ALL HAIL TEAM SIEMENS!!!! Great to see a brand new season of this series, and with an amazing intro too (featuring a 2 car coaster train and the 7 Eleven Charger). Even though I can definitely see Siemens gaining several more orders over the next few years even to the point where they'll eventually be running THREE manufacturing plants, I could honestly see Stadler offering a competitor locomotive for the Charger since they have more orders in the U.S. with high reliability, as well as a few electric locomotive classes in Europe (such as the EuroDual) that they could easily modify for the U.S. as a battery engine, electric engine, or some other third option. Although, I wouldn't leave Alstom entirely out of the running with their ALP-45 which was inherited from Bombardier, although I've heard some mixed reviews about that engine.
Hmm let's see if we could create the most produced train ever: Siemens Mobility: Chorgers - SC-44/ALC-42 General Electric Transportation (Wabtec): GEVOs & P42DC EMD (Progress Rail): GP40s & F40PHs Stadler: KISS EMUs Alstom (Bombardier Transportation): Multilevel Coach/Cab Cars & Acela I trainsets w/Hybrid K5LAs
The thing I will definitely make note of is that Alstom and Stadler do make locomotives, just not for the North American market. The Stadler Dual and EuroDual and the Alstom Traxx have been highly successful competing against the Siemens Vectron (Which both the ACS-64 and to a lesser extent the Charger are based on). The EuroDual in particular could be a potent competitor to current GE/Wabtec and EMD/Progress Rail offerings in freight service, since they're dual mode Diesel/Electric dual modes, and the Traxx has been used as a mixed traffic platform for freight and passenger trains for a while. Those platforms could definitely find success if they are convinced to enter the market. What might be the trigger for them to do so is the question.
by technicality GE has made a passenger loco besides the p42. They had owned MPI before they went under and with that MPI used the GEVO 12 cylinder as the main prime mover. With that partnership out popped the HSP 46.
Alstom has built the ALP-45 being used currently by Montreal Exo as Diesel trains because no mainline electric lines to run dual mode. Unless Alstom can build their Diesel Locomotive variant of the TRAXX either with a genset style (multiple smaller engines) or traditional (one big engine) that’s rated higher than 100mph or 160km/h to at least 125mph or 200km/h. They got a lot of facilities in US and Canada to do so,
ALP-45DP doesn't count as it was inherited from Bombardier along with anything formerly Bombardier The Acela and HHP-8 are joint builds from former Bombardier and Alstom, not Alstom themselves (At the time)
Stadler could have a presence, but not towards large commuter railroads that run long trains for capacity and/or still prefer loco-hauled (Metra, GO, COASTER, WCE, ACE, etc..). Alstom could.. If they would make a locomotive that could compete with Siemens' current Diesel-electric market (The last time they did it was 2003-2006 with the PL42AC, so pretty much 20 years ago). GE/MPI is pretty much out. EMD is also pretty much out, the F125 seemed to be the last straw (Also the logistical issues they had with production of the F125 before they even came out). So Siemens is in it for what looks like the long run.
Not all passenger railroads would want Multiple Units, let alone having to electrify the network unless they want to (Sure DMUs, Battery, Hydrogen but that wont work with things like say GOs 12 car long sets)
Tbf Stadler has expertise in Diesel locomotives (abeit dual mode ones with pantographs) in the form of the former Vossloh products and its derivatives; eg. the Euro 3000 & 4000. They're not adjusted to American specifications, but it's not outside the realm of possibilities.
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ALL HAIL TEAM SIEMENS!!!! Great to see a brand new season of this series, and with an amazing intro too (featuring a 2 car coaster train and the 7 Eleven Charger). Even though I can definitely see Siemens gaining several more orders over the next few years even to the point where they'll eventually be running THREE manufacturing plants, I could honestly see Stadler offering a competitor locomotive for the Charger since they have more orders in the U.S. with high reliability, as well as a few electric locomotive classes in Europe (such as the EuroDual) that they could easily modify for the U.S. as a battery engine, electric engine, or some other third option. Although, I wouldn't leave Alstom entirely out of the running with their ALP-45 which was inherited from Bombardier, although I've heard some mixed reviews about that engine.
Hmm let's see if we could create the most produced train ever:
Siemens Mobility: Chorgers - SC-44/ALC-42
General Electric Transportation (Wabtec): GEVOs & P42DC
EMD (Progress Rail): GP40s & F40PHs
Stadler: KISS EMUs
Alstom (Bombardier Transportation): Multilevel Coach/Cab Cars & Acela I trainsets w/Hybrid K5LAs
The thing I will definitely make note of is that Alstom and Stadler do make locomotives, just not for the North American market. The Stadler Dual and EuroDual and the Alstom Traxx have been highly successful competing against the Siemens Vectron (Which both the ACS-64 and to a lesser extent the Charger are based on). The EuroDual in particular could be a potent competitor to current GE/Wabtec and EMD/Progress Rail offerings in freight service, since they're dual mode Diesel/Electric dual modes, and the Traxx has been used as a mixed traffic platform for freight and passenger trains for a while. Those platforms could definitely find success if they are convinced to enter the market. What might be the trigger for them to do so is the question.
by technicality GE has made a passenger loco besides the p42. They had owned MPI before they went under and with that MPI used the GEVO 12 cylinder as the main prime mover. With that partnership out popped the HSP 46.
The GE P42 Genesis is the goat locomotive. Keep up the videos. Happy Holidays!
to answer the title, probably any sort of weather
Alstom has built the ALP-45 being used currently by Montreal Exo as Diesel trains because no mainline electric lines to run dual mode. Unless Alstom can build their Diesel Locomotive variant of the TRAXX either with a genset style (multiple smaller engines) or traditional (one big engine) that’s rated higher than 100mph or 160km/h to at least 125mph or 200km/h. They got a lot of facilities in US and Canada to do so,
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Alstom PL42 says HI!!!! Yes, they made diesels for NJTransit. AS well as dual-modes.
But the better idea is to just electrify everything.
7:36 alstom actually did make locos
ALP-45DP doesn't count as it was inherited from Bombardier along with anything formerly Bombardier
The Acela and HHP-8 are joint builds from former Bombardier and Alstom, not Alstom themselves (At the time)
@@GamingRailfanner *cough* PL42AC *cough*
@@caltrain914studios Sure I guess, but those were for NJT between 2003-2006, they never made it as far as the chargers are right now
@@GamingRailfanner they could overhaul them though, make them tier four type shi
1:53 LOL😂
Stadler could have a presence, but not towards large commuter railroads that run long trains for capacity and/or still prefer loco-hauled (Metra, GO, COASTER, WCE, ACE, etc..).
Alstom could.. If they would make a locomotive that could compete with Siemens' current Diesel-electric market (The last time they did it was 2003-2006 with the PL42AC, so pretty much 20 years ago).
GE/MPI is pretty much out.
EMD is also pretty much out, the F125 seemed to be the last straw (Also the logistical issues they had with production of the F125 before they even came out).
So Siemens is in it for what looks like the long run.
Great to see you back. Can’t wait for future uploads.
Stadler KISS EMUs. I don’t this this really needs questioning ngl
Not all passenger railroads would want Multiple Units, let alone having to electrify the network unless they want to (Sure DMUs, Battery, Hydrogen but that wont work with things like say GOs 12 car long sets)
@@GamingRailfanner good point
Stadler still could theoretically do something with the Eurodual or the Eurolight.
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Tbf Stadler has expertise in Diesel locomotives (abeit dual mode ones with pantographs) in the form of the former Vossloh products and its derivatives; eg. the Euro 3000 & 4000. They're not adjusted to American specifications, but it's not outside the realm of possibilities.
> Who Can Dethrone the Siemens Charger?
Skunkworks, obviously
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Was there ever a p41 for amtrak if that exists
Bro, why didn't you mention Nippon Sharyo. But, great work by the way.
Siemens plays hard to win, Alstom plays hard not to lose!!!
Alstom delivered the ALP-45DP to NJT. Formerly a bombardier product.
Alstom technically didn't make it themselves, they had to inherit Bombadier
@GamingRailfanner Yes I know that's why I mentioned it.
@GamingRailfanner Also our newer units have the Alstom logos and badges on them.
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Yes sir 5008 is back
@@BoeingAvation8490 hello
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The F125 is still in Progress Rail's catalog. Anyone could order one.
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LETS GO!
Aw hell yeah he’s back!
stfu Mitchell stop obsessing and accusing me get a life
At least these things are better than the alc-42s.
Hey 5008, how about the F40PH & PHM-4C?
7/11 Charger 0:54
You made me laugh how you say everyone's favorite: 1:51 😂😂😂
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Stadler can with the KISS EMUs