The Power of Penhold(NEW)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024
  • Tennistavolo Tischtennis Bordtennis 卓球 Top sin Topspin Tenis de mesa Tennis de table Timo Boll Wang Hao Xu Xin Ma Long Ma Lin Michael Maze Vladimir Samsonov Li Ching Wang Liqin Jun Mizutani Ryu Seung Min Tang Peng Ko Lai Chak Lee Jung Woo He Zhi Wen Yoshida Kaii Kim Taek Soo Liu Guoliang.
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    Hi guys,this is a little Best of(trailer version ;) ) dedicated to Penholds.
    Hope you like this job :)

Комментарии • 148

  • @DNA12RAMTHA
    @DNA12RAMTHA 10 лет назад +33

    I am a penholder and i know the disadventage of being a penhold but I choose to be a penhold cause it makes me do a lot of footwork ,that way i stay fit and lean.

    • @theflubbybear
      @theflubbybear 10 лет назад

      Just curious - do you think shakehand is better? Why?

    • @DNA12RAMTHA
      @DNA12RAMTHA 10 лет назад +10

      I don't think shakehand is superior to penhold. If you have a good react skill penhold can be very deadly for shakehand. I just see more fun playing penhold.

    • @theflubbybear
      @theflubbybear 10 лет назад +5

      Thanks. I agree. I think PH is nicer aesthetically and the strokes are more interesting in my opinion. Plus, PH is what I learned first so it's more comfortable for me.

    • @SomeRandomGuy777x
      @SomeRandomGuy777x 9 лет назад +10

      Like Xu Xin said (Translated): "Despite that there are disadvantages of being a Penhold, there are more positive points from it. And in playing table tennis, we all need to diversify."

    • @icyboy771z
      @icyboy771z 9 лет назад +2

      Chris Choi well i used to play table tennis long ago was good at it...I was a penhold player, if you master it is very powerful..I had a china coach who also held penhold ,his serves were unstoppable. Don't think you can create the same spin with shakehand..

  • @empireentertainmentevents1353
    @empireentertainmentevents1353 4 года назад +5

    The perfect Penhold player is someone who has the RPB of Wang Hao, Killer FH and amazing Footwork of RYU SEUNG MIN and the mental toughness of MA LIN.

  • @zayarlin1434
    @zayarlin1434 11 лет назад +18

    Pen is the best.

  • @walxer77
    @walxer77 11 лет назад +3

    I love penholders. I'm shakehand but I want to turn into penholder. The only weakness is the backhand,in penhold technique I find natural to do the backhand like japanease penholders grip does, but I admit that penhold reverse backand of chinese penhold grips is so much powerful and effective. I'd like to try a chinese penhold blade to try the reverse backhand,but I have just little portion of blade to do this,from the middle to the border,is easy to miss the hit. Long life to penholders!

    • @themauritian421
      @themauritian421 6 лет назад

      Valter Bastianelli my penhold backhand is very powerful on neutral balls more powerful than shake hands playrs but my top spin on chop balls is not effective.

  • @GBtabletennis
    @GBtabletennis 14 лет назад +1

    I wanna see Waldner playing penhold... After seeing this vid haha. So for Waldner, just record a video with you playing penhold style.

  • @Soper79
    @Soper79 11 лет назад +1

    4:45 is he zhi wen. He plays short pips and has a wonderful directional blocking game.

  • @max095
    @max095 14 лет назад +1

    Excelent as always Geca... The advantage of a penholder is for sure the capability of using their forehand in almost every point of the table... by the way my favorite penhold player is indeed Wang Hao, cuz his topspin game and his great reverse backhand that complements his forehand...

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад +1

    Hey guys,
    it's very interesting to read your opinions about the best Penhold player!
    Many thanks!Have a good weekend everyone.

  • @MrPoorplay
    @MrPoorplay 14 лет назад +1

    Man, those penholders have incredible footworks.
    Thanks for the vid. Once more great job.

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад +3

    Thank you so much for comments guys! :)
    Who is your favourite Penhold player?
    I like so much Xu Xin's style and Kim Taek Soo.

  • @Irfan87
    @Irfan87 9 лет назад

    GecaPhoenix I remember watching your vids a few years back and actually requested you to make this vid. Stumbled upon it once again. Ah, such good memories. Been a while since i picked up my bat. In the mood right now.

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  13 лет назад

    @BollForte94 :-)
    No problem,I'm glad you liked it bro.Thanks again for post:)

  • @drla02
    @drla02 13 лет назад

    The penhold grip, in my opinion, is harder to perfect than shakehand, especially the reverse penhold. I have gone from a regular penhold(japanese & chinese) to a reverse penhold, & now to shakehand. I feel that the shakehand is quicker on the backhand side & easily blocks heavy loopers on both sides. Penhold has better control & touch on serves but shakehand has better returns. Ultimately, it lies in the hands of the player as to how good he wants to be w/ any style. As Ma Lin w/ penhold.

  • @siddfinch8259
    @siddfinch8259 10 лет назад +1

    Great video. Im a pen-hold player too. Thanks for sharing!

  • @pomotexan
    @pomotexan 10 лет назад

    a.k.a., the Ma Lin and Xu Xin show. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @TTSchnibra Thanks a lot Schnibra;)
    The song is Love & Loss(by Two Steps From Hell).Love this music man:)

  • @ytemoji
    @ytemoji 14 лет назад

    since 1988, 4 times olympic champions by penholder!!!
    Love more the style of jp-pen -so grace- like Kim taek soo and ryu seung min then chinese-pen. but wang hao, xu xin and in 80s jiang jialing (many forget about this very beautiful played style) are also good...
    thanks....

  • @rencedayrit9723
    @rencedayrit9723 11 лет назад +1

    PENHOLD ROCKS \m/ OH BY THE WAY IM A PENHOLDER! :D AND I AGREE THAT PENHOLD HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL TOPSPIN! THATS WHY I LOVE BEING A PENHOLDER! I SALUTE ALL THE PENHOLDERS! :D

  • @Irfan87
    @Irfan87 14 лет назад

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. At last, ive waited so long for this. Thanks Geca. Much appreciated man. Well done once again.

  • @sesatin2dawell
    @sesatin2dawell 2 года назад

    Quality better than ITTF videos nowadays

  • @TableTennisDaily
    @TableTennisDaily 14 лет назад +1

    fantastic man!!!! your are the best! inspirational!! P.S thanks for putting my new channel in the description :))

  • @Soulcore33
    @Soulcore33 14 лет назад

    Geca thank you very much for one penhold vid. Waiting so long :)
    Great points and nice cuts ! :)

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  13 лет назад

    @kevinfzkevinfz The song is Love and Loss(by Two Steps from Hell).

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @tyoungos Yeah,Wang Hao is amazing man.Incredible BH!
    Thanks for your comment:)

  • @Tischtenniscrack95
    @Tischtenniscrack95 14 лет назад

    @tanguydu222 penhold is the style of the players how they hold the racket. for example: Timo Boll plays shakehand and Ma Lin plays Penhold

  • @GuiSuetomi
    @GuiSuetomi 14 лет назад

    GREAT JOB MAN
    another great table tennis video
    I am a penholder so i loved this video
    keep this great job man

  • @pingpongilove653
    @pingpongilove653 7 лет назад +2

    Ma Lin is awesome.

  • @spifo
    @spifo 14 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix no - thank you for the vids.
    And mine is Xu Xin as well, can't think of more powerfull forehand.
    Love his match agains Ma Long, awesome rallies.

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @Isaac231LGB Thanks a lot for your post friend,I'm glad you liked this trailer:)
    I'll try to make also a tribute to the Mozart of TT in the future;)

  • @Sasotzu
    @Sasotzu 14 лет назад

    Great vid and great quality bro :) awesome last point too !

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  13 лет назад

    @kenneth97913 The song is Synaesthetic(by blue man group).

  • @DKPOWA
    @DKPOWA 14 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix Xu Xin´s matches are pure ecstasy, he has one of the fittest bodies, most aggressive styles and both the technique and determination to be #1 !!!

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @007StevenS :D
    Thanks Steven!:)

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @BollForte94 Hehe,you're right bro,amazing point!;D
    But I already put that point in many videos,so I choose to put new points(for example Ma Lin vs Ma Long or Ma Lin vs Tang Peng ecc...).
    Thanks for your comment. :)

  • @SSJ-Catania
    @SSJ-Catania 4 года назад

    I like see Penholder play.

  • @didits2228
    @didits2228 6 лет назад +1

    Penholder never dies 💪💪 💪

  • @kenneth97913
    @kenneth97913 13 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix Awesome thanks! Really like your song choices for you videos!

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @Irfan87 I'm glad you liked this video Irfan!Thanks for your comment and rate:)
    Great point man!But I didn't put it because of the low quality.

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @ytchiening Yeah,thanks for your post and thanks for remembering jiang jialiang!
    Amazing player!:)

  • @i_hakz
    @i_hakz 14 лет назад

    Hey Geca, I like so much of your videos and I was waiting for someone like this one because I'm a Penholder player... Great Video! Congratulations!
    Oh, and I would like to see you make a video like a tribute or something like that for JO Waldner... I think he's the best of all times!

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @ttCrawsaive Yeah bro,4:55!;D
    Thanks for your post,I'm glad you liked this little trailer:)

  • @BollForte94
    @BollForte94 14 лет назад

    Think of this:
    Current World Champion: Penholder: Wang Hao
    The last two olympic champions: Penholder: Ryu Seung Min and Ma Lin
    No Shakehander :D
    If you mastered the chinese penholder you are unbeatable

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    Thanks to everyone for all comments and rate,guys!
    Have a good weekend.

  • @BollForte94
    @BollForte94 14 лет назад

    Xu Xin is so amazing and Wang Hao too and Ma Lin

  • @Tastyichigo
    @Tastyichigo 12 лет назад

    look at that footwork at 2:00 clip by Ma Lin. Thats ungodly. There is no other player than him who can position himself so perfectly for every shot. Its only a shame he was playing Ma Long at the time who was the only player at the time who couldve won that point.

  • @BollForte94
    @BollForte94 14 лет назад

    Xu Xin is so amazing and Wang Hao too and Ma Lin

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @BarnabasG No problem bro,thanks too! :)
    I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
    Thanks a lot also for sub to my channel,you're welcome.

  • @MultiOlimac
    @MultiOlimac 13 лет назад

    DAMM IT, 0:17 WHAT A FCKIN PENHOLD BACKHAND SIMPLY GODLIKE!!!

  • @MiniDonbeE
    @MiniDonbeE 14 лет назад +1

    I think best penholder is wang forehand2 strong xD

  • @Empalempa
    @Empalempa 14 лет назад

    Awesome video! Great graphic!

  • @MrMagatoo
    @MrMagatoo 14 лет назад

    Great vid,
    When and where was that first game?

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @ixxbazxxi Good idea man,thanks!
    In the future I'll try to make also a Tribute to Germany and China Team!:)

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @waynebenn45 I'm glad you liked this quality,thanks a lot for post man:)

  • @rbutthamilton
    @rbutthamilton 11 лет назад

    It is the penholders that add the much needed personality and unpredictability to the sport, similar to what single-handed topspin backhands are to tennis. They are both dying arts in their sports dominated by robots.

  • @ytemoji
    @ytemoji 13 лет назад +1

    ofcourse penholder, what else... ;-)

  • @pedroxepeleco
    @pedroxepeleco 11 лет назад +1

    só não entendi pq vc botou o ponto no 1:44, pois é o Ma Long que pontua (ele é classista)

  • @TTridata
    @TTridata 14 лет назад

    Great as always.

  • @soijiro666
    @soijiro666 11 лет назад +1

    I love playing penhold ! Faster thanks normal

  • @Thesoccerdood
    @Thesoccerdood 12 лет назад

    Anyone else have no idea how they learned to do penhold? The first time I played ping pong I had no idea what shakehold or penhold was and never watched ping pong in my life, yet I somehow used the penhold without anyone teaching me or showing me what it looked like. It's really strange.. maybe it's because I'm Chinese.

  • @liontoxicatorR
    @liontoxicatorR 13 лет назад

    What an amazing video,thank you so much.

  • @TTSchnibra
    @TTSchnibra 14 лет назад

    Awesome Vid, Geca, as always! ;-)
    What is the name of yours intro song? It's awesome too :)
    Greetz Schnibra

  • @Firstland1991
    @Firstland1991 6 лет назад +1

    Ma Lin my idol

  • @str3123
    @str3123 13 лет назад

    4:14 is just amazing!

  • @yobmas722
    @yobmas722 13 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix thanks =D i love your videos keep making em!!

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @SunnieSue70 Grazie sunnie!!!;)Gentilissima!;)

  • @lyrock
    @lyrock 14 лет назад

    great clips!

  • @yobmas722
    @yobmas722 13 лет назад

    @ttmaster10 i was a former penholder and now i use shakehand... actually for me both are good and both have strengths and weaknesses...

  • @yobmas722
    @yobmas722 13 лет назад

    @ttmaster10 Actually my first coach was my dad who taught me with the penhold grip but when i trained with a new coach i learned shakehand... actually both are pretty fun to play.. but the only thing i got stuck with was i got used to getting many shots by my forehand.

  • @FIBONACCIVEGA
    @FIBONACCIVEGA 14 лет назад

    increible el video es uno d lso mejroes que he visto

  • @xyq384
    @xyq384 13 лет назад

    liu guoliang...a true legend

  • @kenneth97913
    @kenneth97913 13 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix What's the song at 3:02? It sounds really nice

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @oryxfreeride Yeah bro,this point is amazing!But the quality is too low for a video HD:(

  • @TimoBollFan09
    @TimoBollFan09 14 лет назад

    Thanks for upload! love it :)

  • @CooleYouri
    @CooleYouri 13 лет назад

    nice quality!

  • @CertifriedRatBastrad
    @CertifriedRatBastrad Год назад

    (NEW) - 12 years ago

  • @kevziro
    @kevziro 13 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix what's the song at 0:38?? it's awesome

  • @jlgt2925
    @jlgt2925 8 лет назад +1

    What the heck is that ball in 4:45, that looks so amazing

    • @jlgt2925
      @jlgt2925 8 лет назад

      And who's the guy served that ball

    • @MrSebiak
      @MrSebiak 8 лет назад

      He zhi Wen

  • @vianndu44
    @vianndu44 14 лет назад

    pas assez longue lol! super video

  • @MrJonas04
    @MrJonas04 14 лет назад

    awesome video!

  • @donluna2000
    @donluna2000 12 лет назад

    Oh . . and Yan Sen, lee jung woo and chang peng lung. These THREE DOZEN guys won most of the titles that the MILLIONS and MILLIONS of shakehanders could only dream of. The penhold system is superior! The penhold athlete is THE athlete par excellance! A shakehander must be embarrassed for losing against a penholder because the penhold system is ten times more difficult! Get the best 500 shakehanders (after 1952) and all they have are a few scraps

  • @ratankirti3185
    @ratankirti3185 8 лет назад

    Ma Lin is a lion and I luv Ryu Seong Min

  • @HandballNinja
    @HandballNinja 14 лет назад

    I'd like to see the power of antispin or the power of pips

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @FIBONACCIVEGA Wow,thanks a lot man!:)

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @WazzaScooba Thanks for your comment man!;)

  • @srajban
    @srajban 14 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix xu xin,ma lin and wang hao

  • @raulwarddearaujo6019
    @raulwarddearaujo6019 8 лет назад +4

    double bounce in 5:17 ??

  • @yordancho
    @yordancho 14 лет назад

    4:45 was also insane

  • @veiksneeger
    @veiksneeger 14 лет назад

    perfect.

  • @Irfan87
    @Irfan87 13 лет назад

    Geca, what's the title of the song that starts at 0:38?

  • @yobmas722
    @yobmas722 13 лет назад

    @GecaPhoenix at 1:51 How old was Ma long there?

  • @donluna2000
    @donluna2000 12 лет назад

    wang hao, ko lai chak, chang yenshu, he zhiwen, ma lin, xu xin, wang zengyi, jesus Jesus cantero, hugo hoyama, liu guoliang, li ching, kaii yoshida, kan yo, ryu seung min, kim taek soo, yoo nam kyu, guo yuehua, jiang jialiang, chen longcan, xi enting, chuang tse tung, mitsuro khono, xie saike, seiji ono, shigeo itoh, rong guotuan, ichiro ogimura, toshiaki tanaka, hiroji satoh, kim ki taek, lee chul seung, leung chu yan. these are the penhold immortals, who have the lion's share of TITLES

  • @Nakadnas21
    @Nakadnas21 11 лет назад

    Great video.

  • @Irfan87
    @Irfan87 14 лет назад

    Camera man at 4:40 going "Aha, table tennis i see."

  • @Donnerbalken_
    @Donnerbalken_ 14 лет назад

    Amazing ;) two steps from hell an geca for the win^^

  • @MagisVizNapoli
    @MagisVizNapoli 13 лет назад

    sei un mostroo geca!

  • @yordancho
    @yordancho 14 лет назад

    whoah who was that at 4:20?

  • @boatransa
    @boatransa 12 лет назад

    where i find a single video of this serve 4:45 ?

  • @sarimsalmam407
    @sarimsalmam407 11 лет назад +2

    You shAkehand people don't know that penhold gives u the best spin so penhold is way better

  • @GecaPhoenix
    @GecaPhoenix  14 лет назад

    @IxchoO21 Hey bro,check out: 4:55 ;)
    Wang Jian Jun vs Ma Lin! :)
    Good match;)

  • @maxk880
    @maxk880 13 лет назад

    are you dutch? i hear dutch commentary