Amazing writing. They did such a good job with Stella's character. She really feels like a real person and even though her entire life is lived through manipulating others, and the horrible things she did, I can't help but feel sorry for her, for how lonely she must be.
That's exactly how my mom is. Playing the victim. She just texted me moving back here and ranted at me. She said "I'll tell your dad you don't want to see me."
The stupid thing is Ben grew up like this. Just like Stella, convinced his dad didn't love him, accept him, see him, Ben burnt Louise with a spoon and he turned hateful and all his life he blamed his Dad because he reckoned Phil was ashamed of him. Phil loved him, didn't understand him but Phil always protected him. Ben and Stella are the same kind of people. Reckon they were unloved, and this need to be seen, to be accepted was always there and they both could be hateful and cruel only they don't see themselves as the Bullies they see themselves as the victim of their own brain.
Wtf Ben only became like that because of the abuse he suffered it’s actually very common for people who have been abused to treat others the same as their brains become wired to interact in an aggressive and manipulative way
@@shannonclark8313 I'm not buying it. Sure, it's not an uncommon thing but Ben set his Dad up for something years ago, so he's always had a hateful vengeful spirit, he's lied, he's killed etc. I like the Ben who plays him now but I didn't like the pervious Ben, the one who says is he now a Mitchell because he's tried to put his Dad behind bars - and I'm saying this now just because in reality I know people who have been abused, a boy at my school actually who suffered abuse and he was one of the nicest people anyone could ever meet, was really grateful anything you did for him and used ways to better himself so I don't believe that, I used to, years ago but people make their choices. You can't use their past as an excuse for bad behaviour even though I learnt that the hard way. Reverse this, would you feel obligated to defend someone who has raised his hand to his wife and repeatedly hurt her to then sit down and tell her after in a tender moment how he was attacked and hit by his Dad or his Step Dad as a child. Does that make it right to now exert that energy to hitting his wife another time he gets so angry? Or is his wife going to justify staying because she now has to heal that wounded inner boy who was abused by his Dad and love him better? Because it's not her job. Try and think about it like that. You might be a loving caring person who leans to an individuals past to justify why they're acting the way they are in the present but can't you see by doing that essentially your enabling that bad behaviour instead of saying that you understand the pain, feel the sorrow but reminding them to make better choices - just as much we are able to create who we want to be in life - other people have that exact same option.
@@alcudiababe1 You’re right, it doesn’t justify or even slightly excuse that behaviour. If a person who was abused is still so angry about it that they start becoming the same, then they should go get therapy, and any other help necessary to avoid becoming the same, then people might believe that they genuinely have issues and are not just hiding behind past horrors to use them as an excuse to commit their own
I know Phil played his part in causing Ben damage with drinking after this a year later, but also Ben's awful experience at the hands of Stella is what made him the damaged and hurt person he is today in the story, amongst other things of course
This isn’t why Ben is messed up or a killer. Those where his choices. People are raised worse and don’t turn out to be murderers So this has nothing to do with it!💯
Im hindsight this could have been an interesting time to draw a parallel between the way Phil was tormented and beaten as a child. What a haunting end it would have been to make him realise that that they are one and the same. Both unhinged bullies in their own way, not because thats who they are, but because they were both warped as children.
Amazing writing. They did such a good job with Stella's character. She really feels like a real person and even though her entire life is lived through manipulating others, and the horrible things she did, I can't help but feel sorry for her, for how lonely she must be.
They never wanted to rehabilitate her though, they wanted to just kill her off as punishment.
That's where Sophie Thompson deserves more credit.
Her acting is SO good.
Lol, the way Phil looked at his hands like “strange, I didn’t even wring her neck or push her. Feels weird” 😂
Like "I'm a Jedi"
Wow would you look at that magic hands lol
Actually it was to make the viewers ask themselves did Phil just push her?
LOL
Funny how he's never actually killed anyone
You ain't gonna do it
WaAtTcCh Me DadDyY.!
Sophie Thompson is such an underrated Actress.
I’ve always loved her acting.😅
"Oh here we go, no one cares about your sister!" 🤣🤣🤣
I found that bit funny too 🤣🤣🤣
That's exactly how my mom is. Playing the victim. She just texted me moving back here and ranted at me. She said "I'll tell your dad you don't want to see me."
one thing in stellas favour this wasnt the 2000-2003 phil otherwise she wouldnt have made it out of the registry office.
The stupid thing is Ben grew up like this. Just like Stella, convinced his dad didn't love him, accept him, see him, Ben burnt Louise with a spoon and he turned hateful and all his life he blamed his Dad because he reckoned Phil was ashamed of him.
Phil loved him, didn't understand him but Phil always protected him. Ben and Stella are the same kind of people. Reckon they were unloved, and this need to be seen, to be accepted was always there and they both could be hateful and cruel only they don't see themselves as the Bullies they see themselves as the victim of their own brain.
Wtf Ben only became like that because of the abuse he suffered it’s actually very common for people who have been abused to treat others the same as their brains become wired to interact in an aggressive and manipulative way
@@shannonclark8313 I'm not buying it. Sure, it's not an uncommon thing but Ben set his Dad up for something years ago, so he's always had a hateful vengeful spirit, he's lied, he's killed etc. I like the Ben who plays him now but I didn't like the pervious Ben, the one who says is he now a Mitchell because he's tried to put his Dad behind bars - and I'm saying this now just because in reality I know people who have been abused, a boy at my school actually who suffered abuse and he was one of the nicest people anyone could ever meet, was really grateful anything you did for him and used ways to better himself so I don't believe that, I used to, years ago but people make their choices. You can't use their past as an excuse for bad behaviour even though I learnt that the hard way.
Reverse this, would you feel obligated to defend someone who has raised his hand to his wife and repeatedly hurt her to then sit down and tell her after in a tender moment how he was attacked and hit by his Dad or his Step Dad as a child.
Does that make it right to now exert that energy to hitting his wife another time he gets so angry? Or is his wife going to justify staying because she now has to heal that wounded inner boy who was abused by his Dad and love him better? Because it's not her job. Try and think about it like that. You might be a loving caring person who leans to an individuals past to justify why they're acting the way they are in the present but can't you see by doing that essentially your enabling that bad behaviour instead of saying that you understand the pain, feel the sorrow but reminding them to make better choices - just as much we are able to create who we want to be in life - other people have that exact same option.
@@alcudiababe1 You’re right, it doesn’t justify or even slightly excuse that behaviour. If a person who was abused is still so angry about it that they start becoming the same, then they should go get therapy, and any other help necessary to avoid becoming the same, then people might believe that they genuinely have issues and are not just hiding behind past horrors to use them as an excuse to commit their own
Phil looked like an angry lion
Stella was an evil witch and a horrible person to ben
No shit
She was also very manipulative
Stella was pure evil and she’ll be burning in hell now
She wasn’t evil, she was disturbed.😊
@@BLTKellys Evil people usually are
2:48 that was Phil Mitchell's very own Tommy wisuea moment
.."STELLLLLLAAAAA"
I didn't push her. I did naaahht!
Oh hi Grant
"You're tearing my apart, Stella"
3:55 lol and they say romance is dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"I thought you look after Ben Iron my shirts 👕 and keep your mouth shut for the next 30 years"
Haha!
@@westminsterwatcher5152I updated it so you can press the time on my comment, jez Phil as aged
Good riddance to the manipulative hypocrite Stella Crawford
Yeah I was happy to see her go
4:50 and that’s how Mary Poppins Died whet umbrella didn’t open, that he a lesson to you all, don’t forget your umbrella !
This is exactly what's going to happen to Lewis when phil finds out what he did to ben
....and now a toast to the bridesmaids....
I know Phil played his part in causing Ben damage with drinking after this a year later, but also Ben's awful experience at the hands of Stella is what made him the damaged and hurt person he is today in the story, amongst other things of course
This isn’t why Ben is messed up or a killer. Those where his choices. People are raised worse and don’t turn out to be murderers So this has nothing to do with it!💯
Im hindsight this could have been an interesting time to draw a parallel between the way Phil was tormented and beaten as a child. What a haunting end it would have been to make him realise that that they are one and the same. Both unhinged bullies in their own way, not because thats who they are, but because they were both warped as children.
How can she try and turn it into Phils fault... manipulator! Child abuser! How can anyone harm an innocent child 😢
Those big iron gates didn’t leave one mark or scratch on the car
Where on the Von Trapp family singers ?
I just realised - Sophie Thompson is the sister of Dame Emma Thompson!!
Well look who's just caught up 😂
one of the people over the years that the writers really should have let Phil murder so he could be Taken more seriously as a criminal.
Don’t hate me but 1% of me felt sorry for Stella. She was mentally sick.
Do you think Phil fixed the car
3:56😂😂
“Watch me daddy” alluding to how her dad abused her?
16:16 watch me daddy
Even though she was an abuser, I kinda feel sorry for Stella. She was basically a doormat while being with Phil.
Same. Her parents ignored her and blamed her. She could have been nice.
Kk I feel so bad… she died depressed😢
To be fair to Stella, that version of Ben was very annoying.
What series is this?
Ohhhhhh that was very satisfying
What's that car name?
What am I gonna do?
Hey Google, please give us a definition of narcissistic disorder.
Trust me daddy
Watch*
even the CAR was laughing
good riddance to bad rubbish
Dude.
She crazy psco
Why are the crazy ones the most beautiful ones though 😂
she start playing daddy
Please block Phil Michael on you tube
Alright then.
Ok
why would you want to block him for
Umm you know it's acting right?
Phil is the best