@agadmator: [ The first use of such a rule was in a tournament in London in 1883, but was stated vaguely: "... if a series of moves be repeated three times the opponent can claim a draw." The rules for the first official World Chess Championship 1886 match between Wilhelm Steinitz and Johannes Zukertort stated: "... if both players repeat the same series of moves six times in succession, then either player may claim a draw." In two of the games the same position was repeated three times. The rule was modified soon afterward to be based on positions instead of moves, and for three repetitions (McCrary 2004). ]
During this Capa series, i have found myself more and more intrigued with Lasker, his style is hard to place. That dude could play any position like he ment it to be that way
Incredible how strong was Lasker a that age. It was the beginning of the end of a great champion thougth he continue playing great chess for many more years just like Kasparov.
"Love is so strange how we change our day to night. Love is so strange how we change our black to white" Well this a part of lyrics from 80/90's rock band Mr. Mister and it has probably nothing to do with the given topic but still this game reminds me of them. Rock n roll! 🤘✌️
Viva Capa! Finally this series is getting some spice to it! I was going to need a Nezhmetdinov game to brighten my day if this match didn't pick up lol
Thanks for the video. The important detail in case of threefold repetition is that the same player is to move. If one has a position three times and two times is black to move and once white it is not a draw.
At 19:02 it is better to play queen to e5 check becoz it is forced line and you have to trade queens otherwise you lose it and the point is the knight on e3 is just undefended so queen has to capture on e5 and than you know what the next simple rook caputers on e5 and the knight is lost Same as the variation at 19:48 😅
I am looking at these world championship games with help of Stockfish-13. On move 15, for black, instead of immediately recapturing the white bishop on f6, Stockfish-13 evaluates capturing the white knight on f3 with 15...Bxf3 as significantly superior to both 15...Nxf6 and 15...Qxf6 (which was played) leading to some exciting positions, many ending in perpetual check. IMHO its really worth looking at the amazing lines.
On 1. Ke7, I like 1...Qe5+ 2. Qxe5 (otherwise you lose your Queen) Rxe5+ 3. Rxe5. A lot less variations. If you like working on combinations, google Deja Scacchi. There you can download pdf files of old (1700's) to recent positions (2000's) to test your vast combinational skills!
The battle between Capablanca and Lasker.I like watching games by great chess players and the outcome and series of moves hosted by Agadmator . Whether it is any strong player Magnus , Nakamura, Levon , Anand and some others.Chess is a good game to learn and play.
At 19:00 I just saw Qe5+ gaining the knight. In the end it turns out to be the same result you shown in the final line without having to read 6-7 moves ahead!
It's always a good thing to make your opponent have a chance to blunder. Oversimplifying is rarely the good way to go. At their level it usually doesn't make much difference since they usually find the moves but if you work for a position/sequence, your opponent have to work to decipher it as well :)
On the last position if Ke7 by Lasker there is also the immediate Qe5+ which leaves Capablanca a rook and three pawns without the extra moves that's the first one I saw because I don't like over complications...
#suggestion FIDE Grand Prix Riga Wesley So versus Sergey Karjakin, the first blitz game, where So has the white pieces. So sacrifices the queen and we have a completely crazy game on the board.
Lasker was at his sly best in this game but the peak Capablanca still navigated through the maze. High level chess here. There were so many ways for both players to lose it and finally Lasker broke.
@Fanne Aeris That is indeed speculation and/or excuses and I don't buy it. He played very well in this game until the end. He played well in most of the others and played well in the years before and after this. The average temperature in Havana in March (when this game was played) is about 25 degrees, like any European summer and for sure cooler than a New York summer. When proud chess players lose, there is always an excuse from them or their fans.
@Oissev Onos What the hell are you blabbing about? No one has taken any credit away from Lasker, certainly I have always given him credit but he lost this game and the match. That is just a fact and he lost it to a truly superb player. That is also a fact. If you are arguing against that, you are just being silly. Grind your axe whatever it is with someone else.
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Who said it was? The point is that Havana at that time of the year is very comfortable and certainly not hotter than New York or Europe would be in the Summer, i.e. temperatures that Lasker would be very familiar with and at which Lasker had played serious chess successfully many times.
I find Qb8 move and I think that After Ke5, Qe5+ Is even stronger than Re5 because you forced trader of Queens and then picks up the night with a nice fork
This was sad like you indicated. Lasker played exceptional chess for his age, make me wonder if both men met in their prime what the result would've been? However even the brightest chess flame must one day pass the torch on...yet I felt kind of sad.
0:12 I was thinking you can also skip watching the video and go to the end to see who won, but I remembered Agad's voice telling me : That's just silly 😂
Don't know maybe I'm just dumb, but after Qb8+ if Ke7, doesn't Qe5+ wins straightaway? Black has to trade queens and after Qxe5 Rxe5+ Black loses the Knight anyway. I don't mind the variations, but since Capablanca himself preferred not to complicate things as he was 'Lazy', I think he'd have gone for that.
Threefold repetition did exist back then, but the draw had to be claimed by a player. Neither side claimed the draw, so they kept on playing the rest of the game.
After Qb8 and Ke7 it seems to me that Qe5+ is winning on the spot as it force a queen exchange (Qxe5 Rxe5+) and after any move with the king Rxe3 picks up the knight We end with a similar position that you’ve shown in the last line but most quickly
But this line does not let a chance to your opponent to blunder to end the game quicklier but i think that Capablanca would have been to lazy to calculate yours
The easiest win which is all forced is after black plays Ke7 white plays Qe5 check and now black must trade queens and after white plays Rxe5+ white wins the black knight.
The explanation at the resignation position 19:00 seems over elaborate. After black plays Ke7 then Qe5 check forces the exchange of Queens and white recaptures with Rxe5 check, picking up the Knight on the next move?
In minute 19:28 I think you made a slight inaccuracy! I might be wrong though! If you capture the pawn on a7 the black king can go to c6 and no more checks can be made from there except for one where the white queen goes to Qa4 but after the exchange it's difficult to say who has the better position! I am a huge fan btw! :)
after Qb8 I saw this variation: Ke7, Qe5+, QxQ, RxQ+, King anywhere, Rxe3 ... white gets an extra rook quicker than the other variation...unless i'm seeing something wrong...
Well, a threefold repetition didnt exist back then. There was a rule that declared that a game would end if any sequence of moves were repeated three times in a row. But here is a problem- we can prove, that using a Thue-Morse sequence allows us to create an infinite game of chess. It was shown by non-other than the great GM Max Euwe and thanks to his insane mathematical and chess skills we now have a finite game of chess with a modern threefold repetition rule
Hi @Agadmator: Could you please comment a recent game between Parham Maghsoodloo and Vasili Ivanchuk? I think the game was on 7th of July in XXXII Magistral Ciudad de León. Thank you.
3:27 "The question is NO" 😂😂
holy shit ahahahaahahaha😂😂😂😂
It means he is so much into this 😂😂 keep up the good work agad :)
no?
Yes?
:P
@agadmator: [ The first use of such a rule was in a tournament in London in 1883, but was stated vaguely: "... if a series of moves be repeated three times the opponent can claim a draw." The rules for the first official World Chess Championship 1886 match between Wilhelm Steinitz and Johannes Zukertort stated: "... if both players repeat the same series of moves six times in succession, then either player may claim a draw." In two of the games the same position was repeated three times. The rule was modified soon afterward to be based on positions instead of moves, and for three repetitions (McCrary 2004). ]
THANKS FOR THIS VAST KNOWLEDGE!
During this Capa series, i have found myself more and more intrigued with Lasker, his style is hard to place. That dude could play any position like he ment it to be that way
Had the same thought. Is there a Lasker saga?
I loved the quote: "I had a quarter of an hour to think, but was absolutely incapable of doing so."
How many times have I felt just like that?
jx14aby 121 times
Lasker also just was a human eh?
Incredible how strong was Lasker a that age. It was the beginning of the end of a great champion thougth he continue playing great chess for many more years just like Kasparov.
Gary had quit chess by the time he hit Lasker's age.
And Karpov also
@Oissev Onos this is not football man
Lasker was tired, tired of being the best, the target of every young chess player. He just wanted to sit around the café and play some chess
Nothing wrong with that😆
Lol nothing it’s kinda all I want to do too
The man remained world champion for 27 years. Holy moly
So Good content! My Favorite RUclips Channel so far!
It was a really tactical game. The whole match has been so competitive.
I love the way Lasker plays, with such style and grace...even in defeat.
He wasn't the world chess champion for so many years because of some shady tactical moves...🤪😜
@@gauravjha8938 ?
When your opponent is so old, that he is still black and white.
I love Laskers picture!
Black and White is all we need for chess...
LOL nooo
lmao
"Love is so strange how we change our day to night. Love is so strange how we change our black to white"
Well this a part of lyrics from 80/90's rock band Mr. Mister and it has probably nothing to do with the given topic but still this game reminds me of them.
Rock n roll! 🤘✌️
18:54: Much simpler is Q-e5+, QxQ, RxQ+ and then RxN. (Which some variants get to in the more complicated lines agadmator showed.)
A faster win at 18:53 is QE5 check, forcing a trade of queens, and then the rook checks with a knight fork, ending a rook up.
#suggestion
Duda vs Mamedyarov Grand Prix 2019 R2 tiebreakers first game.
Duda played a very nice queen sac. Awesome line.
Viva Capa! Finally this series is getting some spice to it! I was going to need a Nezhmetdinov game to brighten my day if this match didn't pick up lol
19:47 captures captures and.. sorry, not that 😂😂
blunder
Capablanca mouse slip
I know the feeling. How i wish i can sorry not that all my mouse slips
Thanks again for this Saga. I really enjoy the history and stories.
I heard John Green is writing a book about chess players trying to recreate great lost classics. It's going to be called Looking for a Lasker.
This is what future students will have to read in English classes.
#suggestion Duda vs Svidler, the one Duda won, I loved it
I agree :) btw great nickname :D
To nie jestem jedynym Polakiem u agadmatora..? Nie może być :)
@@DziamxD Myślę, że jest tu całkiem sporo Polaków :)
Agadmator is so cute trying to hide the spoiler he always does with the video title and/or thumb =]
Thanks for the video. The important detail in case of threefold repetition is that the same player is to move. If one has a position three times and two times is black to move and once white it is not a draw.
Wow, what a monumental combination battle between two giants.
Great analysis. Agree that Lasker played an amazing 5 games before the final move blunder in this game, which was a pity.
What an exquisite ending by Capablanca , simply stunning , especially the Qc8+ move.
Holy crap I was totally thinking about queen to C6 that's awesome
At 19:02 it is better to play queen to e5 check becoz it is forced line and you have to trade queens otherwise you lose it and the point is the knight on e3 is just undefended so queen has to capture on e5 and than you know what the next simple rook caputers on e5 and the knight is lost
Same as the variation at 19:48 😅
Ohh..The Good Stuff..!!!
Another delicious game, big shoutout from Pakistan!
qaesar09 pkmkb
Pkmkb😂
Delicious is a description of food dear....
The pawn on a7 was too spicy for consumption
Pkmkb
My kind of afternoon. Thanks Agadmator.
I am looking at these world championship games with help of Stockfish-13. On move 15, for black, instead of immediately recapturing the white bishop on f6, Stockfish-13 evaluates capturing the white knight on f3 with 15...Bxf3 as significantly superior to both 15...Nxf6 and 15...Qxf6 (which was played) leading to some exciting positions, many ending in perpetual check. IMHO its really worth looking at the amazing lines.
On 1. Ke7, I like 1...Qe5+ 2. Qxe5 (otherwise you lose your Queen) Rxe5+ 3. Rxe5. A lot less variations. If you like working on combinations, google Deja Scacchi. There you can download pdf files of old (1700's) to recent positions (2000's) to test your vast combinational skills!
You going for 500k? YES OF COURSE YOU DO!
The question is "yes".
What a beautiful chess commentor you are.
The battle between Capablanca and Lasker.I like watching games by great chess players and the outcome and series of moves hosted by Agadmator . Whether it is any strong player Magnus , Nakamura, Levon , Anand and some others.Chess is a good game
to learn and play.
Just excellent!
16:52 if you try something from behind... lol
What a worthy opponent Dr. Lasker was, yet Capablanca is Campablanca. My favorite RUclips channel.
At 19:00 I just saw Qe5+ gaining the knight. In the end it turns out to be the same result you shown in the final line without having to read 6-7 moves ahead!
It's always a good thing to make your opponent have a chance to blunder. Oversimplifying is rarely the good way to go. At their level it usually doesn't make much difference since they usually find the moves but if you work for a position/sequence, your opponent have to work to decipher it as well :)
Such a wonderful game Agad. Thanks for making my day🙂
On the last position if Ke7 by Lasker there is also the immediate Qe5+ which leaves Capablanca a rook and three pawns without the extra moves that's the first one I saw because I don't like over complications...
Great video as as always and such a wonderful game.
Qe5+ after Ke7 leaves you up a rook directly as in 19:55 ,which is easier to calculate
Nice game. Well done Agadmator!!
18:05 : "no water break..."
Keep up the Capablanca saga Agad! Very interested to see how this plays out
Thank you so much Agadmator for all your hard work!
The quote is so funny as it is so relatable 😂
#suggestion
FIDE Grand Prix Riga
Wesley So versus Sergey Karjakin, the first blitz game, where So has the white pieces. So sacrifices the queen and we have a completely crazy game on the board.
Lasker was at his sly best in this game but the peak Capablanca still navigated through the maze. High level chess here. There were so many ways for both players to lose it and finally Lasker broke.
@Fanne Aeris That is indeed speculation and/or excuses and I don't buy it. He played very well in this game until the end. He played well in most of the others and played well in the years before and after this. The average temperature in Havana in March (when this game was played) is about 25 degrees, like any European summer and for sure cooler than a New York summer. When proud chess players lose, there is always an excuse from them or their fans.
@Oissev Onos What the hell are you blabbing about? No one has taken any credit away from Lasker, certainly I have always given him credit but he lost this game and the match. That is just a fact and he lost it to a truly superb player. That is also a fact. If you are arguing against that, you are just being silly. Grind your axe whatever it is with someone else.
@@somewhere6 NY in March is never 25°C.
@@a.m.armstrong8354 Who said it was? The point is that Havana at that time of the year is very comfortable and certainly not hotter than New York or Europe would be in the Summer, i.e. temperatures that Lasker would be very familiar with and at which Lasker had played serious chess successfully many times.
Lasker deserves his own saga I think.
I find Qb8 move and I think that After Ke5, Qe5+ Is even stronger than Re5 because you forced trader of Queens and then picks up the night with a nice fork
I am so sad that the longest reigning world champion lost this game.
@Oissev Onos Yeah, hanging in there down an exchange, but with the queen and knight positioned so well to be an ongoing threat to the white king.
If king to e7 then qe5 check qxe5 rxe5 check forking the king and the knight..it is faster
Danke für die tolle Arbeit ! Bleib so wie du bist ! Liebe Grüsse aus Bayern
"Thanks for the great work ! Stay true to yourself ! Greetings from Bayern"
Just gonna do some translating because I've nothing to do atm
In the final position, I don't understand why to play RE5 after KE7. QE5 wins immediately, since you take the knight after the exchange of queens.
Same idea here. I guess that Capa also would have played Qe5+ :)
@@Sletty73 Well. Who knows? We are not Capablaca after all.
This was sad like you indicated. Lasker played exceptional chess for his age, make me wonder if both men met in their prime what the result would've been? However even the brightest chess flame must one day pass the torch on...yet I felt kind of sad.
"Activity above all." I like that!
I was waiting for this
As far as I know this rule has been introduced by Max Euwe when he was the president of FIDE.
0:12 I was thinking you can also skip watching the video and go to the end to see who won, but I remembered Agad's voice telling me : That's just silly 😂
Yay we got a video. I thought you might have forgotten about us 😂😂
Wow, what a game.
Great game and super comments!
Don't know maybe I'm just dumb, but after Qb8+ if Ke7, doesn't Qe5+ wins straightaway? Black has to trade queens and after Qxe5 Rxe5+ Black loses the Knight anyway. I don't mind the variations, but since Capablanca himself preferred not to complicate things as he was 'Lazy', I think he'd have gone for that.
About 19:00, Qe5 exchanges queens and wins knight
15:44 if the king trades the queens off then the knight could take the pawn forking the rook and king winning a rook
#suggestion MVL vs Topalov Riga Gran Prix
Threefold repetition did exist back then, but the draw had to be claimed by a player. Neither side claimed the draw, so they kept on playing the rest of the game.
and i say hvala! to everyone
Emanuel Lasker is an absolute Legend.
3:27 the question is ~NOOO~ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
After Qb8 and Ke7 it seems to me that Qe5+ is winning on the spot as it force a queen exchange (Qxe5 Rxe5+) and after any move with the king Rxe3 picks up the knight
We end with a similar position that you’ve shown in the last line but most quickly
But this line does not let a chance to your opponent to blunder to end the game quicklier but i think that Capablanca would have been to lazy to calculate yours
"The question is -- No."
- Agadmator
At 18:51 after Ke7, Qe5+ wins the knight much faster than the line you have shown in the video
at 19:52 you can see: if black plays the best defense white is a rook up.
thats why I said Qe5+ gives the same result but faster.
The easiest win which is all forced is after black plays Ke7 white plays Qe5 check and now black must trade queens and after white plays Rxe5+ white wins the black knight.
thank you so much
The explanation at the resignation position 19:00 seems over elaborate. After black plays Ke7 then Qe5 check forces the exchange of Queens and white recaptures with Rxe5 check, picking up the Knight on the next move?
16:07....he says “back with the Night King” 😂
that queen a3 move reminded me of fischer vs spassky game 6
Are there any games in the data base were the queens gambit is ever acceptable and would that be a completely new game.
Thanks so much for creating this content. I like modern games more though :)
Witold Chudy whaaaat
Good stuff
Activity above all.
-Agadmator
20:24 this is not what I thought it would be ..cuz of the pics lol
😍😍😍😍😍😍❤️ Capablanca Saga
4:26 why can't you capture the d4 pawn with Nxd4?
Black Rxc1 and then Rxh1, and White loses the game
After Ke7... Isn't it easier to play Qe5+, force queen trade and then pick up the knight? 🤔
"The answer is NO". Noticed by many... It only means how much we are concentrating on each word of Agad
Dont you mean "the question is no"?
such a beautiful game
In minute 19:28 I think you made a slight inaccuracy! I might be wrong though! If you capture the pawn on a7 the black king can go to c6 and no more checks can be made from there except for one where the white queen goes to Qa4 but after the exchange it's difficult to say who has the better position! I am a huge fan btw! :)
after Qb8 I saw this variation: Ke7, Qe5+, QxQ, RxQ+, King anywhere, Rxe3 ... white gets an extra rook quicker than the other variation...unless i'm seeing something wrong...
When asking such questions it is better to give the time at which this position was on the board so it becomes easier.
@@eccentrichorse11 the last position after Qb8...
No you are not seeing anything wrong. It is much faster than the lines agad showed. Maybe he just missed it
Capa might have missed a move r two in the middle game but he pounced on the death blow
18:54 why not queen to e5 check to either black captures and will lose his knight as well or he moves the king and just loses the queen
In the final position, after ke7 why not Qe5 instead of the rook? Forces queen trade and wins knight immediately, seems much simpler.
Well, a threefold repetition didnt exist back then. There was a rule that declared that a game would end if any sequence of moves were repeated three times in a row. But here is a problem- we can prove, that using a Thue-Morse sequence allows us to create an infinite game of chess. It was shown by non-other than the great GM Max Euwe and thanks to his insane mathematical and chess skills we now have a finite game of chess with a modern threefold repetition rule
19:00 why not qe6+ instead of re6+ . wouldn't that be sooner than the long line where the result is same?
Am I missing something at 3:13 ? Wouldn’t bishop g capture knight f be a great move since you either mess up the pawn structure or win material?
Kd7xf6?
#suggestion can u show any Leonid Yudasin games on your channel? He truly is a legend
Hi @Agadmator: Could you please comment a recent game between Parham Maghsoodloo and Vasili Ivanchuk? I think the game was on 7th of July in XXXII Magistral Ciudad de León. Thank you.
8:09 Free e3 pawn!
Good stuff xD