The Ideal Player - Bot Lane + Support | LEC Winter 2024

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  • Опубликовано: 25 фев 2024
  • We asked some of our LEC Bot Laners and Supports to create their Ideal player based on different categories. How would you make your ideal bot laner or support player?
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  • @Mercensis
    @Mercensis 2 месяца назад +538

    Alvaro has great knowledge about other regions, great to see

    • @lioky
      @lioky 2 месяца назад +38

      same for Supa, honestly im not surprised now that theyre doing good

    • @SereneMars
      @SereneMars 2 месяца назад +2

      He's saying ON is a great enchanter support just shows he doesn't watch LPL

    • @lioky
      @lioky 2 месяца назад +21

      @@SereneMars on is doing enchanters the best in the lpl.

    • @SereneMars
      @SereneMars 2 месяца назад +1

      @@lioky you don’t watch lpl either then

    • @lioky
      @lioky 2 месяца назад +7

      @@SereneMars name one better enchanter support than on in the lpl rtd

  • @marku304
    @marku304 2 месяца назад +206

    "Jin Air Greenwings Teddy" 😭 I felt so old hearing that

    • @arnabmitra301
      @arnabmitra301 2 месяца назад +1

      Jin Air tho😅
      Yeah feels so long ago.

    • @mounirab96
      @mounirab96 2 месяца назад

      What does it mean tho?

    • @HB-cg4jv
      @HB-cg4jv 2 месяца назад +21

      @@mounirab96lck old team, teddy played there before he joined skt, he always had perfect cs and broke a lot of cs records

    • @arnabmitra301
      @arnabmitra301 2 месяца назад +9

      @@mounirab96 Teddy was 1v9 every game in JinAir Greenwings

    • @user-wo6iw1li6e
      @user-wo6iw1li6e 2 месяца назад

      @@mounirab96He is Korean human nexus

  • @benedekcsillag3761
    @benedekcsillag3761 2 месяца назад +912

    Targamas dared to say himself as a best in anything?😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂💀

    • @alx5564
      @alx5564 2 месяца назад +13

      😭😭😭😭

    • @riftwalk2546
      @riftwalk2546 2 месяца назад +148

      he is best at staying quite in pro matches

    • @amirtorhan2762
      @amirtorhan2762 2 месяца назад +25

      The audacity 💀💀

    • @davynidruoj3687
      @davynidruoj3687 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@riftwalk2546 I think you are trying to say "quiet"

    • @antoniorengel8
      @antoniorengel8 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @ODramon
    @ODramon 2 месяца назад +433

    Targamas has spoken more in one single video than in the winter split.

  • @G2LoL
    @G2LoL 2 месяца назад +293

    3:38 laneswaps waiting room

    • @xandrethewinged9050
      @xandrethewinged9050 2 месяца назад +8

      Pls, upload a game with the team playing different lines, should be interesting

    • @SergeantONeill
      @SergeantONeill 2 месяца назад +2

      this guy above me is onto something guys, please let it happen

    • @marksern
      @marksern 2 месяца назад

      i mean caps already have a lec title as a adc, he even carried hard carried on kog'maw in the final without practice on the pic as in true caps fashion.

  • @ernestshorensbisenieks4949
    @ernestshorensbisenieks4949 2 месяца назад +113

    Alvaro and Upset GOATed picks

  • @joeybrez1
    @joeybrez1 2 месяца назад +112

    no way targamas has self confidence after that split 💀

    • @shiv_ring
      @shiv_ring 2 месяца назад +16

      They might've recorded this before Winter split. I think they have 1-2 big media days before each split and put out all the content over the coming split, and this is still tagged "LEC Winter 2024."

    • @QuimFreecss
      @QuimFreecss 2 месяца назад

      ​@@shiv_ringthey usually record it either at the begining or in the middle of the split, this one would be the former

  • @advitshah8139
    @advitshah8139 2 месяца назад +592

    Alvaro and Upset built savants while Targamas built something putrid

    • @davidd406
      @davidd406 2 месяца назад +34

      Upset's list was so giga based

    • @a200037
      @a200037 2 месяца назад

      You typed the based comment before I could, have my like.

    • @zealot2928
      @zealot2928 2 месяца назад +19

      the moment he said "targamas roaming" it was putrid

    • @poro3246
      @poro3246 2 месяца назад +5

      Truely this shows the gap is not only on the rift. There's a huge knowledge gap and difference in investment into the game. How can half your answers be European botlanes? That just shows you're not following the eastern scene at all but only know the top 1 or 2 of them.

    • @zealot2928
      @zealot2928 2 месяца назад +4

      @@poro3246 I think the only acceptable answer for EU botlane would be MikyX roaming ngl

  • @justus5879
    @justus5879 2 месяца назад +136

    Upset built exodia

  • @jdmd3247
    @jdmd3247 2 месяца назад +111

    Lil bro targamas said his roaming is good ☠️☠️

  • @QIYICI
    @QIYICI 2 месяца назад +20

    It's so good to see people give credit to ON.

  • @qmyzopa4142
    @qmyzopa4142 2 месяца назад +75

    never let targamas cook again 💀💀💀💀

  • @TryonixGaming
    @TryonixGaming 2 месяца назад +119

    I WANT THE SAME WITH LEC CASTERS!!
    Who's the best PBP caster at warming the room, commenting actions, the best banter, and so on!
    Repeat with color casters and interviewers :)

    • @amaranth7596
      @amaranth7596 2 месяца назад +1

      this but the casters talk about in-game lol
      who is a nightmare to play with? who runs it? who solo carries?

    • @cuchalopa
      @cuchalopa 2 месяца назад

      get this comment up guys

    • @DRAGONADElol
      @DRAGONADElol 2 месяца назад

      Amazing idea 💡💡

  • @xTriplexS
    @xTriplexS 2 месяца назад +34

    Rekkles mentioned! Let's go

    • @Saryan1
      @Saryan1 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, for AFK farming tho

  • @wolf-team0338
    @wolf-team0338 2 месяца назад +51

    Alvaro and Upset know league

  • @user-tc3vb4xc6y
    @user-tc3vb4xc6y 2 месяца назад +10

    Alvaro and Supa built exodia (weirdly ghost did have a deep champion pool) although i would have gone with Upset but his picks are kinda outdated. Alvaro's picks were very impressive though.

  • @t1kr107
    @t1kr107 2 месяца назад +11

    The Mad Lions Support (apologies for not know who he is) is actually insane. Wouldve swapped ON to Engage and put meiko as enchanter
    Trading: Keria
    Roaming: Missing
    Enchanters: Meiko
    Poke/Ranged: Keria
    Engage: ON
    Teamfighting: Delight

    • @Tempearley
      @Tempearley 2 месяца назад +2

      Alvaro

    • @jdmd3247
      @jdmd3247 2 месяца назад

      The video literally introduced his name, unless you’re either blind, ur just dumb

  • @btvitek1671
    @btvitek1671 2 месяца назад +41

    None naming Meiko for enchanters sad...

  • @ro_stock2083
    @ro_stock2083 2 месяца назад +72

    Upset knows

    • @riftwalk2546
      @riftwalk2546 2 месяца назад +8

      he knows how to miss worlds

  • @_papasparta_-txc-4730
    @_papasparta_-txc-4730 2 месяца назад +6

    It took a whole split but we finally got to hear Targamas' voice

  • @user-ux3jp9oo7r
    @user-ux3jp9oo7r 2 месяца назад +6

    It is so interesting to me how much this shows into each player's "vod watching" and who they wanna be. If you look closely at these players and their picks you'll realize how the players who picked better players are on average better players.

  • @anis7672
    @anis7672 2 месяца назад +5

    alvaro such a great picks , i thought about delight alot , hes underrated

  • @shreeshful
    @shreeshful 2 месяца назад +7

    MAD aiming for the MSI and Worlds! It's great to see this young team perform so well and analyse the best!
    The current best ADCs are all from LCK! I'm glad to see the shout-out to the KaiSa God (Gala)!

  • @harrypolden8573
    @harrypolden8573 2 месяца назад +236

    Upset actually knew what he was talking about there.
    Not saying Uzi for trading is a crime

    • @axb_zero8457
      @axb_zero8457 2 месяца назад +59

      and alvaro also had a really good list for sups

    • @tehAmbi
      @tehAmbi 2 месяца назад +15

      Both Guma and Uzi are crazy good laner. Its not outrageous to put Guma imo. They always have lead in their lane.

    • @baraenbojassen6611
      @baraenbojassen6611 2 месяца назад +1

      Since when was Uzi's trading his good skill? Put him on farming or teamfighting

    • @tehAmbi
      @tehAmbi 2 месяца назад +26

      @@baraenbojassen6611 Uzi main strength was definitely his laning lol he would brute force every lane to create huge lead and then popoff in fight

    • @MsJuanpepino
      @MsJuanpepino 2 месяца назад +2

      @@tehAmbi ye probably bc hes playing with the best support in the history. Id love to see him without keria ngl

  • @anony_mous8681
    @anony_mous8681 2 месяца назад +6

    Ooooh you can tell Alvaro has been watching recent LCK and LPL matches pretty closely

  • @krizel2447
    @krizel2447 2 месяца назад

    Love this type of content LEC! :)

  • @_yasin_kucuk_
    @_yasin_kucuk_ 2 месяца назад +3

    Support
    Trading: Keria
    Roaming: BeryL
    Enchanter: Meiko
    Ranged: Keria
    Engage: BeryL
    Team fighting: Lehends

  • @namickmaouche5500
    @namickmaouche5500 2 месяца назад

    We need more of these pls

  • @Purby_
    @Purby_ 2 месяца назад +1

    Cool and refreshing video theme. I enjoyed it a lot 😃

  • @Cabbage1337
    @Cabbage1337 2 месяца назад +9

    For an engage support I'll always take Hylissang, its what he's built for (even if it means he ints a lot)

  • @dou5397
    @dou5397 2 месяца назад +10

    Nahhh Targamas has the face to say himself wtf is that guy on

  • @bryantwang024
    @bryantwang024 2 месяца назад +2

    Alvaro and Upset made great picks

  • @liew4511
    @liew4511 2 месяца назад

    I love this concept !

  • @alv1572
    @alv1572 2 месяца назад +2

    ALVARO COOKING WITH THIS OME 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @mokulectodupa
    @mokulectodupa 2 месяца назад

    Weird that nobody mentioned Beryl, tho it might be coz of lack of shotcalling category, but bro is a beast

  • @sergiomaldonadodelgado2944
    @sergiomaldonadodelgado2944 2 месяца назад

    This format is awesome.

  • @vyceros7062
    @vyceros7062 2 месяца назад +8

    AP bot is Perkz in 2019, the only valid option

  • @LeksaLee
    @LeksaLee 2 месяца назад +5

    hyli and trymbi being mentioned along with eastern supports fills me with joy

    • @willmollard9078
      @willmollard9078 2 месяца назад +1

      It’s super troll but hey respect.

  • @akaliislifeakaliislove5968
    @akaliislifeakaliislove5968 2 месяца назад

    Damn how nice of the editors to put a tier 2 lck player next to the other legendary players on the thumbnail

  • @12walid34
    @12walid34 2 месяца назад +3

    No one said Perkz on champ pool / ap part , sadge

    • @zev_nx
      @zev_nx 2 месяца назад +1

      Maybe 2019 Perkz but 2024 Perkz doesn't look good on anything 😂

    • @12walid34
      @12walid34 2 месяца назад +1

      @@zev_nx when one of them mentioned uzi, you think he is talking about 2024 uzi?

  • @elderyaag3534
    @elderyaag3534 2 месяца назад

    Really cool idea!

  • @PaoloBosi
    @PaoloBosi 2 месяца назад +2

    I hope Upset can find a good career as a coach soon. He seems very knowladgeble but in game, he chockes so much.

  • @arielponsati545
    @arielponsati545 2 месяца назад

    1 min and you can tell who's taking time watching other players and learning xD

  • @cacouillefripouille
    @cacouillefripouille 2 месяца назад +10

    the fact that nobody said ADC perkz for AP botlaners or champion pool is kinda crazy to me

  • @samwisehuluberlu2210
    @samwisehuluberlu2210 Месяц назад +1

    No, it was Beryl who started playing ADC champs into support. Not Keria who was massively inspired by him.
    How Beryl cannot get any praise like that?
    Also shotcalling shouldn't be category for supports?

  • @backsii5317
    @backsii5317 2 месяца назад +12

    Hans Based

  • @awareclueless
    @awareclueless 2 месяца назад +4

    No Meiko Pick is criminal

  • @khadrathunderborn5180
    @khadrathunderborn5180 2 месяца назад

    It’s so strange to see T1 next to Rekkles’ name

  • @yamiRic
    @yamiRic 2 месяца назад

    MAD players are really smart. Especially the support player

  • @Ed-hq1ze
    @Ed-hq1ze 2 месяца назад

    Kabo picking himself after that split is funny.

  • @gadgas6905
    @gadgas6905 2 месяца назад

    Targams almost made me choked!! But ay respect

  • @javierpda
    @javierpda 2 месяца назад

    Champion pool is Samash, my man will play every single champ except conventional ADCs this year

  • @suhyeonkim3069
    @suhyeonkim3069 2 месяца назад

    Ruler + Keria was incredible during the asian games

  • @aronwith2a
    @aronwith2a 2 месяца назад

    Targamas picking himself speaks VOLUMES.

  • @envgaming
    @envgaming 2 месяца назад

    Alvaro knows ball

  • @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719
    @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719 2 месяца назад

    I think it's really funny that Upset low-key wanted to just say Uzi for most of the chategories. lmao.

  • @19Pietruszka20
    @19Pietruszka20 2 месяца назад

    none mention Beryl xdd

  • @yologoodvibes193
    @yologoodvibes193 2 месяца назад

    3:26 super agreed, GALA deserves more recognisation, hes always dragged down by the team, i think hes one of the best mechanical adcs out there

    • @KaramelLife
      @KaramelLife 2 месяца назад +3

      Wasn't he the one who was solokilled multiple times by Guma?

  • @tudorlungu709
    @tudorlungu709 2 месяца назад +1

    targamas lmao, no way lil bro snuck himself on the list 💀

  • @Jourro
    @Jourro 2 месяца назад

    Nobody said Beryl? :o

  • @xDanielzao
    @xDanielzao 2 месяца назад +1

    Galla ? dude was crazy on 2 champs

    • @yologoodvibes193
      @yologoodvibes193 2 месяца назад

      Dude is gwtting dragged down by the team since his career bro, pulled off idk how many pentakills in just 3 years, maybe more than 10 xdd and not on 2 champs bro

    • @xDanielzao
      @xDanielzao 2 месяца назад

      @@yologoodvibes193 sure.

  • @trytytka88
    @trytytka88 2 месяца назад +1

    no one mentioning jackeylove is insane

  • @Daniel-ik6wi
    @Daniel-ik6wi 2 месяца назад

    Upset building an adc player to replace him in worlds 2021

  • @mahatmaniggandhi2898
    @mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 месяца назад

    ghost for champ pool?

  • @vez3834
    @vez3834 2 месяца назад +6

    Can't wait to see Dom fry Targamas

  • @thekratos619
    @thekratos619 2 месяца назад

    1:33 The way EU plays against Asian teams

  • @kierannnn2
    @kierannnn2 2 месяца назад +6

    Ghost for champ pool? Wasn't he the guy who played Jhin only

    • @DarkorbitForever12
      @DarkorbitForever12 2 месяца назад +9

      Yeah blud was smoking something 😭 ghost was only ever good on weakside garbo champs

  • @PaoloBosi
    @PaoloBosi 2 месяца назад +3

    Targamas voted himself.

    • @PaoloBosi
      @PaoloBosi 2 месяца назад +2

      He truly doesn't know anything aside from the top matches at worlds and what he plays. A frog in a well.

  • @arturoflash
    @arturoflash 2 месяца назад +1

    Imagine not taking Bwipo for AP botlane, smh

  • @wayfang2646
    @wayfang2646 2 месяца назад

    i would say
    1 keria 1 viper
    2 mikyx 2 uzi
    3 meiko 3 ruler
    4 keria 4 ghost
    5 mikyx 5 gumayusi
    6 mikyx 6 caps

  • @lukaspalyza_
    @lukaspalyza_ 2 месяца назад +18

    no Beryl on poke/ranged support is a sin xd

    • @guslarz
      @guslarz 2 месяца назад +4

      Imo Keria is a little bit better on them

    • @xuxe
      @xuxe 2 месяца назад +6

      Keria is the best ranged support player by far, comparing him to beryl is the real sin lmao

    • @turooru
      @turooru 2 месяца назад +5

      Beryl on ranged supports LMAO
      even at his peak ranged supports were not his specialty.

    • @belancicm
      @belancicm 2 месяца назад +1

      I wanted to put Beryl for melee supports actually, there are players better than him for sure, but he was always SO goddamn annoying, peeling really well in teamfights and shutting down enemy carries

    • @vincent6845
      @vincent6845 2 месяца назад

      LMAO he won worlds playing heimerdinger​@@turooru
      LMAO
      LMAO

  • @kussykussy1646
    @kussykussy1646 2 месяца назад +4

    Targamas is trolling even off stage. You can't pick player twice

    • @sentoo7606
      @sentoo7606 2 месяца назад

      not MORE then twice

  • @bastianvalero4612
    @bastianvalero4612 2 месяца назад

    Solo laners now!

  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks176 2 месяца назад +2

    Alvaro I owe you an apology, I wasn’t really familiar with your game

  • @aziaufa418
    @aziaufa418 2 месяца назад

    Actually Gumayusi trading is the worst😂😂😂, can't forget he keep getting low hp when oner isn't there to cover bot, he's the best at team fighting tho.

  • @alvarofernandez9345
    @alvarofernandez9345 2 месяца назад

    BRO NO ONE SAID THE GOAT BERYL WTF

  • @TorSiiK
    @TorSiiK 2 месяца назад +4

    am i that bias or the only guys with some brain its my guys on mdk?

  • @rotterrotty5236
    @rotterrotty5236 2 месяца назад

    Ap carry…like, isnt that too easy to say? Perkz all the way🥰

  • @madscot_
    @madscot_ 2 месяца назад +3

    Targamas opens his mouth more to feed himself than communicate in game.

  • @valentinleveque5678
    @valentinleveque5678 2 месяца назад +7

    how not saying viper about teamfighting....

  • @fullfradi95
    @fullfradi95 2 месяца назад +2

    WTF how the hell 2 times worlds champion Beryl getting overlooked from support

    • @namfingerstyle8403
      @namfingerstyle8403 2 месяца назад

      If there is Macro option then he is. But he is not the best at other options

  • @sebby_bs4007
    @sebby_bs4007 2 месяца назад +2

    Ap botlaner perkz

  • @BDuckie100
    @BDuckie100 2 месяца назад +1

    JackeyLove disrespect man :T

  • @alfonsorodriguez7713
    @alfonsorodriguez7713 2 месяца назад

    Not saying perkz for ap botlaners kinda cringe

  • @javierherraizperona4283
    @javierherraizperona4283 2 месяца назад

    Álvaro basado

  • @KC_Nautik
    @KC_Nautik 2 месяца назад

    #KCORP 💙

  • @Nereko0
    @Nereko0 2 месяца назад

    Targamas choose himself as "better in roaming"
    Just wow

  • @faildrian42
    @faildrian42 2 месяца назад +2

    Naah, Targamas saying himself is just wild xd ... He's basically the weakest link of LEC

  • @forconsilience
    @forconsilience 2 месяца назад

    No Deft? Really?

  • @lexafromnowhere
    @lexafromnowhere 2 месяца назад

    Offended nobody said beryl the goat 🐐

  • @YATZIwastaken
    @YATZIwastaken 2 месяца назад

    aint no way targamas said himself XD, in LEC alone hylli, mikyx, trymbi are like 10x better roamers

  • @TheDexi256
    @TheDexi256 2 месяца назад +3

    MAD know League

  • @MikaelWallentin.
    @MikaelWallentin. 2 месяца назад +3

    Smash + Rekkles
    Cathedral approves
    Edit
    Thanks for the like cathedral

  • @doing63
    @doing63 2 месяца назад +1

    cool

  • @samwisehuluberlu2210
    @samwisehuluberlu2210 Месяц назад

    Saying Gumayusi on Draven when Viper/Deft still exists. Okay.

  • @severinkolakov4361
    @severinkolakov4361 2 месяца назад +1

    No one mentioning Perkz for ADC is criminal. He single-handedly took over the role for two years.

  • @QIYICI
    @QIYICI 2 месяца назад +2

    not saying JKL or Uzi for mechanical skill is insane.

  • @CHsuuz
    @CHsuuz 2 месяца назад

    hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama hans sama

  • @ahmed.welhezi
    @ahmed.welhezi 2 месяца назад +1

    Ideal support player (IMO)
    Trading: Keria
    Roaming: Beryl
    Enchanters: Meiko
    Poke/Ranged: Keria
    Engage: Wolf
    Teamfighting: Missing
    Ideal ADC player (IMO)
    Trading: UZI
    Farming: Ruler
    Teamfighting: Deft
    Champion Pool: Guma
    Mechanical Skill: Guma
    Ap botlaner: Perkz (yes)

    • @azrrrrrrrr
      @azrrrrrrrr 2 месяца назад

      guma??? u must be trolling. dude cant play zeri and you put hi for champ pool??

    • @Kkskrog
      @Kkskrog 2 месяца назад

      ​@@azrrrrrrrr lol just zeri that signal champs that he doesn't play and you are targeting on that lol such t1 hater what happened to the zeri abusers in World 2022 and 2023 huh ?? Who was best adc in those tournament if have eyes your father gumuyusi

    • @silkthread7248
      @silkthread7248 2 месяца назад +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@KkskrogSmartest T1 fan. Says a counter point, “OMG SUCH T1 HATER. WHO WAS BEST ADC????? GUMAYUSI IF YOU DONT AGREE YOU DONT HAVE EYES CAUSE IM ALWAYS RIGHT.”

    • @ahmed.welhezi
      @ahmed.welhezi 2 месяца назад +1

      @@azrrrrrrrr You missed the line when I litterlay said IMO...

    • @yagamijoestar490
      @yagamijoestar490 2 месяца назад

      reallity :
      supp :
      Trading: Keria
      Roaming: Keria
      Enchanters: Keria
      Poke/Ranged: Keria
      Engage: Keria
      Teamfighting: Keria
      adc :
      Trading: guma
      Farming: Ruler
      Teamfighting: guma
      Champion Pool: Guma
      Mechanical Skill: Guma
      Ap botlaner: GUma

  • @yagamijoestar490
    @yagamijoestar490 2 месяца назад +2

    reallity :
    Trading: Keria
    Roaming: Keria
    Enchanters: Keria
    Poke/Ranged: Keria
    Engage: Keria
    Teamfighting: Keria
    adc :
    Trading: guma
    Farming: Ruler
    Teamfighting: guma
    Champion Pool: Guma
    Mechanical Skill: Guma
    Ap botlaner: GUma