One thing I forgot to mention but was actually sort of fascinating. If you use a higher resolution camera, the APS-C crop at the long end gives this a 67.5mm f/2.7 equivalent. Essentially completing that 28-70/2.8 look on the long end. Would work amazing on something like the A7RV.
@@LoFiAxolotl I’m well aware, but the crop factor does have an effect on the look of the image which is the equivalent of taking the same photo with a 67.5mm f/2.7 lens.
I really appreciate that you focus on the LUMIX/L mount cameras when these new Sigma lenses come out. It’s a great contrast to most other big RUclipsrs who only talk about the Sony. Thanks Benj!
As a stills shooter, I’d prefer to just shoot with a smaller and lighter 24/35mm prime on a 60mp sensor and just crop to 26mp when I need this amount of zoom.
Sigma is making "minor" mistakes with these new lenses and that is the focal range... 28-45 is just such a short range compare to the size and weight this could have been a 24-50 and video shooters would sell their kidneys for this... and the 28-105 comes short as well, because it still requires a wide angle and a telephoto to have a good zoom range... Love sigma quality, but Tamron is making more innovative lenses. The 35-150 requires only a wide angle (16-35) to pair it and have you covered from 16-150 (decent range for most things) obviously not wildlife and sports, but there comes the "clear image zoom or super 35 crop" and you are set. PS.: Can't wait for one these companies to come out with a 20-85mm f2.8 or a 24-105 f2.8, I would buy 2 and literally glue those lenses to my A7IV and FX3.
This is genuinely exciting. I rented and loved the canon 28-70mm F2 from an image PoV but hated the weight and only shot at 28 or 50ish. This seems near perfect… aside from the fact I’d have to buy a Panasonic or Sony to use it with.
It’s still relatively huge and 28 isn’t wide enough for it to be considered an ultra wide; moreover, with the lens protruding that much, the 28mm doesn’t feel like a 28mm from say the 28mm f2 or a ricoh griii :/
Great review Benj. Impressive accomplishment from sigma. If somehow this would’ve been smaller and lighter I would’ve given a go. But the DGDN 24 and 50mm f2 may weight less and be easier to handle with the benefit of the extra range. Probably similar volume overall too.
Thanks for being (so far) the only one reviewing on LUMIX cameras! Looking at this mostly for my video work - how’d the autofocus on the S5II go with this lens?
Love the way you discuss these products! Literally one of my favorite creators in this space! Right now I’m kinda all in on Fuji, but were I to expand into Sony or L-Mount this would definitely be my wider lens. I always shoot a 35mm (or equivalent) and an 85, so this would be perfect for that wider range.
Nice images Ben. Looks like you could have been in Dotonburi - Osaka the same time as me just over 2 weeks ago. Great place and photographers paradice 😊 Thanks for the review
I'm glad you commented on S prime and GM lenses. On my Panasonic I've found the S Primes to be noticeably better than the Sigma versions (28-70 or 70-200). On Sony I find slightly less difference. I'd rather have S Primes on my Panasonic but Sonys I'm good with Sigma for optical quality alone, obviously Sony GM has other advantages though.
I’m definitely not trying to downplay the engineering marvel that this lens is, but I can’t help but think that since it’s already a pretty large lens, if they had just managed to squeeze it out to 24mm (24-45) they would’ve had a real endgame lens on their hands. It’s still an amazing lens though.
I feel like this lens is more or less a 35mm 1.8 prime, that just has a little bit more on both ends than I feel it’s a proper zoom lens. Perfect for videographers in low light, but pretty niche use case for photographers.
the how manyth absolutely crazy and amazing and affordable lens is that now in 2024 that Sigma released? What are they feeding them in the labs tthere? I'd be embarassed as a Camera manufacturer if i didn't have Sigma in my Mount
This looks like really interesting lens...and the price is also really nice... :) It would be great if we can see also ~50-135mm f1.8 lens, as longer end company for this lens. :) And also...will you release Nikon Zf review soon? :)
Very interesting lens for sure..only thing for some consumers that maybe subjective of course is that the close focusing distance could have been better?.30cm is decent but wish it could have been less than that?..especially for wedding photographers..when you want to get some closer detail shots..etc..but overall definitely looks like a good choice for some people..
I really hope Nikon brings this to Z mount, it would be a dream lens for weddings. Especially when shooting film, i could just have 2 cameras on me instead of 3!
Thanks for the insight. Personally the focal length range is a bit odd at first sight. I cant think of many 28/35/50 shooters as those focal lengths are very close: most folks pick 28/50/90 or 24/35/75 as their trio. But this is a great lens for those who hadn't got a preference yet. Or just exploring which focal length works best.
Yeah, it’s not a “do it all” for focal lengths for sure. It does work better as a video lens though because you can use APS-C crop for that 67.5/2.7 look equivalent though.
At my wedding this past weekend I told my second the perfect setup would be a 24-50 on camera 1 and 85 on my second... Hoping Nikon follows with something like this?
I tested the M43 Lumix Leica 10-25mm f1.7 and 25-50mm f1.7 and I genuinely could imagine doing a whole wedding with two bodies with just these lenses. I just don't think I could really, in my true heart, do a pro job with M43. The lenses though were absolutely perfect.
I've been rethinking a lot what I'd allow myself to do a wedding with. Most people aren't blowing up their photos huge and valuing a more authentic experience and less perfected. I've been tempted to do a wedding on film and then just using Fuji digital.
@@eryndaethorvaldsen1952 I've done a lot of weddings on Fuji and they work very well, a little more discreet than my s1r. When I used to use a x100t for casual shots people loved it. Actually iny tests with the G9ii the images were absolutely fine and while you don't get depth of field, I think it's better - too often with FF I'm shooting at f5.6 for fear of having the bride in focus and the groom blurry! So I could do 2 g9iis as wedding cameras, but it's anxiety provoking. I can imagine there's good business in film camera wedding shots. Lordy, I used to do maybe 10 reels of 35mm and 3-4 of 645 for a wedding and pay a fortune for development. Good luck!
i have a serious question: you have to send this lens back to sigma and you don't get any money of them, to do a review. Why? Just for being one of the first reviewers and clicks on videos? Or being invited to some brand-events? So to be honest, no one would really tell us something bad about a lens or a camera. Sure, the brand will not tell you what you have to say, but if you have consistend critics on some brands products, they would then ignore you. That's why everyones review of products is 90+% positive. Sorry for this thougts, this is not just you, and i like your videos very much.
In complete honesty, I both like doing it and have the curiosity around it, but also I’m trying to build an audience worthy of some sponsors (software, accessories, etc) to make the channel financially viable. People buying my presets/LUTs all helps too, but I think I make about $1400/mo right now on RUclips ad revenue which is nowhere near enough to make this worthwhile for the amount of time I put in. But it’s a slow burn for sure. As for critiquing products, that’s sort of the job. But I’m not going out of my way to find bad things about it. For example, on this lens, I have no idea if the focus breathing is good or if it’s parfocal or not. I did the tests in the way I would actually use this and tried to give a honest perspective. If it was optically a bad lens, I wouldn’t have liked it and would have shown its flaws, but in my opinion the only real flaws are the size and the relatively short focal range, both of which I covered :) My allegiance always has to be to the audience and if a company wants to stop sending me things to review because I’m being honest about their products then that would say a lot more about them than me IMO.
@@benjhaisch thank you for this quick and detailed answer. i assumed, that you like reviewing new stuff. :-) I had allready some cases with brands, and i learned, if the level of honesty is to much if something don't work really well on a new product, you are out of the field. Or in my case, if you do too much with another brand, brand A don't come with new projects to you. This is more on Instagram, i don't do videos on youtube, but i ask myself to start, because i write articles for brands and camera stores and adding video could be an option. So thank you again. I really like the type of your videos, how you talk about stuff, your photography. Wish you all the best :-)
One thing I forgot to mention but was actually sort of fascinating. If you use a higher resolution camera, the APS-C crop at the long end gives this a 67.5mm f/2.7 equivalent. Essentially completing that 28-70/2.8 look on the long end. Would work amazing on something like the A7RV.
Aperture has no crop factor... Exposure on any size medium is the same.
@@LoFiAxolotl I’m well aware, but the crop factor does have an effect on the look of the image which is the equivalent of taking the same photo with a 67.5mm f/2.7 lens.
I really appreciate that you focus on the LUMIX/L mount cameras when these new Sigma lenses come out. It’s a great contrast to most other big RUclipsrs who only talk about the Sony. Thanks Benj!
Great stuff Benj! I'll be trying this bad boy out soon!
This would have been killer if it was a 24-50/2.0.
or just a FE 24-35 f1.8 would be cool enough :)
@@romain3900 that’s to short of a range for a zoom.
@@bngr_bngr Maybe but i see that on my 28-75G2, i use 95% the 28-36mm range and when i need more, i take my 85mm :)
@@romain3900 my most used lens is a 400/2.8😭 but my every day lens is a 50/1.4.
@@romain3900 Doesn't Sigma already have a 24-35mm f/2 Art for DSLRs?
The whole time since the S5II came out I wanted a 28mm, a 35mm, and a 45mm f/1.4-2.0 lens and now this. I guess I go shopping it.
Wow i tought i will buy the sigma 50 1.2 but this is so much better for my needs. instant buy!
Im still waiting for Sigma to make a native e mount of the 18-35mm 1.8
Why I wish Sony did the 24-50 in a f2 or 1.8 instead of a 2.8
As a stills shooter, I’d prefer to just shoot with a smaller and lighter 24/35mm prime on a 60mp sensor and just crop to 26mp when I need this amount of zoom.
This is the only correct answer
Sigma is making "minor" mistakes with these new lenses and that is the focal range... 28-45 is just such a short range compare to the size and weight this could have been a 24-50 and video shooters would sell their kidneys for this... and the 28-105 comes short as well, because it still requires a wide angle and a telephoto to have a good zoom range... Love sigma quality, but Tamron is making more innovative lenses. The 35-150 requires only a wide angle (16-35) to pair it and have you covered from 16-150 (decent range for most things) obviously not wildlife and sports, but there comes the "clear image zoom or super 35 crop" and you are set. PS.: Can't wait for one these companies to come out with a 20-85mm f2.8 or a 24-105 f2.8, I would buy 2 and literally glue those lenses to my A7IV and FX3.
This is genuinely exciting. I rented and loved the canon 28-70mm F2 from an image PoV but hated the weight and only shot at 28 or 50ish. This seems near perfect… aside from the fact I’d have to buy a Panasonic or Sony to use it with.
It’s still relatively huge and 28 isn’t wide enough for it to be considered an ultra wide; moreover, with the lens protruding that much, the 28mm doesn’t feel like a 28mm from say the 28mm f2 or a ricoh griii :/
How is the autofocus?
"Just when I thought I was out [of the market for any new lenses]... they reel me back in!"
Tamron 35-150 on my main camera and a 24mm f1.4 on my second camera ✅
Great review Benj. Impressive accomplishment from sigma. If somehow this would’ve been smaller and lighter I would’ve given a go. But the DGDN 24 and 50mm f2 may weight less and be easier to handle with the benefit of the extra range. Probably similar volume overall too.
Thanks for being (so far) the only one reviewing on LUMIX cameras! Looking at this mostly for my video work - how’d the autofocus on the S5II go with this lens?
No issues, things stuck well. Just the same as the S primes have been
Awesome, thank you!
Love the way you discuss these products! Literally one of my favorite creators in this space!
Right now I’m kinda all in on Fuji, but were I to expand into Sony or L-Mount this would definitely be my wider lens. I always shoot a 35mm (or equivalent) and an 85, so this would be perfect for that wider range.
Nice images Ben. Looks like you could have been in Dotonburi - Osaka the same time as me just over 2 weeks ago. Great place and photographers paradice 😊
Thanks for the review
OK, just waiting for the internal zoom 45-90 f1.8 to accompany it and that’s it, job done for lenses. Forever. (For me)
I'm glad you commented on S prime and GM lenses. On my Panasonic I've found the S Primes to be noticeably better than the Sigma versions (28-70 or 70-200). On Sony I find slightly less difference. I'd rather have S Primes on my Panasonic but Sonys I'm good with Sigma for optical quality alone, obviously Sony GM has other advantages though.
I’m definitely not trying to downplay the engineering marvel that this lens is, but I can’t help but think that since it’s already a pretty large lens, if they had just managed to squeeze it out to 24mm (24-45) they would’ve had a real endgame lens on their hands. It’s still an amazing lens though.
I feel like this lens is more or less a 35mm 1.8 prime, that just has a little bit more on both ends than I feel it’s a proper zoom lens. Perfect for videographers in low light, but pretty niche use case for photographers.
Great review! Now imagine if they come out with a 55-90mm f1.8 to go along with it! Only 2 lenses need for 99.9% of my Weddings :)
the how manyth absolutely crazy and amazing and affordable lens is that now in 2024 that Sigma released? What are they feeding them in the labs tthere? I'd be embarassed as a Camera manufacturer if i didn't have Sigma in my Mount
This looks like really interesting lens...and the price is also really nice... :)
It would be great if we can see also ~50-135mm f1.8 lens, as longer end company for this lens. :)
And also...will you release Nikon Zf review soon? :)
Sima will earn a lot of money when they finally drop the update to 18-35 (including fuji mount).
Very interesting lens for sure..only thing for some consumers that maybe subjective of course is that the close focusing distance could have been better?.30cm is decent but wish it could have been less than that?..especially for wedding photographers..when you want to get some closer detail shots..etc..but overall definitely looks like a good choice for some people..
I am seriously considering it for the SL3 version. at 45 is close to 50 anyways @ 1.8 seems really attractive
Really interesting lens! As always, amazing video!!! Now, when are you going to sell your new presets package? And can you make one for video too?
Very interesting lens. Oh, Cascade3! When will you be releasing that?
Tengo un amigo que paso 10 años con un 35mm y me decía que solo quería aveces un poco de rango para algunas ocasiones, tal vez si le gustaría 😅
I really hope Nikon brings this to Z mount, it would be a dream lens for weddings. Especially when shooting film, i could just have 2 cameras on me instead of 3!
Film, Nikon is not making any new F mount lenses. I doubt third party manufacturers are either.
Thanks for the insight. Personally the focal length range is a bit odd at first sight. I cant think of many 28/35/50 shooters as those focal lengths are very close: most folks pick 28/50/90 or 24/35/75 as their trio. But this is a great lens for those who hadn't got a preference yet. Or just exploring which focal length works best.
Yeah, it’s not a “do it all” for focal lengths for sure. It does work better as a video lens though because you can use APS-C crop for that 67.5/2.7 look equivalent though.
Wow this lens is very interesting
PUT IT ON MY CAMERA
Good price point
This is cool
At my wedding this past weekend I told my second the perfect setup would be a 24-50 on camera 1 and 85 on my second... Hoping Nikon follows with something like this?
I tested the M43 Lumix Leica 10-25mm f1.7 and 25-50mm f1.7 and I genuinely could imagine doing a whole wedding with two bodies with just these lenses. I just don't think I could really, in my true heart, do a pro job with M43. The lenses though were absolutely perfect.
I've been rethinking a lot what I'd allow myself to do a wedding with. Most people aren't blowing up their photos huge and valuing a more authentic experience and less perfected. I've been tempted to do a wedding on film and then just using Fuji digital.
@@eryndaethorvaldsen1952 I've done a lot of weddings on Fuji and they work very well, a little more discreet than my s1r. When I used to use a x100t for casual shots people loved it. Actually iny tests with the G9ii the images were absolutely fine and while you don't get depth of field, I think it's better - too often with FF I'm shooting at f5.6 for fear of having the bride in focus and the groom blurry! So I could do 2 g9iis as wedding cameras, but it's anxiety provoking. I can imagine there's good business in film camera wedding shots. Lordy, I used to do maybe 10 reels of 35mm and 3-4 of 645 for a wedding and pay a fortune for development. Good luck!
i have a serious question: you have to send this lens back to sigma and you don't get any money of them, to do a review. Why? Just for being one of the first reviewers and clicks on videos? Or being invited to some brand-events? So to be honest, no one would really tell us something bad about a lens or a camera. Sure, the brand will not tell you what you have to say, but if you have consistend critics on some brands products, they would then ignore you. That's why everyones review of products is 90+% positive. Sorry for this thougts, this is not just you, and i like your videos very much.
In complete honesty, I both like doing it and have the curiosity around it, but also I’m trying to build an audience worthy of some sponsors (software, accessories, etc) to make the channel financially viable. People buying my presets/LUTs all helps too, but I think I make about $1400/mo right now on RUclips ad revenue which is nowhere near enough to make this worthwhile for the amount of time I put in. But it’s a slow burn for sure.
As for critiquing products, that’s sort of the job. But I’m not going out of my way to find bad things about it. For example, on this lens, I have no idea if the focus breathing is good or if it’s parfocal or not. I did the tests in the way I would actually use this and tried to give a honest perspective. If it was optically a bad lens, I wouldn’t have liked it and would have shown its flaws, but in my opinion the only real flaws are the size and the relatively short focal range, both of which I covered :)
My allegiance always has to be to the audience and if a company wants to stop sending me things to review because I’m being honest about their products then that would say a lot more about them than me IMO.
@@benjhaisch thank you for this quick and detailed answer. i assumed, that you like reviewing new stuff. :-) I had allready some cases with brands, and i learned, if the level of honesty is to much if something don't work really well on a new product, you are out of the field. Or in my case, if you do too much with another brand, brand A don't come with new projects to you. This is more on Instagram, i don't do videos on youtube, but i ask myself to start, because i write articles for brands and camera stores and adding video could be an option. So thank you again. I really like the type of your videos, how you talk about stuff, your photography. Wish you all the best :-)
Why 45mm?! Such an odd focal length..
Probably just engineering/physics
@@benjhaisch I guess so yeah. It would've been nice if it was 28-50 f/2, but maybe that's my oldschool Leica M brain speaking :)
@@benjhaisch But poor market analysis
Sigma must have a 28-105 f2.8
Tamron has a 28-105 2.8 for Nikon f and canon ef. Not super sharp but great for portraits
@@Wileyinthestreets i got ths s5 and a sony a6300 :( jajaja
@@WileyinthestreetsYep, not sure why they refuse to remake that lens. It is almost 30 years old!
Close focusing is not close enough to make it really special.
Nice exercise. But, I won't be buying it.
Awesome lens but that Stratocaster back there is stealing the show. Those blocky inlays are sweet!
Boring lens