I needed this, recently got back into fireworks after a 20yr hiatus. Spent 2k this 4th on them..eye opener seeing this lol. Def going that route nxt yr. Appreciated!!
We get to the highest discount level in a big group buy every year. Some times guys will split cases, but mostly we are happy to buy full cases. It’s very good pricing.
Another very informative video and yes I ordered 2 pallets wholesale this year but not from S76. I ordered 1 from red apple during their early Black Friday which is the best sale of the year. The second from superior in February when they had there best prices of the year. As I expand my fireworks show and knowledge I will branch out to other companies like S76. Thanks for the very informative video.
That is awesome to hear! You make some great points that some of the best deals are in the colder months before the thick of the summer firework season. Superior makes some great stuff. I have a few of their Showline items in my show this year too. I haven't purchased from Red Apple before.
wait you located around columbia mo thats awesome,we do a nice big show every year this way that you explain in this vid. my bud just goes to his guy who is a local spirit 76 dealer.
Comes down to planning and preparation is one person just blowing off fireworks to have fun or trying to create a show. Excitement just to blow things off is great, with that the thought process is not clear for creating a show. Buying a few days before and event just creates blowing off fireworks. I believe when buying whole sale the thoughts of creating a show starts to happen and that is the exciting part. To actually visualize and prepare a show is most of the fun. We are close to that time, great video Joel. 2 Fortune Soldiers, 2 Mission to Mars and 2 M100 tannerite to open. Hit em hard.
Always support your true pyro enthusiasts local stands/tents. I buy a lot of wholesale but I always spend around 1k at my local place. Having a great friendship can be very beneficial. Some give free fireworks, good discounts, and even bring recommended brands not common to your area. Whats also super cool is you can sometimes find pyro treasures! Yes, pyro treasure! Some places will have old pyro collectors would love to have. I have found bricks, spinners, even old fountains at my local stands and 1 warehouse. Wholesale is great for big buyers but as I said leave a little for your special places.
I totally agree! I still buy fireworks all the time from various shops lol. Granted, half the time when I do people tell me I should buy wholesale or that the place is overpriced. Can't win them all I suppose. Awesome on your pyro treasures! Those are always the best experiences
@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Thanks. I think my best finds so far, Thunder Bomb bricks Tiger brand, Double Space Jets horse, candles horse, Red Devil bricks from the mid 90s. I have been very lucky. I should do an update on my collection it's massive!
Going to have to try this finally Phantom just cost to much need to get some different products as well I like to keep stocked up thanks for the video I subscribed
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsJoel what type of license do you need to purchase pro line? I know there are different types. Can you just get the license to purchase them without having to be a jobber on X amount of professional shows? Thank you
@@thunderbomb515 Absolutely! Most companies want you to prove you are competent enough to purchase. This can include a training certificate from a pro company, PGI certificate (probably the most common), and sometimes depending on your experience. For example, are you in any pyro clubs?
It is easy when you can do that in a state where you live at. But those who live in the states, they don't ship to those states because of the law. It's not fair😂
The proline stuff is fantastic! You may also find this video helpful as you can see exactly what they are asking for. ruclips.net/video/8D7BKxtNNlg/видео.html
Go to discount fireworks in Ripon Wisconsin, don’t need nothing and he has wholesale prices on Everuthing when buying individually, a lot of 500 gram cakes for 20-25 bucks, most of his 200 gram cakes are 7-10 bucks at most, 350 gram ones are 14-17
I signed up but their wholesale was still higher than my Local spot. Maybe at the gold level. But from what i saw Rocket beat them out. Nice to see the levels.
You guys are so lucky. In Hawaii (where it's illegal) the prices are 10x the price. I paid 1300 for 1 finale cake and 1000 for another finale cake on top of other fireworks.
I know this is an old video but there's some thing I would like to add: I will typically buy two years of firework shows instead of one per year just so I can easily meet quantity discounts. I also buy my fireworks at multiple times a year through multiple retailers. I've found The best time to buy fireworks is about a month after the 4th of july, and a month after New years. Many retailers like WFboom, Red Apple, and American wholesale Fireworks will "fire sale" a bunch of their cases for up to 40% off, sometimes even ON TOP of the wholesale discount. For example, I'm picking up some "Don't mess with me" canister shell kits from WFboom for $148 a case for a 4/24. That works out to be $1.54 a shell. I can't find pricing like that anywhere. I also picked up a case of 6/36 "Corona" rockets from Red apple in 2022 for $150 in February. That's 69 cents a rocket and I'm still using up that case. This is a great guide for people but if you have somewhere you can store your fireworks you can save even more.
Do yourselves a favor and get the type 54 license from the ATF, much better pricing and quality out there. For example: 72 3" professional display mortars are about 170. 500 2/1 display racks are 350. 5" shells for less than $60 in some cases.
Yeah that's a great route for many. I'm still fine staying in the 1.4 world. I help with enough professional shows that I don't feel the need to bring them into my own show.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics The mix of consumer/prosumer/pro is best. I agree with you that labeled; 1.3 proline being mostly consumed by the general public for most events are fantastic. It's the use of such-with good firing systems and care, that makes a show great. I only advocate the certification for those wanting the edge on quality and quantity with good safety practice and awareness. Also the ability to engage with the local law enforcement and fire department/Ems for larger displays. I sent a few larger shells and racks off this past New Year's Eve with epic crowd response. Juneteenth and the Fourth of July this year are going to be something else for my hood as a neighborhood as a result.
Firework clubs are a great way to get higher discount tiers and a lot of times, free delivery to events! I normally take advantage of that during Sky Wars for example.
7k? hell yea lol in 2020 with all those stimulus payments and enhanced unemployment i blew almost 20k on cases lol i still have 3 shelves full of stuff this year ive only spent a whole 20 dollars just to get some fuse. cant wait till i get to blow money on cases again lol
@@aronvic2627it cost an average of 10k to rent a spot for the week, usually another 3-5k in other cost. Then 20k-25k in fireworks. Then you gotta hope you sell enough
I just wanna get these crazy cool salutes that I be seeing all over YT lol, guess I gotta find someone who is willing to let me see the secret "backroom" and let me buy from them. Dont know anyone else that is big into fireworks so ima have to go to all these fireworks stores and chat up a bunch of people.
Got a few questions Joel. First is what are your thoughts on red apple fireworks wholesale of their own brand? Two what is the best firing system? Lastly how do you get a 1.4 pro license?
I'm not planning a stash video, only because I'll be showing off items going up in the show throughout the Setup series. I have way too many fireworks to get out of storage for the stash video, so I am preferring to only show what I'll be using when I'll be working on it. That might change next year! I do not have a strong opinion one way or the other on Red Apple. If the pricing is good, I'd say go for it. What are you looking to do with the firing system? There are a lot of great systems out there for various reasons. If you're going more the budget route to get your feet wet, look at FireFly or Ignite. If you want the investment system for long term growth, I'd look at FireTek or Cobra. I'm currently trying to switch all of my Cobra to FireTek. To buy 1.4 pro, you have to show some level of competency. This can be a training certificate from a pro company, state shooters license, ATF type 54, or something like the PGI Shooter's Course certificate (probably the most common). If you are in any pyro clubs, they may also accept that.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics thanks for all the info! My brother in law and I are looking into really deep diving and trying to start a side business doing firework shows. I will definitely look into Firetek! We’ve been spending 1000s on retail and would love to start buying pro wholesale as well as consumer wholesale. I went down a rabbit hole last night and was watching red apple for hours so I wanted to get your thoughts because you’re the best of the best in my opinion when it comes to fireworks. Thanks for all you do man!
Good Information...In my neck of the woods, (Pennsylvania, Ohio, West VA) you get the best wholesale pricing if you buy in the off-season. Usually January-April, depending. I personally would not buy wholesale in May or June.
Traditionally, you're totally correct. 2022 and 2023, people have been running deals all year round where "early bird" discounts are really not much different than later deals. WFBoom is one that does some killer deals in Jan/Feb, but So76 has discounted shipping and additional free cases through June. AWF has been running promos non stop since last July too lol
I run a tent every year for Jakes fireworks which is Wholesale Fireworks. Our prices are as competitive as these guys and we have a VIP program and I give out hundreds of free fireworks. I can beat these guys all day long. Yes, this video is true when compared to most firework shops but not the one I run every year.
A shop at Jake's fireworks here in Oklahoma every year from mine they have six shot artillery shell single tube 8.99$ then they got the half off cakes and stuff I got some really awesome 9 shot cakes for 3.50$ Called with a bang or something like that
Excellent video, but I’m not sure what you mean by a distribution center? For instance, I’m in NC, where these are illegal, but a short trip to SC, where they are legal. Thanks! ( I miss Indiana and Nevada)
A freight distribution center, such as FedEx. Basically ship it to the next state over and go pick it up at the distribution center. Some states have weird shipping laws even though fireworks are legal, so this is quite a common practice.
Great video! I also really liked your last wholes video from a couple years ago. What made you switch from American Wholesale? I see 76 has much cheaper prices but the shipping is about double and they apply tax. So its basically a wash right?
I have purchased from So76 every year for the last six years. I really like their proline and how they have integrated everything together. They also are one of the leaders in new effects and continuing development. They also support many pyro events throughout the year, so I am fine paying a bit more on some things knowing all of that. I have also purchased from American and will continue to buy from both going forward!
I convince people like this, "Take how much you spend on fireworks every year. Multiply by 4. If it's more than $1000, you should buy wholesale. You'll end up with 4 years worth of works for the same cost, but likely have way more and better products."
Say i do a 2k buy tier and i want it shiped to reno NV about how much would shiping cost be i seen the priceing with out shipping looks good just curious how much shipping cost on a pallet or half pallet ?
Great question! This was super easy to do. You can specify to have it shipped to a terminal's address. In this case, I picked up a terminal only to ensure the delivery day. They (the shipping company) called me and said they couldn't get it to me on the day I wanted. I told them I would pick up from their terminal instead. Show up, go to office, "I'm here for a pick up", sign the release paper and load up. Even shipments that have came all the way to my location will call you to make sure someone is there for the delivery window and they always ask me if I would prefer to pickup at the terminal (to save them the trip lol).
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics so you just order and pick the nearest terminal or do you tell the wholesaler you want to pick terminal pickup and they decide which? when you go to pickup and say I'm here for pickup do you get the skid or can you destack the skid and put in van/car and not have to bring a pickup truck to put whole skid in bed? is there a extra fee for using their location because of hazmat or is that accounted for in the shipping fee? Thanks
@@AdaKurFireworks I'd ask the seller what they advise. I've seen it laid out differently on different websites. No additional fee for terminal pickup. You can break pallets down, or take the whole thing. I've done terminal pickup three times with three different shipping companies/wholesalers and each time I broke the skid down and left it there.
Was really interested in buying wholesale from Sof76 when I lived in WA, but they would not deliver for some reason. Ended up with a different wholesaler. Oh well.
Still not great pricing. Every state has shipping laws. Unless you're paying 10k, you can get a 76 price from a local owner. In TX, I sell wholesale and zero shipping. Those prices your showing are my store prices. BTW, going to the distribution center, enjoy them checking for hazmat. Other benefits I offer is selling cases with 12 , 16, or 18 different products. Same with 500gram cakes.
Please drop your store link so we can check it out! All shipments are shipped hazmat, so I am unsure what you mean there. Assorted cases are a great way to go and is also why I mentioned that in this video.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I'm in logistics and deal with winda, WC, Herbie's...... Sometimes like in TX for example, when you pick up at the hub and drive out with over a thousand pounds of powder weight with out insurance and hazmat, bam, easy confiscation and fine. I'll ship all the samples thrown at me and mix the cases up. If a case is 12/1 then I'll find 12 different products and put cases together. My wife does a make a wish fundraiser and has a customer base and has me put shows together with customers who are serious about their fireworks Example of an order Hi, Hope you everyone is doing well. Below is my order for 4th of July 2023. I still have some left over from New Years and I'm not doing a mirrored show, so only one set of boards for the 4th. 2 x 2" cakes 6 x powerful 500 cakes 6 x medium 500 cakes 6 x 350 gram cakes 6 x 200 gram cakes 2 x z-cakes Thanks ****" He left out 3" and 60 gram shells. Example of out my wife's fundraiser Case of excals- 350$ 4/1 Case of wind it up- 205$ 4/1 Case of wheeling and dealing 185$ 2/1 Case of stars and stripes 140$ 18/1 All four categories above can be mixed up like land of the free. Point is, know the owner of a stand, tent, small warehouse and they can do this and your not shipping anything and you know there products. I move all brands from megabanger to WC. Places like Red apple are using a rewrap. Big thunder double artilleries, peel off foil and its great grizzly. I believe in buy local but I've seen folks really mark up the prices but I've showed the smaller guys how to do folks right instead of pen to paper. I love 76 warehouse, great story about the man who set it up. Also, the case cardboard tells me the quality of what's in their containers.
As long as they maintain their quality and extra circulars (innovating effects, sponsoring all the pyro events, etc.), I am fine paying a bit more for their product.
@@DYTnetwork For sure! They do a lot with the Missouri firework clubs too and will regularly offer gold pricing at no minimum for on-site pickup to events.
Thanks for the info. Great content. I want to ask you though, is this a company that I would deal with if say, I wanted to start a seasonal store or stand? I want to buy to sell.
Absolutely! They do drop shipping for large orders as well. I'd give them a call to get some more information, but I know they have a 10k pricing discount and a container deal as well. A whole container is pretty normal for a seasonal tent.
Haha right? It feels illegal to buy fireworks online and have them shipped to you. Just make sure it is legal to ship to your state or find an alternate shipping destination etc.
I agree that Wholesale is the way to purchase fireworks, I know trying to obtain the ATF type 54 License which allows one to fire Professional shows, can be difficult to acquire.. How does one apply for the certificate to purchase the special proline products. which I would hope is not in the category as the type 54.. Thank you for the vids..
You're welcome! If you are going to get your ATF type 54, it would qualify for proline. You do not need your ATF type 54 to shoot pro shows though. That license only allows/regulates purchasing and storage of 1.3. Each state has their own professional shooter requirements and if you had a pro license for a state, that would also qualify for pro line. The most common is something like the PGI Shooter's Course.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsahahah thank Joel I was watching the the video while commenting I don’t like to skip through your videos, but now just noticed you had the video label in increments 😅 my bad. But still awesome video getting the word out through that whole sells the way to go when buying 1000 plus worth of fireworks. It’s really more bang for your buck
Where do you store your cases of extra fireworks through out the year. I live in Colorado and we get all the weather here. So was curious to know if them being stored in a garage that gets super cold in the winter and super hot in the summer would have a negative effect on the fireworks? I really enjoyed the informational video. Sadly didn’t know about wholesale until after my purchase for this year.
Glad you enjoyed! As long as you keep the fireworks dry, they will be fine in the cold/hot temperature swings. Most firework warehouses are not temp controlled and they sit in extreme heat in the shipping containers coming across the ocean. Ideally, store them in an out building if you can.
That shipping price is a lot lower than I expected. Next year I will be going wholesale. One question. If it were delivered to my door. Do you know how much more that would cost?
You can punch all those details in, and it will give you a real estimate. If it adds a ton of cost, I recommend shipping to a distribution center, or if you know someone with a business address, use that instead.
To my understanding, yes they can ship to NC and so can other wholesalers. Most wholesalers will tell you that you are the one responsible to make sure you're legally able to receive the fireworks. Meaning, they do not care once they leave their facility so you wouldn't need to show proof of permits to them.
@@kendynschaefer673 You're all good! Another idea is look at joining a pyro club. Get in on their group buys and pickup at events. Carolina Pyros come to mind as they are in NC
I believe Maryland is a federal law issue. Meaning you'd have to ship to a neighboring state. If you had a permit or license, you could probably get around that. I'd give Spirit a call and ask them directly too.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics lol yea understand I had the wrong name for it. It was called overlord lol I really need a solid connection on some good cakes.
of course I see this video after I had already done my 4th of july shopping
Haha, something to keep in mind for next year!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsdo they ship worldwide
I know right 😢
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I needed this, recently got back into fireworks after a 20yr hiatus. Spent 2k this 4th on them..eye opener seeing this lol. Def going that route nxt yr. Appreciated!!
So did you order?
We get to the highest discount level in a big group buy every year. Some times guys will split cases, but mostly we are happy to buy full cases. It’s very good pricing.
That's the way to do it! With show design, I only want cases haha. For regular videos, buying by the piece is more favorable
SHIPPING is the issue for us in the northeast -Whats the best way to go & most discrete
@@raymonddeangelis7117 yeah I agree would like to see a answer
Thank you very much for posting this. I've been thinking about doing this sort of purchase for years, but you really made my mind up to do it.
It's absolutely worth it if you spend a lot on fireworks today! Let me know if you have any other questions, as I'm happy to help where I can.
Super informative! Thanks for the fantastic video Joel
My pleasure! Love the website and ordering process
Another very informative video and yes I ordered 2 pallets wholesale this year but not from S76. I ordered 1 from red apple during their early Black Friday which is the best sale of the year. The second from superior in February when they had there best prices of the year. As I expand my fireworks show and knowledge I will branch out to other companies like S76. Thanks for the very informative video.
That is awesome to hear! You make some great points that some of the best deals are in the colder months before the thick of the summer firework season.
Superior makes some great stuff. I have a few of their Showline items in my show this year too. I haven't purchased from Red Apple before.
Did you have issues with American Glory’s from Red Apple? Lots of reports of them being faulty.
@@405ruben I really haven't shot any Red Apple stuff
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics sorry I was referring to the original person who commented, not sure why it didn’t @ him
@@405ruben Oh that makes sense. The mobile view didn't show me the previous comments either lol
wait you located around columbia mo thats awesome,we do a nice big show every year this way that you explain in this vid. my bud just goes to his guy who is a local spirit 76 dealer.
Comes down to planning and preparation is one person just blowing off fireworks to have fun or trying to create a show. Excitement just to blow things off is great, with that the thought process is not clear for creating a show. Buying a few days before and event just creates blowing off fireworks. I believe when buying whole sale the thoughts of creating a show starts to happen and that is the exciting part. To actually visualize and prepare a show is most of the fun. We are close to that time, great video Joel. 2 Fortune Soldiers, 2 Mission to Mars and 2 M100 tannerite to open. Hit em hard.
You're totally correct!
Always support your true pyro enthusiasts local stands/tents. I buy a lot of wholesale but I always spend around 1k at my local place. Having a great friendship can be very beneficial. Some give free fireworks, good discounts, and even bring recommended brands not common to your area. Whats also super cool is you can sometimes find pyro treasures! Yes, pyro treasure! Some places will have old pyro collectors would love to have. I have found bricks, spinners, even old fountains at my local stands and 1 warehouse. Wholesale is great for big buyers but as I said leave a little for your special places.
I totally agree! I still buy fireworks all the time from various shops lol. Granted, half the time when I do people tell me I should buy wholesale or that the place is overpriced. Can't win them all I suppose. Awesome on your pyro treasures! Those are always the best experiences
@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Thanks. I think my best finds so far, Thunder Bomb bricks Tiger brand, Double Space Jets horse, candles horse, Red Devil bricks from the mid 90s. I have been very lucky. I should do an update on my collection it's massive!
Going to have to try this finally Phantom just cost to much need to get some different products as well I like to keep stocked up thanks for the video I subscribed
I have diamond tier with American Wholesale, the main difference is they allow single items on orders. Wholesale is the way to go.
That's awesome! I did a video on AWF for that exact reason too!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsJoel what type of license do you need to purchase pro line? I know there are different types. Can you just get the license to purchase them without having to be a jobber on X amount of professional shows? Thank you
@@thunderbomb515 Absolutely! Most companies want you to prove you are competent enough to purchase. This can include a training certificate from a pro company, PGI certificate (probably the most common), and sometimes depending on your experience. For example, are you in any pyro clubs?
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics yes. My problem is I can not drive far. Disabled from a drunk driver hitting me.
It is easy when you can do that in a state where you live at. But those who live in the states, they don't ship to those states because of the law. It's not fair😂
Nice Joel I been buying wholesale for years only buy retail when it's at a great discount price. Thanks for the video and pyro on bro 👍
That is excellent to hear! I primarily buy wholesale, but I will totally stop in retail stores all the time and pick things up lol
I got a wholesaler near me with the same prices and let's me get it by the piece. Its crazy how much retailers charge
Now I need a video on the best ways to get certified to purchase their proffessional only products. The pro line has some nice stuff.
The proline stuff is fantastic! You may also find this video helpful as you can see exactly what they are asking for. ruclips.net/video/8D7BKxtNNlg/видео.html
Go to discount fireworks in Ripon Wisconsin, don’t need nothing and he has wholesale prices on Everuthing when buying individually, a lot of 500 gram cakes for 20-25 bucks, most of his 200 gram cakes are 7-10 bucks at most, 350 gram ones are 14-17
@jonzyburt-lb3zj do they ship? I'm in Wisconsin but that's a bit of a drive
I signed up but their wholesale was still higher than my
Local spot. Maybe at the gold level. But from what i saw Rocket beat them out. Nice to see the levels.
Gold is another ~25% off of Silver pricing from my experience. Then the next tier is another 18-20% off Gold.
Ahhh I didn't know TAKO was S76 as well... Still need to get an order in with them too!
Yes sir! It was there way of taking the best effects and putting them into a consumer line.
You guys are so lucky. In Hawaii (where it's illegal) the prices are 10x the price. I paid 1300 for 1 finale cake and 1000 for another finale cake on top of other fireworks.
I've never bought wholesale I plan on doing it next year!!! as well as purchasing a cobra firing system . Love the videos!
Hey that's awesome to hear! You'll get hooked for sure haha
Solid work pyro 🧨🤙 very good information thanks.
Awesome video and tutorial at the same time, you are a true pyro my brother, much respect and appreciate your videos, pyro on brother 👊
Thank you so much! I'm happy to share the pyro with everyone!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics No prob and we are happy that you do, thanks again pyro
@@bennycru You the man!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics LoL na you are 👊🍻
I know this is an old video but there's some thing I would like to add:
I will typically buy two years of firework shows instead of one per year just so I can easily meet quantity discounts. I also buy my fireworks at multiple times a year through multiple retailers.
I've found The best time to buy fireworks is about a month after the 4th of july, and a month after New years. Many retailers like WFboom, Red Apple, and American wholesale Fireworks will "fire sale" a bunch of their cases for up to 40% off, sometimes even ON TOP of the wholesale discount.
For example, I'm picking up some "Don't mess with me" canister shell kits from WFboom for $148 a case for a 4/24. That works out to be $1.54 a shell. I can't find pricing like that anywhere. I also picked up a case of 6/36 "Corona" rockets from Red apple in 2022 for $150 in February. That's 69 cents a rocket and I'm still using up that case.
This is a great guide for people but if you have somewhere you can store your fireworks you can save even more.
How can you save even more if u have somewhere to store em?
thank you. ultra informative per always!!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video. I’m 30 minutes away from headquarters and had no clue!
Nice! You can pickup right at their warehouse too
Do yourselves a favor and get the type 54 license from the ATF, much better pricing and quality out there. For example: 72 3" professional display mortars are about 170. 500 2/1 display racks are 350. 5" shells for less than $60 in some cases.
Yeah that's a great route for many. I'm still fine staying in the 1.4 world. I help with enough professional shows that I don't feel the need to bring them into my own show.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics The mix of consumer/prosumer/pro is best. I agree with you that labeled; 1.3 proline being mostly consumed by the general public for most events are fantastic. It's the use of such-with good firing systems and care, that makes a show great. I only advocate the certification for those wanting the edge on quality and quantity with good safety practice and awareness. Also the ability to engage with the local law enforcement and fire department/Ems for larger displays.
I sent a few larger shells and racks off this past New Year's Eve with epic crowd response. Juneteenth and the Fourth of July this year are going to be something else for my hood as a neighborhood as a result.
Another thing to point out, some wholesalers will have club pricing if you are part of your local firework club.
Firework clubs are a great way to get higher discount tiers and a lot of times, free delivery to events! I normally take advantage of that during Sky Wars for example.
Cracked the $7,000 mark. This show is going to top all my others! My neighbors are going to freak out!
7k? hell yea lol in 2020 with all those stimulus payments and enhanced unemployment i blew almost 20k on cases lol i still have 3 shelves full of stuff this year ive only spent a whole 20 dollars just to get some fuse. cant wait till i get to blow money on cases again lol
Nice! That's a lot of fireworks! My show this year is closer to 3k.
I wonder how many tents just flipped their lid!? LOL
Lol right.
I'm done with tents... all they try to do anymore is make the most profit and don't care about trying to give a good deal.
Damn right
@@aronvic2627it cost an average of 10k to rent a spot for the week, usually another 3-5k in other cost. Then 20k-25k in fireworks. Then you gotta hope you sell enough
These prices are still higher compared to my local place but I guess it’s cheaper for some people in different areas
Where you buy your firework
I just wanna get these crazy cool salutes that I be seeing all over YT lol, guess I gotta find someone who is willing to let me see the secret "backroom" and let me buy from them. Dont know anyone else that is big into fireworks so ima have to go to all these fireworks stores and chat up a bunch of people.
Me to!!!!
I just ordered $2600 in fireworks from Superior Fireworks. I order from them every year for the past 8 years
They make some great product too!
I love how Spirit and others literally are competing against their big customers.
in my experience, 76 is nowhere close to other wholesale suppliers in Missouri.
very nice stuff man thank u
Glad you enjoyed it
Yes. Thank you for this detailed way to purchase fireworks. Awesome.
You're welcome!
Seems like this is for someone that spend thousands and up a year not 500 and up. I was excited.
🎯Thanks for the information thanks for doing the .👍
Thanks for watching!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics you are making really good videos we all really appreciate it 👍
My local tents have 500g cakes $90+
Yikes! Hopefully you can find a new spot or buy wholesale!
I looked at a 500 dollar show but the shipping was 350. So I passed. I will look into a distro center pickup.
76 fireworks is the last place I would buy fireworks online
Where should I buy.
Greetings Joel, create a video on how to sell firecrackers all over the world
Ty Joel 🏆 😊 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Got a few questions Joel. First is what are your thoughts on red apple fireworks wholesale of their own brand? Two what is the best firing system? Lastly how do you get a 1.4 pro license?
also can we get a stash video
you can get a 1.3 license through the ATF
I'm not planning a stash video, only because I'll be showing off items going up in the show throughout the Setup series. I have way too many fireworks to get out of storage for the stash video, so I am preferring to only show what I'll be using when I'll be working on it. That might change next year!
I do not have a strong opinion one way or the other on Red Apple. If the pricing is good, I'd say go for it.
What are you looking to do with the firing system? There are a lot of great systems out there for various reasons. If you're going more the budget route to get your feet wet, look at FireFly or Ignite. If you want the investment system for long term growth, I'd look at FireTek or Cobra. I'm currently trying to switch all of my Cobra to FireTek.
To buy 1.4 pro, you have to show some level of competency. This can be a training certificate from a pro company, state shooters license, ATF type 54, or something like the PGI Shooter's Course certificate (probably the most common). If you are in any pyro clubs, they may also accept that.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics thanks for all the info! My brother in law and I are looking into really deep diving and trying to start a side business doing firework shows. I will definitely look into Firetek! We’ve been spending 1000s on retail and would love to start buying pro wholesale as well as consumer wholesale. I went down a rabbit hole last night and was watching red apple for hours so I wanted to get your thoughts because you’re the best of the best in my opinion when it comes to fireworks. Thanks for all you do man!
Good content 🔥
Thank you!
That warehouse fire sure hurt everyone this year..
Good Information...In my neck of the woods, (Pennsylvania, Ohio, West VA) you get the best wholesale pricing if you buy in the off-season. Usually January-April, depending. I personally would not buy wholesale in May or June.
Traditionally, you're totally correct. 2022 and 2023, people have been running deals all year round where "early bird" discounts are really not much different than later deals. WFBoom is one that does some killer deals in Jan/Feb, but So76 has discounted shipping and additional free cases through June. AWF has been running promos non stop since last July too lol
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics yes, really like WF Booms early deals
@@edhartman2860 That 40% discount! 😍
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Yup ..That's the one!..lol
What about Virginia can I get wholesale shipped here?
I run a tent every year for Jakes fireworks which is Wholesale Fireworks. Our prices are as competitive as these guys and we have a VIP program and I give out hundreds of free fireworks. I can beat these guys all day long. Yes, this video is true when compared to most firework shops but not the one I run every year.
Where is that
A shop at Jake's fireworks here in Oklahoma every year from mine they have six shot artillery shell single tube 8.99$ then they got the half off cakes and stuff I got some really awesome 9 shot cakes for 3.50$ Called with a bang or something like that
Is this the one in Indianapolis
@@sobrr13they have a ton of locations. I’m in Texas and they have a DC a few hours away
Where are you located? I'm willing to take the drive for cheaper price.
Excellent video, but I’m not sure what you mean by a distribution center? For instance, I’m in NC, where these are illegal, but a short trip to SC, where they are legal. Thanks! ( I miss Indiana and Nevada)
A freight distribution center, such as FedEx. Basically ship it to the next state over and go pick it up at the distribution center. Some states have weird shipping laws even though fireworks are legal, so this is quite a common practice.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics you rock man!!!
I felt this 1. Hopefully nc sb 470 passes pyros!
@@jessemarkle5413 Let's hope so!
So cool 🎉
Thank you cheers!
Wow! Wish I knew someone with a certificate I'm going to spend maybe 2k this Nov.
Do you stay in NZ bro
$1800 at the tent is like 8 500g cakes, at phantom it's maybe 4.
Exactly! That's why I prefer wholesale
Dang!!!!hell yeah!!!
Get them deals!
Great video! I also really liked your last wholes video from a couple years ago. What made you switch from American Wholesale? I see 76 has much cheaper prices but the shipping is about double and they apply tax. So its basically a wash right?
I have purchased from So76 every year for the last six years. I really like their proline and how they have integrated everything together. They also are one of the leaders in new effects and continuing development. They also support many pyro events throughout the year, so I am fine paying a bit more on some things knowing all of that. I have also purchased from American and will continue to buy from both going forward!
YES, JOEL, YESSSSSSS
Woot woot!
I convince people like this, "Take how much you spend on fireworks every year. Multiply by 4. If it's more than $1000, you should buy wholesale. You'll end up with 4 years worth of works for the same cost, but likely have way more and better products."
Oh I totally agree with you! Great way to look at it.
Say i do a 2k buy tier and i want it shiped to reno NV about how much would shiping cost be i seen the priceing with out shipping looks good just curious how much shipping cost on a pallet or half pallet ?
video of pickup steps from terminal be great as well
Great question! This was super easy to do. You can specify to have it shipped to a terminal's address. In this case, I picked up a terminal only to ensure the delivery day. They (the shipping company) called me and said they couldn't get it to me on the day I wanted. I told them I would pick up from their terminal instead. Show up, go to office, "I'm here for a pick up", sign the release paper and load up. Even shipments that have came all the way to my location will call you to make sure someone is there for the delivery window and they always ask me if I would prefer to pickup at the terminal (to save them the trip lol).
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics so you just order and pick the nearest terminal or do you tell the wholesaler you want to pick terminal pickup and they decide which?
when you go to pickup and say I'm here for pickup do you get the skid or can you destack the skid and put in van/car and not have to bring a pickup truck to put whole skid in bed?
is there a extra fee for using their location because of hazmat or is that accounted for in the shipping fee?
Thanks
@@AdaKurFireworks I'd ask the seller what they advise. I've seen it laid out differently on different websites. No additional fee for terminal pickup. You can break pallets down, or take the whole thing. I've done terminal pickup three times with three different shipping companies/wholesalers and each time I broke the skid down and left it there.
Not allowed in Tennessee for consumers to purchase online :(
How would you recommend shopping to alaska?
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Do you think ill be able to get it shipped to hawaii ??
How can i purchase
Nice nice very nice 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics you welcome
WILL THEY DELIVER TO STATE OF NEVADA IN CITY OF LAS VEGAS ? AND WHERE CAN I GET THAT PURCHASE CERTIFICATE ?
Was really interested in buying wholesale from Sof76 when I lived in WA, but they would not deliver for some reason. Ended up with a different wholesaler. Oh well.
Huh, I wonder if it's the state or your specific location? I'm aware of other wholesalers that ship to WA too.
what wholesaler did you find in washington?
My neighbor are gonna hate you for showing me this
Still not great pricing. Every state has shipping laws. Unless you're paying 10k, you can get a 76 price from a local owner. In TX, I sell wholesale and zero shipping. Those prices your showing are my store prices. BTW, going to the distribution center, enjoy them checking for hazmat. Other benefits I offer is selling cases with 12 , 16, or 18 different products. Same with 500gram cakes.
Please drop your store link so we can check it out! All shipments are shipped hazmat, so I am unsure what you mean there. Assorted cases are a great way to go and is also why I mentioned that in this video.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics I'm in logistics and deal with winda, WC, Herbie's...... Sometimes like in TX for example, when you pick up at the hub and drive out with over a thousand pounds of powder weight with out insurance and hazmat, bam, easy confiscation and fine. I'll ship all the samples thrown at me and mix the cases up. If a case is 12/1 then I'll find 12 different products and put cases together. My wife does a make a wish fundraiser and has a customer base and has me put shows together with customers who are serious about their fireworks
Example of an order
Hi,
Hope you everyone is doing well. Below is my order for 4th of July 2023.
I still have some left over from New Years and I'm not doing a mirrored show, so only one set of boards for the 4th.
2 x 2" cakes
6 x powerful 500 cakes
6 x medium 500 cakes
6 x 350 gram cakes
6 x 200 gram cakes
2 x z-cakes
Thanks ****"
He left out 3" and 60 gram shells.
Example of out my wife's fundraiser
Case of excals- 350$ 4/1
Case of wind it up- 205$ 4/1
Case of wheeling and dealing 185$ 2/1
Case of stars and stripes 140$ 18/1
All four categories above can be mixed up like land of the free.
Point is, know the owner of a stand, tent, small warehouse and they can do this and your not shipping anything and you know there products. I move all brands from megabanger to WC. Places like Red apple are using a rewrap. Big thunder double artilleries, peel off foil and its great grizzly.
I believe in buy local but I've seen folks really mark up the prices but I've showed the smaller guys how to do folks right instead of pen to paper. I love 76 warehouse, great story about the man who set it up. Also, the case cardboard tells me the quality of what's in their containers.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics absolutely! It's just nice to see a little man offer this in your own backyard. #buylocal. 😎🇺🇸
Spirit of 76 is just so expensive even for wholesale. They do make a good product though.
As long as they maintain their quality and extra circulars (innovating effects, sponsoring all the pyro events, etc.), I am fine paying a bit more for their product.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics very good point, I’m in KC and they are just a lil ways away so it’s fun to drive into their stores.
@@DYTnetwork For sure! They do a lot with the Missouri firework clubs too and will regularly offer gold pricing at no minimum for on-site pickup to events.
Good infi
Thanks!
We just bought 2800 last 4th
Just got my fireworks but I get family discounts the original price was 1635 but he dropped it down to 800$
Sounds like a good deal!
Thanks for the info. Great content. I want to ask you though, is this a company that I would deal with if say, I wanted to start a seasonal store or stand? I want to buy to sell.
Absolutely! They do drop shipping for large orders as well. I'd give them a call to get some more information, but I know they have a 10k pricing discount and a container deal as well. A whole container is pretty normal for a seasonal tent.
I already looked at that website but they don’t ship to me 😢
Spider Nebula is one of my all time favorite 500 gram cakes
I got it because the effect isn't super common and wanted to throw it into my show!
I might’ve missed it but would we need any licenses or anything to buy wholesale?
what if you live in California?
Something about this just seems wrong 😅. I think I’m gonna try it next 4th tho
Haha right? It feels illegal to buy fireworks online and have them shipped to you. Just make sure it is legal to ship to your state or find an alternate shipping destination etc.
I agree that Wholesale is the way to purchase fireworks, I know trying to obtain the ATF type 54 License which allows one to fire Professional shows, can be difficult to acquire.. How does one apply for the certificate to purchase the special proline products. which I would hope is not in the category as the type 54.. Thank you for the vids..
You're welcome! If you are going to get your ATF type 54, it would qualify for proline. You do not need your ATF type 54 to shoot pro shows though. That license only allows/regulates purchasing and storage of 1.3. Each state has their own professional shooter requirements and if you had a pro license for a state, that would also qualify for pro line. The most common is something like the PGI Shooter's Course.
Thank you again for the clarification and the information 👍🏻
How can you choose to ship to a distribution facility and go pickup there?
Oh yeah man good stuff and that’s mostly just consumer im in the process in getting my 1.4 pro 😎 it’s gonna be a beautiful 4th
Most of this order was proline! I show some of it at the end of the video and will be showing more throughout my setup videos!
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnicsahahah thank Joel I was watching the the video while commenting I don’t like to skip through your videos, but now just noticed you had the video label in increments 😅 my bad. But still awesome video getting the word out through that whole sells the way to go when buying 1000 plus worth of fireworks. It’s really more bang for your buck
Can I buy this online in Washington?
I typically would spend 2k+ How long does it take before I can qualify for Gold pricing?
Do they deliver to California?
I Canada we only allowed sparky
This is all well and good and fine but will they ship to California?!??!?!!?
No one ships to California unfortunately.
Do you think the Washington firework assortment is a good purchase? Looking at buying several other things as well.
Yeah, it all comes down to the items inside! The big assortments are normally not worth it but cake assortment cases are generally a great idea
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics OK great thank you
I wished they shipped to California.
It's a shame no one can ship there.
Do they deliver anywhere I live in New York
Where do you store your cases of extra fireworks through out the year. I live in Colorado and we get all the weather here. So was curious to know if them being stored in a garage that gets super cold in the winter and super hot in the summer would have a negative effect on the fireworks? I really enjoyed the informational video. Sadly didn’t know about wholesale until after my purchase for this year.
Glad you enjoyed! As long as you keep the fireworks dry, they will be fine in the cold/hot temperature swings. Most firework warehouses are not temp controlled and they sit in extreme heat in the shipping containers coming across the ocean. Ideally, store them in an out building if you can.
Will they ship to New York?
Dang bro, those prices are hella expensives man.
Compared to?
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Dutch fireworks or Germany ...
Just trying to find the strobe rocket
No firework shop has thos strobe rockets are home made you gotta be in LA to find the right people that sells but they go up to 120$ each!!
Will they deliver to Nevada?
Does this work if you live in California
So where do people get the "fun stuff" in Commifornia?
They are either going to another state and brining it back, or something is going to another state and then selling it in California lol
That shipping price is a lot lower than I expected. Next year I will be going wholesale. One question. If it were delivered to my door. Do you know how much more that would cost?
You can punch all those details in, and it will give you a real estimate. If it adds a ton of cost, I recommend shipping to a distribution center, or if you know someone with a business address, use that instead.
Can they ship to NC? If so, do you have to show a permit sometime in the ordering process?
To my understanding, yes they can ship to NC and so can other wholesalers. Most wholesalers will tell you that you are the one responsible to make sure you're legally able to receive the fireworks. Meaning, they do not care once they leave their facility so you wouldn't need to show proof of permits to them.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics Thanks, the whole ordering online thing is new to me.
@@kendynschaefer673 You're all good! Another idea is look at joining a pyro club. Get in on their group buys and pickup at events. Carolina Pyros come to mind as they are in NC
How does it work when trying to ship to a states that are less fireworks friendly? I.e. Maryland
I believe Maryland is a federal law issue. Meaning you'd have to ship to a neighboring state. If you had a permit or license, you could probably get around that. I'd give Spirit a call and ask them directly too.
So I go from spending $800 a year to 5k sounds like a plan 😂
Or you keep spending the $800, but buy wholesale. You don't have to spend anywhere close to 5k to buy wholesale...
Exactly. And a bunch of same stuff. 60 cakes but only 5 diff ones lol
Will they ship to Colorado were some fireworks are illegal like fireworks that go up in the air
They should ship to Colorado. I know other wholesalers that do.
Hey Joel you know where I can find OVERLOAD 360SHOT CAKE FROM?
360 shots? Most OL cakes are lower shot count. Generally, I try not to discuss OL online since we never know who is watching.
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics lol yea understand I had the wrong name for it. It was called overlord lol I really need a solid connection on some good cakes.
@@noclu7757 I'm mostly only familiar with shops in the Midwest. You out this way?
@@JoelRobinsonPyrotechnics in Dayton oh lol
@@noclu7757 Indiana definitely has some shops you might enjoy lol