I was Skeptical: Witt Machine Mod 1
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I wonder what would happen if I put VSO as a code at Checkout? hmmmmm
You might get a discount!
@@toddk1377 or you might get a price increase
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WHO IS BRANDON?
@@denniswolff7300 Buck Fiden's nephew
@@denniswolff7300 it's code for "I'm a chud"...
I'll have mine on a db meter shortly for folks looking for that info
Yessir 💪👍
Excellent
Excellent
Awesome! Do various barrel lengths please 🙏
Good info. Thanks.
The level of noise reduction is impressive but what is even more is how the recoil is tamed. Awesome little guy!
I absolutely love these things.
The physics of reducing signature apply to reducing recoil impulse. Yay.
There is an app for iPhones for noise/sound measuring. Certainly not scientifically accurate but its ballpark. Best for showing differences or trends. I had it on my last iPhone but haven't loaded it to my current one.
Who the hell likes muzzle blast at close range of a high or hyper velocity ultra magnum! Sound reduction is a beautiful thing. Shoot more accurate and don't flinch while varmint hunting or extended range time. Being respectful to fellow hunters and competitors on the shooting lanes ! Let's be real the older we get the harder to hear anyway ! Let's see more of them in use! And no tax stamp b.s. ! Just respectful shooting.
Good sales pitch. From the guy with one ear plug
I've got their big body 223. The first day I took it out on the range everyone wanted to know what it was because it performed so well for it's size. Then I told them how little it cost. Pretty sure I sold a few that day.
how much?
@@Davidautofull $240 after a 20% sale. It's $299 currently.
@@smpage041 no tbf 200 tax?
TAKE MY MONEY.
I’ll never understand why suppressors are so damn expensive.
@@paullowell3342 because of how hard they are to get, the people who have kept the suppressor industry alive want good suppressors, not just some crap tube of aluminum that they would have to throw away after a few hunting seasons. obviously that's the extreme example, but in Europe they literally use aluminum disposable suppressors.
Just got mine out of jail, love it! Its very quiet and a nice sound to boot.
This video is the first one of yours I’ve see. I really like your presentation style. Felt like I was hanging out with my one buddy who is more into, and more knowledgeable about, guns than the rest of us. And I always really appreciate that friend.
First you place the firearm on a wood table, insure the optics are securely mounted for this well improve leverage and direct a 250 pound man to seat on it. Second locate the largest adjustable wrench you have in your tool box to remove the device. A method of removing a muzzle device you well not see on the Brownells channel.
I fly solo so I put a large screwdriver or bar between my scope and upper receiver as something to pry against, I don't have beefy friends.
@@randomidiot8142 😆
I use a hammer to break it loose before I sit on it to wrench on it myself..
Not really, I make my wife sit on it 😆
🤣😂
I've got the witt machine big boy .223 direct thread and it is phenomenal. I run it on an 11.875" PWS upper
Would you consider it hearing safe for home defense indoors?
I've never been the biggest fan of monocore suppressors but this little guy is pretty sweet looking... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!
This sounds like a great option for keeping it short...in the overall length, not the bank account. Thanks for the review!
A win for us little guys! Big performance from a small can!! LETS GOOO!!!
Everything so far that I have used from Witt Machine Company is legit. I am currently using a clamp on muzzle brake on my Weatherby Vanguard chambered in 7mm Rem Mag (Not a Mark V), it reduced my felt recoil by at least 50%. With my hand loads, I shoot 1/4 MOA groups. Great products!!
They make some great muzzle brakes. Not the cheapest but not "Tactical Big Brand Name" expensive. Superb quality. Their flat looking brake really tames the 7.62x54R. 😊
Pro tip for taking off things from a paid mechanic; put your wrench on it and smack the end with a mallet. Much easier and less awkward torque on whatever your taking off.
I've had the big body 223, and dirty 30 for a bit now. Love both. use the 223 on 22lr more than anything. I like the fact it can be removed tbh.
The amount of gas coming out of your BCG when that thing is on is insane, has does all that gas taste, lol. I have the Witt SME lightweight and I love it. It seems to change the shooting experience quite a bit from the shooters perspective. I am really thinking about getting a can.
Pretty sure he just had a freshly oiled set up.
That's what adjustable gas blocks are for. Just don't forget where the charging handle is
I've had my eye on those. Thanks for sharing your tests/thoughts/opinions.
Hahaha .. break your gun 😃. . .
TRY to remember how to use that adjustable wrench .
DO NOT put the heavy load to the outside of the adjustable jaw , you'll eventually round off a nut crown ! [In other words , you were using it upside down].
THANKS , I learned something new today from you AND had some laughs too !
just behind the barrel nut,
that goes around the thin threaded end of the upper,
is the place where empty brass exits.
the bottom of the upper grabs that union spot with about a quarter inch contact.
connected all the way around except there.
thats where it breaks when twisted. upper is toast.
That gas block thingy is definitely interesting.
Microphones auto level the sound, so what suppressor reviewers need to do is have a consistent sound source like a beep or drum that plays right after the shot. Then the viewers can more accurately compare the relative sound reduction. (Or shoot steel)
we can hear the trigger reset after every shot
Decimeter
There's no reason to make a suppressor video without decibel meters, period.
Well you've convinced me. The .30 cal can looks like the way to go. It was between the R2 or the Resonator K. Good review bro.
Thanks for reviewing an affordable can
Wow 🤔 I was surprised to hear these results. Thank you for sharing
Gemtech G5 is this size. And MilSpec for the Navy. But is twice the money. I have one. And I like it a lot. But I’d like to try this Witt model.
18.00 for a box of 50 17WSM rounds, I have several hundred rounds, and I’ve always thought suppressors were out of budget. Love to have one nonetheless
$18.00? I’ve wanted a .17 wsm so badly since I found out they exist. If they’re only 18$ for a box of 50 that’s pretty good.
Also, i really love those ruger bolt 22s... way cool.
Great presentation and examination of this product.
On "fighting" rifles i prefer k cans (small suppressors) for mobility, its more to take the edge off and not immediately blow out my hearing while still keeping the gun short.
Fuck yes finally someone did a review on this can! Been thinking about getting one in 9mm.
Mr. Rocset got a taste of his own medicine
Very thorough and informative video
super great info for the joe blow six pack.
Fancy enough, but not too fancy.
Love it brotha.
Keep up the great work
I glanced at the headline and thought it said you were Skeletal… and I was about to say, “Me as well!”… and Johnny Lawrence and the rest of Cobra Kai agreed!
I can see the .30 cal one on a 300 blk out. To get a nice shot package
Keep playing with the nfa guys👍
Sounds like the 22 got high pitch louder like the Ecco comes out loud and clear ! But the second suppressed really made a difference. Great video thanks for sharing love the detail that makes the info worth while !
I built a form 1 6" titanium suppressor that is surprisingly quiet for its size. I've had people comment on how quiet it is for the size and then they are amazed when they find out I built it myself (I didn't physically machine each part, more assembly than anything). I used tool steel NASCAR valve spring retainers as the baffles as they are shaped very similar to a baffle already and fit the body without modification. With titanium spacers, mount, and end cap it comes in under 16oz. You can shoot it on a 16" gun without ear pro. On my 5.56 BRN-180s, its still comfortable to the ear but I still wear ear pro with it just in case.
The Mod-1 looks to have a bigger internal volume than mine so I'm not surprised that it would work well for its size. The industry standard threading is a big plus. I just bought an adapter for my can so I can use that thread pitch for other mounting options. Glad to see more companies embracing that.
My next build is a .30 cal can that will be a tank. Its a stainless steel tube that is welded to a Surefire QD mount that was cut out of a Surefire Warden and welded to the tube. I got a guy that welds roll cages to TIG weld the mount in place. It will probably weigh 2lbs but it will be bomb proof for use on a 16" .308 and whatever else I can throw at it.
@@peepo-the-boomer SD Tactical is where I bought all of my stuff. I'd be careful ordering anything from the companies that sell anything that even looks like an internal baffle. A lot of those guys got popped by the ATF not too long ago.
SD Tactical only sells tubes, spacers, mounts, and muzzle devices so you're pretty safe ordering from him. He's been around for years too.
As far as baffles, I use valve spring retainers. I found some NASCAR ones that fit my tube perfectly and have the proper hole size. There are plenty of tutorials online.
Just be careful about what you're ordering if you don't have an approved Form 1 yet. If you're just going to build one without a Form 1 then you should probably try to get a trusted friend to order some parts while you order others.
Maglite, washers, lol
Interesting, I got their tube a long time ago, they used to use these freeze plugs for buffles and now the valve spring retainers huh? I find it so ironic that all these DYI form 1 suppressors all using car parts, first it was oil filters than freeze plugs and now valve spring retainers LOL. Did you get titanium spacers from SD Tactical too? I see on eBay these NASCAR valve spring retainers are available in titanium too. What diameter do you need?
@@DimaProk I originally used stainless steel tubing for spacers. I just recently switched to titanium. That brought the can down to 12.8 ounces. The whole can is titanium except for the baffles.
My last 3 baffles are actually still freeze plugs that I formed into cones. I use a wider spacing at the rear and the spacing gradually gets smaller as you get to the front with the last 3 baffles having no spacers at all. The wall on the freeze plugs gives you just enough spacing so I left them in instead of cutting tiny titanium spacers and using valve spring retainers. I put the titanium end cap in my lathe and turned the inside into a cone shape as well to make one last "baffle".
I personally would not buy titanium valve spring retainers b/c they will likely erode much faster than the hardened tool steel ones. The steel ones are still very light, but way tougher. I shoot mine on a 10.5" 5.56 with no problems. You also seem to get a lot of sparking with all titanium baffles. If you want to use titanium baffles then at least make the first 2 baffles out of tool steel. Those take the brunt of the blast.
For the 1.5" O.D. tubing the I.D. is 1.36" +/- .001". You will need a 1.36" diameter valve spring retainer with a 6-7mm valve stem opening for use on a 5.56 gun with no modifications.
@@oldscratch3535 Thanks so much for the response. At 18.1oz mine is too damn heavy (titanium body and end caps), it's 8" though for 30 cal. But mainly I really really want one for my 9mm PC9 carbine, I missed out on most recent SilencerCo promotion where if you buy one can $800 value you get free Octane in 9mm or 45. What delayed me from jumping on the deal is that I wanted a user serviceable can in 30 cal because I like to shoot cast bullets I want to be able to take apart and clean it and I didn't see any available and in few days the Omega 300 were sold out! It was on sale too for $800 later it appeared again at 900 but also got sold out in a day. I might still buy the Octane because I want a really light can for 9mm and it can handle 300 blackout. The fact that yours down to 12.8 oz that's incredible, I wonder what an 8" would weight after reduction, well it's only one way to find out. P.S. I have a lathe too.
Looks like others have found out from Q that the taper is the only way to save threads from carbon lock. That muzzle brake looks very familiar... Oh it's because I see it everyday on my Sugar Weasel.
Thanks for all the testing you do and warning us about bad shit. Also the dry humor is great. Keep it up. One day Paul Harrell may adopt you if keep practicing!!! 😂😂 😂
The ASR has a taper before the threads. So does the YHM. Both of those pre-date Q by a lot.
Kevin didn't invent tapers.
@@TommyTombstone good luck telling the masses that.
@@TommyTombstone The real trick is to use a copper-based anti-seize paste on the threads but not the taper geometry; not only does the anti-seize do its thing but the hi-temp paste stays where it's put and occupies the dead space between the threads so the carbon doesn't really have a place to go. Since I've done this with my Griffin taper mounts stuck cans are the thing of the past AND they stay securely mounted.
@@ja0298 Kevin has created a cult of people who think he is a genius. We can educate them, but it will take time.
Q....
😂 😂 😂
Love your content. Hope I can get a can while its still legally an infringement on 2A
My thing is how would these be inside, seeing how it’s supposed to help the shooters ear, not the intruder. Looking at getting one for my 7.5 inch 300 blackout. I don’t want to make everyone else in the house go deaf. If I ever need to use it.
"Rearden manufactured Atlas Mount" ........ i see what you did there ....... i am sold
I loved the video and great info about a local manufacturer. One quibble.
Why in God's name did you use AvE's Swedish NutF**ker Wrench to remove the mounting device from the end of the barrel?
Regarding the statement that "rifle cans" don't need to be taken apart to clean, I have a different view of that. It depends on what calibers you are talking about. 5.56 cans generally never need to be taken apart. Other calibers though it's a much different story. Bigger, or slower, or less pressure cartridges will definitely leave a whole lot more behind and thus cleaning would be a good idea. Do they have to be taken apart? No. They can be cleaned at home but cleaned none the less.
In my experience you will kill the can before you gunk it up enough to compromise its performance
I bought an old Liberty Constitution last week. It's a big 1 3/4" diameter 4130 steel monocore. I understand fully welded cans are stronger, but nice to take it apart and clean it after 22LR or muddy day. It was Tough to decide an economy 223 Can. I was looking at these Witt Machine Cans, my local FFL stocks them, be decided to go with something larger and quieter. But then I saw these...
High intensity high heat cartridges tend to run clean, vs low pressure soot blasters like .22, 12 gauge, and 45.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel While I don't have the 'luxury' or experience killing a suppressor having a (non maintained) can could possibly contribute to an 'untimely death'. That said there are a hundred ways not related to any of this that could harm a suppressor. That said if a person has so much junk in the can that when they shake it carbon comes out the ends isn't really a good thing. Over on Sniper's Hide there is a really long thread about cleaning sealed cans, complete with LOTS of photos of cans that definitely needed cleaning up. Once every year or two (depending on the amount of shooting) it certainly won't hurt. For most of us I think the idea of an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... I weighed and cleaned two of my cans. The 5.56 didn't hardly gain any weight despite having a much larger round count. The 30 cal can, having maybe half the rounds of the 5.56 had 2-3 times (or more) of the carbon build up...Cleaning is not a requirement for anyone, but for me I will invest 10-20 bucks every other year just because I can.
Thx for the info. Been looking for a 30cal can for some time. This could be just what I need.
Cci .22 quiet would be stupid amazing in that setup
Definitely considering a can like this once I get my 16” Ruger AR 556 MPR. Always enjoy your detailed content, much love from Texas!
I’d start the paperwork before the gun if I were you
"Reardon Atlas Mount".... nice
I love my YHM but I’m fixin’ to drink this koolaid too. Need a small can for the Sub2K.
Another great suppressor made in Texas.
Physically shook my head as you broke that rock set.
Great vid though.
That was genius with the hat "sun shade" trick ..
I really liked the video impressive camera positioning too! Thanks for pulling it back from the actual firing position which you hardly see at all in other peoples videos. Everyone has there's right by them. GEEEZ Really nice looking suppressors too! I think at 12:29 mark of the video i could see night vision shooting into a hill. LOOked cool. Mm
It ain’t much but its honest work
Three baffle monocore. Still skeptical. Very skeptical. Will wait for PewScience.
More skeptical still of the 416 Stainless, 5.56 SBR fire will chew through that real quick-like, I'd compare this against the YHM Turbo K, another cost-effective can that has good performance but also offers an Inconel 718 blast baffle.
@@KidCorporate I don't think I'd buy anything from Witt Machine. IIRC they're claiming 136dB at the ear with their Canooter Valve. The Vox S is 136.4dB at the ear with subsonic .300 blackout from a bolt action. They're lying peddlers of cheap products, and they're going to cost people their hearing.
@@KidCorporate Stop buying fuel filters on Amazon if you don't know what a baffle strike is
it's too bad that camera sound recording always tries to mediate sound levels and you can't ever hear the true differences but you can get a good idea. If you listen to the suppressed shots, you can still hear everything going but you have to try to extrapolate, the initial impression is something akin to the John Wick terminal walkway scene where suppressed 9mm sounded like unattainable whispers.
Although this can isn't that quiet, it's a lot less than one would expect and is very impressive. Thumbs 👍
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken...
You can also use an Airgun pellet rifle 22cal for the ground hugs and it would be a lot cheaper.
I've got an idea for a suppressor that suppresses any round. pretty interesting concept, wish me luck ya'll. I'll be back in a year, and give an update.
Awesome! thanks for the review!
I lost it when the gun got to wear the cap.
Awesome video man, thank you
Nice review. Was unfamiliar wit Witt Machine. I’m going shopping.
Wow, with the 17 you can actually see the projectile leave the barrel.
I thought "There's no such thing as back pressure"
Did I use the term back pressure? I did not. Dwell time increases.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Excuse me blowback at like 1:25. Plus wouldn't it be the pressure curve increase and then dwell time is how long the gun is locked up for
@@DRP3ck3r it depends how you measure it. If you are talking about relativity then yes, the pressure will be higher than zero. If we are talking about raw pressure, no it will actually be lower. More volume, per rate of burn
@@VSO_Gun_Channel That defines the difference between pressure time vs dwell time how?
@@DRP3ck3r im thinkin maybe from fire till begining to open is dwell.
fire till pressure is gone is pressure time.
the pressure keeps going when open to keep the bolt moving.
im gonna have to find a time to use that screenname.
“Perfectly Gassed, ejecting 4:30-5 o’clock”😳ummm that’s well into over-gassed territory. Especially when that’s before you put the can on. Perfectly gassed is more in the 3 o’clock area.
Man I been trying to take my mod-1 apart. I soaked it in the kitchen sink all night. Still can’t separate it. I’ve even F’d up the finish on the can 🤦🏾♂️
Wow 32 year old James Reeves, I’m 3 years away from that 😭
I have several Witt Machine brakes. All are very good. No Sups yet.
I like your little bolt-action rifle.
I've never seen one like that before, who makes it?
It would've been nice to see a comparison with smokeless powder.
All centerfire rounds nowadays use smokeless powder
You turned the volume down or something😅 lol sheesh I wasn’t expecting it to be like that
Ummm.. yes let me help with words, sir.
Accuracy = ability to hit bullseye
Precision = repeatability
As a land surveyor that is HAMMERED into your lil noodle for 4 solid years. You can have a very poorly accurate gun that is extremely precise. Just by adding a can to it. Words matter
The .22 sounded like it was coming from out fifty yards away.
you opened your package, OKAY , you didn't UN-BOX.
Since a solvent trap is now considered a suppressor without any modifications, how long before the ATF declares these legal devices are illegal?
My 6.5 stayed at 1/4" MOA and the POI did not change went I added a suppressor.
Very nice review.
Would you please review the 30cal version on 300blk?
That 5.7 clip was crazy lol
Size doesn't matter with a suppressor, it's all about the baffling magic on the inside which you can't see. (Well till you crack it open)
Size does matter, it just matters less than good baffle design.
Very interesting. Thanks for the vid.
Don't know why...but when he said "That'll do Pig!" lmao I instantly subscribed... Dunno exactly what it is but I like him lol No homo 🤣
Great video Kurt. I'd LOVE to see some Form 1 suppressor content. #LetsGoBrandon
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See hats do come in handy beside hiding a bad hair day.
Can you do a similar review of the Mod-1 with a 30 cal can?
HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE BANNISH .223 SILENCER BY SILENCER CENTRAL SIOUX FALLS S. DAK.
22 is louder on video with the can rather than without. Strange.
Curious on what you think about PewScience, since you are also a data nerd.
His data has made it super easy for my customers to choose a can.
I think he provides a valuable service
Try a can called SandMan series by a company called Dead Air
Did this suppressor accept the dead air keymo adapter or keymicro adapter. And we’re you using the long 3 prong flash hider?
Yes you’ve got to buy the nomad-30 keymo adapter for the mod-1. I emailed Witt Machine and asked them the same question and that’s what they told me.
I like the Charlotte's web reference thatll do pig thatll do
A comment for the YT Gods to be angry at content people want to see.
This was a good review. I’d like one of those cans. How much are they?
Thank you 😊
Didn't bring caliper to group test! Not enough ammo hunt ground chuck with 22 unzeroed rifle .the guy who forgot hi rifle when he went hunting, forgot water on desert trip forgot to bring baseball when going to play catch. With his son lol!
Suppressors should be an osha requirement lol
Just found your content. Solid presentation! What's the weight? Do you have any experience with the YHM Turbo K? If so, how do they compare?
I approached YHM some years ago to do some testing, they wouldn’t agree to the terms of service, no big deal, but that means I can have no opinion about their product because I have not tested it myself.
how did you get the dead air qd on the wittman can? i kinda want that combo
Would this suppressor work with their 3 chamber break that comes with the SME "sound mitigation Equipment" that they make? I can't find any info on compatibility on their website....
Let's go Brandon!