. I really want this concept to work out… 🍻
They already did. It's called a Hellcat Pro 😂
The gen 2's I bought were single shot mags and sat for about 16-17 months in a closet until shield swapped them for the gen 3 mags. I ran 50 through all three and one ran perfect, one a single failure, one had two. All three failures were what you showed with the round just not quite going in. A slap on the bottom and all three jams cleared. I'll be testing more but already better than my single shot jam o matic gen 2's. OEM for the win for 100% but so far the gen 3 is promising compared to the gen 2.
I gotta say, GUNMEN content is top quality. 💯
❤ the shield Gen 3 mags with my 43X have been flawless
I haven't had a high round count like you on this mag. I bought 1 and shot about 300 rounds with no issues
It makes me wonder if the surface finish is causing the issue. I've not picked up the g3 but it appears to be less slick which could mean that the same spring tension won't push the follower up as fast. This would also be consistent with the break in period as the inside of the mag would be rubbed and smoothed out a little. The fact that the follower can't be made tall enough to be "anti-tilt" also means that spring pressure is extra important. Without adequate force pushing on the front of the follower, a nosedive is definitely possible
I have the SA mags, PSA and ETS mags for the Glock 48. All have work flawless. I have more of the SA mags than than the other two, and the SA mags are my main mags I use in my 48.
I've had my SA and PSA mags fail on me (even have a video of the latter), so I can't for the life of me understand the lack of consistency each have between different people
As soon as PSA starts selling their 15 round mag, we won’t be talking about Shield Arms anymore.
i trust my s15 gen 2s. switching mags takes the mag and like 100 rounds of ammo at the least for me to trust it so i ain switching shit cuz i dont got the ammo for all that shit😂
Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
Lol what make y’all think the psa ones will be reliable? They have 15rounds that are shit right now
@@CoolKid-mg9bo PSA actually addresses the issues whenever customers have problems. Not send the issue back to you and tell you they worked fine for them. Then re-release a 3rd gen and change the design and manufacture. Plus I’ve already wasted over $200 in mags and ammo w/ SA how much worst can it get? Which 15rd mags are you referring to, the MAGPUL Glock mags??
@@ProactiveDefenseLLC man I hear you still don’t guarantee they won’t have issues lol and obviously shield arms is addressing their issues if they’ve created 3 versions of this mag.
Thanks but I'll probably skip the gen 3's and wait for their gen 15's to come out before I decide to try them. Maybe by then it will be a 10 round steel lined polymer mag that actually works. 😏
I found the problem to be as the round is brought forward by the slide, the bullet's casing at the neck where the bullet sits gets caught on the front edge of the Shield Arms S15 magazine. This leads to the fact that after shooting many rounds through the firearm the S15 magazine front edge will wear down from repeatedly striking the casing's edge. I can repeat this. I filed my front edge down.
Psa micro dagger mags are coming hear they are more reliable a employee put 700 rounds through it no jams so far and you can use the factory mag release
What’s the expected capacity?
@@aaronbomar9162 15 of course
Whenever I buy new pistol magazines I take them apart oil the inside of them and use a brass brush and scrub them clean. Then I degrease them and then use them. Small guns don’t need all those aftermarket upgrades, people are trying to go cheap using upgrades designed for full size pistols. My S15 magazines haven’t given me any issues weather the gen2 or gen3 version I was hang up free.
Just ran my Gen 3s for the first time today, no issues after running about 100 rounds through each
Just received my three pack and while finding a video about swapping the release button I came across this video. Glad there is hope!
Got to mags in one day and both failed to feed!
I run the gen3 through my 43x MOS with no mods and haven’t had a single issue yet, about 500 rounds so far.
Same here today
that issue seems like the follower is too 'flat' when loaded vs lifting the round at the front, did they change the follower angle?
Can't go wrong with OEM though.
THIS. Lemme tell you, I’ve a ton invested in the Glock slimline platform and I carry OEM mags because of the absolute garbage rep S15’s have. Just not worth replacing OEM parts, like the mag catch, to carry mags that should be relegated to range day fun.
Sadly I agree….want these to work so bad but the reliability just isn’t there
@@Dixieland1859 the reliability is there. These S15 gen2 mags have probably been the most reliable I’ve had in any mag cartridge. 100%! Just put in the correct STEEL mag catch. My gen2 mags seat perfectly every time in the mag well because I’ve had the correct STEEL mag catch in from the start.
@@michaelhodges8312 worth a shot but looks like all the Gen 2’s are sold out and will probably be back filled by the 3’s. Plan on picking a couple up to test (with the steel release) but I’m going to need some flawless runs before I consider for carry.
@@Dixieland1859 well, good luck on that. I can just say the premium latest SA steel mag catch is the answer for the SA gen2 mags. Based on the experience I’ve had, the SA gen2 mags are awesome in my 43X. Glad I got 4 of them.
PSA dagger micro mags in the works and coming out real soon. Save your money and check the reviews on them first. Fingers crossed PSA 🤞🏽
I havn't had any issues with mine. My 43x is stock.
Beautiful background on where you’re shooting at My Gosh 😍😍
Wanted to get these for dept. secondary guns. I can't get them at this rate of failures. what a bummer. stuck with 10 rounders I guess.
When you jammed on the last round did the slide lock engage like the issue im facing?
Dude where are you? That place looks awesome
I’ve had extraction and feeding issues with OE mags, and it’s only the 43x
That is why I would opt for the P365 or Shield Plus over the 43X. If you have to put in more aftermarket parts on a sub- compact carry, I would not even bother getting it.
The Sig P365 XMACRO has made the shield mag + 43X obsolete in my opinion. You can carry 17 rounds in the same size gun, but you don't sacrifice any reliability.
During the summer months when you need a smaller gun, you can just swap the grip frame to the standard p365 one.
I'll tell you what- The glock 43X is one of the top carry pistols and if they can get this 15 round mag working - it will be arguably the best. But the Springfield Hellcat will still be the #1 choice for me since it is smaller, feels solid, and holds more rounds from factory and with smaller mag options. If you can, buy them both :)
Nah it wouldn't be the best. The P365 can have a 17rd spare from factory, 20 with an extension.
@@Osprey1994 That was a typo. I had a few of them and fixed the comment.
@@Osprey1994 I’ll take Glocks reliability over Sig anyday and I love the MacroX
Glock or S&W will always be the best for serious use. All others are sub par.
Dudes, I just can’t. I’ve never purchased not one S15 mag, but because all I’ve seen/heard they have been a no go for me since I started carrying my 43X/48 MOS’. And believe me, I’d do anything for more rounds. I took Fieldcraft’s Pistol course (effin garbage course) with the 43x and got so tired of reloading and reloading. This has caused me to change my edc to my G19/17/34’s. I hope Glock ends up coming out with an OEM solution for more rounds in that platform, but until then I’ll have to sacrifice concealability for more rounds carried.
Awesome set up. But 1-2 malfunctions on a magazine that is intended for EDC isn’t sat AT ALL.
Hell, I’m still using my Gen 1s cause I haven’t had any issues with them. I had them since December 2020. I have a Gen 2 I have yet to open and try out
man your content quality is badass unique very informative
My gen 1's have been flawless for years now, I had wanted to get more but noticed that many people seem to behaving issues so waiting to see what happens. Thanks for the review
I have almost 2000 rounds through them, i have heard that many people said if you use a suppressor with the pistol it jams easier..... i have had no issues with 4 different mags....
I’m having the same fail to feed issue with my Gen 2’s. Disappointed to say the least. I don’t want to go back to factory round capacity but I don’t trust the s15 mags.
Great information👍🏻 I still not convinced about 95% efficacy -approx 1.4 malfunctions every other 15 rd magazine- very far from Glock Perfection Standards.
Agree about waiting for S15 Gen 4 release.
Gen2’s are 100% with the proper SA steel mag catch.
Any update on these? Sorry to keep bugging you about these haha. Love the channel as always
Sorry man they kinda fell by the wayside haha I may do more tests but it’s hard to even say anything because they are so unpredictable. They may not work in my build but they might work perfect in yours so it’s a toss up 😮💨🫠 it’s almost worth buying them just to see
@@GUNMENusa haha you're good. and yeah you're right about buying just to see. i will probably end up doing so, but on the other hand, i would probably be constantly plagued by worries of issues no matter how many rounds i got through clean. have you used the psa 15 round mag? cant remember.
@@adamfarag9971haha yeah I did try them and I actually really like them but I did run into only a couple jams that made me worried haha. But I need to do more tests on those too 🫠
@@GUNMENusa dang lol. so only stock mags for the 43x still for your edc?
@gunmenusa are you still using the tyrant designs plus four?
Would like to see a review if you did a shield arms review with a glock oem barrel.
Bought a brand new 43x mos and bought the s15 mag . Have the same problem. Mag make gun jam
What red dot are you rubbing in this video
seems like similar comments coming from many reviewers/users on youtube/reddit for gen3 as much as gen2.. even though they changed manufacturer maybe there's still QC issues going on where some people win the lottery and others don't. I'm getting gen3 on my g43x mos and will be trying out at least 1k rounds to see if it's worth carrying. if there's any issues, not worth risking my life on it for +5 cap. if it jams once that could mean death
Yeah don’t get the +5 extension ones yet the follower gets stuck if you try to put more than 17 rounds unfortunately
Can you do a review on the PSA micro 15 round mags that supposedly work with the 43x? I know PSA has a… not so great… reputation and I’m skeptical. But so far I’ve only heard good things. Plus they’re cheap and don’t require an aftermarket metal mag release. Could be the 15 round 43x magazine solution we have all been hoping for.
I’ll look into them!!
Bought 1 shield gen 3 mag and it failed, took it back to gun store and they gave me another one and it also failed to feed!
Run flawlessly for me compared to occasional issues with gen 2.
This is why I stay with my g26 never think to change to new glock
Just got my Gen 3 starter kit with 3 mags and a metal release. Swapped out the release… popped in a new mag with hollow points. Failed to battery… second mag failed to battery… third mag with FMJ’s worked fine. I’m kind of freaked out right now and wondering if I just leave them sitting fully loaded they will break in after a few trips to the range.
Try it with the oem barrel..
I have put several hundred rounds through my G43X using the Shield Arms S15 Gen 3 mags without a single issue.
Gen 3 was supposed to fix the scrapping on the mag well
Do you think it could be the aftermarket barrel is compounding the issue?
The main problem people have with them can be fixed, from what i've seen, by simply loosening the screws on your optic. I've heard they can cause issued with feeding if it's on too tight.
No, that is from using the incorrect screws and hitting the extractor depressor plunger with the end of the screw.…
Top notch as always
You should try out PSA micro dagger magazine 15 rds
Thankfully I have not had any issues with my Gen 2s. I haven't used my Gen 2 with the 5 round mag extension yet, but I'm trying to be optimistic. I believe it could be the possibility of them using a new US manufacturer and the new tooling they said has been added.
hope you are optimistic when you have an issue. Go OEM !!
The gen ones would give me a nose dive malfunction once every 200 rounds or so.The Gen twos have worked perfect through almost 4000 rounds. I have 10 to 12 or more gen twos. I have no interest in the GEN threes at all.
Are you going to review the Shield Z9 mags?
Do I see a new optic on the 43x? 👀 My Gen 2s have run flawlessly, so far.
Great review. Thank you!
Having the same issue. After several hundred round break in with FMJ's with minor issues I proceeded to load up my carry hollow points consisting of Speer Gold Dots and Hornady FTX. Inserting a full mag into the pistol and proceeding to chamber a round it jams every time on the feed ramp, almost like the follower is too flat. My guess it that they corrected the "play" in the mag with the bumps on the back which may have pitched the mag slightly forward, if they kept the same follower angle as the previous gens I could see where it would nose the round down slightly. I think if they could pay specific attention to the follower angle and make a correction these could be great mags. All 3 of my gen 3 mags are going back to Shield Arms. Will post an update when I know something more. I do have the metal mag release as well, my G48 and 43X are stock, issue with both guns and all 3 mags.
Did you test them with the original Glock barrel?
Buy PSA micro dagger mags you don’t have to modify your pistol to use them and they are cheaper. But if you have a RUclips channel like GUNMEN does shield will give you mags and pay you to use and show off their mags. A working man who doesn’t get paid should use PSA
lol you think I get paid
Why not just make the body of the mag slightly larger instead of the dumb bumps on the back?
Just threw 5 gen 3 Shield mags in the garbage. Just could not get even 1 to work in my Glock 48. Yes I had there metal mag catch. Glock mags all 100%.
I'm an M&P guy, but the question is, why won't glock come out with a comparable glock to the Shield plus, 365, etc?
Because the M&P Shield Plus and the P365 are using stack-and-a-half magazines out of the box. They already do what Shield Arms is doing in these mags for Glocks that are single stack OEM.
Bummer! I'm glad I waited.
Hurry up with the standard 43x vid running the gen 3 mags 😊
Did they run well???
I use it since day 1, not a single issue, about 600+ rounds. about 250 from that number were HSTs 124 P+ from federal
I have only gen 1 & 2 mags
I see how the issue could happen, you literally have to push magazine slowly and under specific angle to make it happen, so the round remains/sits under the slide. It can be done, but you literally must put an effort.
Any slight movement and round slides in a front of the slide removing the issue by itself. it seems like they tried to eliminate that in gen 3 with bulging/bumps at the back.... but f.. up something else :)
I see they changed geometry of the feeding lips in gen3 causing the round to "dive", but this probably unintentional change done by the contractor like it happened with a lot of guns going to a diff. manufacturer
Anyway, non professional work
btw you MUST use "PREMIUM" magazine button, which is made of steel. The aluminum one will get sheared by magazine making it another point for a problem. The NO-go with plastic(OEM) for sure
in my case, if I knew about SIG 365 XMACRO before I upgraded from 43x to 43x MOS, I would go to SIG for sure (even thought I didn't have any firing issues at all). I consider required magazine release change as an issue :)s
I bought 4 of the GEN 2s and really hated them. Then, I replaced the mag release button with a shield button. Since then, the mags are flawless and I am happy I have them. Next, I would like to find a holster for the Safariland qls lock system.
They literally tell you right on the website to change the mag catch with theirs.
@@9unslin9er I assumed they were full of it, I assumed poorly. I am a believer.
@@KhanTrav You aren't out of the clear yet. The source of the Shield mag malfunctions isn't the mag catch. Its the thiness of the mag tube itself. The Glock mags cause cartridges to sit further forward, so they are property picked up by the slide. The cartridges sit too far back on the Shield mags, so they butt up against the slide.
why not just run the psa micro daggers?
You need a hype or hyphe mag catch it works the best with the metal
Thoughts on Shadow Systems pistols?
@GUNMAN how about helping an old disabled US Army Veteran out and tell me how to make my gen 2 mags work without charging me a patreon fee?
Fr 😂😂
Just don’t cut corners when upgrading your Glock 43x.
Use the S15 metal mag catch.
If you’re running a red dot, make sure your bolt/screw on the right of the dot does not come in contact with the extractor plunger.
Most importantly, the don’t treat the 43x like a Glock 19.
“I solved the issue that could potentially get you killed in a self defense shooting, but pay me first”
Hey y’all! I’m not speaking on behalf of anyone with this comment. But this channel is incredibly technical, way more than other channels out there. A LOT goes into making these videos. These videos are also not monetized (you can imagine why, but it starts with g and ends with s ). So the Patreon is a way to help offset the lack of RUclips monetization so he can keep bringing us amazing content. Cheers y’all and have a great day🤘🏻
@@Lemur_Charlie exactly. I like his show but I'm old and have a hard enough time with getting this RUclips on this phone. Good luck to the young fellow anyway
What type of ammo were you running?
What Red Dot is on your 43x ?
probably the holosun eps carry
holosun 507k
Im waiting for the Palmetto State Micro Dagger Mags.
me too man. the shield mags don’t work well for my g48
I've been waiting too. Feels like an eternity though...
The PSA mags are likely to have the same issues the shield mags do in the g43x/g48.
I don’t understand why both of these companies have chosen to try and locate/restrain the magazine differently than Glock does. Glock mags all have a shelf on them on the upper left side that interfaces with the frame and forces the mag into the correct position. Neither shield arms nor PSA have that on their mags.
@@bma8013 thanks for the info. I didn’t know about the shelf thing. I had a gen 2 s15 mag that was nothing but trouble from the first time I used it in my 43x MOS. I’m still gonna give the psa a try and hope they are good to go. 🤞
@Bma801 interesting. The little I have seen on the psa mags has been a quick shot in a video. Looks like a hybrid with polymer in the front half and steel in the rear. The polymer section interfaces with the mag release without allowing the mag release to interfere with the magazine spring unlike the shield mags. Still interested to see how they will perform if ever released...
Had to many issues with my gen 2 so still hard to trust gen 3. I’ll stick with OEM.
I really hope someone gets these figured out cause only jams occasionally is not exactly great ,at Sig mag prices too even though the sig is alot more expensive all round in my neck of the woods i either gonna have get a 43x and run oem glock mags or save for a 365 xl or something and pay the extra for Sig stuff 😂
Please show your g43x mod setup that’s updated!
Obviously the problem was their magazines, regardless of variations with Glock frames. Glocks work with OEM magazines, reliably.
Shield Arms can make any excuse they want, but if they were serious about solving the problem, they would have matched OEM spec instead of adding ugly rivets that are going to wear away at your plastic frame over time & cause another problem.
They just want to push another product for us to waste money on before PSA drops their micro-dagger magazines and takes over their market share.
Thanks for info great job 👍 which mag do you think i should get gen 2 or gen 3
My dude did you watch the video
I can’t find any gen2 mags?!
After 35 years and thousands of rounds through various Glock pistols, the Glock platform is my go-to defensive carry firearm. I love firearms of many types so not a "fanboy". But for serious purposes my experience has always brought me back to one Glosck or another over the years. NEVER had a mag related malfunction with stock Glock mags. I had high hopes for the S15 mags. On paper, they sound great after all. However, after a couple of mag related malfunctions with the S15 mags I'm a HARD no-go with them. And while the capacity advantage of the Shield mags looks awesome on paper, ANY decrease in reliability of my defensive firearms is unacceptable. I paid way too much for two S15 mags that are now just paperweights. Fine for range use, but who needs expensive mags for range use?? Good for stoppage clearance drills I suppose... I'd NEVER trust my life to ANY aftermarket Glock mag. Magazines are the heart of any semiautomatic firearm. Factory Glock mags are the most reliable I have ever used in any firearm in well over 45 years of shooting. In my experience, deviating from a proven design for unnecessary capacity considerations is just not worth it. There is a reason that Glock made the G48 with 10 rounds rather than 15... The tolerances and physics just aren't there in the 48 grip's dimensions for that capacity AND still provide 100% reliability. RELIABILITY is what Glock has been about for damn near 40 years... Change their designs at your own risk. In the real world, if you can't handle a situation with 10-11 rounds, do you really think 5 more will make a substantial difference? Are you willing to sacrifice the stock 100% reliability to gain the dubious advantages provided by the few additional rounds? Not me...
Honestly, Glock is so far behind the industry with this stuff. It's enough to make me switch from Glock, which I've been a Glock shooter my entire life, to another brand. Capacity is the name of the game in CC right now and Glock just doesn't seem to be making effort to keep up. I hope Shield arms gets this figured out, but we shouldn't need aftermarket companies to fix a design limitation.
11 rounds for concealed carry is good enough for me. Don't & won't ever trust aftermarket mags! Please glock make 20 rd fun stick for 43× / 48😊
Your channel is top shelf, you will be up there with the best soon. Keep up the incredible videos, you're doing great boss.
Did you put in the SA mag catch?
I’m interested in seeing what goes on shield arms wants me to send them my gen 2 mags in return they send me gen 3 mags I’m curious my gen 2 have been flawless
What threaded barrel are you running?
New gun gen5 new S15 gen3 brass steel case nickel case hollow point low enforcement p+++ or so mixed all together in one mag ZERO NON issues. Sorry all of you guys your glocks are broken or just will not work with that one specific magazine you have. I noticed a lot of problems especially with machines when I did reenactment we shared magazines some didn’t work with my MPs but worked on my friend
Is that an R9 or a different can?
You should snag a Staccato P and review it
Hello what optic are you running and is that a 48 mos?
Holosun eps carry on a g43x mos
The shield arms saga continues. They try so hard and yet...
Mine work though, but do not work in one of my 43x's reliably. The one they don't work 100% in has an aftermarket slide...they work with the oem slide on that same frame.