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Yamoshi - The FIRST Super Saiyan!?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
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  • @DALWAG
    @DALWAG 2 месяца назад +2298

    The worst part of akira dying is now we will never get amazing lore insights like this from him anymore, so we will never know if this was actually his vision or something someone made up instead of him

    • @tlst94
      @tlst94 2 месяца назад +69

      What if Toriyama planned everything ahead of time back in the 1980s-90s?

    • @mohammadmalik9075
      @mohammadmalik9075 2 месяца назад +128

      I wouldn't be too upset. Toyotaro is the story's embodiment now.

    • @iasonchistoper288
      @iasonchistoper288 2 месяца назад +38

      What about the part of the legend where he's in his ape form? That he destroyed himself cause he could not contain his power.
      I mean you could easily say that it was a last ditch effort to try and defeat the evil saiyans.
      And that the survivors told the story with their own interests in mind.

    • @ashuraomega1000
      @ashuraomega1000 2 месяца назад +35

      ​@@mohammadmalik9075Toyotaro is known for being a pretty bad writer so we'll see

    • @firechargeogname
      @firechargeogname 2 месяца назад +7

      ​@@ashuraomega1000I mean have you seen AF it's bad (let me know what you guys think)

  • @TheGeekForFun
    @TheGeekForFun 2 месяца назад +1130

    That Yamoshi guy sounds pretty cool

    • @mightguy2670
      @mightguy2670 Месяц назад +18

      Watch ULTRA Vegito bc Yamoshi is there

    • @Misosalty683
      @Misosalty683 Месяц назад

      ​@@mightguy2670what?

    • @BCCSquidward
      @BCCSquidward Месяц назад +7

      Yeah, someone should definitely make an origin story for him. 🤔👀

    • @imabird6
      @imabird6 Месяц назад +2

      bro it is a fan comic​@mightguy2670

    • @mightguy2670
      @mightguy2670 Месяц назад

      @@imabird6 watch it
      now

  • @joseurbina3835
    @joseurbina3835 2 месяца назад +625

    We need a Dragon Ball OVA Prequel for Yamoshi.

    • @BriskQuick
      @BriskQuick 2 месяца назад +24

      I think we need to just let Dragonball lore be as simple and lacking depth as Toriyama intended it. Not a single theory anyone has come up with in 30 years was true. Toriyama didn't want to write some deep story. He was a bomb illustrator. But thank God he only did the art for Dragon Quest games.. can you imagine how bad the story would be in those games if they let him write and not just draw? Lmao. He's said this himself. He's not being humble. He was telling the world to calm down. In fact, back in like 2010 when that Dragonball live action came out he literally asked people to stop thinking too deep into it. Because he himself doesn't lmao. DB fans really are the worst.

    • @devaughnfranklin6683
      @devaughnfranklin6683 Месяц назад +5

      We not getting that 😢

    • @enlightened7master
      @enlightened7master Месяц назад +2

      @@BriskQuick I definitely understand what you are saying, but we have been given a story that is clearly not as simple as it was in the first series with all of its current elements, so I do not see any reason for them to not give us more concerning Yamoshi. If they could do it well, it would be a wasted opportunity if they did not.

    • @BriskQuick
      @BriskQuick Месяц назад +4

      @@enlightened7master no dude. Just no lol. Super has an arguably worse plot than any of the others. It's not that deep bro. It's a series about yelling louder than your opponent and powering up for no reason other than to further the plot. And you know what? That's fine. It's mindless fun. But people making it out to be deep and whatnot is embarrassing. It's cringe. It's all bad.

    • @enlightened7master
      @enlightened7master Месяц назад +2

      @@BriskQuick Yes, dude. Just yes. I am not talking about how Dragon Ball Super compares to the other series. I am talking about the current complexity of Dragon Ball in its totality when going from its very beginning to where it is now with its many different elements. That is not me saying that the story is deep, so you are making it out to be the case that I am saying that. It is embarrassing, cringe, and all bad that you are attempting to make it seem like a single special about this character would not make sense when it definitely would when considering the stories that focus on Bardock and time travel being a key part of the series in general.

  • @Jogiahs
    @Jogiahs 2 месяца назад +67

    I would’ve loved a one time spin off on Yamoshi

  • @marcoruiz4545
    @marcoruiz4545 Месяц назад +22

    A Yamoshi movie would be nice. If they did a film based on things aside from the characters we already know it would be awesome to explore the origins of this character.

    • @tankdieselmus0041
      @tankdieselmus0041 Месяц назад +3

      I think he was in the process of making a yamoshi movie before he died

  • @michaelpro4981
    @michaelpro4981 Месяц назад +46

    Bro wrote a whole ass fanfic

    • @saintofgayfrogs
      @saintofgayfrogs 29 дней назад

      He's the creator that ain't fanfic that's just lore 😂😂😂

    • @GloomyOrange05
      @GloomyOrange05 6 дней назад

      this is literally information from interviews and comics

    • @God_of_RDA
      @God_of_RDA 6 дней назад

      ​@@GloomyOrange05 congratulations, you played yourself.

    • @michaelpro4981
      @michaelpro4981 5 дней назад

      @@GloomyOrange05 💀💀

  • @Jameboy
    @Jameboy Месяц назад +9

    R.I.P Akira Toriyama-Sensei

  • @Paur
    @Paur 2 месяца назад +294

    Seems to me like Toriyama further complicated a pretty simple and straightforward backstory from BoG. Yamoshi and several other good saiyans pour power into Yamoshi and wind up creating a SSGod. But the change is temporary like we saw in the movie, and the evil saiyans survive his attack and defeat him when his power runs out like we saw later with Goku.
    Now he's the first SSJ instead, and his friends lose their point in the story, and Yamoshi knows a SSGod can be created eventhough he became was a regular SSJ.

    • @Istoletreeslegs
      @Istoletreeslegs 2 месяца назад +16

      It’s not really complicated. It’s explaining the story further or answering certain things of the moment

    • @EbenSennett
      @EbenSennett 2 месяца назад +40

      ​@@IstoletreeslegsI liked it better when it was more vague and mysterious, though. It was more interesting to theorize than to be given the answer in an interview for a magazine

    • @yungblade7
      @yungblade7 Месяц назад +9

      I completely agree with you on this one.

    • @YamchaSama-Z
      @YamchaSama-Z Месяц назад +7

      Yeah, but it fits better with the whole 'righteous fury' thing Super Saiyan was apparently about. Makes sense too, since the only saiyans to achieve it were pure of heart and pushed into a corner (Yamoshi and Goku). Until Vegeta completely shattered the narrative and made it known that ANY Saiyan can transform if the conditions are met, regardless of mortal alignment.

    • @ParadiseDB7
      @ParadiseDB7 Месяц назад +10

      No bud, he's just misrepresenting his words. All Toriyama said is both legends start from the same place. That is all. The legend of the Super Saiyan God eventually become the legend of the Super Saiyan. One person, two legends, as the god aspect became lost to time.

  • @ace12schweitzer
    @ace12schweitzer Месяц назад +20

    Imagine piccolo reading the namkeian books and becoming orange piccolo through that instead of the way it happened.

    • @MDG-mykys
      @MDG-mykys Месяц назад +1

      Fr

    • @beyondthesacrosanctbreeze
      @beyondthesacrosanctbreeze Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MDG-mykys Or sheron telling him about an ancient ritual he must complete. Or maybe he has to fuse with at least 100 nameks or something cool like that.

    • @MDG-mykys
      @MDG-mykys Месяц назад

      @@beyondthesacrosanctbreeze 100 might be a bit much 😄

  • @yungfirefly
    @yungfirefly Месяц назад +32

    I always see it this way: He awakened SSJ God, lost it and went regular SSJ. Becoming both the ssj God and Ssj legends respectively. But time made the legends separate into what we know now.

    • @LuisPerez-5
      @LuisPerez-5 Месяц назад +4

      That's not what happened. He became super saiyan. Died and his spirit helped another saiyan become the super saiyan god

    • @kvab24
      @kvab24 28 дней назад

      Didn’t he lost his life because it was too overwhelming or something. I remember it showed a golden ozaru

  • @Unknow37135
    @Unknow37135 Месяц назад +13

    I love the design of yomoshi

  • @EricAntiBlanc
    @EricAntiBlanc Месяц назад +4

    Best explanation so far + I love the design of Yamoshi

  • @gokublackiguess
    @gokublackiguess Месяц назад +7

    It would make sense that it looks like vegeta considering if yamoshi was related to vegeta, then that could be why vegeta is royalty

  • @hoshiryu
    @hoshiryu Месяц назад +4

    Yamoshi was NOT the First DSJ, he was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years, most likely more Super Saiyan's existing way before even his Grandparents were Born

    • @ahsoka_polo
      @ahsoka_polo Месяц назад

      It was just a legend, meaning they were extremely few in numbers.

  • @RadStorm4988
    @RadStorm4988 27 дней назад

    I GUARANTEE toryama was making this stuff up on the spot

  • @Tobitheakatsuki
    @Tobitheakatsuki 8 дней назад +1

    Bro pulled all of this out of his ass

  • @lks19
    @lks19 2 месяца назад +21

    We need a movie about this guy with Z's writting.

  • @cloroxbleach5413
    @cloroxbleach5413 2 месяца назад +12

    Man they should make cumber canon so we can get an evil saiyan saga

    • @williansvalenzuela7352
      @williansvalenzuela7352 Месяц назад +3

      Saiyan saga 2

    • @mcgeeyeeeyeee
      @mcgeeyeeeyeee Месяц назад +1

      Out of all of the evil sayians they could make cannon you want the bane/broly knock off?

    • @khaledkhateb8665
      @khaledkhateb8665 Месяц назад

      @@mcgeeyeeeyeee not really as you see they can change him like how we seen broly before canon and broly after canon

  • @odeball22
    @odeball22 Месяц назад

    Goku is the legend I called this the first time he fought broly

  • @malcolm24568
    @malcolm24568 Месяц назад +2

    Notice how his hair is a combination of vegeta and goku hair put together

  • @Mahendra_Choudhary_M
    @Mahendra_Choudhary_M 2 месяца назад +32

    I'd like the Bardock special ep was canon and than he was renamed as Yamoshi, you know renaming legends happen a lot in real life so it'd make sense

    • @Leostar-Regalius
      @Leostar-Regalius Месяц назад +4

      i still consider bardock the first super saiyan even if it goes against canon

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu Месяц назад +3

      He wouldn't have been Yamoshi because in that Special's Timeline Bardock is genuinly THE First Saiyan and SSJ, Yamoshi was the Last SSJ in over 1000 Years ago, most likely meaning way before Yamoshi was Born, there werr more SSJ's

    • @Mahendra_Choudhary_M
      @Mahendra_Choudhary_M Месяц назад

      @@hoshiryu ?_?

  • @Sunny-bd8dc
    @Sunny-bd8dc Месяц назад +1

    Funny how the Yamoshi design is literally just a fusion of Goku and Vegeta’s hair style

  • @dwightnorton3398
    @dwightnorton3398 2 месяца назад +5

    This will be touched on soon

  • @Jojo7250_0
    @Jojo7250_0 27 дней назад

    A yamosho story/movie would be so cool

  • @godmodegamingchannel
    @godmodegamingchannel Месяц назад

    A soul never dies. All he did was pass on to the Namekians what he learned about SSG. Maybe he found the Namekians And he needed rest from bad injuries so they probably wished him away. He probably felt like that power was too dangerous. Especially when they were wiping out Frieza race. And Frieza is also OP when training

  • @DemlogYT
    @DemlogYT 2 месяца назад +13

    So that Evil Saiyans were demons? Because in dragon ball world if you get killed by the demon your soul will wonder instead going to afterlife.

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu Месяц назад +6

      They could be Considered Demons, same with DK Piccolo

    • @PHATTMATT-ni9rb
      @PHATTMATT-ni9rb 29 дней назад

      I heard SSJ design is based off fallen angels. I have no credentials but still interesting

  • @underthesonson
    @underthesonson Месяц назад

    Jus when I thoroughly i knew everything about dbz and this pops up😂

  • @thecherry6849
    @thecherry6849 Месяц назад +1

    A solo movie with this would be great kind of like the original Bardock

  • @Blackjoyboy5
    @Blackjoyboy5 Месяц назад +5

    The glimpse looks like shallot though cause remember in the game shallot and giblet are ancient super saiyan gods and I don't remember but I think they Said something about being WAY older than normal saiyans

    • @Acooldude807
      @Acooldude807 Месяц назад +1

      I think yamoshi is their dads

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 Месяц назад

      ​@@Acooldude807that could honestly be interesting

    • @GeneralKaioshin
      @GeneralKaioshin Месяц назад +2

      that would be pretty cool and it would be a good way to actually bring Shallot and Giblet into the canon but I highly doubt they’ll touch on this ever again

  • @divineeternity7268
    @divineeternity7268 Месяц назад +1

    Still waiting on this story to come to the forefront but we gotta gag some Daima first.😂

  • @acetrainer5564
    @acetrainer5564 29 дней назад

    If all this was true, it would finally be an explanation how Vegeta got god ki without doing the ceremony that Goku did. The spirit of the original saiyan inhabited him.

  • @daelenevans2934
    @daelenevans2934 6 дней назад

    The Super Sayian God looks like Vegeta from the front. But from the side it looks like Goku😎💯

  • @nellatf
    @nellatf 27 дней назад

    Would make a good movie

  • @CaiJabari
    @CaiJabari Месяц назад

    Reminds me of the Naruto Shippuden Asura and Indra Ōtsutsuki story.

  • @wyatt9949
    @wyatt9949 Месяц назад

    how has this never been explored more!?

  • @Luis-sz7tn
    @Luis-sz7tn Месяц назад

    And yet this form was quickly outlived now under blue

  • @ChouRaiyuki
    @ChouRaiyuki Месяц назад

    I usually dislike giving author statements too much weight but in this case that bit about Yamoshi's spirit interacting with a Namekian elder does make work well since it also might explain how Guru/Grand Elder knew about Super Saiyans during the Namek arc.

  • @speedstorm0332
    @speedstorm0332 Месяц назад

    I feel like whatever's going on with Broly and his ilk being born every one thousand years is likely Yamoshi's doing. Like, every thousand years, Yamoshi is reborn as a Saiyan in the current era. That Saiyan then becomes the 'Legenedary' of that era and cultivates that power so that the one after them a thousand years later is stronger. Would explain Broly's power and why there's only one of him every thousand years. He's the possible reincarnation of Yamoshi and all those that came after him.
    But then that raises the question of why Yamoshi's reincarnating himself.

  • @Guts6509
    @Guts6509 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice vid

  • @LoneMaestro-
    @LoneMaestro- Месяц назад

    The lore be going deep I fuck with it

  • @godmodegamingchannel
    @godmodegamingchannel Месяц назад

    When Yamoshi and Zalama pop out of nowhere this RUclips short GOTTA BE DELETED BECAUSE IF YAMOSHI USED SSG FIRST, DIED THEN TRAVELED THE UNIVERSE TO TRANSFER THAT POWER THAT MEANS HIS SOUL STILL EXISTS

  • @Atomysk
    @Atomysk 26 дней назад

    Just let this shit die already. I used to love Dragon Ball growing up 28-30 years ago as a kid. Just let Akiras work rest with him. The story was told. It's done.

  • @user-wx4oo6cc8d
    @user-wx4oo6cc8d 12 дней назад

    Everytime I hear about this I think of Shallot I don't know why.

  • @robertsmith20022
    @robertsmith20022 Месяц назад

    2 things we NEED from db. First, yamoshi atory lime and second, zamalas story

  • @harrypierre7532
    @harrypierre7532 Месяц назад

    you know what would great movie. if they make a movie about yamoshi the first god. how he been gone. with the god transform you can live forever. so powerful that whis or shenron could not find him.

  • @lordhades598
    @lordhades598 Месяц назад

    Calling it now Vegeta is a direct decendant of Yamoshi thats why in the battle of gods movie the original super saiyan god in the flashbac resembled him so much, i think this was before the Vegeta clan seized power and became royality. I also think at some point they forgot their origins being related to Yamoshi

  • @WhiteRanger1298
    @WhiteRanger1298 Месяц назад

    This makes more sense. Keep in mind all the saiyans went super saiyan during the ritual. I can gurantee you there wasnt 5 super saiyans back then.

  • @lildiglit826
    @lildiglit826 Месяц назад +1

    Should’ve done ARJ yamoshi

  • @crazynoisybizarremann5336
    @crazynoisybizarremann5336 Месяц назад

    I get Carthu vibes from this guy, love it

  • @dwaynechoice6603
    @dwaynechoice6603 Месяц назад

    Akira gave banda another cow to milk for dragonball

  • @bry7406
    @bry7406 Месяц назад

    When u first mentioned the evil saiyans i saw cumber

  • @tobertcordless2491
    @tobertcordless2491 Месяц назад

    That's a New Testament Bible reference if I ever heard one lol

  • @axothegremlin
    @axothegremlin Месяц назад

    People being like "oh what if akira planned all this when he began" like no every dragon ball fan knows he originally planned on ending it after the cell saga...

  • @eliargumedo4728
    @eliargumedo4728 Месяц назад

    I thought the first legendary super sayain was Broly. And before I even watched the Broly movies, I had thought that perhaps Goku and Vegeta somehow ended up back in time and saw that the very first super sayain, was actually evil.

  • @sergantanthony216
    @sergantanthony216 Месяц назад

    Not before having kids apparently as Shallot and Giblet are descendants of Yamoshi.

  • @boktai10
    @boktai10 Месяц назад

    I still find it funny when the broly movie came out we all speculated broly was yamoshi but instead it was broly though

  • @godmodegamingchannel
    @godmodegamingchannel Месяц назад

    Frieza race is so OP that the Saiyans were still wiping them out. That should scratch some heads. So imagine Saiyans learning super Saiyan God. Beerus would've had to come wipe them out because they could've been like Frieza race just brutally killing people. I'm not sure if people are paying attention to Dragonball Super or what.

  • @Therantguyyeazy
    @Therantguyyeazy 28 дней назад

    Vegeta will in the end get his respect 😮

  • @snehajain4334
    @snehajain4334 Месяц назад

    More lore than DBS combined

  • @KevinOsterkilde
    @KevinOsterkilde 27 дней назад

    It wasn't recorded ON the book. It was IN the book.

  • @ernestochacon3404
    @ernestochacon3404 Месяц назад

    Yamoshi ( Bean sprouts) is considered the "seed" from which both legends grew.

  • @buddydavidson8549
    @buddydavidson8549 Месяц назад

    I wonder what would happen if a sand from the sixth universe had a baby with a saying from the 7th universe

  • @scorpioriddick
    @scorpioriddick Месяц назад

    What if:
    Goku becomes an angel.
    Vegeta becomes a G.O.D(funny how it still comes out as GOD).
    My man Broly (ya know, THE LSS) is actually the SS God in Beerus' dream, he's already a righteous Saiyan with a pure heart and potentially an unlimited amount of power once he gains full control equivalent like Goku did with MUI.
    And Gohan (also future Trunks, my man deserves more credit/respect for literally breaking the 4th wall and saving the entire franchise for us) become a Kai.

  • @ramonwhite3673
    @ramonwhite3673 26 дней назад

    Yeah i can definitely tell Akira didnt right this. This your version.

  • @jamessconiers1416
    @jamessconiers1416 Месяц назад

    i just up last night thinking this watching the namek saga, how weird

  • @sergioalejandrobricenostap9016
    @sergioalejandrobricenostap9016 Месяц назад

    What if… the tale is a mix of different parts of Toei Bardock story?
    5 comrades? ✅ (with Gine)
    Rebelled against evil saiyans ✅ (kinda, he did incite a rebellion from the saiyans to take down Frieza and they were mostly evil)
    Become SS ✅ (episode of Bardock)
    Wanted to find the next Saiyan savior ✅ (more like an avenger, in Goku)
    Saved Salad from an evil threat ✅ (against Chilled)
    And even though the order and details don’t match, that’s quite how legends usually go. At least until they are collected in a book and then they become a single official story that doesn’t completely resemble any of the previous tales.
    Since he was forced back in time it would make sense that the Namekians at one time could have heard of such tales about the past and, unbeknownst to them, the future even.
    It also would explain why this particular legend is not known among the saiyans.

  • @Hard_Pass
    @Hard_Pass Месяц назад

    Too bad Toriyama is gone😢 the dbs from here onward may as well become GT.

  • @Donatas-rp5yf
    @Donatas-rp5yf 2 месяца назад +3

    Well that's true

  • @thenormalgamer2948
    @thenormalgamer2948 17 дней назад

    ITS SHALLOOOOT

  • @mark_on
    @mark_on Месяц назад

    At this point everybody is the Legendary super saiyan while at the same time also not being the Legendary Super Saiyan

  • @RichDXtreme247
    @RichDXtreme247 Месяц назад

    Isn't this kinda backtracking?
    Yamoshi becomes the first SSJ but failed and convienently has 5 other Saiyans by his side and by the time he died, he went:
    "You know what? I'm making up a new form based on me and my allies via a ritual."

  • @RealTezzue
    @RealTezzue Месяц назад

    Can we get a story lore on this?? Like why does super exist?

  • @The-Almighty775
    @The-Almighty775 16 дней назад

    Where did you get this information!? I don't remember that they said that yamoshi being the ssg specifically, it is said that there was a saiyan (no name) with his 5 comrades, They did the ritual and the Saiyan transformed into what we know as SSG but the bad thing is that as we can see in the fight between Goku and Beerus, the form did not last long and then the saiyan got cornered and lost

  • @JerryLeeLewis-1
    @JerryLeeLewis-1 26 дней назад

    Sound like toriyama was at it again maling stuff up as he went

  • @MagikaSorcerer
    @MagikaSorcerer Месяц назад

    I find it so funny death means nothing in Dragon Ball verse but yet a angel and a god of destruction had no idea how to find a super Saiyan god, despite if there ever was one literally going to the spirit world and simply looking up who and speaking with them is a reasonable possibility, heck there even is a person known to many who knows everything lol

  • @deathtoken8264
    @deathtoken8264 Месяц назад

    Cool

  • @dz_snake3647
    @dz_snake3647 Месяц назад

    It's like children stories, dragon ball ended for me in gt

  • @rabaaquest5787
    @rabaaquest5787 2 месяца назад

    I didn't know who the f*ck Yamoshii was until now.

  • @deangelopaul6997
    @deangelopaul6997 Месяц назад

    Goku wasn’t the first super saiyan god, it was another saiyan, we don’t know who he was but when goku ask shenron about the super saiyan god, Shenron said he was aware of the god goku ask about, meaning their was one before goku

  • @Iroh.boyo69
    @Iroh.boyo69 Месяц назад

    Not me thinking that was shallot or giblet😅

  • @JohnnySilverFinger
    @JohnnySilverFinger Месяц назад

    Always thought yamoshi was a fanfic

  • @anthonyrobinson8625
    @anthonyrobinson8625 Месяц назад

    Yamoshi did the super Saiyan God ritual with shenron help actually the young Saiyan Vegeta showed how to become a super Saiyan in the tournament of the god became a super Saiyan God the same way in the manga

  • @NeuroDrags
    @NeuroDrags Месяц назад

    How strong were those evil saiyans

  • @samsonic44844
    @samsonic44844 Месяц назад

    So would that mean Goku is basically the reincarnation of Yamoshi as they share the spirit of the super saiyan god?

  • @Null_sys
    @Null_sys Месяц назад

    I thought Yanoshi was the first legendary super saiyan and died to his own power, but I either mixed that up with someone else or gaslit myself

  • @kaiox1024
    @kaiox1024 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you, it always ticks me off when people say yamoshi was the first ssg

  • @chadsullivan3645
    @chadsullivan3645 Месяц назад

    We all know the first Super Satyian was Bardock

  • @JinYasha
    @JinYasha Месяц назад

    So they’re saying Goku is the reincarnate of Yamosi? If Yamoshi was brought back, would that affect Goku in some way?

  • @sarav1124
    @sarav1124 Месяц назад

    Dame king yama doing his job sloppy.

  • @RedGhost_Draws
    @RedGhost_Draws Месяц назад +1

    I heard that the first legendary super saiyan can only go super saiyan only in his Great ape form, does that makes Ssj4 cannon??? As it was said by vegeta in freeza saga.

  • @lootgoblin695
    @lootgoblin695 2 месяца назад +1

    Huh wait does that mean there is a potential theory that vegeta is a descendant of yamoshi

    • @hoshiryu
      @hoshiryu Месяц назад +3

      Most likely not, however in Legends both Shallot and Giblet are his Descendants, as they are called the Descendants of the Super Saiyan God

  • @albertmuramasa201
    @albertmuramasa201 26 дней назад

    Goku needed ritual to obtain ssj god... Vegeta doesn't....

  • @amblue1088
    @amblue1088 Месяц назад

    First Lets imagine Yamoshi total age 150 years then he dead also Just imagine Yamoshi born in Universe 6 their Age 30 Hit meet Strong opponent so If Hit Strong that time he win maybe he can lose
    Remember 980 Years ago Yamoshi and Hit both Age

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 Месяц назад

    Actually, there was an ancient SSG, but Yamoshi wasn't him! Yamoshi was the ancient SSJ who inspired the legend of the Super Saiyan in Universe 7 with ! After perishing fighting the ancient evil Saiyans, Yamoshi would continue to guide the Righteous Saiyans in spirit and, with his guidance, aided the six Saiyans spoken of by Shenron in performing the SSG ritual, allowing one of them to become the original SSG who unlike Yamoshi isn't named! However, the original SSG also ended up perishing when his SSG ran out! However, a Namekian Elder became aware of Yamoshi & the original SSG's story, which they recorded into the Namekian Book of Legends, which is where Shenron got his information regarding the history of the SSG ritual! In Dragon Ball Legends, Shallot & Giblet are the descendants of the original SSG who historically perished as well with the Evil Ancient Saiyans becoming the ancestors of all modern Saiyans, though due to the Tournament of Time end up in the present era! Giblets suggests the Righteous Ancient Saiyans lost due to their refusal to commit genocide against the Evil Ancient Saiyans as they hoped to redeem their misguided brethren, which is why Giblet became the Saiyan in Red who kills modern Saiyans due to their bloodline being tainted as they are all descendants of the Evil Saiyans!

  • @kaymiankillerbee8994
    @kaymiankillerbee8994 Месяц назад

    How strong was those sayian back then to defeated a super sayian god.?

  • @baileydubois1608
    @baileydubois1608 27 дней назад

    He just made it make no sense cause ssj god was never mentioned nor would it make sense cause they would need multiple ssjs to do it. Also yamoshi wasnt defeated by the evil sayians it clearly says he died cause the power from the ssj transformation was too much to handle so it was probably something similar to brolys ssj transformation. My head cannon is yamoshi got so powerful at one point in bis transformation he gets the powers of a ssj god but he couldnt hold it and ended up dieing cause we see goku easily absorb the ssjg transformation into his base form meaning he controlled the transformation but i think yamoshi wasnt so lucky since he never even became a ssj2

  • @amanbarnwal6102
    @amanbarnwal6102 Месяц назад

    Shallot and giblet is the one who unlocked ssj God if u know u know

  • @azrael2744
    @azrael2744 Месяц назад

    Wasn't the original Ssg the ancestor of Shallot?

  • @Lego_Whis2
    @Lego_Whis2 Месяц назад +2

    bro wheres shallot and giblet

    • @ahsoka_polo
      @ahsoka_polo Месяц назад

      Not canon

    • @Lego_Whis2
      @Lego_Whis2 Месяц назад

      @@ahsoka_polo cry more

    • @ahsoka_polo
      @ahsoka_polo Месяц назад

      @@Lego_Whis2 offended over an answer?

  • @YoungGrizzy559
    @YoungGrizzy559 26 дней назад

    I wanna believe it because it sounds like a fucking awesome idea my only question is, if the reason goku can so SSG is bc of this guy's spirit, then why can vageta do it too, is there 2 SSG's?