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  • One in five Conservative MPs are landlords. Should they really be allowed to control laws governing the UK housing market?
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    A listener asks whether MP landlords have a conflict of interest when voting on laws governing renter protections.
    Anoosh Chakelian and Rachel Cunliffe discuss how the UK parliament voting system works and whether MPs and Lords vote in the best interests of the country, or for their own gains.
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Комментарии • 96

  • @beep4085
    @beep4085 Месяц назад +20

    No. Why is this even a debate?

  • @octarinehk
    @octarinehk Месяц назад +27

    First minute spent trying to describe “the establishment”. This country is not far of feudal when it comes to land ownership.

    • @user-jc4lb5mm7x
      @user-jc4lb5mm7x Месяц назад +1

      The Tories have always believed that to rule is their birthright, giving the little people rites will never happen while they are in power.

    • @lauracartegni2753
      @lauracartegni2753 Месяц назад

      The word is full of thives

  • @undead_corsair
    @undead_corsair Месяц назад +33

    Ban landlords from Parliament.

    • @DaveB432
      @DaveB432 Месяц назад +11

      Ban landlords.

    • @tomjones8715
      @tomjones8715 Месяц назад

      Have you not worked out what they are doing!

  • @sonny8085
    @sonny8085 Месяц назад +19

    An MP could vote on legislation on "moral grounds"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @oliverlaw02
    @oliverlaw02 Месяц назад +17

    HMO landlords and property developers already run most local councils.

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 Месяц назад +2

      Also, increasingly large investment banks are buying up vast swathes of property. And I'm sure they wield rather a lot of lobbying power.

  • @eliakimjosephsophia4542
    @eliakimjosephsophia4542 Месяц назад +25

    If there is a conflict of interest they shouldn't be allowed to vote on a bill.

  • @user-eg4dv1bm2e
    @user-eg4dv1bm2e Месяц назад +6

    If they just did their jobs with integrity then it wouldn't matter that they were landlords.

  • @KeldonA
    @KeldonA Месяц назад +7

    And not just landlord MPs, but rogue landlord MPs.
    Maintaining leasehold and ground rents is grossly immoral.

  • @kola100
    @kola100 Месяц назад +2

    Conflict of interests- there should not be allowed mp/ landlords

  • @VincentPeters-vs2us
    @VincentPeters-vs2us Месяц назад +4

    Should turkeys be allowed to vote for Christmas?
    Should investors be allowed to vote on Financial legislation?

  • @tonysanders536
    @tonysanders536 Месяц назад +11

    I love some of your debates. However this one is all over the place. Rent is not the same as leasehold. they are different. Leasehold affects home owners rent affects non home owners. Also how many Labour MPs are landlords. This is a problem across the spectrum. Also how many people on the MPC of the Bank of England are home owners so they will not raise interest rates as that would affect home values and keeps renters from buying their own home. This has always been a big problem. I am voting Labour because of their commitment to build lots of new homes. However I lay odds that they in fact build less homes. However I am giving them the chance to prove me wrong.

    • @DINOROAR2912
      @DINOROAR2912 Месяц назад +9

      Watch it again, the Leasehold point is simply giving context to a prior conversation about this topic.
      As for Labour MPs that are landlords, do the maths, they detail how many Tory MPs are Landlords, then the total number of MP landords, the remainder is Labour, SNP and Lib Dem MP landlords, works out to be a very small number

    • @KeldonA
      @KeldonA Месяц назад +2

      Okay. So. There is a big problem right now in some of the laws we have.
      Leaseholds. Ground rents. Etc.
      There are MPs voting against this because they or their donors benefit from it.
      It's that simple.
      All the whataboutisms are silly distractions from the above mentioned issues and the conflicts of interest mentioned in the video.

  • @mattbooth307
    @mattbooth307 Месяц назад +1

    MP's should be forced to divest or place their holdings into a blind trust, where they cannot know where it is invested, before being sworn in.

  • @frostbite9
    @frostbite9 Месяц назад +1

    Why would people even vote for big landlords & millionaires? I mean they should pick someone who can truly represent them in the parliament.

  • @avs4365
    @avs4365 Месяц назад +1

    Putting the fox in charge of the hen house!

  • @tomfinney3416
    @tomfinney3416 Месяц назад

    a very large lobby ,private landlords as mps it is cross party , 118 mps , 80 of which are tory ,but it is a cross party pressure lobby on our housing laws

  • @ChizzyVII
    @ChizzyVII Месяц назад +2

    Why on earth is this a question hahahahahaha. We live in a simulation I swear

  • @elenaRodriguezungida
    @elenaRodriguezungida Месяц назад

    Good is Good. Good blessings

  • @mattbooth307
    @mattbooth307 Месяц назад

    Clear conflict of interests and shouldn't be allowed to vote on such laws.

  • @danielwebb8402
    @danielwebb8402 Месяц назад +5

    Why are MPs that are union members, by party rules all Labour ones, allowed to vote on union law changes?
    Why are non higher rate taxpayers allowed an opinion on higher rate tax rates?

    • @miahr3
      @miahr3 Месяц назад

      Because they'd choose not to pay tax at all and then use the wealth they've accumulated to monopolise their businesses and force everyone onto minimum wage.

  • @joejjj4378
    @joejjj4378 Месяц назад +2

    no sound on the outro lol

  • @MiPointIs
    @MiPointIs Месяц назад

    Any MP or MP who has a partner who is a landlord should not be allowed to participate in discussions or vote on matters in relation to rented domestic or commercial properties. The main purpose of the Register of Members’ Financial Interests is to provide information about any financial interest which a Member has, or any benefit which he or she receives, which others might reasonably consider to influence his or her actions or words as a Member of Parliament.

  • @catherinemartin6258
    @catherinemartin6258 Месяц назад +1

    How many houses do 67 Tory mps own 🤔

    • @tomjones8715
      @tomjones8715 Месяц назад +1

      I think you miss the obvious !

  • @matthewrobinson2172
    @matthewrobinson2172 Месяц назад

    MPs have interests if they are members of society.
    If they are taxpayers or service users they have interests
    If they rent property as public or private tenant they have interests
    If they belong to a union or professional association they have interests
    If they have a stake in a pension fund they have interests
    If we exclude landlords from voting on matters that interest them do we exclude all other stakeholders for matters that interest them?
    As it happens, far from getting an easy ride, the unpopularity of residential landlords as made them a target of politicians who have specifically legislated for them to pay more than other business or property owners for finance costs and capital gains tax.

  • @carltontweedle5724
    @carltontweedle5724 24 дня назад

    If you ask a stupid question you will get the truth of course not, they should be banned from that short of job. If they lie jail them.

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 27 дней назад

    The purpose of the House of Commons was originally to give the rich commoners a stake in the system and enough executive power to defend their own wealth and privileges, and by extension the wealth and privileges of the aristocracy, from the collective power of the working class masses. So of course there are no mechanisms to prevent MPs voting for their own benefit and therefore preserving the current power imbalance. that’s what it was created to do

  • @josephhoward3558
    @josephhoward3558 Месяц назад

    No, and they should also be compelled to use the NHS if they want to represent the people. How the f*ck else is anything ever going to change?

  • @davids2368
    @davids2368 Месяц назад

    More social housing and less privately contructed housing and get rid of leaseholds- Yes I can only see the benefits of these policies.
    I say Encourage more people to become private landlords and incentivise them financially to be more than that, actually good landlords that take an active interest in the local community they own houses in. Depending on the specifics of any change in law, making being a landlord less attractive will have huge long term negative effects for the private rental market, which is very much needed in 2024. More social housing should help this problem somewhat, but also I think (this may be controversial) you shouldn't be able to buy the social housing that you've lived in for however long as that simply leads to the situation we have today- not enough properties for low end earners and renters

  • @Cyime
    @Cyime Месяц назад

    Short answer no. Long answer noooooooo

  • @weediestbroom
    @weediestbroom Месяц назад

    In reply to the title, I didn't know they did. Obviously they should not though. How is that even having to be asked? Wth?

  • @lizzieatherfold2293
    @lizzieatherfold2293 Месяц назад +1

    Interesting

  • @mandyfinden2707
    @mandyfinden2707 Месяц назад

    No way!!! - too much of a conflict of interest

  • @xeode
    @xeode Месяц назад

    ah whoops you missed the audio on the closing clip lol

  • @sitruchtims9392
    @sitruchtims9392 Месяц назад

    NO!!!!

  • @shawngrinter2747
    @shawngrinter2747 Месяц назад

    Why not, tax avoiding politicians set tax policy.

  • @davidalderson7761
    @davidalderson7761 Месяц назад

    Of course they should.
    Local councillors struck off the FCA pension advice should also hold financial control over pensions too in County Durham
    Also House of Lords members should get lucrative PPE contracts.
    Let’s go back to why we have no railway lines ? Perhaps the transport minister owned a concrete and tarmac company ?
    How else are they going to make money and get rich off the backs of others.

  • @Muttley-cr5yu
    @Muttley-cr5yu Месяц назад

    Thats like asking if the fox should watch the hen house come on where has common sense gone to?

  • @traviscutler9912
    @traviscutler9912 Месяц назад

    The system works.

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac Месяц назад

    Can so many news anchors be wrong about Jeremy *unt?

  • @MrGyges
    @MrGyges 20 дней назад

    No

  • @davidjupp961
    @davidjupp961 13 дней назад

    Obviously not

  • @alanconway94
    @alanconway94 Месяц назад

    Well, they do. The point is moot.

  • @q2breath
    @q2breath Месяц назад

    WE NEED FAST RADICAL CHANGES TO THE POLITICAL SYSTEM TO BE TRULY DEMOCRATIC.
    1) NO ROYALS AND WEALTHY OUT OF TOUCH FAMILIES ALLOWED NEAR POLITICS EVER AGAIN.
    2) NO MORE PRIVILEGES. AND ROAYLS MUST BE FORCED TO PAY TAXES COUNTING BACK FROM THE YEAR 1900.
    3) POLITICIANS MUST HAVE SPECIFIC QUALIFICATIONS TO COVER THEIR ROLES. THESE PEOPLE WING IT AND PLAY WITH OUR LIVES WHILE SPENDING OUR MONEY, WHILE WE STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 Месяц назад

    When home owners are skint the first thing they pay each month is their mortgage.
    When renters are skint, their rent is the first thing they STOP paying.

    • @karisno7798
      @karisno7798 Месяц назад

      What utter bs!

    • @tombartram7384
      @tombartram7384 Месяц назад

      @@karisno7798 actually dead true cuz you think your building society will tolerate being fobbed off for even ONE DAY?

  • @Cashclever
    @Cashclever Месяц назад +2

    We need more landlords and more houses built to drive prices down…. Why would anyone rent a house out when there all being shafted…
    Large house builders and slowly dripping new houses out to keep prices high

  • @fatherofthenoo
    @fatherofthenoo Месяц назад

    Maybe an AI should start running the numbers through thousands of companies and statistics and provide us with the best options for the majority of this country. Rather than using people's whims.

  • @user-jc4lb5mm7x
    @user-jc4lb5mm7x Месяц назад

    just the usual corruption from the Tories.

  • @liaminwales
    @liaminwales Месяц назад +1

    When you do numbers can we not switch formats, it's confusing to say 1 in 5 then 68 to 87 or 10% of donations to one party but not how much the other party gets etc.

  • @BobSmith-fx9sz
    @BobSmith-fx9sz Месяц назад +1

    The alternative is paying MPs a much higher salary and banning second income streams - an unpopular move.
    This video makes a great point but could have explored the idea more thoroughly.
    Also, an MP of any party, even labour, is more likely to be a landlord than the general public. What's crazy is that a conservative MP is so much more likely than a labour MP to be a landlord!

    • @AndrewMcColl
      @AndrewMcColl Месяц назад +4

      Alternately, keep the pay the same and reframe becoming an MP as a way of serving your constituency, and country, not a way to get rich on the side. If you want to host a TV show or write a tell all novel once you leave, that's fine, but not while you're in the job. That might cut down on the number of people with ulterior motives.

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 Месяц назад +1

      Actually it isn't. Far more Tory MPs come from a business background than Labour MPs

    • @KeldonA
      @KeldonA Месяц назад

      The problem isn't merely being a landlord.
      Listen to the video again. These are landlords at HIGH SCALE. And they're rogue landlords at high scale.
      We're talking ground rents (which are grossly immoral and guarantee that every single leasehold in that building will be GUARANTEED to not be able to afford it eventually, allowing them to reclaim it).
      We're talking about leasehold.
      We're talking about the decimation of council housing, which guarantees much higher rents and house prices (all done for self gain).
      The video was wrong in just saying landlords, because that doesn't distinguish between scale and direct our attention to landlords empires that have at their very least, tripled house costs in the last 30 years that have the resources to lobby (bribe) government to create laws that favour them and make things harder for everyone else (including ordinary landlords who might own a property or two).

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 Месяц назад +1

      @@KeldonA nothing in the video suggests that MPs are landlords on a large scale, not that that necessarily matters. Further, there us no suggestion whatsoever that they are rogue landlords. I suspect we would have known if they were

    • @BobSmith-fx9sz
      @BobSmith-fx9sz Месяц назад

      @AndrewMcColl You want competent and talented people becoming MPs - you have to pay them exceptionally well or allow them to have second income streams. We simply won't get the talent in an important but stressful and insecure job.
      I agree with the sentiment but the necessity of well paid MPs is unavoidable regardless of our feelings towards politicians. How they're paid is another matter.

  • @lauracartegni2753
    @lauracartegni2753 Месяц назад

    Labour ifnt building any homes .
    I disagree with you on the choice but those are shoppers ..
    Can you see I'm changed and bath ?

  • @aethellstan
    @aethellstan Месяц назад

    what a surprise, turkeys voting to ban christmas

  • @FreaksSpeaks
    @FreaksSpeaks Месяц назад

    Does Emily thornbury owns multiple proprties?

    • @KeldonA
      @KeldonA Месяц назад

      The problem isn't the mere owning of property.
      Listen to the video again. These are landlords at high scale and influence.
      We're talking about super landlords. Landlords with so much property and wealth that their interests are not even aligned with regular landlords who might own a property or two they are letting out.

  • @lethalkaiwilliams358
    @lethalkaiwilliams358 Месяц назад +1

    I know the Tories keep trying to lessen our humans rights.
    But housing should be a human right.

    • @Tdoshok
      @Tdoshok Месяц назад

      It would certainly make it easier for them to stop us accessing it when they get around to abolishing the concept of human rights

    • @tomjones8715
      @tomjones8715 Месяц назад

      You miss the obvious

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft Месяц назад +4

    Because the aristocracy never left the UK.

    • @KeldonA
      @KeldonA Месяц назад

      The problem is not even the aristocracy, but the fact that more than enough voters are blindly and stupidly loyal to them.

  • @Harve6988
    @Harve6988 Месяц назад

    Not having an understanding of a topic is bit the same as having a conflict of interest viz Sunak making policy on schools vs a landlord making policy on housing.

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 Месяц назад

      That's an odd statement to make. Most MPs have no experience of poverty or homelessness. Should they be excluded from voting on these issues?

  • @PMMagro
    @PMMagro Месяц назад +1

    Should people inherrit sets of a British parlament and the regime appoint other members of parliament? You are supposed to be a democratic nation.
    And by the way the non-electeble parliamnet is bigger than the elected one...

  • @billyblunham66
    @billyblunham66 Месяц назад

    'You English' are too soft on your politicians and the structure in general. Labour will not solve all the problems. 'You' are too dedicated to this archaic system. 'You' don not understand the 'sort-of' liberated continent. But 'you' make 'us' laugh time&again!

  • @leonie563
    @leonie563 Месяц назад

    It would be easier for Under 35s to move their fertility to another country....then they would be left with old people and a peppering of migrants. They'd sit up then. Some European countries pay Under 35s to migrate with cheap housing. With the savings the grandparents could come visit geandkids later on....

  • @Schiltron
    @Schiltron Месяц назад +2

    "Should landlord MPs control UK housing laws?" Should Trade Union MPs control UK labour laws?

  • @robertduggan1958
    @robertduggan1958 Месяц назад +1

    In a word NO its a conflict of Interest and they are actually breaking the law

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 Месяц назад +1

      As taxpayers should they be allowed to vote on matters of taxation ?

  • @tomjones8715
    @tomjones8715 Месяц назад

    Utterly misses the god dam obvious.