The worst part of akira dying is now we will never get amazing lore insights like this from him anymore, so we will never know if this was actually his vision or something someone made up instead of him
What about the part of the legend where he's in his ape form? That he destroyed himself cause he could not contain his power. I mean you could easily say that it was a last ditch effort to try and defeat the evil saiyans. And that the survivors told the story with their own interests in mind.
I think we need to just let Dragonball lore be as simple and lacking depth as Toriyama intended it. Not a single theory anyone has come up with in 30 years was true. Toriyama didn't want to write some deep story. He was a bomb illustrator. But thank God he only did the art for Dragon Quest games.. can you imagine how bad the story would be in those games if they let him write and not just draw? Lmao. He's said this himself. He's not being humble. He was telling the world to calm down. In fact, back in like 2010 when that Dragonball live action came out he literally asked people to stop thinking too deep into it. Because he himself doesn't lmao. DB fans really are the worst.
@@BriskQuick I definitely understand what you are saying, but we have been given a story that is clearly not as simple as it was in the first series with all of its current elements, so I do not see any reason for them to not give us more concerning Yamoshi. If they could do it well, it would be a wasted opportunity if they did not.
@@transcendent7lucidity no dude. Just no lol. Super has an arguably worse plot than any of the others. It's not that deep bro. It's a series about yelling louder than your opponent and powering up for no reason other than to further the plot. And you know what? That's fine. It's mindless fun. But people making it out to be deep and whatnot is embarrassing. It's cringe. It's all bad.
@@BriskQuick Yes, dude. Just yes. I am not talking about how Dragon Ball Super compares to the other series. I am talking about the current complexity of Dragon Ball in its totality when going from its very beginning to where it is now with its many different elements. That is not me saying that the story is deep, so you are making it out to be the case that I am saying that. It is embarrassing, cringe, and all bad that you are attempting to make it seem like a single special about this character would not make sense when it definitely would when considering the stories that focus on Bardock and time travel being a key part of the series in general.
A Yamoshi movie would be nice. If they did a film based on things aside from the characters we already know it would be awesome to explore the origins of this character.
@@MDG-mykys Or sheron telling him about an ancient ritual he must complete. Or maybe he has to fuse with at least 100 nameks or something cool like that.
Seems to me like Toriyama further complicated a pretty simple and straightforward backstory from BoG. Yamoshi and several other good saiyans pour power into Yamoshi and wind up creating a SSGod. But the change is temporary like we saw in the movie, and the evil saiyans survive his attack and defeat him when his power runs out like we saw later with Goku. Now he's the first SSJ instead, and his friends lose their point in the story, and Yamoshi knows a SSGod can be created eventhough he became was a regular SSJ.
@@IstoletreeslegsI liked it better when it was more vague and mysterious, though. It was more interesting to theorize than to be given the answer in an interview for a magazine
Yeah, but it fits better with the whole 'righteous fury' thing Super Saiyan was apparently about. Makes sense too, since the only saiyans to achieve it were pure of heart and pushed into a corner (Yamoshi and Goku). Until Vegeta completely shattered the narrative and made it known that ANY Saiyan can transform if the conditions are met, regardless of mortal alignment.
No bud, he's just misrepresenting his words. All Toriyama said is both legends start from the same place. That is all. The legend of the Super Saiyan God eventually become the legend of the Super Saiyan. One person, two legends, as the god aspect became lost to time.
I always see it this way: He awakened SSJ God, lost it and went regular SSJ. Becoming both the ssj God and Ssj legends respectively. But time made the legends separate into what we know now.
He wouldn't have been Yamoshi because in that Special's Timeline Bardock is genuinly THE First Saiyan and SSJ, Yamoshi was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years ago, most likely meaning way before Yamoshi was Born, there werr more SSJ's
Yamoshi was NOT the First DSJ, he was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years, most likely more Super Saiyan's existing way before even his Grandparents were Born
The glimpse looks like shallot though cause remember in the game shallot and giblet are ancient super saiyan gods and I don't remember but I think they Said something about being WAY older than normal saiyans
that would be pretty cool and it would be a good way to actually bring Shallot and Giblet into the canon but I highly doubt they’ll touch on this ever again
A soul never dies. All he did was pass on to the Namekians what he learned about SSG. Maybe he found the Namekians And he needed rest from bad injuries so they probably wished him away. He probably felt like that power was too dangerous. Especially when they were wiping out Frieza race. And Frieza is also OP when training
I usually dislike giving author statements too much weight but in this case that bit about Yamoshi's spirit interacting with a Namekian elder does make work well since it also might explain how Guru/Grand Elder knew about Super Saiyans during the Namek arc.
you know what would great movie. if they make a movie about yamoshi the first god. how he been gone. with the god transform you can live forever. so powerful that whis or shenron could not find him.
Calling it now Vegeta is a direct decendant of Yamoshi thats why in the battle of gods movie the original super saiyan god in the flashbac resembled him so much, i think this was before the Vegeta clan seized power and became royality. I also think at some point they forgot their origins being related to Yamoshi
I feel like whatever's going on with Broly and his ilk being born every one thousand years is likely Yamoshi's doing. Like, every thousand years, Yamoshi is reborn as a Saiyan in the current era. That Saiyan then becomes the 'Legenedary' of that era and cultivates that power so that the one after them a thousand years later is stronger. Would explain Broly's power and why there's only one of him every thousand years. He's the possible reincarnation of Yamoshi and all those that came after him. But then that raises the question of why Yamoshi's reincarnating himself.
If all this was true, it would finally be an explanation how Vegeta got god ki without doing the ceremony that Goku did. The spirit of the original saiyan inhabited him.
Just let this shit die already. I used to love Dragon Ball growing up 28-30 years ago as a kid. Just let Akiras work rest with him. The story was told. It's done.
What if… the tale is a mix of different parts of Toei Bardock story? 5 comrades? ✅ (with Gine) Rebelled against evil saiyans ✅ (kinda, he did incite a rebellion from the saiyans to take down Frieza and they were mostly evil) Become SS ✅ (episode of Bardock) Wanted to find the next Saiyan savior ✅ (more like an avenger, in Goku) Saved Salad from an evil threat ✅ (against Chilled) And even though the order and details don’t match, that’s quite how legends usually go. At least until they are collected in a book and then they become a single official story that doesn’t completely resemble any of the previous tales. Since he was forced back in time it would make sense that the Namekians at one time could have heard of such tales about the past and, unbeknownst to them, the future even. It also would explain why this particular legend is not known among the saiyans.
Where did you get this information!? I don't remember that they said that yamoshi being the ssg specifically, it is said that there was a saiyan (no name) with his 5 comrades, They did the ritual and the Saiyan transformed into what we know as SSG but the bad thing is that as we can see in the fight between Goku and Beerus, the form did not last long and then the saiyan got cornered and lost
When Yamoshi and Zalama pop out of nowhere this RUclips short GOTTA BE DELETED BECAUSE IF YAMOSHI USED SSG FIRST, DIED THEN TRAVELED THE UNIVERSE TO TRANSFER THAT POWER THAT MEANS HIS SOUL STILL EXISTS
People being like "oh what if akira planned all this when he began" like no every dragon ball fan knows he originally planned on ending it after the cell saga...
I heard that the first legendary super saiyan can only go super saiyan only in his Great ape form, does that makes Ssj4 cannon??? As it was said by vegeta in freeza saga.
I thought the first legendary super sayain was Broly. And before I even watched the Broly movies, I had thought that perhaps Goku and Vegeta somehow ended up back in time and saw that the very first super sayain, was actually evil.
Yamoshi did the super Saiyan God ritual with shenron help actually the young Saiyan Vegeta showed how to become a super Saiyan in the tournament of the god became a super Saiyan God the same way in the manga
Frieza race is so OP that the Saiyans were still wiping them out. That should scratch some heads. So imagine Saiyans learning super Saiyan God. Beerus would've had to come wipe them out because they could've been like Frieza race just brutally killing people. I'm not sure if people are paying attention to Dragonball Super or what.
No, Yamoshi is an Saiyan who loved ages ago. He was the first Super Saiyan, thats how the Legendary Super Saiyan tale came along among Saiyans. And Goku was the 1st one to achieve Super Saiyan in his era and hes the Legendary Super Saiyan now. And When he achived SSJG, he inheritted the Spirit of Yamoshi which was wandering around to seek an new Warrior who protects/Hope of this new Era. So basically Yamoshi was the Father of All Saiyans and as the one who achived this new Super Saiyan and it Super Saiyan God. Among Saiyans, the Super Saiyan is like an God to them, so it was thus called Super Saiyan God.
I wanna believe it because it sounds like a fucking awesome idea my only question is, if the reason goku can so SSG is bc of this guy's spirit, then why can vageta do it too, is there 2 SSG's?
What if: Goku becomes an angel. Vegeta becomes a G.O.D(funny how it still comes out as GOD). My man Broly (ya know, THE LSS) is actually the SS God in Beerus' dream, he's already a righteous Saiyan with a pure heart and potentially an unlimited amount of power once he gains full control equivalent like Goku did with MUI. And Gohan (also future Trunks, my man deserves more credit/respect for literally breaking the 4th wall and saving the entire franchise for us) become a Kai.
Goku wasn’t the first super saiyan god, it was another saiyan, we don’t know who he was but when goku ask shenron about the super saiyan god, Shenron said he was aware of the god goku ask about, meaning their was one before goku
I find it so funny death means nothing in Dragon Ball verse but yet a angel and a god of destruction had no idea how to find a super Saiyan god, despite if there ever was one literally going to the spirit world and simply looking up who and speaking with them is a reasonable possibility, heck there even is a person known to many who knows everything lol
He just made it make no sense cause ssj god was never mentioned nor would it make sense cause they would need multiple ssjs to do it. Also yamoshi wasnt defeated by the evil sayians it clearly says he died cause the power from the ssj transformation was too much to handle so it was probably something similar to brolys ssj transformation. My head cannon is yamoshi got so powerful at one point in bis transformation he gets the powers of a ssj god but he couldnt hold it and ended up dieing cause we see goku easily absorb the ssjg transformation into his base form meaning he controlled the transformation but i think yamoshi wasnt so lucky since he never even became a ssj2
The worst part of akira dying is now we will never get amazing lore insights like this from him anymore, so we will never know if this was actually his vision or something someone made up instead of him
What if Toriyama planned everything ahead of time back in the 1980s-90s?
I wouldn't be too upset. Toyotaro is the story's embodiment now.
What about the part of the legend where he's in his ape form? That he destroyed himself cause he could not contain his power.
I mean you could easily say that it was a last ditch effort to try and defeat the evil saiyans.
And that the survivors told the story with their own interests in mind.
@@mohammadmalik9075Toyotaro is known for being a pretty bad writer so we'll see
@@ashuraomega1000I mean have you seen AF it's bad (let me know what you guys think)
That Yamoshi guy sounds pretty cool
Watch ULTRA Vegito bc Yamoshi is there
@@mightguy2670what?
Yeah, someone should definitely make an origin story for him. 🤔👀
bro it is a fan comic@mightguy2670
@@imabird6 watch it
now
We need a Dragon Ball OVA Prequel for Yamoshi.
I think we need to just let Dragonball lore be as simple and lacking depth as Toriyama intended it. Not a single theory anyone has come up with in 30 years was true. Toriyama didn't want to write some deep story. He was a bomb illustrator. But thank God he only did the art for Dragon Quest games.. can you imagine how bad the story would be in those games if they let him write and not just draw? Lmao. He's said this himself. He's not being humble. He was telling the world to calm down. In fact, back in like 2010 when that Dragonball live action came out he literally asked people to stop thinking too deep into it. Because he himself doesn't lmao. DB fans really are the worst.
We not getting that 😢
@@BriskQuick I definitely understand what you are saying, but we have been given a story that is clearly not as simple as it was in the first series with all of its current elements, so I do not see any reason for them to not give us more concerning Yamoshi. If they could do it well, it would be a wasted opportunity if they did not.
@@transcendent7lucidity no dude. Just no lol. Super has an arguably worse plot than any of the others. It's not that deep bro. It's a series about yelling louder than your opponent and powering up for no reason other than to further the plot. And you know what? That's fine. It's mindless fun. But people making it out to be deep and whatnot is embarrassing. It's cringe. It's all bad.
@@BriskQuick Yes, dude. Just yes. I am not talking about how Dragon Ball Super compares to the other series. I am talking about the current complexity of Dragon Ball in its totality when going from its very beginning to where it is now with its many different elements. That is not me saying that the story is deep, so you are making it out to be the case that I am saying that. It is embarrassing, cringe, and all bad that you are attempting to make it seem like a single special about this character would not make sense when it definitely would when considering the stories that focus on Bardock and time travel being a key part of the series in general.
I would’ve loved a one time spin off on Yamoshi
A Yamoshi movie would be nice. If they did a film based on things aside from the characters we already know it would be awesome to explore the origins of this character.
I think he was in the process of making a yamoshi movie before he died
Imagine piccolo reading the namkeian books and becoming orange piccolo through that instead of the way it happened.
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@@MDG-mykys Or sheron telling him about an ancient ritual he must complete. Or maybe he has to fuse with at least 100 nameks or something cool like that.
@@beyondthesacrosanctbreeze 100 might be a bit much 😄
Bro wrote a whole ass fanfic
He's the creator that ain't fanfic that's just lore 😂😂😂
this is literally information from interviews and comics
@@GloomyOrange05 congratulations, you played yourself.
@@GloomyOrange05 💀💀
Seems to me like Toriyama further complicated a pretty simple and straightforward backstory from BoG. Yamoshi and several other good saiyans pour power into Yamoshi and wind up creating a SSGod. But the change is temporary like we saw in the movie, and the evil saiyans survive his attack and defeat him when his power runs out like we saw later with Goku.
Now he's the first SSJ instead, and his friends lose their point in the story, and Yamoshi knows a SSGod can be created eventhough he became was a regular SSJ.
It’s not really complicated. It’s explaining the story further or answering certain things of the moment
@@IstoletreeslegsI liked it better when it was more vague and mysterious, though. It was more interesting to theorize than to be given the answer in an interview for a magazine
I completely agree with you on this one.
Yeah, but it fits better with the whole 'righteous fury' thing Super Saiyan was apparently about. Makes sense too, since the only saiyans to achieve it were pure of heart and pushed into a corner (Yamoshi and Goku). Until Vegeta completely shattered the narrative and made it known that ANY Saiyan can transform if the conditions are met, regardless of mortal alignment.
No bud, he's just misrepresenting his words. All Toriyama said is both legends start from the same place. That is all. The legend of the Super Saiyan God eventually become the legend of the Super Saiyan. One person, two legends, as the god aspect became lost to time.
R.I.P Akira Toriyama-Sensei
I always see it this way: He awakened SSJ God, lost it and went regular SSJ. Becoming both the ssj God and Ssj legends respectively. But time made the legends separate into what we know now.
That's not what happened. He became super saiyan. Died and his spirit helped another saiyan become the super saiyan god
Didn’t he lost his life because it was too overwhelming or something. I remember it showed a golden ozaru
I love the design of yomoshi
Best explanation so far + I love the design of Yamoshi
It would make sense that it looks like vegeta considering if yamoshi was related to vegeta, then that could be why vegeta is royalty
I'd like the Bardock special ep was canon and than he was renamed as Yamoshi, you know renaming legends happen a lot in real life so it'd make sense
i still consider bardock the first super saiyan even if it goes against canon
He wouldn't have been Yamoshi because in that Special's Timeline Bardock is genuinly THE First Saiyan and SSJ, Yamoshi was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years ago, most likely meaning way before Yamoshi was Born, there werr more SSJ's
@@hoshiryu ?_?
We need a movie about this guy with Z's writting.
Facts but that’s not happening
This will be touched on soon
Man they should make cumber canon so we can get an evil saiyan saga
Saiyan saga 2
Out of all of the evil sayians they could make cannon you want the bane/broly knock off?
@@mcgeeyeeeyeee not really as you see they can change him like how we seen broly before canon and broly after canon
Yamoshi was NOT the First DSJ, he was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years, most likely more Super Saiyan's existing way before even his Grandparents were Born
It was just a legend, meaning they were extremely few in numbers.
Notice how his hair is a combination of vegeta and goku hair put together
The glimpse looks like shallot though cause remember in the game shallot and giblet are ancient super saiyan gods and I don't remember but I think they Said something about being WAY older than normal saiyans
I think yamoshi is their dads
@@Acooldude807that could honestly be interesting
that would be pretty cool and it would be a good way to actually bring Shallot and Giblet into the canon but I highly doubt they’ll touch on this ever again
So that Evil Saiyans were demons? Because in dragon ball world if you get killed by the demon your soul will wonder instead going to afterlife.
They could be Considered Demons, same with DK Piccolo
I heard SSJ design is based off fallen angels. I have no credentials but still interesting
I GUARANTEE toryama was making this stuff up on the spot
Bro pulled all of this out of his ass
Goku is the legend I called this the first time he fought broly
A yamosho story/movie would be so cool
Funny how the Yamoshi design is literally just a fusion of Goku and Vegeta’s hair style
Jus when I thoroughly i knew everything about dbz and this pops up😂
A solo movie with this would be great kind of like the original Bardock
A soul never dies. All he did was pass on to the Namekians what he learned about SSG. Maybe he found the Namekians And he needed rest from bad injuries so they probably wished him away. He probably felt like that power was too dangerous. Especially when they were wiping out Frieza race. And Frieza is also OP when training
Still waiting on this story to come to the forefront but we gotta gag some Daima first.😂
how has this never been explored more!?
When u first mentioned the evil saiyans i saw cumber
Would make a good movie
Should’ve done ARJ yamoshi
Reminds me of the Naruto Shippuden Asura and Indra Ōtsutsuki story.
I usually dislike giving author statements too much weight but in this case that bit about Yamoshi's spirit interacting with a Namekian elder does make work well since it also might explain how Guru/Grand Elder knew about Super Saiyans during the Namek arc.
And yet this form was quickly outlived now under blue
you know what would great movie. if they make a movie about yamoshi the first god. how he been gone. with the god transform you can live forever. so powerful that whis or shenron could not find him.
The Super Sayian God looks like Vegeta from the front. But from the side it looks like Goku😎💯
2 things we NEED from db. First, yamoshi atory lime and second, zamalas story
The lore be going deep I fuck with it
Calling it now Vegeta is a direct decendant of Yamoshi thats why in the battle of gods movie the original super saiyan god in the flashbac resembled him so much, i think this was before the Vegeta clan seized power and became royality. I also think at some point they forgot their origins being related to Yamoshi
I get Carthu vibes from this guy, love it
Everytime I hear about this I think of Shallot I don't know why.
I feel like whatever's going on with Broly and his ilk being born every one thousand years is likely Yamoshi's doing. Like, every thousand years, Yamoshi is reborn as a Saiyan in the current era. That Saiyan then becomes the 'Legenedary' of that era and cultivates that power so that the one after them a thousand years later is stronger. Would explain Broly's power and why there's only one of him every thousand years. He's the possible reincarnation of Yamoshi and all those that came after him.
But then that raises the question of why Yamoshi's reincarnating himself.
If all this was true, it would finally be an explanation how Vegeta got god ki without doing the ceremony that Goku did. The spirit of the original saiyan inhabited him.
Akira gave banda another cow to milk for dragonball
That's a New Testament Bible reference if I ever heard one lol
Well that's true
I wonder what would happen if a sand from the sixth universe had a baby with a saying from the 7th universe
Vegeta will in the end get his respect 😮
i just up last night thinking this watching the namek saga, how weird
This makes more sense. Keep in mind all the saiyans went super saiyan during the ritual. I can gurantee you there wasnt 5 super saiyans back then.
Yamoshi ( Bean sprouts) is considered the "seed" from which both legends grew.
I still find it funny when the broly movie came out we all speculated broly was yamoshi but instead it was broly though
Just let this shit die already. I used to love Dragon Ball growing up 28-30 years ago as a kid. Just let Akiras work rest with him. The story was told. It's done.
It wasn't recorded ON the book. It was IN the book.
ITS SHALLOOOOT
What if… the tale is a mix of different parts of Toei Bardock story?
5 comrades? ✅ (with Gine)
Rebelled against evil saiyans ✅ (kinda, he did incite a rebellion from the saiyans to take down Frieza and they were mostly evil)
Become SS ✅ (episode of Bardock)
Wanted to find the next Saiyan savior ✅ (more like an avenger, in Goku)
Saved Salad from an evil threat ✅ (against Chilled)
And even though the order and details don’t match, that’s quite how legends usually go. At least until they are collected in a book and then they become a single official story that doesn’t completely resemble any of the previous tales.
Since he was forced back in time it would make sense that the Namekians at one time could have heard of such tales about the past and, unbeknownst to them, the future even.
It also would explain why this particular legend is not known among the saiyans.
Where did you get this information!? I don't remember that they said that yamoshi being the ssg specifically, it is said that there was a saiyan (no name) with his 5 comrades, They did the ritual and the Saiyan transformed into what we know as SSG but the bad thing is that as we can see in the fight between Goku and Beerus, the form did not last long and then the saiyan got cornered and lost
Nice vid
Too bad Toriyama is gone😢 the dbs from here onward may as well become GT.
When Yamoshi and Zalama pop out of nowhere this RUclips short GOTTA BE DELETED BECAUSE IF YAMOSHI USED SSG FIRST, DIED THEN TRAVELED THE UNIVERSE TO TRANSFER THAT POWER THAT MEANS HIS SOUL STILL EXISTS
How strong were those evil saiyans
People being like "oh what if akira planned all this when he began" like no every dragon ball fan knows he originally planned on ending it after the cell saga...
Sound like toriyama was at it again maling stuff up as he went
Can we get a story lore on this?? Like why does super exist?
I heard that the first legendary super saiyan can only go super saiyan only in his Great ape form, does that makes Ssj4 cannon??? As it was said by vegeta in freeza saga.
Not me thinking that was shallot or giblet😅
Not before having kids apparently as Shallot and Giblet are descendants of Yamoshi.
More lore than DBS combined
I thought the first legendary super sayain was Broly. And before I even watched the Broly movies, I had thought that perhaps Goku and Vegeta somehow ended up back in time and saw that the very first super sayain, was actually evil.
Always thought yamoshi was a fanfic
How strong was those sayian back then to defeated a super sayian god.?
Yamoshi did the super Saiyan God ritual with shenron help actually the young Saiyan Vegeta showed how to become a super Saiyan in the tournament of the god became a super Saiyan God the same way in the manga
What about The Legendary Super Saiyan?
Someone pls tell me the name of this song! Seriously I beg you 🙏🏾
Wasn't the original Ssg the ancestor of Shallot?
At this point everybody is the Legendary super saiyan while at the same time also not being the Legendary Super Saiyan
Frieza race is so OP that the Saiyans were still wiping them out. That should scratch some heads. So imagine Saiyans learning super Saiyan God. Beerus would've had to come wipe them out because they could've been like Frieza race just brutally killing people. I'm not sure if people are paying attention to Dragonball Super or what.
What vegetable is yamochi ?
No, Yamoshi is an Saiyan who loved ages ago. He was the first Super Saiyan, thats how the Legendary Super Saiyan tale came along among Saiyans. And Goku was the 1st one to achieve Super Saiyan in his era and hes the Legendary Super Saiyan now. And When he achived SSJG, he inheritted the Spirit of Yamoshi which was wandering around to seek an new Warrior who protects/Hope of this new Era. So basically Yamoshi was the Father of All Saiyans and as the one who achived this new Super Saiyan and it Super Saiyan God. Among Saiyans, the Super Saiyan is like an God to them, so it was thus called Super Saiyan God.
bro wheres shallot and giblet
Not canon
@@ahsoka_polo cry more
@@Lego_Whis2 offended over an answer?
So they’re saying Goku is the reincarnate of Yamosi? If Yamoshi was brought back, would that affect Goku in some way?
Huh wait does that mean there is a potential theory that vegeta is a descendant of yamoshi
Most likely not, however in Legends both Shallot and Giblet are his Descendants, as they are called the Descendants of the Super Saiyan God
Will we see him in dbs
So would that mean Goku is basically the reincarnation of Yamoshi as they share the spirit of the super saiyan god?
It's like children stories, dragon ball ended for me in gt
I didn't know who the f*ck Yamoshii was until now.
I wanna believe it because it sounds like a fucking awesome idea my only question is, if the reason goku can so SSG is bc of this guy's spirit, then why can vageta do it too, is there 2 SSG's?
Dame king yama doing his job sloppy.
What is this song called?
Yeah i can definitely tell Akira didnt right this. This your version.
What if:
Goku becomes an angel.
Vegeta becomes a G.O.D(funny how it still comes out as GOD).
My man Broly (ya know, THE LSS) is actually the SS God in Beerus' dream, he's already a righteous Saiyan with a pure heart and potentially an unlimited amount of power once he gains full control equivalent like Goku did with MUI.
And Gohan (also future Trunks, my man deserves more credit/respect for literally breaking the 4th wall and saving the entire franchise for us) become a Kai.
Goku wasn’t the first super saiyan god, it was another saiyan, we don’t know who he was but when goku ask shenron about the super saiyan god, Shenron said he was aware of the god goku ask about, meaning their was one before goku
Cool
this sounds like DBAF
I find it so funny death means nothing in Dragon Ball verse but yet a angel and a god of destruction had no idea how to find a super Saiyan god, despite if there ever was one literally going to the spirit world and simply looking up who and speaking with them is a reasonable possibility, heck there even is a person known to many who knows everything lol
Yamoshi from ultra vegito?
He just made it make no sense cause ssj god was never mentioned nor would it make sense cause they would need multiple ssjs to do it. Also yamoshi wasnt defeated by the evil sayians it clearly says he died cause the power from the ssj transformation was too much to handle so it was probably something similar to brolys ssj transformation. My head cannon is yamoshi got so powerful at one point in bis transformation he gets the powers of a ssj god but he couldnt hold it and ended up dieing cause we see goku easily absorb the ssjg transformation into his base form meaning he controlled the transformation but i think yamoshi wasnt so lucky since he never even became a ssj2
We all know the first Super Satyian was Bardock