I was fortunate enough to get to work at A&A Van Meter SP for two seasons. I got to learn so much in my time there and i appreciate what you guys have done here. Their history (the Missouria tribe) being more or less lost to the ages and not talked about often is a tragedy.
The Missouri Indians actually lived southern minnesota for a time during the 1700 an early 1800s. The Missouri Indians were pushed back by the Dakota sioux Indian warriors into the Iowa and Nebraska region. An the tribe also met Louis and Clark northern expedition at council bluffs Nebraska.
Interesting presentation. Growing up on a farm in NE Mo i often wondered about the peoples there before me. Old men told stories about a battle at The Sinkhole, buffalo wallows(is that even a thing?), and an indian trace/trail was visible and obvious that i could follow across the farm. There were spearpoints to find in the creek and a mound my parents told us to stay away from and not talk about.(there was a man in town with a reputation for trespassing to dig things up, if you know what i mean). Very "fertile soil" to grow a fascination, respect, and imagination in the mind of a young boy. Unfortunately there just isn't a lot of information on tribes that lived in or visited Missouri, and almost all the info is speculative works on Mississippian culture. I own the book highlighted in this video and am happy that someone that shares my interest professionally took the time to research and write it. I understand he's not a native speaker, but it was fascinating to hear the translations from his friends.
❤Hi! Trying to find out what Indians lived on the Missouri River before John Wolfe created Wolfe Point that later became Lupus! Thanks! these sites are great
Hi Mike, im doing research for a coming roadside Attraction in Morgan Co. on Little Proctor Rd. You can Help me a lot. Im looking all over for references to Dan'l Boon and his interactian with the osage particularly. in the Overland stage rout. As Far as I know it is Mo - J RD. The end on the north shore of the Osage River. Think Williamsburg in the ozarks 70 or so acres Primative Camp Ground.
This wouldn't have been Daniel Boone the father but rather his sons Daniel Morgan Boone and Nathan Boone. Both were very active and important in the early history of the State of Missouri, but often overlooked - partly because people are so interested in claiming the famous Daniel Boone, and they get him mixed up with his sons due to the similarity in the names. FYI Nathan and Daniel Morgan both have decent Wikipedia articles now and that would be a great place to start. There is a really detailed scholarly article about Nathan and Morgan's work along the Osage River gathering and selling timber. So that probably relates to the subject you are interested in. That article is linked in Daniel Morgan Boone's Wikipedia article.
so, my 2nd great grandmother was born around 1983 on a reservation in Missouri, that's all I know. Her son my great uncle was also born on a reservation in Moberly, Mo. I've in pursuit of finding out more, but not much info to go on. my great grandmother said we are decedents from the Blackfoot, and great bear. She also said to go to the reservation to find out more if i ever wanted to know. if you could me meet find out more, i would be ever so grateful.
There where no reservations in Missouri in 1983 or even 1883. All the free roaming tribes along the Missouri River where beginning to be forcibly removed and pushed west into Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma. The Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the following Trail of Tears further removed Natives from the state of Missouri. I think you might have misheard what your great grandmother told you. She could not of been born on a reservation in Missouri but maybe she was born from the Missouria tribe on a reservation in Oklahoma.
Well you might have a pretty hard time finding out because there is no Indian reservations in Missouri. And if your great-great-grandmother was born in 1983 you might want to ask your mother how that Miracle came about
I'm from southeast missouri and I grew up near a rock bluff that has native american pictures on it specifically the underwater panther, these bluffs have caves carved out of them and we're always thought to be some sort of "burial ground" but I think it was a copper mine so my question is have y'all heard anything from the ozark or any other native tribe of missouri about copper mining?
Also trees are symbols for important messages .I can tell you everything about them.but no man's or anything can harm or hurt or kill any...and if .and if .u know it's possible.ur mind spiritual body soul heart ❤️.. understands .. that's all I'm allowed to speak....I want to help save history and native people tribes.and for love..
46:00 Blind Missouri. Looks like the gentleman is wearing a Jeffersonian Medal like the ones handed out by Lewis and Clark. There were 3 sizes and he appears to be wearing the largest sized medal.
Do we know of tribes that might have bartered with Franklin County MO farmers around 1820-1850? I'm trying to track a 3x great grandmother that ended up becoming a slave to one of the farms as a small child. She was Indian, not 100% on the type.
The Americans were remarkably thorough in driving the Native Americans from Missouri - certainly by the time of statehood in 1821. After that time I just don't think we saw small or large groups of Native Americans wandering about the state and (for example) trading. But . . . what you describe sounds very much like something that could have happened during the Trail of Tears period, which is roughly 1830-50. The biggest forced removal was in 1838. The most northerly path used then passed just south of Franklin County near Cuba, Mo. Also...the tribes were being driven out of Deep South states where slavery was common, and some owned slaves. Some slaves made the trip to Oklahoma. So a slave sale of the sort you envision is certainly within the realm of possibility. People were literally starving along the Trail of Tears, desperate to raise money any way they could. Selling a slave along the way to raise funds certainly seems like something that could have happened. I don't know that it was common - but possible, I would say yes. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears The situation of the enslaved people owned by the Five Civilized Tribes is quite complex. This is a pretty good backgrounder: time.com/4935802/cherokee-slavery-court-decision Here is the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail - note the most northerly route option through Missouri: www.nps.gov/trte/planyourvisit/maps.htm
I feel bad for the native chiwere people because the Europeans took over their land we all should go back from where we came and give them their land back to them 😢🥺
Genetic studies show there were two waves of population to the americas. Technically, the indians of present day slaughtered another civilization of peoples to take over. So, on your ownership rules, who should get the land then? Answer:IT's history. We can't change it we can only not repeat it and do so with realistic expectations.
You brainwashed people forget they conquered the land from other people before the Europeans conquered. It’s just a big circle . So typical of people these days to pull that same card ever since media planted it into your brain. The land belongs to fucking no one. We’re all just occupying moms land. It’s scary to see how bad the media has manipulated to divide and conquer. They have your brains so twisted and planted so much white hate in you that they probably could pull off a white Holocaust and you would love it. That’s why karma will come to those who wish bad on people based on skin color. Learn how to treat people equal no matter what color. Your letting that government get into your brain. Do good thing and good things will happen to you. Never follow a trend follow your heart you won’t be misguided
I hope you’ve changed your mind since then, because that’s a terrible way of thinking. We should not be punished for the sins of our ancestors. If we were to move back to the land of our ancestors, we ourselves would be strangers in a strange land. This place is our home and like the Native Americans before us, we have every right to be here.
I was fortunate enough to get to work at A&A Van Meter SP for two seasons. I got to learn so much in my time there and i appreciate what you guys have done here. Their history (the Missouria tribe) being more or less lost to the ages and not talked about often is a tragedy.
The Missouri Indians actually lived southern minnesota for a time during the 1700 an early 1800s. The Missouri Indians were pushed back by the Dakota sioux Indian warriors into the Iowa and Nebraska region. An the tribe also met Louis and Clark northern expedition at council bluffs Nebraska.
There were Indian camps all up along through the Grand River valley stretching up in the Iowa I found artifacts in the river all over up through there
Interesting presentation. Growing up on a farm in NE Mo i often wondered about the peoples there before me. Old men told stories about a battle at The Sinkhole, buffalo wallows(is that even a thing?), and an indian trace/trail was visible and obvious that i could follow across the farm. There were spearpoints to find in the creek and a mound my parents told us to stay away from and not talk about.(there was a man in town with a reputation for trespassing to dig things up, if you know what i mean). Very "fertile soil" to grow a fascination, respect, and imagination in the mind of a young boy. Unfortunately there just isn't a lot of information on tribes that lived in or visited Missouri, and almost all the info is speculative works on Mississippian culture. I own the book highlighted in this video and am happy that someone that shares my interest professionally took the time to research and write it. I understand he's not a native speaker, but it was fascinating to hear the translations from his friends.
/thank you Missouri River Relief and Mike Dickey. I'm definitely going to visit Van Meter State Park.
Fantastic job of researching the history of those people thanks.
Great presentation. I learned a couple of things I didn't know.
❤Hi! Trying to find out what Indians lived on the Missouri River before John Wolfe created Wolfe Point that later became Lupus! Thanks! these sites are great
Thank you.. listen and u will.know truth.always is best way to explain..
Hi Mike, im doing research for a coming roadside Attraction in Morgan Co. on Little Proctor Rd. You can Help me a lot. Im looking all over for references to Dan'l Boon and his interactian with the osage particularly. in the Overland stage rout. As Far as I know it is Mo - J RD. The end on the north shore of the Osage River. Think Williamsburg in the ozarks 70 or so acres Primative Camp Ground.
This wouldn't have been Daniel Boone the father but rather his sons Daniel Morgan Boone and Nathan Boone.
Both were very active and important in the early history of the State of Missouri, but often overlooked - partly because people are so interested in claiming the famous Daniel Boone, and they get him mixed up with his sons due to the similarity in the names.
FYI Nathan and Daniel Morgan both have decent Wikipedia articles now and that would be a great place to start. There is a really detailed scholarly article about Nathan and Morgan's work along the Osage River gathering and selling timber. So that probably relates to the subject you are interested in. That article is linked in Daniel Morgan Boone's Wikipedia article.
Bridal Cave is said to have been discovered by Daniel on his trip up the Osage river@@bhugh
so, my 2nd great grandmother was born around 1983 on a reservation in Missouri, that's all I know. Her son my great uncle was also born on a reservation in Moberly, Mo. I've in pursuit of finding out more, but not much info to go on. my great grandmother said we are decedents from the Blackfoot, and great bear. She also said to go to the reservation to find out more if i ever wanted to know. if you could me meet find out more, i would be ever so grateful.
There where no reservations in Missouri in 1983 or even 1883. All the free roaming tribes along the Missouri River where beginning to be forcibly removed and pushed west into Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma. The Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the following Trail of Tears further removed Natives from the state of Missouri.
I think you might have misheard what your great grandmother told you. She could not of been born on a reservation in Missouri but maybe she was born from the Missouria tribe on a reservation in Oklahoma.
@@draxthewarlocktitan5217 you roasted that person. Sick burn
Well you might have a pretty hard time finding out because there is no Indian reservations in Missouri. And if your great-great-grandmother was born in 1983 you might want to ask your mother how that Miracle came about
@@dungeonmaster6292you are a rude.
The Great Osage tribe now from the Grayhorse reservation in Oklahoma is the greatest.
So informal! Im from western missouri near several osage village sites
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Great job..
I'm from southeast missouri and I grew up near a rock bluff that has native american pictures on it specifically the underwater panther, these bluffs have caves carved out of them and we're always thought to be some sort of "burial ground" but I think it was a copper mine so my question is have y'all heard anything from the ozark or any other native tribe of missouri about copper mining?
Thank you very much.
This was great!
Greetings from KCMO!
The Ofallen house is still standing in Barnhart
Also trees are symbols for important messages .I can tell you everything about them.but no man's or anything can harm or hurt or kill any...and if .and if .u know it's possible.ur mind spiritual body soul heart ❤️.. understands .. that's all I'm allowed to speak....I want to help save history and native people tribes.and for love..
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My grandmother was from Missouri and was Indian I'm trying to get information now
Like from Siberia
46:00 Blind Missouri. Looks like the gentleman is wearing a Jeffersonian Medal like the ones handed out by Lewis and Clark. There were 3 sizes and he appears to be wearing the largest sized medal.
Actually it's my great grandmother and her mother and sister
Do we know of tribes that might have bartered with Franklin County MO farmers around 1820-1850? I'm trying to track a 3x great grandmother that ended up becoming a slave to one of the farms as a small child. She was Indian, not 100% on the type.
The Americans were remarkably thorough in driving the Native Americans from Missouri - certainly by the time of statehood in 1821.
After that time I just don't think we saw small or large groups of Native Americans wandering about the state and (for example) trading.
But . . . what you describe sounds very much like something that could have happened during the Trail of Tears period, which is roughly 1830-50.
The biggest forced removal was in 1838. The most northerly path used then passed just south of Franklin County near Cuba, Mo.
Also...the tribes were being driven out of Deep South states where slavery was common, and some owned slaves. Some slaves made the trip to Oklahoma. So a slave sale of the sort you envision is certainly within the realm of possibility. People were literally starving along the Trail of Tears, desperate to raise money any way they could. Selling a slave along the way to raise funds certainly seems like something that could have happened. I don't know that it was common - but possible, I would say yes.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
The situation of the enslaved people owned by the Five Civilized Tribes is quite complex. This is a pretty good backgrounder:
time.com/4935802/cherokee-slavery-court-decision
Here is the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail - note the most northerly route option through Missouri:
www.nps.gov/trte/planyourvisit/maps.htm
You may want to contact Theresa Delsoin of St Louis or Cairo, IL, who has extensive research on your question.
I feel bad for the native chiwere people because the Europeans took over their land we all should go back from where we came and give them their land back to them 😢🥺
The land belongs to animals no one owns any land
We are animals are we not? Who was here before the ameriIndian
Genetic studies show there were two waves of population to the americas. Technically, the indians of present day slaughtered another civilization of peoples to take over. So, on your ownership rules, who should get the land then?
Answer:IT's history. We can't change it we can only not repeat it and do so with realistic expectations.
You brainwashed people forget they conquered the land from other people before the Europeans conquered. It’s just a big circle . So typical of people these days to pull that same card ever since media planted it into your brain. The land belongs to fucking no one. We’re all just occupying moms land. It’s scary to see how bad the media has manipulated to divide and conquer. They have your brains so twisted and planted so much white hate in you that they probably could pull off a white Holocaust and you would love it. That’s why karma will come to those who wish bad on people based on skin color. Learn how to treat people equal no matter what color. Your letting that government get into your brain. Do good thing and good things will happen to you. Never follow a trend follow your heart you won’t be misguided
I hope you’ve changed your mind since then, because that’s a terrible way of thinking. We should not be punished for the sins of our ancestors. If we were to move back to the land of our ancestors, we ourselves would be strangers in a strange land. This place is our home and like the Native Americans before us, we have every right to be here.
Thank you very much.