I should make "Where Does the Sun Go?" Shirts. What do you think? Update: He responded to the video by misunderstanding his misunderstanding presented in the first 1/3 of the video. Why do I even try?
Somewhat off topic, but I noticed M Hijab loves to say Christians don't worship just one god, which is of course nonsense like most of the things he says, but I also realized watching this that oftentimes Muslims do and say things in deference to Muhammad far in excess of what any Christian would do for Jesus (e.g., stopping to say peace and blessings every time they say his name). This relationship they have with Muhammad seems to verge on god worship in its own right, I even wonder if it has some kind of nationalistic of fascist superiority vibe to it.
The relationship we Muslims in honoring the Prophets is so high compared to the Christian non existent honorifics of anything or anyone even God is so polar you would say that. A child that doesn't honor his mother would think another child who does honor his mother to be worshipping her. This is because his standard is so low. The problem is Christians think that their standard of respecting holy people is the standard, when is too low to be one.
@Mysotiras 010 Desperate Christians are so butthurt and embarrassed at their own pagan beliefs that they want to misrepresent and project the paganism onto Islam lmao
Islam is very ritualistic and superstitious. Hence the requirement to repeat phrases and to gain rewards. The Islamic heaven supposedly has 7 levels. So the need to get to a better heaven the highest rank is gained by rewards etc.
@@tahahagar7664 Muslims take more offense to any criticism of Mohammed than of Allah. He is mentioned more than Allah years well. He's given mire reverence than the god he was supposedly the spokesman for.
Wonderful, you made my day! By the way, when my son ends up in a muddy spring, he has to have a bath - I wonder if the sun does the same before he gets to the throne?
@@carlpeberdy9086 Technically, if I got it right, the sun goes UNDER the throne of Allah, so I guess it's ok if it's still muddy, Allah may not see it if He's busy dictating revelations to lonely speleologists. As for your son, may he have many happy baths in muddy springs before he shines on the throne of his life. ❤️ PS I can't believe my cheesy "teacher's joke" linguistic pun got accepted so well, I almost erased it upon writing. Thanks, guys.😊
@@miovicdina7706Thanks for your lovely reply, also I am so glad you didn't erase that pun! I have been retelling it to various friends who appreciate a good (or bad!) pun - share the joy!
@@ffazlyrabbe1638 You are diverting from the main topic unfortunately. First, We dont see the purpose of the edit of his own video if he was truthfull. Second, If he claims that he DIDN'T believed that Word Wajada is a General Truth... What's the point of Initial video refuting that the sun is setting down in a mud ? JUST TO REMIND YOU, HIS INITIAL CLAIM IS THAT THE QURAN CLAIMS THAT THE SUN IS LITERALLY SETTING DOWN IN A MUD.
Apparently every single English translation of the quran is wrong according to these apologists? What good is following a book that is open to literal infinite interpretation?
Everything is open to interpretation - that's why there are different ideas about what Shakespeare meant or what the bible means, however one of the Quran's virtues is said to be that it is easy to understand, which seems to contradict the need for a metaphysical interpretation.
@Jamal Ramadan If the book can’t speak for itself, what good is it? An all perfect god should have know that text wasn’t the best method for communication.
Many pagan influences in christianity like the trinity and celebrating the birth of the sun God in Christmas and idols in the churches yup christianity is false religion for sure
That wearable blanket is something I must get immediately; now AP is giving me fashion ideas as well as information on how to destroy Islam while keeping warm and looking stylish!!
Islam cant be destroyed it's not like christianity its been in decline for years we literally converting the churches into mosques at the moment lol Islam is on the rise
@@generaljg4373 🤣😂 I do not disagree that some buildings are in fact being converted to mosques, however that does not equate to Islam being on the rise!! That hilarious that you actually think that buying buildings means Islam must be growing!! Here is reality Islam in on decline! You know Scientologists have a ton of empty buildings too...just saying your not the first ones to propogate this deception!!! Recent comprehensive surveys indicate strongly that across the Middle East and Iran, almost half the population is loosening their ties to Islam. Governments have reacted differently to calls for reforms of institutional religion. A recent surveyamong 40,000 interviewees by the Group for Analysing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran (GAMAAN), which researched Iranians' attitudes toward religion, found that no less than 47% reported "having transitioned from being religious to non-religious"
@@charissa6648 Building mosques or turning old Christian churches into them is a very expensive attempt to impress us non-Muslims. We are supposed to believe the builders anticipate lots of new "customers". On plenty of AP's and DW's videos, I keep seeing an ad begging for donations to finish work on something called the "Jesus Son of Mary Mosque". It looks like an effort to ingratiate themselves with Christians.
Farid's example of - wall "wanted" to colapse" is deceptive and deflective, because the word "wanted, yuridu, يريد ", used in this particular phrase, isn't meant to show that wall has free will, mind and consciousness, but it is used tell us that wall is ABOUT TO collapse, wall is unstable, and so is to collapse very soon: the point is: when verse 18:77 speaks about Two men found a wall that is about to collapse, "wanted to" collapse, it is objective reallity, because they REALLY found wall thats about to collapse, (it's not just they thought they found a wall about to collapse, but not in reallity), so, even here word WAJADA - وجد, is reffering to finding something that is objective reallity, and isn't used for something that is "just from the perspective of these two men", because WAJADA doesn't indicate something that is only from the perspective of someone... BUT, it suddenly miracleously does when it comes to finding (wajada) Sun setting in a muddy spring... Ohhh, Farid, Farid....
Farid doesn't have to make sense of what he is saying, cause noone from his audience is gonna look it up it on their own later, The only thing they care about is if he has an answer, he can refute you using condescension and show you your place boy, sit down boy .
Very true. I've seen repeatedly where muslims tell each other not to worry about some criticism of Islam since Farid has already posted a refutation video. It's really weird. They don't care at all about the details or validity of Farid's response; they are completely fine with ignoring the issue after finding out only that a Farid video "refutation" exists
@@froggacuda1605 yeah this how they protect themselves from the truth, cause i genuinely believe if you are honest in your search for God, you will stop believing in God.
I'm wondering, when Muhammed explained the sun's journey to Abu Dhar, did Abu Dhar think that Muhammed is fooling him with metaphors and then played mental gymnastics to reinterpret Muhammed's words like Farid does? Or did he just take Muhammed's words at face value like any normal person would?
Everything in creation prostrates to Allah, from the stone, the tree to the planets and stars. The throne of Allah encompasses the entire universe. This is how Abu Dhar understood it
@@generaljg4373 A talking donkey makes no sense. A flying donkey-horse carrying a man on a night ride from Arabia to Jerusalem makes so much more sense! 😆
*The most important question is WHEN?* It's 6pm in Germany, it's slowly getting dark, 'cause the sun is *NOW* going somewhere (according to Mo)! This is not the case in the US though!
The sun is prostrating having its head towards the U.S and its ass facing Germany so it is raising in US and setting in Europe and the circle goes. Expected farid next responds
Yes its true the sun is going somewhere even in the US and everywhere. The sun goes from east to west everyday. This shows how scientifically illiterate you are for thinking the sun is stationary.
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse ( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity.. 18 : 86 - until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water, where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.” OR If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187 It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast. Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves. So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you. So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you. ˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT , then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL. Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques. These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
Great response video AP! Although I don't expect Farid to give up just like that, these guys continue to amaze me with the ways they try to twist things. While AP has clear arguments, these Muslim apologists continue to twist, redefine, decontextualize and using strawmans and red herrings on everything he says. They’re always deviate from the core, trying to make their listeners believe that they have strong and logical arguments, when we all clearly see that they don't. Indeed, the level of truth is very low with these types of Muslim apologists. It’s very good that AP don’t let them get away with it! 👍
Farid's example of - wall "wanted" to colapse" is deceptive and deflective, because the word "wanted, yuridu, يريد ", used in this particular phrase, isn't meant to show that wall has free will, mind and consciousness, but it is used tell us that wall is ABOUT TO collapse, wall is unstable, and so is to collapse very soon: the point is: when verse 18:77 speaks about Two men found a wall that is about to collapse, "wanted to" collapse, it is objective reallity, because they REALLY found wall thats about to collapse, (it's not just they thought they found a wall about to collapse, but not in reallity), so, even here word WAJADA - وجد, is reffering to finding something that is objective reallity, and isn't used for something that is "just from the perspective of these two men", because WAJADA doesn't indicate something that is only from the perspective of someone... BUT, it suddenly miracleously does when it comes to finding (wajada) Sun setting in a muddy spring... Ohhh, Farid, Farid....
@Islamic Sources Reviewed since you are already wasting much time on youtube, seek true knowledge and learn Arabic and you will be amazed by the Quran not by this drama
@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 Right, because Allah is a monolingual Arabic speaker and His message cannot be properly conveyed otherwise? What an absurd notion. Notice how the Christians are converting a whole bunch of people by translating the Bible in their own language, and they NEVER use resort to this sort of ridiculous argument that "oh but it must be read in its original language". (I'm an agnostic, not a Christian myself.)
"The throne is under the heavens" for me that kinda raises more problems tbh, doesn't mention the earth's, and the other planets, orbit in relation to the sun. Also, the sun only appears to 'set' and 'rise' from our perspective which makes sense if spoken from the POV of someone who had limited understanding of cosmology and such.
@@tahahagar7664 That's more to do with language, a biproduct of our past. From our perspective, the sun appears to rise/fall; in reality, the earth is orbiting the sun on its axis at around 30km per second. Also, we're traveling with our sun as it orbits our galactic centre in a galaxy that is also moving within the universe. The sun literally rising and falling would only make sense in a geocentric solar system.
@@justaminute3111 Are you suggesting that when we say the sun sets/rises we are wrong?? Should we have a scientifically correct speech everytime? clown 🤡🤡🤡
Farid’s claim that “this is a metaphysical matter” reminds me of the comedy program Father Ted where they tell a mad old priest to give the answer “that would be an ecumenical matter” whenever the bishops ask him a hard question. Farid is just a slightly more articulate bullshitter than some other Muslim apologists, but a bullshitter nonetheless…
@@furqanshariff Maybe so, but it doesn't matter how logical the arguments are the muslims just continue to live in denial when Mohammed was so obviously a con man who associated himself with the genuine religions of Judaism and Christianity to try and give his false religion of Islam some credibility.
Arguing with a mohamedan, is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like its victorious
One of the MANY scientific flaws in the Quran and Sahih Hadiths (Geocentric Flat Earth): If the seven heavens are under the throne of Allah already. Than why did prophet Muhammad asked his companion that: "Do you know where the sun goes at sunset?!"..."it goes underneath the throne of Allah and asks for permission to rise up again. And a day will come where it will not be given permission and it will be said to it (sun) that go back where it came from. And that is when the sun will rise from the West". And in another hadith prophet Muhammad says that: "Do not perform prayers when the sun rises and when it sets. For, the sun rises between the two horns of the devil and sets between the two horns of the devil". The other variant of the same sahih hadith says that: "Satan goes and stands in front of a sun at the times of sunset and sunrise to imitate God. So that's why don't pray at these times". The only problem is that the sun is CONSTANTLY "rising and setting" SIMULTANEOUSLY on someone somewhere. These 2 above mentioned hadiths can only be true on a Geocentric Flat Earth model. And these hadiths suggest that prophet Muhammad did not knew that the earth is spherical with heliocentric model. Thus the Quranic verse: Until, when he reached the setting of the sun [i.e., the west], he found it [as if] setting in a body of dark water, and he found near it a people. We [i.e., Allah] said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness." - Surah 18 Verse 86 WHY would Allah mention here what Dhul-Qarnayn saw? What was so special here? Think? Except that Muhammad believed that the earth was flat when he was making up the Quran. Aren't you Theists/Muslims tired of defending such countless examples of nonsense in the Quran and Sahih Hadiths yet? Everything is metaphorical and symbolic when it suits you guys or when you guys can't make sense of it. You guys decide what is literal and what is metaphorical at your own convinence (the miracle of reinterpretation lol). Same tactics in all religions. You guys are losing the war against rationality/science/logic and FACTS lol It's about time that we end this intellectual hypocrisy and get genuine and real with ourselves. Verily, the truth is indeed going to prevail over the falsehood ;)
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "In very hot weather delay the Zuhr prayer till it becomes (a bit) cooler because the severity of heat is from the raging of the Hell-fire. The Hell-fire of Hell complained to its Lord saying: O Lord! My parts are eating (destroying) one another. So Allah allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in the summer. The breath in the summer is at the time when you feel the severest heat and the breath in the winter is at the time when you feel the severest cold."
Muhammad constantly tried explaining the natural phenomenas but failed miserably every time. So say what you want Muslims, the reality is that your prophet was just making things up from his childish imagination to make sense of things around him. We call it 'pseudo-science' lol. I can go on and on. There's just so much material available to destroy Islam from Islam's own text (Quran/Tafseer, Sahih-Hadiths and Seerah) that it's laughable and unbelievable lol
Btw, I'm an Ex-Muslim Deist from Pakistan :) Theists believe in religion and things that they can not justify using established Science, Rationality and Logic. That's why they are wrong. Freethinkers (Atheists, Agnostics and Deists) all reject religion but have different stance regarding god/creator/prime-mover etc. Atheist: There is no Creator. Agnostic: We don't know if there's a creator Deist: There is a Creator because there is creation, design and order in our universe. But we know and can observe that, that Creator does not intervene in this world such as listen to our prayers, do miracles for us, send prophets and holy books to guide us. Those are all man-made attempts to make sense of this world because they are filled with illogical and irrational arguments, unscientific believes and self-contradicting statements. In practicality, Atheists, Agnostics and Deists are all one. Since they all reject religion and prefer evidence based science and secularism in our society. So they all should stand united against Theism, since they are our real opponents. So what is your take on (Agnostic) Deism?
If Farid had even one class in logic, he would know not to use the term "begs the question" as he did. Let's face it, we need that fallacy, it's the one all the religions commit.
*”Undoubtedly, We created the polar bears. We created rainforests in Brazil and condemned Mo ham Mad to the barren deserts of Saudia Arabia.”* - al Qu’ran - Surat’al Penguin / 66 - ⛄️
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse ( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity.. 18 : 86 - until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water, where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.” OR If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187 It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast. Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves. So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you. So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you. ˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT , then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL. Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques. These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
Thank you for a great refutation. It is great that Farid is having to answer you. No publicity is bad publicity...many viewers of his video will be left asking "what if he is wrong" - only idiots will believe an excuses as "metaphysical" 😂
The following narrations are taken from Al-Farra (d.207) maani Al-Quran and the tafsir of Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari for Q18:86. حدثنا مـحمد بن الـمثنى، قال: ثنا ابن أبـي عديّ، عن داود، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عبـاس { وَجَدَها تَغْرُبُ فـي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ } قال: فـي طين أسود Muhammad bin Al-Muthanna
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse ( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity.. 18 : 86 - until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water, where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.” OR If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187 It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast. Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves. So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you. So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you. ˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT , then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL. Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques. These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them. This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
@@blackjack8043 That’s not in any of the Saheeh hadiths, Ibn Abbas quoted Israelites about this issue, so dont take this as being authoritative. The sun settled in a muddy pool in the Perceptive of Dhul qarnain. This is a universally accepted fact amongst Scholars. He also saw it arise on a people who were given no shelter from it, is that going to literally mean that the people were burnt by the sun as it arose over the Horizon? Please don’t be silly, don’t come over with your own conclusions.
@@tahahagar7664yea christian’s aren’t a threat like child marriage, killing apostate and non muslim islam unlike islam christian’s wont kill u for being nonchristian but spread ur movement 😂
Muslim here, I think the where did the sun go shirt would be hilarious 😂. You should, it'll be like those sports beefs where ppl make iconic merch based on the beef
@@tahahagar7664 Some hadiths say that the sun set in muddy water. Some other hadiths says the sun set under the throne of Lah. So, did these scholars think that Lah's throne was built in muddy water?
From India 🙏 Here to aware you fellows about a new movie that is based on a gen¤.cide that took place in kashmir, i would really appreciate if you mention about it in an upcoming video of yours. Its a fresh out and a really great movie. It talks about how Indian govt. tried to erase the whole incident of the opression on us by the peacefuls. #thekashmirfiles
Dude Im from Telengana, India. I actually was watching this video just after coming back frrom the movietheatre. Really good movie which exactly showed to what extent people can be brainwashed and how this whole jehhad system operates.
Sometimes this "discussions" of this fairytale fans remind me of Tolkien fans arguing about Gandlfs background or who really Tom Bombadil was. The only difference? Tolkin fans don't kill for their fantasystory! And Tolkiens work was more well-thought-out than the funny book of the middleeast. No I do'nt mean 1001 nights.
Arent't they always worse than we fear? And all the RUclips commercials: Imam Nouh Kawkab has been showing up before and after your video's asking emergency money to finish the Tampa Florida masjid "Jesus Son of Mary Center". Mmmm... They never fail to mention, that "whoever builds a masjid for Allah, even if its as small as the size of a birds nest, Allah will build them a house in Jannah." Islamic prosperity gospel?
The real meaning of The word of Qu-ran means, When someone ask a Qu-estion about Qu-ran All they do is Ran away from the Qu-estion. That's why it's called Qu-ran.
@@tahahagar7664 sun goes to west? 🤣🤣🤣 sun jan.. And milky way is about 225-250 million years. Where is wriiten about this 225-250 million years time.. Answer this question? According to this in our solar system sun doesn’t even move in minute scale
@@tahahagar7664 contradictory claims Where is Allah? Upon a throne He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days; then He mounted the Throne. He knoweth all that entereth the earth and all that emergeth therefrom and all that cometh down from the sky and all that ascendeth therein; and He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah is Seer of what ye do. Quran 57:4 And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days - and His Throne was upon the water - that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. Yet if thou (O Muhammad) sayest: Lo! ye will be raised again after death! those who disbelieve will surely say: This is naught but mere magic. Quran 11:7 Everywhere To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing. Quran 2:115 His home, the Ka'bah O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer: so fill the hearts of some among men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they may give thanks. Quran 14:37 Nearby When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. Quran 2:186 We verily created man and We know what his soul whispereth to him, and We are nearer to him than his jugular vein Quran 50:16
@5:48 the isnad for the English reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 326 Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4850 Seems to be al-Fadl bin Dakayn, Abu Na'eem --» Sulaiman al-A'mash --» Ibrahim bin Yazid - Taym al-Rabab --» Yazid bin Sharayk bin Tariq --» Abu Dharr al-Ghaffari
@red ington Monkeys aren't our ancestors, monkeys and humans simply share a common ancestor. No, you mustn't kill me because I am alive and I feel stuff just like you. A lack of belief in a god or gods doesn't determine the worthiness of life or living life, you do. God and morality are not the same thing. I can believe I have morals without believing a god exists. Proof? Me. Seth MacFarlane. Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Bill Burr. Ricky Gervais. These are all fantastic human beings who care about people and want people to laugh and be excited. Now, why would they do that if they don't believe in a god? They have nothing afterwards, right? The experience of giving is a gift in and of itself. When someone smiles and you're the cause of it, man, that feels so fucking great. It is such a wholesome feeling. Now, why would I need a god who wants to burn people in hell because they won't give god what god doesn't need nor should want, when he's an evil cunt and I'm better off not listening to such a manipulative psycho? Atheism isn't an ideology within which such things like "human rights" exist. Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god or gods. That's all. Anything else is something else. Please learn the definition of atheism before trying to mock it and please just learn what evolution ACTUALLY says about the history of the human species. You'll learn so much and you could finally put effort into something worthwhile instead of embarassing paragraphs that display your lack of understanding. Read more than one book.
@red ington if morality came from god then could u tell me where was god in banning slavery? Nor christian nor islam bans it.. And blasphemy laws...So morality didn’t even came from god. Morality came from us with evolution and from our increase of knowledge
I wonder how many words there are in the quran that "are used not as they are normally used" (and in ONE particular instance only) wahadaja, makr (to mean "planner" instead of "deceiver"), salat (to mean "blessing" instead of "pray"), .......
Yes its a literal fact that the atmosphere, universe have a mass that can collapse. Its called the Big Crunch for example. You are scientifically illiterate
The following narrations are taken from Al-Farra (d.207) maani Al-Quran and the tafsir of Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari for Q18:86. These reports deal with a debate as to whether the spring where the sun sets in Q18:86 is "muddy" حَمِئَةٍ or warm حامِيَة. Ibn Abbas favours "muddy". However of interest are the small statements he made to four of his companions afterwards: Ikrimah, Attiyah Al-Awfi, Sayd bin Jubayr and Abu Salih. The first companion Ikrimah records that Ibn Abbas told him after saying the correct recitation is حَمِئَةٍ that this spring is black and sludge. حدثنا مـحمد بن الـمثنى، قال: ثنا ابن أبـي عديّ، عن داود، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عبـاس { وَجَدَها تَغْرُبُ فـي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ } قال: فـي طين أسود Muhammad bin Al-Muthanna
Funny how the cockran is clear and specific in its communication, yet here we are having a debate about what it actually says because it is far from that!
@Kryptex so you admit that aloha wasn't smart enough to say it right the first time. thus proving the isn't a god put an idoll. why do you worship and idol?
@Kryptex why do you deflect? answer the question. if aloha had to abrogate his verses then he wasn't smart enough to get it right the first time. which means morhammerd was making it up as he wet along.
@Kryptex do you agree that there is a hadith that says if aloha would have created a ppl that didn't sin, he would have destroyed them and create a ppl that did?
7:53-8:14 clearly refutes your claim, and demonstrates why it is has to be metaphysical It is like when someone asks you "do you have time?" And you reply with "time cant be possessed by anyone" Give me a break
The hadiths have Muhammad asking, while it was sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes?". That isn't asking the time, becasue Muhammad and Abu Dharr knew the time. For Muhammad, it was the time where the sun goes under the throne, "prostrate", and awaits permission to 'rise from its rising place'. Or to 'rise from its setting place'. (Muslim159a, Muslim159b, Muslim 159c, Bukhari 3199, Bukhari 7424, Tirmidhi 2186 and 3227)
I very recently listen about Michel Onfray (i dont know if his work is foundable in english) about how philosophers and peoples start to really questions the churchs when what they only bring as thoughts are just meta physical and nothing really concret They were like " ok we are done with this lets start to think by ourself" then we made french révolution and invented human right, also discovered the modern scientific méthodology that make humanity progress so fast and is so efficient that even the most religious peoples cant deny it and instead try to compare their religion to modern Science to prove their religions is right
Hadith verse 5 says "Allahs Apostle was asked where ones bread goes after placing in a toaster. Allah has revealed that if you look up towards the sky, the devil will throw his spear and burn the toast". Therefore you must recite the Ayah Al Toastie before you put the bread in the toaster.
Saying it is metaphysical is all very well, but there is no explanation of why that is or what it means - almost as if it's just some folk story that got mixed in with all the godly stuff...
“Farid's video says ‘I don't care’--- oh wait, it's my notes” Classic, signature AP moments!! 🤣🤣🤣 P.S. Are we *still* talking about this sun ishh? Just why.
actually the Isnad seems to be 'Uthman bin Muhammad (Abi Shayba) * Yazid bin Harun --» Sufyan bin Hussain bin al-Hasan --» al-Hakam bin 'Utayba --» Ibrahim bin Yazid - Taym al-Rabab --» Yazid bin Sharayk bin Tariq --» Abu Dharr al-Ghaffari Book: Dialects and Readings of the Qur'an (Kitab Al-Huruf Wa Al-Qira'at) Grade: Sahih in chain (Al-Albani) صحيح الإسناد (الألباني) ٠ Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4002 In-book reference : Book 32, Hadith 34 English translation : Book 31, Hadith 3991
Mountains are pegs that prevent earthquakes, and the Sun travels from East to West under the Earth, man, this is not even accepted science in Dungeons & Dragons. 🤣🤣🤣
@@gustgoris8009 In D&D, anything the DM decides about the world is so. So if the DM says the world is a flat plane resting on the butt of a goat...then it is.
Used to read surah al Kahf every Friday for years. 😐🤦🏻♀️ It doesn't flow well like other surahs. Such a waste of time. Check out the Masked Arabs video analysing this Surah so comprehensive.
What a liar, Surah al Kahf are one of the beautiful surahs in the Quran with consistent rhymes like surah Muhammad, Al Rahman and Ahzab. The reason why many of us Muslims doubt these supposed ex Muslims is because you say moronic ignorant stuff that we cannot believe you ever were Muslims. Also that masked loser was exposed by Asadullah Al Andalusi a long time ago
@@tahahagar7664 So triggered that someone disagrees 🤦🏻♀️ It doesnt flow heard so many other sisters say it too. it narrates different stories and as usual actually leaves it for tafsirs to speculate for centuries what it means. The MA video title the Surah that gave the Charlatan away is perfect description. Showing how the Quran is the biggest proof that Mo was the real LIAR. Typical dawah boy language 'exposed' yeh right? I saw some of the attempts to discredit Masked Arab's work, another waste of time... And I know Andalusi lies and used to bully Klingschor. He's the one who said there are hundreds of closet ex Muslim leading prayers, huffaz incl teachers (your huge self absorbed egos think people need to prove this to you lot). But we must all be fake, for your little brain which can't grasp practicing people leaving it.
If the sun sets in a spring of dark mud, the mud becomes very hot I think. Looks like you have a nice, comfy robe, AP. Can you have your dog in another video sometime please, AP? (Cathy Mikulus)
The sun sets in the west. Any dictionary will tell you that. The fact that you dont know this shows the level of people who are involved in anti Islam polemics.
Hello AP , can you make a livestream with David Wood in which you will respond to Farid Responds videos and his arguments. But there's another youtuber called Detective O'will who is making response videos.
@@Sherzodbek_Abdullayev It was a joke, since the cult of islam believes the sun goes somewhere where to postrate to allah..... so I posted the joke of putting an alarm to the sun.
to say AS IF in Arabic is kamma low. if it doesn't say that then we have to assume it was literal, I don't care if Allah's pen ran dry of ink at that point and didn't bother to finish the sentence properly.
I should make "Where Does the Sun Go?" Shirts. What do you think?
Update: He responded to the video by misunderstanding his misunderstanding presented in the first 1/3 of the video. Why do I even try?
Yes.
Yeah. 🥰
Yeah
Print those bad boys
Make sure you add the number of hadith. In case a muslim stops me and asked.
Also a tshirt says.
-- THE SUN UNDER --
-- THE THRONE --
Somewhat off topic, but I noticed M Hijab loves to say Christians don't worship just one god, which is of course nonsense like most of the things he says, but I also realized watching this that oftentimes Muslims do and say things in deference to Muhammad far in excess of what any Christian would do for Jesus (e.g., stopping to say peace and blessings every time they say his name). This relationship they have with Muhammad seems to verge on god worship in its own right, I even wonder if it has some kind of nationalistic of fascist superiority vibe to it.
There is no God but Muhammad and Allah is his messenger.
The relationship we Muslims in honoring the Prophets is so high compared to the Christian non existent honorifics of anything or anyone even God is so polar you would say that. A child that doesn't honor his mother would think another child who does honor his mother to be worshipping her. This is because his standard is so low.
The problem is Christians think that their standard of respecting holy people is the standard, when is too low to be one.
@Mysotiras 010 Desperate Christians are so butthurt and embarrassed at their own pagan beliefs that they want to misrepresent and project the paganism onto Islam lmao
Islam is very ritualistic and superstitious. Hence the requirement to repeat phrases and to gain rewards. The Islamic heaven supposedly has 7 levels. So the need to get to a better heaven the highest rank is gained by rewards etc.
@@tahahagar7664 Muslims take more offense to any criticism of Mohammed than of Allah. He is mentioned more than Allah years well. He's given mire reverence than the god he was supposedly the spokesman for.
The sun goes away. But then it regrets going away. So it comes back.
It is the Prodigal Sun.
Schweet
Wonderful, you made my day! By the way, when my son ends up in a muddy spring, he has to have a bath - I wonder if the sun does the same before he gets to the throne?
@@carlpeberdy9086 Technically, if I got it right, the sun goes UNDER the throne of Allah, so I guess it's ok if it's still muddy, Allah may not see it if He's busy dictating revelations to lonely speleologists.
As for your son, may he have many happy baths in muddy springs before he shines on the throne of his life. ❤️
PS I can't believe my cheesy "teacher's joke" linguistic pun got accepted so well, I almost erased it upon writing. Thanks, guys.😊
@@miovicdina7706Thanks for your lovely reply, also I am so glad you didn't erase that pun! I have been retelling it to various friends who appreciate a good (or bad!) pun - share the joy!
LOL
Farid should change his channel's name into "Farid deflects" 😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
See the video response from Farid who caught Ridwan lying by editing his own video : ruclips.net/video/mcz4zUslyMY/видео.html
@@naaaziiim already seen it..Farid should really tell us where does the sun go😆
@@ffazlyrabbe1638 You are diverting from the main topic unfortunately. First, We dont see the purpose of the edit of his own video if he was truthfull. Second, If he claims that he DIDN'T believed that Word Wajada is a General Truth... What's the point of Initial video refuting that the sun is setting down in a mud ? JUST TO REMIND YOU, HIS INITIAL CLAIM IS THAT THE QURAN CLAIMS THAT THE SUN IS LITERALLY SETTING DOWN IN A MUD.
@@naaaziiim he gave a response on that. Check it out 1st
Apparently every single English translation of the quran is wrong according to these apologists?
What good is following a book that is open to literal infinite interpretation?
Islam in a nutshell
Everything is open to interpretation - that's why there are different ideas about what Shakespeare meant or what the bible means, however one of the Quran's virtues is said to be that it is easy to understand, which seems to contradict the need for a metaphysical interpretation.
@Jamal Ramadan If the book can’t speak for itself, what good is it? An all perfect god should have know that text wasn’t the best method for communication.
@@carlpeberdy9086 But Shakespeare isn’t demanding the entire world follow his lead without question or face an eternal punishment.
And yet its CLEAR and UNCHANGING
Apostate killing is also a metaphor and a metaphysical matter.
Bro, You are on fire, love your recently found sarcastic energy.
Ex Christian's leaving the cult and joining Islam, christianity is a 6th century ideology not a religion
@@generaljg4373 taqqiya. The world is sick of islam.
@@generaljg4373 same goes for islam...
@@generaljg4373 apedoll, why keep spamming the same craps in every comment postings like a 6 years old? grow up!
@@generaljg4373 who hurt you😭
May Peace be upon you our Apostate Prophet We love your Hikmah and we are proud of you. ❤✝
ALLAH VERY PROUD OF U
@Jamal Ramadan war anaa wasa maxamed beenaale
@Jamal Ramadan
Yes Jamal, very, very stupid, but what is your point?
Many pagan influences in christianity like the trinity and celebrating the birth of the sun God in Christmas and idols in the churches yup christianity is false religion for sure
@@generaljg4373 talk about cult of islam which worship pedophile mohamed and ka'aba
Farid never actually responds but deflects every chance he gets. Smh
Farid Deflects
Farid Avoids
Farid responds scared
Farid leaks
Farid evades
That wearable blanket is something I must get immediately; now AP is giving me fashion ideas as well as information on how to destroy Islam while keeping warm and looking stylish!!
Islam cant be destroyed it's not like christianity its been in decline for years we literally converting the churches into mosques at the moment lol Islam is on the rise
@@generaljg4373 lol keep telling yourself that. Even if islam was the biggest religion, its still fake.
@@generaljg4373 🤣😂 I do not disagree that some buildings are in fact being converted to mosques, however that does not equate to Islam being on the rise!! That hilarious that you actually think that buying buildings means Islam must be growing!! Here is reality Islam in on decline!
You know Scientologists have a ton of empty buildings too...just saying your not the first ones to propogate this deception!!!
Recent comprehensive surveys indicate strongly that across the Middle East and Iran, almost half the population is loosening their ties to Islam. Governments have reacted differently to calls for reforms of institutional religion.
A recent surveyamong 40,000 interviewees by the Group for Analysing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran (GAMAAN), which researched Iranians' attitudes toward religion, found that no less than 47% reported "having transitioned from being religious to non-religious"
@@charissa6648 Building mosques or turning old Christian churches into them is a very expensive attempt to impress us non-Muslims. We are supposed to believe the builders anticipate lots of new "customers". On plenty of AP's and DW's videos, I keep seeing an ad begging for donations to finish work on something called the "Jesus Son of Mary Mosque". It looks like an effort to ingratiate themselves with Christians.
@@generaljg4373 Afghan marriage with 9-year-old ruclips.net/video/e3C8grEN2Fk/видео.html
Farid's example of - wall "wanted" to colapse" is deceptive and deflective, because the word "wanted, yuridu, يريد ", used in this particular phrase, isn't meant to show that wall has free will, mind and consciousness, but it is used tell us that wall is ABOUT TO collapse, wall is unstable, and so is to collapse very soon: the point is: when verse 18:77 speaks about Two men found a wall that is about to collapse, "wanted to" collapse, it is objective reallity, because they REALLY found wall thats about to collapse, (it's not just they thought they found a wall about to collapse, but not in reallity), so, even here word WAJADA - وجد, is reffering to finding something that is objective reallity, and isn't used for something that is "just from the perspective of these two men", because WAJADA doesn't indicate something that is only from the perspective of someone... BUT, it suddenly miracleously does when it comes to finding (wajada) Sun setting in a muddy spring...
Ohhh, Farid, Farid....
Farid doesn't have to make sense of what he is saying, cause noone from his audience is gonna look it up it on their own later, The only thing they care about is if he has an answer, he can refute you using condescension and show you your place boy, sit down boy .
Very true. I've seen repeatedly where muslims tell each other not to worry about some criticism of Islam since Farid has already posted a refutation video. It's really weird. They don't care at all about the details or validity of Farid's response; they are completely fine with ignoring the issue after finding out only that a Farid video "refutation" exists
@@froggacuda1605 yeah this how they protect themselves from the truth, cause i genuinely believe if you are honest in your search for God, you will stop believing in God.
Same with Christians , the times I’ve heard that slavery is ok. As we are slaves to our employers lol
I'm wondering, when Muhammed explained the sun's journey to Abu Dhar, did Abu Dhar think that Muhammed is fooling him with metaphors and then played mental gymnastics to reinterpret Muhammed's words like Farid does? Or did he just take Muhammed's words at face value like any normal person would?
According to christianity when the donkey was speaking to people in the bible it was a miracle hallelujah 🦓😂
@@generaljg4373
Why are you trying to justify the stupidity of your religion by bringing up stupidities of other religions?
@@generaljg4373 according to islam if you dont go to the toilet the right way allah won't be your friend anymore
Everything in creation prostrates to Allah, from the stone, the tree to the planets and stars. The throne of Allah encompasses the entire universe. This is how Abu Dhar understood it
@@generaljg4373 A talking donkey makes no sense. A flying donkey-horse carrying a man on a night ride from Arabia to Jerusalem makes so much more sense! 😆
1. I guarantee you he will not be able to respond
2. I also guarantee he will make a stupid answer to make some views and money lol
Not only😉👍that !
I swear☝️by the black stone of that!
There is no God but Muhhamad👀
and Allah👁
is his!
*PROFIT* aka *MONEY*
*The most important question is WHEN?*
It's 6pm in Germany, it's slowly getting dark, 'cause the sun is *NOW* going somewhere (according to Mo)! This is not the case in the US though!
🚽allah knows best.
The sun is prostrating having its head towards the U.S and its ass facing Germany so it is raising in US and setting in Europe and the circle goes.
Expected farid next responds
@@findpeace. Problem solved!
Yes its true the sun is going somewhere even in the US and everywhere. The sun goes from east to west everyday. This shows how scientifically illiterate you are for thinking the sun is stationary.
Ah!! 7:54 I am beside myself with how adorable the sun was when it prostrated 😂 I would buy a shirt that asks where the sun goes
Lol
IT GOES TO ALLAH MIGHTY KINGDOM
@@Hacker-fh1ft 😆 🤣 😂
ALL BOW TO THE KING ALLAH
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse
( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity..
18 : 86 -
until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water,
where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.”
OR
If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187
It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast.
Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves.
So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you.
So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you.
˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT ,
then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL.
Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques.
These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them.
This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
Great response video AP! Although I don't expect Farid to give up just like that, these guys continue to amaze me with the ways they try to twist things. While AP has clear arguments, these Muslim apologists continue to twist, redefine, decontextualize and using strawmans and red herrings on everything he says. They’re always deviate from the core, trying to make their listeners believe that they have strong and logical arguments, when we all clearly see that they don't. Indeed, the level of truth is very low with these types of Muslim apologists. It’s very good that AP don’t let them get away with it! 👍
Farid's example of - wall "wanted" to colapse" is deceptive and deflective, because the word "wanted, yuridu, يريد ", used in this particular phrase, isn't meant to show that wall has free will, mind and consciousness, but it is used tell us that wall is ABOUT TO collapse, wall is unstable, and so is to collapse very soon: the point is: when verse 18:77 speaks about Two men found a wall that is about to collapse, "wanted to" collapse, it is objective reallity, because they REALLY found wall thats about to collapse, (it's not just they thought they found a wall about to collapse, but not in reallity), so, even here word WAJADA - وجد, is reffering to finding something that is objective reallity, and isn't used for something that is "just from the perspective of these two men", because WAJADA doesn't indicate something that is only from the perspective of someone... BUT, it suddenly miracleously does when it comes to finding (wajada) Sun setting in a muddy spring...
Ohhh, Farid, Farid....
@Islamic Sources Reviewed since you are already wasting much time on youtube, seek true knowledge and learn Arabic and you will be amazed by the Quran not by this drama
@@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 What brings you here on this RUclips video and in the comment section?
@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 Right, because Allah is a monolingual Arabic speaker and His message cannot be properly conveyed otherwise? What an absurd notion. Notice how the Christians are converting a whole bunch of people by translating the Bible in their own language, and they NEVER use resort to this sort of ridiculous argument that "oh but it must be read in its original language". (I'm an agnostic, not a Christian myself.)
Ap you are looking tired. Bet it's the bub keeping you up. Good work mate keep up the good work and sneak in a few hours sleep
"The throne is under the heavens" for me that kinda raises more problems tbh, doesn't mention the earth's, and the other planets, orbit in relation to the sun. Also, the sun only appears to 'set' and 'rise' from our perspective which makes sense if spoken from the POV of someone who had limited understanding of cosmology and such.
Literally open up any dictionary or weather app, they would tell you the sun sets and rises. I guess they are all wrong 🤡🤡🤡
@@tahahagar7664 That's more to do with language, a biproduct of our past. From our perspective, the sun appears to rise/fall; in reality, the earth is orbiting the sun on its axis at around 30km per second. Also, we're traveling with our sun as it orbits our galactic centre in a galaxy that is also moving within the universe. The sun literally rising and falling would only make sense in a geocentric solar system.
@@tahahagar7664 are you suggesting that the dictionary is a holy book? What a typical Muslim deflection.
@@justaminute3111 Are you suggesting that when we say the sun sets/rises we are wrong?? Should we have a scientifically correct speech everytime? clown 🤡🤡🤡
@@sulaimandoodle9448 Right, so there you have your answer as to where the sun goes bro lol
Poor Farid. Deflection is all he has left
Farid’s claim that “this is a metaphysical matter” reminds me of the comedy program Father Ted where they tell a mad old priest to give the answer “that would be an ecumenical matter” whenever the bishops ask him a hard question. Farid is just a slightly more articulate bullshitter than some other Muslim apologists, but a bullshitter nonetheless…
What a dumb take and drivel. I can say confidently that you are a better bullshitter than any Muslim apologist Ive ever seen. Congrats.
@@tahahagar7664 apedoll, go back to your Hira cave & cry with your Jibril!
False equivalence
@@furqanshariff Maybe so, but it doesn't matter how logical the arguments are the muslims just continue to live in denial when Mohammed was so obviously a con man who associated himself with the genuine religions of Judaism and Christianity to try and give his false religion of Islam some credibility.
@@tahahagar7664 Metaphysically speaking, you're full of it.
Against stupidity fights even the bravest in vain!
Arguing with a mohamedan, is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like its victorious
@@gustgoris8009 A perfect description of Mohammad Hijab and Ali Dawah!
One of the MANY scientific flaws in the Quran and Sahih Hadiths (Geocentric Flat Earth):
If the seven heavens are under the throne of Allah already. Than why did prophet Muhammad asked his companion that: "Do you know where the sun goes at sunset?!"..."it goes underneath the throne of Allah and asks for permission to rise up again. And a day will come where it will not be given permission and it will be said to it (sun) that go back where it came from. And that is when the sun will rise from the West".
And in another hadith prophet Muhammad says that: "Do not perform prayers when the sun rises and when it sets. For, the sun rises between the two horns of the devil and sets between the two horns of the devil".
The other variant of the same sahih hadith says that: "Satan goes and stands in front of a sun at the times of sunset and sunrise to imitate God. So that's why don't pray at these times".
The only problem is that the sun is CONSTANTLY "rising and setting" SIMULTANEOUSLY on someone somewhere.
These 2 above mentioned hadiths can only be true on a Geocentric Flat Earth model. And these hadiths suggest that prophet Muhammad did not knew that the earth is spherical with heliocentric model.
Thus the Quranic verse: Until, when he reached the setting of the sun [i.e., the west], he found it [as if] setting in a body of dark water, and he found near it a people. We [i.e., Allah] said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness." - Surah 18 Verse 86
WHY would Allah mention here what Dhul-Qarnayn saw? What was so special here? Think? Except that Muhammad believed that the earth was flat when he was making up the Quran.
Aren't you Theists/Muslims tired of defending such countless examples of nonsense in the Quran and Sahih Hadiths yet? Everything is metaphorical and symbolic when it suits you guys or when you guys can't make sense of it. You guys decide what is literal and what is metaphorical at your own convinence (the miracle of reinterpretation lol). Same tactics in all religions. You guys are losing the war against rationality/science/logic and FACTS lol
It's about time that we end this intellectual hypocrisy and get genuine and real with ourselves.
Verily, the truth is indeed going to prevail over the falsehood ;)
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "In very hot weather delay the Zuhr prayer till it becomes (a bit) cooler because the severity of heat is from the raging of the Hell-fire. The Hell-fire of Hell complained to its Lord saying: O Lord! My parts are eating (destroying) one another. So Allah allowed it to take two breaths, one in the winter and the other in the summer. The breath in the summer is at the time when you feel the severest heat and the breath in the winter is at the time when you feel the severest cold."
Muhammad constantly tried explaining the natural phenomenas but failed miserably every time. So say what you want Muslims, the reality is that your prophet was just making things up from his childish imagination to make sense of things around him. We call it 'pseudo-science' lol.
I can go on and on. There's just so much material available to destroy Islam from Islam's own text (Quran/Tafseer, Sahih-Hadiths and Seerah) that it's laughable and unbelievable lol
Btw, I'm an Ex-Muslim Deist from Pakistan :)
Theists believe in religion and things that they can not justify using established Science, Rationality and Logic. That's why they are wrong.
Freethinkers (Atheists, Agnostics and Deists) all reject religion but have different stance regarding god/creator/prime-mover etc.
Atheist: There is no Creator.
Agnostic: We don't know if there's a creator
Deist: There is a Creator because there is creation, design and order in our universe. But we know and can observe that, that Creator does not intervene in this world such as listen to our prayers, do miracles for us, send prophets and holy books to guide us. Those are all man-made attempts to make sense of this world because they are filled with illogical and irrational arguments, unscientific believes and self-contradicting statements.
In practicality, Atheists, Agnostics and Deists are all one. Since they all reject religion and prefer evidence based science and secularism in our society. So they all should stand united against Theism, since they are our real opponents.
So what is your take on (Agnostic) Deism?
I always knew Its only a matter of time Fifi is going down, because he's defending lies.
Yeah, the low-hanging fruit is about to get powdered
Christian pringles still hasnt found Imam Murrah the time traveler 😂😂😂💀💀
If Farid had even one class in logic, he would know not to use the term "begs the question" as he did. Let's face it, we need that fallacy, it's the one all the religions commit.
If you ever had some knowledge about Arabic and Islamic theology you would never comment this nonsense
@@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 You don't even understand my statement, do you?
@@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 what nonsense are you talking about? There’s no nonsense
@@houaribenguesmiachadly6504 There is no proof that god exists, so Islam is nonsense.
the wall wanted to kill itself
just like mohammad when he got his revelations.
Ap is a badass. And OG KING! Love him so much.
Allahuakbar, the ending part is EPIC
It’s not even 15 seconds in the starting and this guy Ap already roasted that Farid..😂😂😂
As a moslem i believe the sentence about sun sets in muddy spring is just methaphorical dude.
@@Rossanna2000 then explain me the metaphorical part in this..
And the response is ...... a pure ass kicking
*”Undoubtedly, We created the polar bears. We created rainforests in Brazil and condemned Mo ham Mad to the barren deserts of Saudia Arabia.”*
- al Qu’ran - Surat’al Penguin / 66 -
⛄️
Are you a new prophet my Lord.
You created a verse better than the quran YOU MUST BE GOD.
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse ( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity..
18 : 86 -
until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water,
where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.”
OR
If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187
It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast.
Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves.
So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you.
So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you.
˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT ,
then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL.
Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques.
These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them.
This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
Thank you for a great refutation. It is great that Farid is having to answer you. No publicity is bad publicity...many viewers of his video will be left asking "what if he is wrong" - only idiots will believe an excuses as "metaphysical" 😂
Only idiots believe in Islam
Does Farid know his body creates pure alcohol everyday. Even when he is in the mosque.
@kryptex5575 Alcohol is banned in Islam so that they can go to heaven and drink from a river of alcohol for ever and ever with his horuses.
@Hussain10911Leave your disgusting cult.
The first 19 Tafsirs (Commentaries on the Qur'an by Muslim scholars) all agreed it literally meant the sun setting in a muddy pool.
True. I agree with you
@U . F . O
Ibn Abbas also said the sun sets in black sludge lol
The following narrations are taken from Al-Farra (d.207) maani Al-Quran and the tafsir of Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari for Q18:86.
حدثنا مـحمد بن الـمثنى، قال: ثنا ابن أبـي عديّ، عن داود، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عبـاس { وَجَدَها تَغْرُبُ فـي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ } قال: فـي طين أسود
Muhammad bin Al-Muthanna
If Mohammad had known that " Day and night are due to the Earth rotating on its axis " , he would not have written such a verse ( 18:86 ) to his book.. What is the benefit of such an ignorant verse, for humanity..
18 : 86 -
until he reached the setting ˹point˺ of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water,
where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.”
OR
If Mohammad had known that " The tilt of the Earth on its axis , causes , the Poles to experience about six months of day and six months of night " he would not have written such a verse ( 2 : 187 ) to his book..
2 : 187
It has been made permissible for you to be intimate with your wives during the nights preceding the fast.
Your spouses are a garment for you as you are for them. Allah knows that you were deceiving yourselves.
So He has accepted your repentance and pardoned you.
So now you may be intimate with them and seek what Allah has prescribed for you.
˹You may˺ eat and drink until you see the LIGHT OF DAWN BREAKING THE DARKNESS OF NIGHT ,
then complete the FAST until NIGHTFALL.
Do not be intimate with your spouses while you are meditating in the mosques.
These are the limits set by Allah, so do not exceed them.
This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to people, so they may become mindful ˹of Him˺.
@@blackjack8043 That’s not in any of the Saheeh hadiths, Ibn Abbas quoted Israelites about this issue, so dont take this as being authoritative.
The sun settled in a muddy pool in the Perceptive of Dhul qarnain. This is a universally accepted fact amongst Scholars. He also saw it arise on a people who were given no shelter from it, is that going to literally mean that the people were burnt by the sun as it arose over the Horizon? Please don’t be silly, don’t come over with your own conclusions.
Petition for AP to wear that robe in every single video.
I second that!
He looks like a boxer between the rounds, it definitely looks like a fighter's robe. 🔥
@@miovicdina7706 Me two
@@hellenwanjiru7965 😸
KEEP SUPPORTING EXMUSLIM MOVEMENT
💪 you got my support.
KEEP SUPPORTING EXCHRISTIAN MOVEMENT
@@tahahagar7664yea christian’s aren’t a threat like child marriage, killing apostate and non muslim islam unlike islam christian’s wont kill u for being nonchristian but spread ur movement 😂
Muslim here, I think the where did the sun go shirt would be hilarious 😂. You should, it'll be like those sports beefs where ppl make iconic merch based on the beef
Should make a shirt that says "I'm metaphysical matter" or just metaphysical matter. Where does the sun go is also good haha
Are the talking trees and donkeys and walking zombies in the Bible a metaphysical matter?
@@tahahagar7664 you assuming OP is christian is the strawiest strawman I've ever seen, xD
@@tahahagar7664
Some hadiths say that the sun set in muddy water.
Some other hadiths says the sun set under the throne of Lah.
So, did these scholars think that Lah's throne was built in muddy water?
Farid must really like Elton John''s Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me for then if the sun so does Farid just might have an answer. .
From India 🙏
Here to aware you fellows about a new movie that is based on a gen¤.cide that took place in kashmir, i would really appreciate if you mention about it in an upcoming video of yours.
Its a fresh out and a really great movie. It talks about how Indian govt. tried to erase the whole incident of the opression on us by the peacefuls.
#thekashmirfiles
Dude Im from Telengana, India. I actually was watching this video just after coming back frrom the movietheatre.
Really good movie which exactly showed to what extent people can be brainwashed and how this whole jehhad system operates.
Sometimes this "discussions" of this fairytale fans remind me of Tolkien fans arguing about Gandlfs background or who really Tom Bombadil was. The only difference? Tolkin fans don't kill for their fantasystory! And Tolkiens work was more well-thought-out than the funny book of the middleeast. No I do'nt mean 1001 nights.
Hey don't dis Tom bombadillo. He could wear the one ring and not get corrupted by it.
You just offended all Christians who believe in talking trees and donkeys and walking zombies
@@tahahagar7664 so? Who cares about offending Christians
Arent't they always worse than we fear?
And all the RUclips commercials: Imam Nouh Kawkab has been showing up before and after your video's asking emergency money to finish the Tampa Florida masjid "Jesus Son of Mary Center".
Mmmm...
They never fail to mention, that "whoever builds a masjid for Allah, even if its as small as the size of a birds nest, Allah will build them a house in Jannah."
Islamic prosperity gospel?
The real meaning of The word of Qu-ran means, When someone ask a
Qu-estion about
Qu-ran
All they do is Ran away from the
Qu-estion.
That's why it's called Qu-ran.
🧠🧠🧠🧠
Go back to sleep
@@youamazing41 sleep is a metaphysical matter
@@hindupetergriffin1937
" seep is a metaphysical matter "
Seems that you love drugs 🤣🤣🤣😂
Underrated comment.
Two places the muslims cannot find:
1. Where is Allah?
2. Where does the Sun go?
1. Allah is above and beyond His creation.
2. Sun goes to the West and goes around the Milky way.
@@tahahagar7664 sun goes to west? 🤣🤣🤣 sun jan.. And milky way is about 225-250 million years. Where is wriiten about this 225-250 million years time.. Answer this question? According to this in our solar system sun doesn’t even move in minute scale
@@tahahagar7664 contradictory claims
Where is Allah?
Upon a throne
He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days; then He mounted the Throne. He knoweth all that entereth the earth and all that emergeth therefrom and all that cometh down from the sky and all that ascendeth therein; and He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah is Seer of what ye do.
Quran 57:4
And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days - and His Throne was upon the water - that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. Yet if thou (O Muhammad) sayest: Lo! ye will be raised again after death! those who disbelieve will surely say: This is naught but mere magic.
Quran 11:7
Everywhere
To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing.
Quran 2:115
His home, the Ka'bah
O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer: so fill the hearts of some among men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they may give thanks.
Quran 14:37
Nearby
When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.
Quran 2:186
We verily created man and We know what his soul whispereth to him, and We are nearer to him than his jugular vein
Quran 50:16
@5:48 the isnad for the English reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 326
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4850
Seems to be
al-Fadl bin Dakayn, Abu Na'eem --» Sulaiman al-A'mash --» Ibrahim bin Yazid - Taym al-Rabab --» Yazid bin Sharayk bin Tariq --» Abu Dharr al-Ghaffari
If you can use the letters more than once, the word you can make out of Farid is "afraid"
@Jamal Ramadan Anus lmao
@red ington Monkeys aren't our ancestors, monkeys and humans simply share a common ancestor.
No, you mustn't kill me because I am alive and I feel stuff just like you. A lack of belief in a god or gods doesn't determine the worthiness of life or living life, you do.
God and morality are not the same thing. I can believe I have morals without believing a god exists. Proof? Me. Seth MacFarlane. Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Bill Burr. Ricky Gervais.
These are all fantastic human beings who care about people and want people to laugh and be excited.
Now, why would they do that if they don't believe in a god? They have nothing afterwards, right?
The experience of giving is a gift in and of itself.
When someone smiles and you're the cause of it, man, that feels so fucking great. It is such a wholesome feeling.
Now, why would I need a god who wants to burn people in hell because they won't give god what god doesn't need nor should want, when he's an evil cunt and I'm better off not listening to such a manipulative psycho?
Atheism isn't an ideology within which such things like "human rights" exist. Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in a god or gods. That's all. Anything else is something else.
Please learn the definition of atheism before trying to mock it and please just learn what evolution ACTUALLY says about the history of the human species.
You'll learn so much and you could finally put effort into something worthwhile instead of embarassing paragraphs that display your lack of understanding.
Read more than one book.
@red ington if morality came from god then could u tell me where was god in banning slavery?
Nor christian nor islam bans it.. And blasphemy laws...So morality didn’t even came from god. Morality came from us with evolution and from our increase of knowledge
I wonder how many words there are in the quran that "are used not as they are normally used" (and in ONE particular instance only) wahadaja, makr (to mean "planner" instead of "deceiver"), salat (to mean "blessing" instead of "pray"), .......
Apostate prophet, you're gaining weight. Take care of your health man. All the best 👍
Science:
Quran: allah holds the universe 🌌 from falling down 👇 on earth 🗾
😂
Poor Japan man
In fact quran says that whale holds the earth.
💀
@@abrorganiev8837 where?
Yes its a literal fact that the atmosphere, universe have a mass that can collapse. Its called the Big Crunch for example. You are scientifically illiterate
Your response should be metaphysical
The following narrations are taken from Al-Farra (d.207) maani Al-Quran and the tafsir of Ibn Jarir Al-Tabari for Q18:86. These reports deal with a debate as to whether the spring where the sun sets in Q18:86 is "muddy" حَمِئَةٍ or warm حامِيَة. Ibn Abbas favours "muddy". However of interest are the small statements he made to four of his companions afterwards: Ikrimah, Attiyah Al-Awfi, Sayd bin Jubayr and Abu Salih.
The first companion Ikrimah records that Ibn Abbas told him after saying the correct recitation is حَمِئَةٍ that this spring is black and sludge.
حدثنا مـحمد بن الـمثنى، قال: ثنا ابن أبـي عديّ، عن داود، عن عكرمة، عن ابن عبـاس { وَجَدَها تَغْرُبُ فـي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ } قال: فـي طين أسود
Muhammad bin Al-Muthanna
Funny how the cockran is clear and specific in its communication, yet here we are having a debate about what it actually says because it is far from that!
This perfectly written text always seems to need elaboration
But how can a perfectly written text need elaboration, unless...
I like to ask muslims why is there abrogation in the fkango-ran? Was morhammered an idiot or did aloha not know what to say?
@Kryptex so you admit that aloha wasn't smart enough to say it right the first time. thus proving the isn't a god put an idoll. why do you worship and idol?
@Kryptex why do you deflect? answer the question. if aloha had to abrogate his verses then he wasn't smart enough to get it right the first time. which means morhammerd was making it up as he wet along.
@Kryptex do you agree that there is a hadith that says if aloha would have created a ppl that didn't sin, he would have destroyed them and create a ppl that did?
Allah doesn't know about the universe!🤣 what a creator Mr Allah!
7:53-8:14 clearly refutes your claim, and demonstrates why it is has to be metaphysical
It is like when someone asks you "do you have time?"
And you reply with "time cant be possessed by anyone"
Give me a break
@U . F . O yeah using basic logic we can easily conclude it is metaphyisical
IF u dont want to use logic, then it is ur problem
The hadiths have Muhammad asking, while it was sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes?". That isn't asking the time, becasue Muhammad and Abu Dharr knew the time. For Muhammad, it was the time where the sun goes under the throne, "prostrate", and awaits permission to 'rise from its rising place'. Or to 'rise from its setting place'. (Muslim159a, Muslim159b, Muslim 159c, Bukhari 3199, Bukhari 7424, Tirmidhi 2186 and 3227)
First I was like why to respond him and make him popular? Now I am like hell yeah!!! if it is going to be this funny😂😂😂
I very recently listen about Michel Onfray (i dont know if his work is foundable in english) about how philosophers and peoples start to really questions the churchs when what they only bring as thoughts are just meta physical and nothing really concret
They were like " ok we are done with this lets start to think by ourself" then we made french révolution and invented human right, also discovered the modern scientific méthodology that make humanity progress so fast and is so efficient that even the most religious peoples cant deny it and instead try to compare their religion to modern Science to prove their religions is right
Where does the bread go after you put it in the toaster?
To the muddy spring
@@abrorganiev8837 ya it's a "meta-physical matter" lol
@@abrorganiev8837 And a tiny little people live by it …
Only allah knows brozzer
Hadith verse 5 says "Allahs Apostle was asked where ones bread goes after placing in a toaster. Allah has revealed that if you look up towards the sky, the devil will throw his spear and burn the toast". Therefore you must recite the Ayah Al Toastie before you put the bread in the toaster.
Saying it is metaphysical is all very well, but there is no explanation of why that is or what it means - almost as if it's just some folk story that got mixed in with all the godly stuff...
I hope Farid never retires . He is my only source of entertainment lately . 😂
man, you're dealing with kindergartens I appreciate you're patience, God bless
I'm in second floor of my hostel and I guess sun is in the first floor cause allah wills everything!
Btw it's a metaphysical matter
Ohoh AP you said he came a cross something, maybe the sun was crusified.
The sun not only goes away but it will ask permission for A***h. If he says "No"... AP please don't lose your blanket!
The ending is awesome!!🤣🤣Special thanks to Farid (Who?) and Saajid👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣What argument?
OMG it's only 20 seconds in and I'm cackling out loud! thanks buddy. you're the best!
AP you should do that outro in all ur next vid🤣
“Farid's video says ‘I don't care’--- oh wait, it's my notes”
Classic, signature AP moments!! 🤣🤣🤣
P.S. Are we *still* talking about this sun ishh? Just why.
Not even 12sec and I'm ROLF😆😆🤣🤣
Im not the one who decided the journey of the Sun in Muhammad fantasy world 😂
Love the clap! I rewound it several times. Go AP!
😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩 AP, you have the patience of a saint! God bless you beloved atheist!
actually the Isnad seems to be
'Uthman bin Muhammad (Abi Shayba)
* Yazid bin Harun --»
Sufyan bin Hussain bin al-Hasan --»
al-Hakam bin 'Utayba --»
Ibrahim bin Yazid - Taym al-Rabab --»
Yazid bin Sharayk bin Tariq --»
Abu Dharr al-Ghaffari
Book: Dialects and Readings of the Qur'an (Kitab Al-Huruf Wa Al-Qira'at)
Grade: Sahih in chain (Al-Albani) صحيح الإسناد (الألباني) ٠
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4002
In-book reference : Book 32, Hadith 34
English translation : Book 31, Hadith 3991
Love you and god bless you brother.
You know you are biting more than you can chew when you Start saying crazy stuff you don't understand like "it's a META PHYSICAL matter" 😂😂😂
Farid can't respond, only complain.
The ending with Hikma Sajid is epic!!
I would so buy a "Hey Muslims, where does the sun go at night" T-shirt.
I would even buy one for Ali Dumb-dumb.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Since when Muslims apologists make any sense ?
I mean it is comedy 🎭.!
Mountains are pegs that prevent earthquakes, and the Sun travels from East to West under the Earth, man, this is not even accepted science in Dungeons & Dragons. 🤣🤣🤣
It CAN be
@@TheKyrix82
It CAN be?????????????????
@@gustgoris8009 In D&D, anything the DM decides about the world is so. So if the DM says the world is a flat plane resting on the butt of a goat...then it is.
@@TheKyrix82
D&D, DM
Sorry, help me.
@@gustgoris8009 D&D = Dungeons and Dragons
DM = Dungeon Master
Dungeon Master = The narrator of the game world
Ex muslim ap: debunks
Muslim watching now: suprise pikachu face*
Also another look at the comments section not one person is defending this 💀
Muslim arguments r jokes that really aren't funny anymore
I don't think Farid understands the meaning of the term "metaphysical". He might be confusing it the with either "metaphorical" or "mystical".
Allah is so smart that instead of fertile lands in Ukraine and Russia he put his chosen people on a desert.
You can't win with these people. If all in life goes well Allah just bless you. If all go bad Allah just loves you and wants to test you more
Allah says sun goes around flat earth, sets in a muddy spring, hides under Allah's throne at night and comes up back again when Allah permits..
Used to read surah al Kahf every Friday for years. 😐🤦🏻♀️
It doesn't flow well like other surahs. Such a waste of time. Check out the Masked Arabs video analysing this Surah so comprehensive.
What a liar, Surah al Kahf are one of the beautiful surahs in the Quran with consistent rhymes like surah Muhammad, Al Rahman and Ahzab. The reason why many of us Muslims doubt these supposed ex Muslims is because you say moronic ignorant stuff that we cannot believe you ever were Muslims.
Also that masked loser was exposed by Asadullah Al Andalusi a long time ago
@@tahahagar7664 So triggered that someone disagrees 🤦🏻♀️ It doesnt flow heard so many other sisters say it too.
it narrates different stories and as usual actually leaves it for tafsirs to speculate for centuries what it means. The MA video title the Surah that gave the Charlatan away is perfect description. Showing how the Quran is the biggest proof that Mo was the real LIAR.
Typical dawah boy language 'exposed' yeh right?
I saw some of the attempts to discredit Masked Arab's work, another waste of time...
And I know Andalusi lies and used to bully Klingschor. He's the one who said there are hundreds of closet ex Muslim leading prayers, huffaz incl teachers (your huge self absorbed egos think people need to prove this to you lot).
But we must all be fake, for your little brain which can't grasp practicing people leaving it.
If the sun sets in a spring of dark mud, the mud becomes very hot I think. Looks like you have a nice, comfy robe, AP. Can you have your dog in another video sometime please, AP? (Cathy Mikulus)
Farida leaks is a sad person.
1:25 AHA! Dhul-Qarnain THOUGHT he saw a people next to the murky spring he thought he saw!
Hahaha... AP edited his own video to score points against Farid. Really? Are you THAT desperate??
I love your sense of humor brother :D plus, it is so hard to take the quran seriously smh
My mind is made up about where the sun sets. Farid should stop confusing me with wisdom and honesty
😅
The sun sets in the west. Any dictionary will tell you that. The fact that you dont know this shows the level of people who are involved in anti Islam polemics.
@@tahahagar7664 Wycliffe knows where the sun sets,Quran doesn't
@@tahahagar7664 so you are contradicting with muslim sources which state that the sun sets in a muddy spring 😂
AP, your voice has gotten much more deeper
I just read this today and I love this part of the Quran. It is proof for the falsehood of Islam.
One of many proofs, agreed! 😁
Quran says it is a clear book multiple times.
Hello AP , can you make a livestream with David Wood in which you will respond to Farid Responds videos and his arguments. But there's another youtuber called Detective O'will who is making response videos.
David wood has been blocked on RUclips again 😭
The ending is 10/10
😂😂😂let’s spread this beautiful channel
Farid is embarrassing.
The Sun slept in our home yesterday. I’ll let it go now. Wait please 🤣
Did you put an alarm to make sure it goes to allah to know where he can postrate itself??
@@fvillag1Excuse me?
@@Sherzodbek_Abdullayev It was a joke, since the cult of islam believes the sun goes somewhere where to postrate to allah..... so I posted the joke of putting an alarm to the sun.
to say AS IF in Arabic is kamma low. if it doesn't say that then we have to assume it was literal, I don't care if Allah's pen ran dry of ink at that point and didn't bother to finish the sentence properly.
I laughed at the part where AP holding his chin, Ali dawah imitates him. LOL!
“Why keep doing this?” 😂